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    Nobel Laureate in physics Robert A. Millikan (1868-1953) was the second American to win the Nobel Prize in physics. At the peak of his influence, no scientist save Einstein was more admired by the American public. Millikan’s greatest scientific achievement was the isolation the electron and the measurement of its charge. Millikan was awarded a...
  • The only reason I can see for the campaign against Millikan is to cull white males from the canon.
    In other words, sheer racial/ethnic discrimination.

  • @fnn
    @Сергей Гончаров

    OTOH, Stalin made the nonsense of Lysenko official state policy. and it's said biologists who opposed him were sent to the Gulags.

    Replies: @Ed Case

    Fun facts:
    Later resaearch proved Lysenko right.
    The West still refuses to accept the abiotic origin of Oil.

    • LOL: N. Joseph Potts
  • @Poupon Marx
    @Chebyshev

    I have advised those on here with college age children to consider sending their worthies to a Russian university. It is obvious that Russia has a vast intellectual class and has had. Simply, Russian cultural values are high values and stress excellence, as they have always done.

    Higher learning centers of the West are all degraded and demoted in mission and commission.
    No contemporary, modern, Post Modern excrement has been allowed to come close.


    Moscow State University- M. V. Lomonosov Moscow State University is a public research university in Moscow, Russia. The university includes 15 research institutes, 43 faculties, more than 300 departments, and six branches. Alumni of the university include past leaders of the Soviet Union and other governments. Tuition- $381.00 per year

    Programs taught in English- https://international.msu.ru/programs-english
     

    HSE University (Russian: «Высшая школа экономики», ВШЭ), officially the National Research University Higher School of Economics (Russian: Национальный исследовательский университет «Высшая школа экономики») is a public research university founded in 1992 and headquartered in Moscow, Russia. Along with its main campus located in the capital, the university maintains three other regional campuses in Nizhny Novgorod, Perm and Saint Petersburg.[8] There is also the Lyceum at the National Research University Higher School of Economics in Moscow.

    Widely regarded among the most prestigious universities in Russia and the CIS,[9][10] it acquired the status of "national research university" in 2009. HSE was the first educational institution in Russia to successfully introduce Bachelor's and Master's degrees, having also taken part in the development and implementation of the Unified State Exam to modernize education and health care systems of Russia.

    Starting from 2013, HSE University has also participated in the Project 5-100 (the project was initiated by the Ministry of Education and Science to promote at least five Russian universities to the top 100 universities according to Times Higher Education World University Rankings, QS World University Rankings, and Academic Ranking of World Universities[11]). In 2022 it was ranked #568 in Best Global Universities by U.S. News & World Report, and #881 by Center for World University Rankings, and in 2020 it was ranked in the #801-900 group in the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU), also known as the Shanghai Ranking.[12][13][14]

    HSE offers education at all levels – from a lyceum for school students to post-graduate and MBA programmes. Students can pursue training in a number of fields, including the social sciences, economics, humanities, law, engineering, computer science, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and biotechnology, as well as in creative disciplines. HSE is the only university in Russia that is ranked in top 100 of the Times Higher Education Young University Rankings.[15] Furthermore, university representatives are part of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation and the Expert Council under the Government of Russia.

    In 1997, HSE University and the London School of Economics (LSE) signed the agreement on establishing The International College of Economics and Finance (ICEF), that was later renamed to "International Institute of Economics and Finance". According to the regulations of the University of London, starting from the second year, students take classes in English. Upon the successful completion of requirements, they receive a double diploma issued by the University of London and the Higher School of Economics.

     

    Major Russian universities are highly internationalized. Russia is and will continue to pivot EAST, "where the action is". Where the various diseases caused by the (((Plague Givers))) have no influence. For someone looking for a future, I would tell you The West Has Been De-Blessed. Real power and quality of life will be centered in the East and the Global South. Tuition- ~ $5,000.00 a year

    Replies: @Adûnâi

    > “No contemporary, modern, Post Modern excrement has been allowed to come close.”

    > “…successfully introduce Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees, having also taken part in the development and implementation of the Unified State Exam to modernize education and health care systems of Russia.”

    I know this is old, but for the sake of anyone reading your ill-informed advice in the future, you are omitting crucial details of how prevalent the sentiment is among the Russians themselves that:
    1) the EU Bologna Process (“system”) is considered a destruction of the good old Soviet education;
    2) the Unified State Exam is widely reviled for its ABC test questions with no substance;
    3) Russian universities are deemed as breeding grounds for rabid anti-Russian liberals, and are full of American NGOs.

    As to the sources… Just use your web search engine to type anything along the lines of болонская система жж, and there you go.

    The Bologna system is a system for the destruction of classical European education
    https://arctus.livejournal.com/1077021.html

    By the way, what does the statement “ all academic degrees and other qualifications must be oriented towards the labor market ” actually mean? This in itself is something crazy: academic and market – even for the past era of a market economy – phenomena of different levels. Academic – focused on fundamentality and long-term. Market – based on market conditions and short-termism.

  • @Che Guava
    @Poupon Marx

    Agree. I could not believe the latest, that a judge, who already brought one of the legal cases against Trump, actually raised a civil case against him.

    WTF, outrageous, found it hard to believe, even that it is allowed. The bitch has no personal interest in the situation of Trump properties, so how can she even bring the case?

    Also, one would assume that Trump has clever accountants working to minimise his taxes, but overstating property values would clearly raise related taxes.

    Taxes are the source of high income for this rabid bitch, and such actions convince the non-'murricans, not just lowly workers like me, but any foreign policy experts and thinking diplotats, that U.S.A. is like a car running on a blown tyre at high speed.

    Replies: @Poupon Marx

    As bad as this is, the overall situation is accelerating to chaos and horror. The threat of WWIII is very real.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/11-assumptions-about-future

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/human-industrial-complex

    • Agree: Che Guava
  • @Poupon Marx
    @Ron Unz

    In the most recent light of what happened to Trump, confiscation of his property, revocation of his business licenses, with no trial, hearing, or even a shred of legal and precedent law, I am not surprised at the total breakdown of law and order in the USSA.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-rages-deranged-ny-judges-corporate-death-penalty-decision

    Lately many chain stores in the place on the map called The JUSA, announced the closings of several hundreds of stores nationwide. The annual cost of theft from retailers is about $116 billion dollars.. This cost, of course is passed on to the consumer.

    There is an entity behind all of these assaults on order, civilization, and law. A very small group, out of sight, using proxies and fronts, are determined to wreck all civilizations and make the World into one big Weimer Republic, at its worst and lowest erstwhile point. It's various agents are spread to the wind as locust larvae, that now swarm the world, devouring all that is sustaining and necessary for existence.

    A question answers the question: Who OWNS the World? Find the answer for yourself and yours.

    Replies: @Che Guava

    Agree. I could not believe the latest, that a judge, who already brought one of the legal cases against Trump, actually raised a civil case against him.

    WTF, outrageous, found it hard to believe, even that it is allowed. The bitch has no personal interest in the situation of Trump properties, so how can she even bring the case?

    Also, one would assume that Trump has clever accountants working to minimise his taxes, but overstating property values would clearly raise related taxes.

    Taxes are the source of high income for this rabid bitch, and such actions convince the non-‘murricans, not just lowly workers like me, but any foreign policy experts and thinking diplotats, that U.S.A. is like a car running on a blown tyre at high speed.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    @Che Guava

    As bad as this is, the overall situation is accelerating to chaos and horror. The threat of WWIII is very real.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/11-assumptions-about-future

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/human-industrial-complex

  • @Suetonious
    @Realist

    What is the meaning of the term 'dumbass' in this context? Are you suggesting that the non-dumbass position is to assume that all of those signatories were lying because the National Socialist German Workers' Party was two years away from attaining power?

    Replies: @Realist

    Are you suggesting that the non-dumbass position is to assume that all of those signatories were lying because the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was two years away from attaining power?

    Yes, in 1931, the Nazis had virtual control. In 1933, they had absolute power. Furthermore, there were not 100 scientists in the world, let alone in Germany with the knowledge or intelligence to understand or dispute Relativity in 1931. And since you have not read the book you mentioned and sure as hell have no chance to understand it…what is the point of your futility? What don’t you understand about this???

  • @Realist
    @Suetonious


    As far as “these accusations against Einstein are relatively new”, please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as “not relatively new”
     
    Let me do some interpretation for you. In 1931 Germany, the Nazis were prominent. One of their more stupid ideologies was that Jewish science was wrong and not worthy of Aryans. So where is the surprise that a book discrediting Einstein was printed in 1931, Germany? Only a dumbass would use that as a legitimate reason to discredit Einstein.

    Replies: @Suetonious

    What is the meaning of the term ‘dumbass’ in this context? Are you suggesting that the non-dumbass position is to assume that all of those signatories were lying because the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was two years away from attaining power?

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Suetonious


    Are you suggesting that the non-dumbass position is to assume that all of those signatories were lying because the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was two years away from attaining power?
     
    Yes, in 1931, the Nazis had virtual control. In 1933, they had absolute power. Furthermore, there were not 100 scientists in the world, let alone in Germany with the knowledge or intelligence to understand or dispute Relativity in 1931. And since you have not read the book you mentioned and sure as hell have no chance to understand it...what is the point of your futility? What don't you understand about this???
  • @Che Guava
    @Realist

    Einstein's main role was as a show-pony for Herzl in the latter's tour to promote Zionism in the very early twenties of last century, now referred to as 'Einstein's world tour', but in fact Herzl's world tour.

    Perhaps people are just tired of it?

    Something as blatant as 'Doctor Know' in Spielberg's progaganda-fest AI is pretty ugly. Much more in the same line in Jewish-dominated pop culture.

    The photo-electric effect, sure, interesting and worthwhile, but the world's greatest genius evar (as claimed by Jews) would never recognise its relation with quantum mechanics.

    Replies: @Realist

    You are a troll.

    • Thanks: Che Guava
  • @Suetonious
    @Realist

    As far as "these accusations against Einstein are relatively new", please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as "not relatively new"

    Replies: @Realist

    As far as “these accusations against Einstein are relatively new”, please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as “not relatively new”

    Let me do some interpretation for you. In 1931 Germany, the Nazis were prominent. One of their more stupid ideologies was that Jewish science was wrong and not worthy of Aryans. So where is the surprise that a book discrediting Einstein was printed in 1931, Germany? Only a dumbass would use that as a legitimate reason to discredit Einstein.

    • Replies: @Suetonious
    @Realist

    What is the meaning of the term 'dumbass' in this context? Are you suggesting that the non-dumbass position is to assume that all of those signatories were lying because the National Socialist German Workers' Party was two years away from attaining power?

    Replies: @Realist

  • @Realist
    @RickMcHale


    It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.
     
    Indeed, this is true. These accusations against Einstein are relatively new and are meant to denigrate all Jews by bringing down the most prominent Jewish scientist.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @Che Guava

    Einstein’s main role was as a show-pony for Herzl in the latter’s tour to promote Zionism in the very early twenties of last century, now referred to as ‘Einstein’s world tour’, but in fact Herzl’s world tour.

    Perhaps people are just tired of it?

    Something as blatant as ‘Doctor Know’ in Spielberg’s progaganda-fest AI is pretty ugly. Much more in the same line in Jewish-dominated pop culture.

    The photo-electric effect, sure, interesting and worthwhile, but the world’s greatest genius evar (as claimed by Jews) would never recognise its relation with quantum mechanics.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Che Guava

    You are a troll.

  • @Happy Tapir
    @Che Guava

    Neutrons wave. De broglie and all? Any particle will as a function of size

    Replies: @Che Guava

    Yes, I partly forgot about de Broglie’s work, after all, the wave nature of electrons was at the core of his work.

    Indeterminacy may apply to positions and trajectories of neutrons too, but I haven’t seen a convincing demonstration or theory of it, fission power and weapons rely on ballistic behaviour of neutrons.

    Neutrinos don’t seem to have any wave-like nature at all.

  • Millikan’s greatest scientific achievement was the isolation the electron and the measurement of its charge. Millikan was awarded a Nobel Prize in 1923 for the famous oil-drop experiment, which measured the electron charge.

    That follows the usual account you find on, for example, Britannica’s website.

    Millikan was indeed awarded the Nobel prize for measuring the charge of an individual electron, one of the most famous experiments in physics, but the prize should have been shared with another man if not given to him alone.  What came to be known as the Millikan Oil-drop Experiment was actually devised and performed by Millikan’s graduate student, Harvey Fletcher, using work done by Erich Regener as a starting point.

    Fletcher wrote an article describing what really happened, instructing his heirs that it be published after his death.  Here it is:
        My Work with Millikan on the Oil-drop Experiment
        Physics Today June 1982.
    (The layout is a bit confusing because the editor’s background material, set in a slightly smaller font, is interleaved with Fletcher’s article.)

    Fletcher is too polite in his article.  Turns out I talked with Fletcher casually – a stranger in the lobby of an auditorium – about a year before he died.  He was much more forthright talking to me about the affair than he was in his article.  He was most emphatic that it was he who was responsible for the Millikan Oil-drop Experiment, not Millikan.

    Though in his article he goes out of his way to say he feels only gratitude towards Millikan for helping his career and doesn’t feel too badly about not being bylined in the first and most important paper – most of which he wrote – describing the groundbreaking discovery, talking with him in the late 70’s I got the impression that he was still concerned about it at the age of 92.

    The Wikipedia entry on the experiment is halfway more accurate than Britannica in that the beginning says the experiment was performed by both Millikan and Fletcher, but then the rest of the article forgets about Fletcher.  The Wikipedia entry on Fletcher says he is credited with collaborating with Millikan on the experiment.

    About the photoelectric effect: has Millikan’s experiment ever been duplicated, or as they say, replicated?  Carver Mead, also at Caltech, doesn’t believe the result (which he mentions in his book Collective Electrodynamics) but I haven’t looked into it.

    All this is a digression from the TUR / Jigger Wit article, which argues that Millikan doesn’t deserve the treatment the blasted leftists – call them by their right name: communists – give him.

    • Thanks: Che Guava
  • @Ron Unz
    I just finished reading the full prepint in question, which I'd highly recommend.

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech "witch-finding committee" is utterly appalling.

    Nobel Laureate Robert Millikan was one of our greatest scientists and he served as the founding father of Caltech, but during the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, he was purged from all of his honors.

    One of the main charges against him had been his alleged support for Japanese internment during World War II. But in actuality, he courageously served as Vice President of the California organization formed to support Japanese-American civil rights.

    Another top accusation against him was his support for Eugenics, which seems to have been quite minor and little different from that expressed by the overwhelming majority of educated individuals in his era. Ironically enough, the supposedly "anti-Eugenics" academics cited by the purging mob actually included leading supporters of Eugenics, most notably Hermann Muller. Here's a 2017 comment of mine that briefly touched on him:

    Ironically enough, one of the most prominent (half-)Jewish geneticists of that era was Nobel Laureate Hermann Muller, a hard-core Communist and also apparently a fanatic Eugenicist.

    He emigrated to the USSR during the 1930s and supposedly tried to persuade Stalin to make Eugenics a central pillar of their drive to create “a New Soviet Man,” but Old Joe didn’t like his ideas, and he eventually needed to flee the country to avoid the Gulag.

    Presumably, if things had gone a little differently, every good leftist, S.J. Gould certainly included, would have hailed Eugenics as core principle of Scientific Socialism, and to suggest otherwise would bring down the wrath of the harder-core SJWs, or in earlier times, perhaps nine grams to the back of the neck.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/damnatio-memoriae-in-silicon-valley-who-is-next/#comment-1804790

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @eah, @Poupon Marx, @newrouter

    “In California, eugenic practice took the form of a large sterilization program.”

    Isn’t the “transgender” movement a “form of a large sterilization program”?

  • @Realist
    @Suetonious

    Perhaps some or all of the authors disbelieve his theories. But any asshole can write a book.
    The book is in German; I take it you can read German and have read it.

    Replies: @Suetonious

    As far as “these accusations against Einstein are relatively new”, please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as “not relatively new”

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Suetonious


    As far as “these accusations against Einstein are relatively new”, please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as “not relatively new”
     
    Let me do some interpretation for you. In 1931 Germany, the Nazis were prominent. One of their more stupid ideologies was that Jewish science was wrong and not worthy of Aryans. So where is the surprise that a book discrediting Einstein was printed in 1931, Germany? Only a dumbass would use that as a legitimate reason to discredit Einstein.

    Replies: @Suetonious

  • @Zachary Smith
    Assuming what this author says about Millikan's very casual relationship with eugenics is correct, I'm inclined to agree it's a tempest in a teapot. Caltech is simply trying to appear virtuous at the expense of a long-dead scientist.

    While making a few searches on the situation, I did run into an issue I personally find to be more serious.

    Lawsuit says Caltech Provost and others ignored Israeli spying and then retaliated against whistleblower
    https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/sp-caltech.html

    Spying by the Apartheid state has virtually no consequences in the US, and since Caltech has many government contracts by way of its JPL division, they'd have found it prudent to ignore spies of the shithole state. After all, two parts of American Government are controlled by God's Favorite Thieves and Murderers - they're content to allow the Vatican to retain control of the Supreme Court.

    But kicking around dead scientists isn't at all risky.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “…– they’re content to allow the Vatican to retain control of the Supreme Court.”

    So are we his second favorite thieves and murderers?

  • Cessation of the reproduction of the unfit means abortion and birth control. Having read thousands of comments over the years, I’ve noticed the Men of UNZ are opposed to both.

  • Every department seems filled with a critical mass of the type of woman who cannot see the forest for the trees and simply does not seem to “get it,” for all of their competence in the narrow fields they’ve been hired on to work in.

    Exactly, a common situation. Book smart at reproduction, but unable to apply it in real world or de novo situations. Although there are some outstanding women.

  • @dearieme
    @RickMcHale

    I taught myself Special Relativity from a book decades ago. The author suggested that Einstein had misbehaved by giving no credit to precursors, especially Fitzgerald, Poincare, and Lorentz?. Note, however, that that isn't at all the same thing as saying that his work was not original, it simply says that it didn't appear out of a clear blue sky.

    I've never seen anyone suggest that General Relativity wasn't original. Einstein was more generous at giving credit, acknowledging the chap who'd done the maths for him. That mathematician confirmed that his contribution was secondary; it was Einstein who invented the physics.

    I assume that was the context in which Einstein described himself as not being much of a mathematician.

    Attributing anything of consequence to Einstein's first wife seems to me to be footling childishness.

    Not a very nice man, Herr Einstein, but a remarkably successful theoretical physicist.

    Replies: @anon

    Peanut butter and chocolate more important than Relativity.
    So too is buttered popcorn.

  • @Suetonious
    @Realist

    100 Authors against Einstein. Published 1931

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/3226005375

    Replies: @Realist

    Perhaps some or all of the authors disbelieve his theories. But any asshole can write a book.
    The book is in German; I take it you can read German and have read it.

    • Agree: Suetonious
    • Replies: @Suetonious
    @Realist

    As far as "these accusations against Einstein are relatively new", please allow me to translate the German for you. One-nine-three-one, or 1931. One could also interpret it as "not relatively new"

    Replies: @Realist

  • @Hulkamania
    @Chebyshev


    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years.
     
    What? They all do. Affirmative action started with females and females have historically benefitted most from the practice.

    Replies: @Chebyshev

    What? They all do. Affirmative action started with females and females have historically benefitted most from the practice.

    I think generally these days colleges get more qualified female applicants than male applicants, so in order to maintain gender balance, there’s a boost given to male applicants, however the reverse is true at the schools more focused on STEM.

    https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decline-of-men-in-college-its-harder-for-women-to-get-in/

    https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2023/03/brown-has-largest-acceptance-rate-gap-between-men-women-in-ivy-league

    Some of the large state universities, like Texas and Florida, are almost 60% female. These schools probably don’t want to have that much of an imbalance.

  • @Chebyshev
    It sounds like Millikan was a great scientist and university founder. The fact that his name was removed from his university's library shows how crazy the climate was in spring/summer 2020 because of the anti-police activists.

    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years. The female share of its undergraduate population has grown a lot recently, almost to parity with men:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/?r&ID=110404&Institution=California+Institute+of+Technology

    Although if their public statements have been true regarding their approach to admissions (until last month), Caltech hasn't been giving women any boost in undergraduate admissions. It could be that male academic performance has gotten worse recently and so more women are being admitted.

    Replies: @Realist, @Hulkamania, @Poupon Marx

    I have advised those on here with college age children to consider sending their worthies to a Russian university. It is obvious that Russia has a vast intellectual class and has had. Simply, Russian cultural values are high values and stress excellence, as they have always done.

    Higher learning centers of the West are all degraded and demoted in mission and commission.
    No contemporary, modern, Post Modern excrement has been allowed to come close.

    Moscow State University- M. V. Lomonosov Moscow State University is a public research university in Moscow, Russia. The university includes 15 research institutes, 43 faculties, more than 300 departments, and six branches. Alumni of the university include past leaders of the Soviet Union and other governments. Tuition- $381.00 per year

    Programs taught in English- https://international.msu.ru/programs-english

    HSE University (Russian: «Высшая школа экономики», ВШЭ), officially the National Research University Higher School of Economics (Russian: Национальный исследовательский университет «Высшая школа экономики») is a public research university founded in 1992 and headquartered in Moscow, Russia. Along with its main campus located in the capital, the university maintains three other regional campuses in Nizhny Novgorod, Perm and Saint Petersburg.[8] There is also the Lyceum at the National Research University Higher School of Economics in Moscow.

    Widely regarded among the most prestigious universities in Russia and the CIS,[9][10] it acquired the status of “national research university” in 2009. HSE was the first educational institution in Russia to successfully introduce Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees, having also taken part in the development and implementation of the Unified State Exam to modernize education and health care systems of Russia.

    Starting from 2013, HSE University has also participated in the Project 5-100 (the project was initiated by the Ministry of Education and Science to promote at least five Russian universities to the top 100 universities according to Times Higher Education World University Rankings, QS World University Rankings, and Academic Ranking of World Universities[11]). In 2022 it was ranked #568 in Best Global Universities by U.S. News & World Report, and #881 by Center for World University Rankings, and in 2020 it was ranked in the #801-900 group in the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU), also known as the Shanghai Ranking.[12][13][14]

    HSE offers education at all levels – from a lyceum for school students to post-graduate and MBA programmes. Students can pursue training in a number of fields, including the social sciences, economics, humanities, law, engineering, computer science, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and biotechnology, as well as in creative disciplines. HSE is the only university in Russia that is ranked in top 100 of the Times Higher Education Young University Rankings.[15] Furthermore, university representatives are part of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation and the Expert Council under the Government of Russia.

    In 1997, HSE University and the London School of Economics (LSE) signed the agreement on establishing The International College of Economics and Finance (ICEF), that was later renamed to “International Institute of Economics and Finance”. According to the regulations of the University of London, starting from the second year, students take classes in English. Upon the successful completion of requirements, they receive a double diploma issued by the University of London and the Higher School of Economics.

    Major Russian universities are highly internationalized. Russia is and will continue to pivot EAST, “where the action is”. Where the various diseases caused by the (((Plague Givers))) have no influence. For someone looking for a future, I would tell you The West Has Been De-Blessed. Real power and quality of life will be centered in the East and the Global South. Tuition- ~ $5,000.00 a year

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
    @Poupon Marx

    > "No contemporary, modern, Post Modern excrement has been allowed to come close."

    > "...successfully introduce Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees, having also taken part in the development and implementation of the Unified State Exam to modernize education and health care systems of Russia."

    I know this is old, but for the sake of anyone reading your ill-informed advice in the future, you are omitting crucial details of how prevalent the sentiment is among the Russians themselves that:
    1) the EU Bologna Process ("system") is considered a destruction of the good old Soviet education;
    2) the Unified State Exam is widely reviled for its ABC test questions with no substance;
    3) Russian universities are deemed as breeding grounds for rabid anti-Russian liberals, and are full of American NGOs.

    As to the sources... Just use your web search engine to type anything along the lines of болонская система жж, and there you go.

    The Bologna system is a system for the destruction of classical European education
    https://arctus.livejournal.com/1077021.html


    By the way, what does the statement “ all academic degrees and other qualifications must be oriented towards the labor market ” actually mean? This in itself is something crazy: academic and market - even for the past era of a market economy - phenomena of different levels. Academic – focused on fundamentality and long-term. Market – based on market conditions and short-termism.
     
  • @Che Guava
    @Happy Tapir


    Even today, wave-particle duality poses puzzling philosophical questions.
     
    I disagree, on first encountering the idea in physics classes and confirming it in lab. assigments, it is fascinating. For a few weeks, enjoyed doing the calculations for particle equivalents at different wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum and the wavelengths of elementary particles and larger objects. Fun.

    In the end, though, the maln points for intuitive understanding are that electrons display very wave-like behaviour in free space and under other conditions, and electromagnetic waves become increasingly particle-like with increasing frequency. Thus the terms 'hard' and 'soft' X-ray.

    Does any electrically neutral particle really display wave-matter duality, as basic examples the neutron or neutrino? Sure, one may calculate an equivalent wavelength for the neutron, but it doesn't seem to mean anything as far as actual particle behaviour. Neutrons don't have wave-like behaviour, and except for similar velocity to electromagnetic waves, neither do neutrinos.

    I don't see any puzzling philosophical questions here.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Does any electrically neutral particle really display wave-matter duality, as basic examples the neutron or neutrino?”

    Isn’t a photon electrically neutral? Why should a charge make a difference? We know electron diffraction exists.

    https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/media/lancaster-university/content-assets/images/physics/lab-in-a-box/LabInABox_ElectronDiffraction.pdf

    It looks as if neutrino diffraction is a thing, at least theoretically.

    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006A%26G….47e..31F/abstract

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920563211007948

  • @Happy Tapir
    Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @James J. O'Meara, @Che Guava, @Che Guava, @YetAnotherAnon

    A pity. In my English state school we 17 year olds repeated Millikan’s Experiment as part of Physics A-Level*.

    * the highest qualification most people will do at school. On “A-level” results depends admission to university.

  • CalTech is as woke and retrograde as any American institution nowadays. I must be cagey about my remarks because litigation is ongoing, but I’ve worked at CalTech and I can say from my own experience that feminism is taken for granted and given priority in many practical considerations. Ideology has as strong an influence on hiring practices as any school I’ve had experience with, and noticeably, consistently impedes workflow and general prospect of getting anything done to a degree of expedience or a standard of quality that one would have expected just 15 or 20 years ago. Every department seems filled with a critical mass of the type of woman who cannot see the forest for the trees and simply does not seem to “get it,” for all of their competence in the narrow fields they’ve been hired on to work in.

    • Thanks: Alden
  • Anonymous[423] • Disclaimer says:

    World needs to know more about these american, british and elite banking jew completely fake, hugely double standarded criminals and terrorists that they have been all their history. These and their criminal, sick minds are their secret weapons to their current positions, but everybody is finally starting to see through these completely fake, sick and criminal people.

  • @Che Guava
    @Anon

    I suspect that it is true to some extent, she may have been responsible for the neat and readable notation, perhaps more.

    However, neither paper on relativity had any original ideas, both were syntheses of earlier work, Maric may have been responsible for that (my opinion, at least an important, likely prime role, but written evidence for that no longer exists, if it ever did).

    I made a detailed edit on the sources of Einstein's plagiarism for both special and general relativity, mentioning the likely role of his wife, on English Wikipedia.

    The reaction was furious, I did nothing but my initial edit, but checked at times to see what was happening. It was very funny and demonstrated that many people understand that Einstein is, to a large extent, a fraudulent mythos.

    After three days of people fighting over the page, the Wikipedia Jews closed editing of the page. It had been fun to watch,

    This is even more off-topic, but this thread would attract those interested in physics, irritating tone at times, but very educational (many points I never knew before) and entertaining, and is about a stage of transition. Recommended reading.
    https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-great-ptolemaic-smackdown.html?m=1

    Replies: @Anon

    Illuminating story – thank you.

  • @RickMcHale
    @Realist

    As a layman myself in this area it is still very difficult for me to believe that Einstein was a plagiarist in any way. Anti Semitism was certainly a more prevalent and more powerful entity during his time and I cannot accept the idea that his academic peers, and any talented critics, would not have completely reviewed Einstein's work for any possible measure of dishonesty or professional inaccuracy. It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.

    Replies: @Realist, @dearieme

    I taught myself Special Relativity from a book decades ago. The author suggested that Einstein had misbehaved by giving no credit to precursors, especially Fitzgerald, Poincare, and Lorentz?. Note, however, that that isn’t at all the same thing as saying that his work was not original, it simply says that it didn’t appear out of a clear blue sky.

    I’ve never seen anyone suggest that General Relativity wasn’t original. Einstein was more generous at giving credit, acknowledging the chap who’d done the maths for him. That mathematician confirmed that his contribution was secondary; it was Einstein who invented the physics.

    I assume that was the context in which Einstein described himself as not being much of a mathematician.

    Attributing anything of consequence to Einstein’s first wife seems to me to be footling childishness.

    Not a very nice man, Herr Einstein, but a remarkably successful theoretical physicist.

    • Replies: @anon
    @dearieme

    Peanut butter and chocolate more important than Relativity.
    So too is buttered popcorn.

  • @Realist
    @RickMcHale


    It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.
     
    Indeed, this is true. These accusations against Einstein are relatively new and are meant to denigrate all Jews by bringing down the most prominent Jewish scientist.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @Che Guava

    100 Authors against Einstein. Published 1931

    • Thanks: Pierre de Craon, Che Guava
    • Replies: @Realist
    @Suetonious

    Perhaps some or all of the authors disbelieve his theories. But any asshole can write a book.
    The book is in German; I take it you can read German and have read it.

    Replies: @Suetonious

  • @RickMcHale
    @Realist

    As a layman myself in this area it is still very difficult for me to believe that Einstein was a plagiarist in any way. Anti Semitism was certainly a more prevalent and more powerful entity during his time and I cannot accept the idea that his academic peers, and any talented critics, would not have completely reviewed Einstein's work for any possible measure of dishonesty or professional inaccuracy. It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.

    Replies: @Realist, @dearieme

    It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.

    Indeed, this is true. These accusations against Einstein are relatively new and are meant to denigrate all Jews by bringing down the most prominent Jewish scientist.

    • Replies: @Suetonious
    @Realist

    100 Authors against Einstein. Published 1931

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/3226005375

    Replies: @Realist

    , @Che Guava
    @Realist

    Einstein's main role was as a show-pony for Herzl in the latter's tour to promote Zionism in the very early twenties of last century, now referred to as 'Einstein's world tour', but in fact Herzl's world tour.

    Perhaps people are just tired of it?

    Something as blatant as 'Doctor Know' in Spielberg's progaganda-fest AI is pretty ugly. Much more in the same line in Jewish-dominated pop culture.

    The photo-electric effect, sure, interesting and worthwhile, but the world's greatest genius evar (as claimed by Jews) would never recognise its relation with quantum mechanics.

    Replies: @Realist

  • anon[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    If Einstein was a fraud, then so were the likes of Bohr, Godel, Oppenheimer, Pauli, (long list omitted ….) who all interacted with him and had huge respect for him. You can’t fake your way with every single one of these big brains unless you also have a theory how these were all fakers just like good old Albert.

  • @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    I suspect that it is true to some extent, she may have been responsible for the neat and readable notation, perhaps more.

    However, neither paper on relativity had any original ideas, both were syntheses of earlier work, Maric may have been responsible for that (my opinion, at least an important, likely prime role, but written evidence for that no longer exists, if it ever did).

    I made a detailed edit on the sources of Einstein’s plagiarism for both special and general relativity, mentioning the likely role of his wife, on English Wikipedia.

    The reaction was furious, I did nothing but my initial edit, but checked at times to see what was happening. It was very funny and demonstrated that many people understand that Einstein is, to a large extent, a fraudulent mythos.

    After three days of people fighting over the page, the Wikipedia Jews closed editing of the page. It had been fun to watch,

    This is even more off-topic, but this thread would attract those interested in physics, irritating tone at times, but very educational (many points I never knew before) and entertaining, and is about a stage of transition. Recommended reading.
    https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-great-ptolemaic-smackdown.html?m=1

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Che Guava

    Illuminating story - thank you.

  • @Che Guava
    @Happy Tapir

    Agree, and excuse my earlier non-reply, it was meant to start with a reply to your comment, but after losing the reply thrice, I became impatient and forgot that part.

    Replies: @Happy Tapir

    Neutrons wave. De broglie and all? Any particle will as a function of size

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    @Happy Tapir

    Yes, I partly forgot about de Broglie's work, after all, the wave nature of electrons was at the core of his work.

    Indeterminacy may apply to positions and trajectories of neutrons too, but I haven't seen a convincing demonstration or theory of it, fission power and weapons rely on ballistic behaviour of neutrons.

    Neutrinos don't seem to have any wave-like nature at all.

  • @Сергей Гончаров
    @Suetonious

    " in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, " What Communists or Communism have to do with this idiocy? It is all of your own capitalistic liberalism going mad doing. Great Pavlov was anti Soviet yet, Lenin and Soviet gave him everything he needed for his work. Not a single one Czarist era great scientist or statesman was cancelled or removed form history during Soviet times. It is all yours hence do not use the word Communism because you clearly doe snot understand the meaning. USA and the world under imperialism is moving in opposite to Communism direction hence degradation of everything.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @fnn

    OTOH, Stalin made the nonsense of Lysenko official state policy. and it’s said biologists who opposed him were sent to the Gulags.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
    @fnn

    Fun facts:
    Later resaearch proved Lysenko right.
    The West still refuses to accept the abiotic origin of Oil.

  • So, why hasn’t UCSD removed Ted Geisel’s name from their very distinctive library?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_messages_of_Dr._Seuss

    While a student at Dartmouth College in the 1920s, Theodor Seuss Geisel drew cartoons for the campus’s humor magazine, the Dartmouth Jack-O-Lantern, some of which contain anti-black racist and anti-Semitic elements.[1][2] His first work signed as “Dr. Seuss”, published in 1928, features East Asian stereotypes lampooning Japanese people.[1] From the late 1920s until the early 1940s, Seuss’s cartoons (some made for advertisements) variously featured racist depictions of East Asians, Arabs and Muslims, black people, Mexicans, and Native Americans—in addition to misogynist themes.[1] A 1929 cartoon for Judge magazine depicts white men browsing a department store, where they examine a crowd of stereotyped black people labeled as “niggers” for sale as high-grade firewood.[3]

  • @Ron Unz
    I just finished reading the full prepint in question, which I'd highly recommend.

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech "witch-finding committee" is utterly appalling.

    Nobel Laureate Robert Millikan was one of our greatest scientists and he served as the founding father of Caltech, but during the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, he was purged from all of his honors.

    One of the main charges against him had been his alleged support for Japanese internment during World War II. But in actuality, he courageously served as Vice President of the California organization formed to support Japanese-American civil rights.

    Another top accusation against him was his support for Eugenics, which seems to have been quite minor and little different from that expressed by the overwhelming majority of educated individuals in his era. Ironically enough, the supposedly "anti-Eugenics" academics cited by the purging mob actually included leading supporters of Eugenics, most notably Hermann Muller. Here's a 2017 comment of mine that briefly touched on him:

    Ironically enough, one of the most prominent (half-)Jewish geneticists of that era was Nobel Laureate Hermann Muller, a hard-core Communist and also apparently a fanatic Eugenicist.

    He emigrated to the USSR during the 1930s and supposedly tried to persuade Stalin to make Eugenics a central pillar of their drive to create “a New Soviet Man,” but Old Joe didn’t like his ideas, and he eventually needed to flee the country to avoid the Gulag.

    Presumably, if things had gone a little differently, every good leftist, S.J. Gould certainly included, would have hailed Eugenics as core principle of Scientific Socialism, and to suggest otherwise would bring down the wrath of the harder-core SJWs, or in earlier times, perhaps nine grams to the back of the neck.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/damnatio-memoriae-in-silicon-valley-who-is-next/#comment-1804790

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @eah, @Poupon Marx, @newrouter

    In the most recent light of what happened to Trump, confiscation of his property, revocation of his business licenses, with no trial, hearing, or even a shred of legal and precedent law, I am not surprised at the total breakdown of law and order in the USSA.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-rages-deranged-ny-judges-corporate-death-penalty-decision

    Lately many chain stores in the place on the map called The JUSA, announced the closings of several hundreds of stores nationwide. The annual cost of theft from retailers is about $116 billion dollars.. This cost, of course is passed on to the consumer.

    There is an entity behind all of these assaults on order, civilization, and law. A very small group, out of sight, using proxies and fronts, are determined to wreck all civilizations and make the World into one big Weimer Republic, at its worst and lowest erstwhile point. It’s various agents are spread to the wind as locust larvae, that now swarm the world, devouring all that is sustaining and necessary for existence.

    A question answers the question: Who OWNS the World? Find the answer for yourself and yours.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    @Poupon Marx

    Agree. I could not believe the latest, that a judge, who already brought one of the legal cases against Trump, actually raised a civil case against him.

    WTF, outrageous, found it hard to believe, even that it is allowed. The bitch has no personal interest in the situation of Trump properties, so how can she even bring the case?

    Also, one would assume that Trump has clever accountants working to minimise his taxes, but overstating property values would clearly raise related taxes.

    Taxes are the source of high income for this rabid bitch, and such actions convince the non-'murricans, not just lowly workers like me, but any foreign policy experts and thinking diplotats, that U.S.A. is like a car running on a blown tyre at high speed.

    Replies: @Poupon Marx

  • Some say einstein plagiarized? Bin Lanza, bin laden..

    ” Some latter-day writers have seized on these observations as proof that Einstein was a fraud, notably Christopher Jon Bjerknes, author of Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist (2002). The gist of his argument: (a) Einstein got many of his ideas from his first wife, Mileva Maric; (b) Maric herself plagiarized her ideas from others; and (c …”

    https://www.straightdope.com/21343699/was-einstein-a-plagiarist

  • This guy is not Chinese. He cannot have founded Cal Tech.

  • @Happy Tapir
    Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @James J. O'Meara, @Che Guava, @Che Guava, @YetAnotherAnon

    Agree, and excuse my earlier non-reply, it was meant to start with a reply to your comment, but after losing the reply thrice, I became impatient and forgot that part.

    • Replies: @Happy Tapir
    @Che Guava

    Neutrons wave. De broglie and all? Any particle will as a function of size

    Replies: @Che Guava

  • @Сергей Гончаров
    @Suetonious

    " in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, " What Communists or Communism have to do with this idiocy? It is all of your own capitalistic liberalism going mad doing. Great Pavlov was anti Soviet yet, Lenin and Soviet gave him everything he needed for his work. Not a single one Czarist era great scientist or statesman was cancelled or removed form history during Soviet times. It is all yours hence do not use the word Communism because you clearly doe snot understand the meaning. USA and the world under imperialism is moving in opposite to Communism direction hence degradation of everything.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @fnn

    It’s all part of the culture war. The Bolsheviks upended the imperial government and murdered the royal family. Furthermore, imperial Russia was officially an Orthodox Christian country and the Tsarist government was intertwined with the Russian Orthodox Church. Communism outlawed Christianity and replaced it with atheism. Thus, a thousand year history came to a halt. How is this not a year zero event?

    Of the tens of millions of people killed under the Bolshevik regime, are you arguing that not one of these people was a Tsarist-era scientist or statesman? How many fled the country before Lenin closed the border?

    The atrocities that occurred in the Soviet Union against its own people were known to Americans. Furthermore, capitalism had raised the standards of living for countless Americans. Therefore, economic Communism was never going to succeed in that country. In its place, cultural Marxism pitted social classes against each other. Rather than capital versus labor, American Communism takes the form of oppressors versus the oppressed, and the unfortunate Mr. Millikan has just been deemed an oppressor

  • @Happy Tapir
    Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @James J. O'Meara, @Che Guava, @Che Guava, @YetAnotherAnon

    Even today, wave-particle duality poses puzzling philosophical questions.

    I disagree, on first encountering the idea in physics classes and confirming it in lab. assigments, it is fascinating. For a few weeks, enjoyed doing the calculations for particle equivalents at different wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum and the wavelengths of elementary particles and larger objects. Fun.

    In the end, though, the maln points for intuitive understanding are that electrons display very wave-like behaviour in free space and under other conditions, and electromagnetic waves become increasingly particle-like with increasing frequency. Thus the terms ‘hard’ and ‘soft’ X-ray.

    Does any electrically neutral particle really display wave-matter duality, as basic examples the neutron or neutrino? Sure, one may calculate an equivalent wavelength for the neutron, but it doesn’t seem to mean anything as far as actual particle behaviour. Neutrons don’t have wave-like behaviour, and except for similar velocity to electromagnetic waves, neither do neutrinos.

    I don’t see any puzzling philosophical questions here.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Che Guava

    "Does any electrically neutral particle really display wave-matter duality, as basic examples the neutron or neutrino?"

    Isn't a photon electrically neutral? Why should a charge make a difference? We know electron diffraction exists.

    https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/media/lancaster-university/content-assets/images/physics/lab-in-a-box/LabInABox_ElectronDiffraction.pdf

    It looks as if neutrino diffraction is a thing, at least theoretically.

    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006A%26G....47e..31F/abstract

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920563211007948

  • @Realist
    @Anon


    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.
     
    It is generally a good idea not to comment on things you know nothing about to avoid embarrassment. It is not generally accepted, with the possible exception of this blog. Einstein, being a Jew, has taken many bad raps from those who wish to denigrate all Jews. There is no evidence that Einstein's first wife contributed anything to Albert's theories. Einstein was in the process of divorcing Mileva, so he offered his wife any prize money he received from an expected upcoming Nobel Prize. This was to support Einstein's two children.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.
     
    Are you a Serbian? Where do you get this bullshit?

    Replies: @RickMcHale

    As a layman myself in this area it is still very difficult for me to believe that Einstein was a plagiarist in any way. Anti Semitism was certainly a more prevalent and more powerful entity during his time and I cannot accept the idea that his academic peers, and any talented critics, would not have completely reviewed Einstein’s work for any possible measure of dishonesty or professional inaccuracy. It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @RickMcHale


    It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.
     
    Indeed, this is true. These accusations against Einstein are relatively new and are meant to denigrate all Jews by bringing down the most prominent Jewish scientist.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @Che Guava

    , @dearieme
    @RickMcHale

    I taught myself Special Relativity from a book decades ago. The author suggested that Einstein had misbehaved by giving no credit to precursors, especially Fitzgerald, Poincare, and Lorentz?. Note, however, that that isn't at all the same thing as saying that his work was not original, it simply says that it didn't appear out of a clear blue sky.

    I've never seen anyone suggest that General Relativity wasn't original. Einstein was more generous at giving credit, acknowledging the chap who'd done the maths for him. That mathematician confirmed that his contribution was secondary; it was Einstein who invented the physics.

    I assume that was the context in which Einstein described himself as not being much of a mathematician.

    Attributing anything of consequence to Einstein's first wife seems to me to be footling childishness.

    Not a very nice man, Herr Einstein, but a remarkably successful theoretical physicist.

    Replies: @anon

  • @Suetonious
    Millikan is, unfortunately, low-hanging fruit in the culture war. As opposed to Washington or Jefferson, few people have heard of this eminent scientist or will defend him. Yet his elimination from the history of Caltech continues to set a precedent, like the removal of statues, in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, at which point all of American history will be declared irredeemably racist and thus removed

    Replies: @Сергей Гончаров

    ” in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, ” What Communists or Communism have to do with this idiocy? It is all of your own capitalistic liberalism going mad doing. Great Pavlov was anti Soviet yet, Lenin and Soviet gave him everything he needed for his work. Not a single one Czarist era great scientist or statesman was cancelled or removed form history during Soviet times. It is all yours hence do not use the word Communism because you clearly doe snot understand the meaning. USA and the world under imperialism is moving in opposite to Communism direction hence degradation of everything.

    • Replies: @Suetonious
    @Сергей Гончаров

    It's all part of the culture war. The Bolsheviks upended the imperial government and murdered the royal family. Furthermore, imperial Russia was officially an Orthodox Christian country and the Tsarist government was intertwined with the Russian Orthodox Church. Communism outlawed Christianity and replaced it with atheism. Thus, a thousand year history came to a halt. How is this not a year zero event?

    Of the tens of millions of people killed under the Bolshevik regime, are you arguing that not one of these people was a Tsarist-era scientist or statesman? How many fled the country before Lenin closed the border?

    The atrocities that occurred in the Soviet Union against its own people were known to Americans. Furthermore, capitalism had raised the standards of living for countless Americans. Therefore, economic Communism was never going to succeed in that country. In its place, cultural Marxism pitted social classes against each other. Rather than capital versus labor, American Communism takes the form of oppressors versus the oppressed, and the unfortunate Mr. Millikan has just been deemed an oppressor

    , @fnn
    @Сергей Гончаров

    OTOH, Stalin made the nonsense of Lysenko official state policy. and it's said biologists who opposed him were sent to the Gulags.

    Replies: @Ed Case

  • Just wait until the widget inventor is great as Newton because in a world where the penis-piano Zelensky is compared to Churchill then anything is possible.

    • LOL: Che Guava
  • The unwitting victims of the Frankfort School are now in charge of most all universities. Einstein’s mathematical calculations were notorious off the mark and several books have recounted this fact. If Milliken is being executed it is for one reason – he is not Jewish and therefore, not protected.

  • Millikan is, unfortunately, low-hanging fruit in the culture war. As opposed to Washington or Jefferson, few people have heard of this eminent scientist or will defend him. Yet his elimination from the history of Caltech continues to set a precedent, like the removal of statues, in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, at which point all of American history will be declared irredeemably racist and thus removed

    • Replies: @Сергей Гончаров
    @Suetonious

    " in our march towards the Communist dream of a year zero, " What Communists or Communism have to do with this idiocy? It is all of your own capitalistic liberalism going mad doing. Great Pavlov was anti Soviet yet, Lenin and Soviet gave him everything he needed for his work. Not a single one Czarist era great scientist or statesman was cancelled or removed form history during Soviet times. It is all yours hence do not use the word Communism because you clearly doe snot understand the meaning. USA and the world under imperialism is moving in opposite to Communism direction hence degradation of everything.

    Replies: @Suetonious, @fnn

  • @Chebyshev
    It sounds like Millikan was a great scientist and university founder. The fact that his name was removed from his university's library shows how crazy the climate was in spring/summer 2020 because of the anti-police activists.

    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years. The female share of its undergraduate population has grown a lot recently, almost to parity with men:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/?r&ID=110404&Institution=California+Institute+of+Technology

    Although if their public statements have been true regarding their approach to admissions (until last month), Caltech hasn't been giving women any boost in undergraduate admissions. It could be that male academic performance has gotten worse recently and so more women are being admitted.

    Replies: @Realist, @Hulkamania, @Poupon Marx

    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years.

    What? They all do. Affirmative action started with females and females have historically benefitted most from the practice.

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
    @Hulkamania


    What? They all do. Affirmative action started with females and females have historically benefitted most from the practice.
     
    I think generally these days colleges get more qualified female applicants than male applicants, so in order to maintain gender balance, there's a boost given to male applicants, however the reverse is true at the schools more focused on STEM.

    https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decline-of-men-in-college-its-harder-for-women-to-get-in/

    https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2023/03/brown-has-largest-acceptance-rate-gap-between-men-women-in-ivy-league

    Some of the large state universities, like Texas and Florida, are almost 60% female. These schools probably don't want to have that much of an imbalance.
  • @Thomas Hales
    @dearieme

    The Caltech physicist David Goodstein has made a thorough analysis of Millikan's original lab notebooks. He discusses in detail the accusations of scientific fraud. According to Goodstein, "Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result." Goodstein's conclusion is that "he certainly did not commit scientific fraud in his seminal work on the charge of the electron."

    A false statement does appear in Millikan's paper about the selection of drops. According to Goodstein,


    I don’t think that any scientist, having studied Millikan’s techniques and procedures for conducting this most demanding and difficult experiment, would fault him in any way for picking out what he considered to be his most dependable measurements in order to arrive at the most accurate possible result. In the 1913 paper, he cites his result with an uncertainty of 0.2 percent, some 15 times better than the best previous measurement (which reported an error of 3 percent). Furthermore, the value of the charge of the electron today agrees with Millikan’s result within his cited uncertainty of 0.2 percent. The experiment was nothing less than a masterpiece, and the 1913 paper reporting it is a classic of scientific exposition. Nevertheless, it contains the phrase “this is not a selected group of drops, but represents all the drops experimented upon during 60 consecutive days,” which is manifestly untrue. The question is, why did Millikan mar his masterpiece with a statement that clearly is not true?

     

    Goodstein, David L. "In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan." Engineering and Science 63.4 (2000): 30-38.

    Replies: @Gizmo880, @dearieme

    What an unpersuasive defence. “Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result.”

    What does he mean by “bias”? What on earth is “the overall result”? Is Goldstein saying that the results Millikan inferred from his selected drops agreed with each other? That’s essentially a tautology.

    What does Goldstein mean by “selective”? The question is surely whether Millikan had sufficient reason to reject the unwelcome results.

    I’m not surprised that some people think there’s an odour of stinking fish about this business. Is there also an odour about a Caltech employee defending Millikan? Could be.

  • @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    It is generally a good idea not to comment on things you know nothing about to avoid embarrassment. It is not generally accepted, with the possible exception of this blog. Einstein, being a Jew, has taken many bad raps from those who wish to denigrate all Jews. There is no evidence that Einstein’s first wife contributed anything to Albert’s theories. Einstein was in the process of divorcing Mileva, so he offered his wife any prize money he received from an expected upcoming Nobel Prize. This was to support Einstein’s two children.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Are you a Serbian? Where do you get this bullshit?

    • Replies: @RickMcHale
    @Realist

    As a layman myself in this area it is still very difficult for me to believe that Einstein was a plagiarist in any way. Anti Semitism was certainly a more prevalent and more powerful entity during his time and I cannot accept the idea that his academic peers, and any talented critics, would not have completely reviewed Einstein's work for any possible measure of dishonesty or professional inaccuracy. It would have been virtually impossible for him to escape such focused review of his work.

    Replies: @Realist, @dearieme

  • @James J. O'Meara
    @Ron Unz


    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.
     
    Ideological extremism makes competence irrelevant (and personally dangerous: "he is unreliable" = he may reach the wrong conclusion)

    In line with the whole idea of canceling, and of affirmative action: if the result is politically correct, the methods don't matter. We already know the answer, right?

    In a way, it makes sense, or at least it's consistent (ironically enough). Ideally, the Counsel of Science will simply list all the "facts," and you just have to agree. No need for wasteful, time consuming, HARD things like constructing valid arguments or conducting experiments. Progress!

    Come to think about it, that's how theology works. The difference btw historians and "biblical scholars", even at the same institution, is that the latter already know the answers (depending on their denomination) and their job is to shake, prune and jam together the pieces to fit.

    Replies: @G. Poulin

    Theology and Biblical scholarship are (ideally at least) two separate disciplines. A good Biblical scholar uses the scientific method to arrive at his conclusions, and avoids theology like the plague. Sound scholarship frequently proves to be a thorn in the side of the theologians, who often have some metaphysical axe to grind.

  • The woke crowd don’t let the truth get in their way in their quest to destroy the reputations of eminent dead white males like Millikan, who aren’t around any more to defend themselves. As well as telling complete lies about such men, the woke crowd pick and choose what they want and judge the world of the past by today’s standards. If held up to proper journalistic and authorship standards, very few woke writers would even get the lowest grade. It’s so easy to kick a corpse.

  • @Chebyshev
    It sounds like Millikan was a great scientist and university founder. The fact that his name was removed from his university's library shows how crazy the climate was in spring/summer 2020 because of the anti-police activists.

    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years. The female share of its undergraduate population has grown a lot recently, almost to parity with men:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/?r&ID=110404&Institution=California+Institute+of+Technology

    Although if their public statements have been true regarding their approach to admissions (until last month), Caltech hasn't been giving women any boost in undergraduate admissions. It could be that male academic performance has gotten worse recently and so more women are being admitted.

    Replies: @Realist, @Hulkamania, @Poupon Marx

    As is the case with most universities…Caltech has screwed the pooch.

  • @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    I’ve read in several different places that Olinto DePretto published “Einstein’s relativity formula” in 1903 (2 years before Al) in the scientific journal Atte. I hadn’t heard of Maric before, but I’ll have to look into him. When I was at school, we had a professor who swore Albert’s wife was actually the source of his “genius”. In order to actually find out, we’ll have to contact his royal holiness, high priest and head Kleagle, Fauci the Magnificent. He is, after all, “The Science”.

  • The destruction of Caltech by shit-for-brains liberals is not unique. There is a concerted effort to weaken our institutes of higher education.

  • @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    Interesting. I’d heard it was Henri Poincare who came up with the idea. One way or another, it sounds like Einstein was a shameless plagiarist.

  • @Ron Unz
    I just finished reading the full prepint in question, which I'd highly recommend.

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech "witch-finding committee" is utterly appalling.

    Nobel Laureate Robert Millikan was one of our greatest scientists and he served as the founding father of Caltech, but during the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, he was purged from all of his honors.

    One of the main charges against him had been his alleged support for Japanese internment during World War II. But in actuality, he courageously served as Vice President of the California organization formed to support Japanese-American civil rights.

    Another top accusation against him was his support for Eugenics, which seems to have been quite minor and little different from that expressed by the overwhelming majority of educated individuals in his era. Ironically enough, the supposedly "anti-Eugenics" academics cited by the purging mob actually included leading supporters of Eugenics, most notably Hermann Muller. Here's a 2017 comment of mine that briefly touched on him:

    Ironically enough, one of the most prominent (half-)Jewish geneticists of that era was Nobel Laureate Hermann Muller, a hard-core Communist and also apparently a fanatic Eugenicist.

    He emigrated to the USSR during the 1930s and supposedly tried to persuade Stalin to make Eugenics a central pillar of their drive to create “a New Soviet Man,” but Old Joe didn’t like his ideas, and he eventually needed to flee the country to avoid the Gulag.

    Presumably, if things had gone a little differently, every good leftist, S.J. Gould certainly included, would have hailed Eugenics as core principle of Scientific Socialism, and to suggest otherwise would bring down the wrath of the harder-core SJWs, or in earlier times, perhaps nine grams to the back of the neck.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/damnatio-memoriae-in-silicon-valley-who-is-next/#comment-1804790

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @eah, @Poupon Marx, @newrouter

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech “witch-finding committee” is utterly appalling.

    Yet elsewhere you seem reluctant to concede that a similar kind of ‘ideological extremism’ may result in affirmative action, i.e. explicit racial preferences, in admissions at Caltech, specifically that it may be behind the rise in the number of Hispanics being admitted to Caltech.

    But thanks for publishing this article; otherwise I may not have seen it — and special thanks to the author, Thomas Hales, for writing it, and helping to expose the foul ex post facto political condemnation of Millikan.

    I have long regarded the early 20th century as a remarkable and very interesting period of achievement in the physical sciences, and have a whole collection of books about that era, including biographies of the major figures — Mr Hales was right to point out that Einstein received the Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, one of his annus mirabilis papers that came to be regarded as a cornerstone of quantum physics, rather than for his paper on special relativity, for which he is much better known.

  • James J. O'Meara [AKA "Peter D. Bredon"] says:
    @Happy Tapir
    Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @James J. O'Meara, @Che Guava, @Che Guava, @YetAnotherAnon

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Indeed. It’s the “contagion” theory of ritual pollution, as studied by Mary Douglas and others. Millikan’s sinful nature contaminates all he touched, and is passed down to those who touch those things in turn. He, Caltech, and all his papers must be put to the torch and purified by fire.

    BTW, this is how the OT works. It’s almost as if Levitical priests are in control.

    Perhaps CalTech can get away with just swinging a chicken over their school?

  • @Redbone
    The photo the article leads with is a pasteup. The heads are cut out of other photos and pasted on. Also, the guy on the left is doing the Hidden Hand. I am not exactly sure what that all means, but I doubt it's good.

    Replies: @Thomas Hales, @James J. O'Meara

    Who do you think you are, Miles Mathis? Einstein’s head is disproportionate because of all his big brains!

  • James J. O'Meara [AKA "Peter D. Bredon"] says:
    @Ron Unz
    I just finished reading the full prepint in question, which I'd highly recommend.

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech "witch-finding committee" is utterly appalling.

    Nobel Laureate Robert Millikan was one of our greatest scientists and he served as the founding father of Caltech, but during the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, he was purged from all of his honors.

    One of the main charges against him had been his alleged support for Japanese internment during World War II. But in actuality, he courageously served as Vice President of the California organization formed to support Japanese-American civil rights.

    Another top accusation against him was his support for Eugenics, which seems to have been quite minor and little different from that expressed by the overwhelming majority of educated individuals in his era. Ironically enough, the supposedly "anti-Eugenics" academics cited by the purging mob actually included leading supporters of Eugenics, most notably Hermann Muller. Here's a 2017 comment of mine that briefly touched on him:

    Ironically enough, one of the most prominent (half-)Jewish geneticists of that era was Nobel Laureate Hermann Muller, a hard-core Communist and also apparently a fanatic Eugenicist.

    He emigrated to the USSR during the 1930s and supposedly tried to persuade Stalin to make Eugenics a central pillar of their drive to create “a New Soviet Man,” but Old Joe didn’t like his ideas, and he eventually needed to flee the country to avoid the Gulag.

    Presumably, if things had gone a little differently, every good leftist, S.J. Gould certainly included, would have hailed Eugenics as core principle of Scientific Socialism, and to suggest otherwise would bring down the wrath of the harder-core SJWs, or in earlier times, perhaps nine grams to the back of the neck.
     
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/damnatio-memoriae-in-silicon-valley-who-is-next/#comment-1804790

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    Replies: @James J. O'Meara, @eah, @Poupon Marx, @newrouter

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    Ideological extremism makes competence irrelevant (and personally dangerous: “he is unreliable” = he may reach the wrong conclusion)

    In line with the whole idea of canceling, and of affirmative action: if the result is politically correct, the methods don’t matter. We already know the answer, right?

    In a way, it makes sense, or at least it’s consistent (ironically enough). Ideally, the Counsel of Science will simply list all the “facts,” and you just have to agree. No need for wasteful, time consuming, HARD things like constructing valid arguments or conducting experiments. Progress!

    Come to think about it, that’s how theology works. The difference btw historians and “biblical scholars”, even at the same institution, is that the latter already know the answers (depending on their denomination) and their job is to shake, prune and jam together the pieces to fit.

    • Replies: @G. Poulin
    @James J. O'Meara

    Theology and Biblical scholarship are (ideally at least) two separate disciplines. A good Biblical scholar uses the scientific method to arrive at his conclusions, and avoids theology like the plague. Sound scholarship frequently proves to be a thorn in the side of the theologians, who often have some metaphysical axe to grind.

  • Dr. Hales’ article reminds me of the hullabaloo surrounding the still-living Dr. James Watson. Certainly the circumstances are different but the outcome is the same – a man of rare brilliance and achievement must be ostracized because he is brilliant, because he is not one of the masses.

    It was sickening to read that Caltech has willfully succumbed to the pressures of our American Idiocracy. Many people believe that human logic and intelligence, the frontiers of the human mind, will always (if incrementally) advance. I disagree. The example of Caltech, circa A.D. 2023, is another arrow in my quiver should I want to argue the point.

    It is of note that Dr. Hales’ own curriculum vitae is quite remarkable. In the West such persons are becoming more rare, because (at least to some degree) such persons are becoming viewed as a threat rather than an asset.

    • Agree: Realist
  • @Redbone
    The photo the article leads with is a pasteup. The heads are cut out of other photos and pasted on. Also, the guy on the left is doing the Hidden Hand. I am not exactly sure what that all means, but I doubt it's good.

    Replies: @Thomas Hales, @James J. O'Meara

  • @Happy Tapir
    Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    Replies: @silviosilver, @James J. O'Meara, @Che Guava, @Che Guava, @YetAnotherAnon

    But he sounds really white though. He even looks it. That can’t be good for POC students!

    • LOL: Realist
  • @Anon
    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    Replies: @JR Foley, @Eireannach, @Rich, @Realist, @Che Guava, @anon

    I was shocked hearing this on CBC Saturday morning years ago on Quirks and Quarks (an excellent radio program on all things scientific) 1985 and the presenter stated what I thought was Fallacy –some woman responsible for theory of relativity and then I headed to Library and went “ape shit” trying to investigate all angles and sure enough—–Meliva Maric was genius and Albert was a complete opportunist and an ungrateful one at that—-this Unz Review is so wonderful and some commenters are great –Thanks again to Anon and no —you are not really off topic —Truth –only the Full Truth-

  • Using the US uni Putnam competition as the proxy for the quality of US STEM students. For Putnam Fellows, i.e. rank 1-25, Caltech has 0 since 2015, for MIT 2022 rank 1-5: 5/5, rank 6-15: 9/11, rank 17-25: 7/9.

    For Putnam Rank 1-100, Caltech has 0 since 2019, for MIT 2022: 70/100.

    And for 2022 Putname Rank 101-500, Caltech has measly 4, for MIT: 74/400.

    Application to MIT requires standard test SAT/ACT score, optional for other unis.

  • Clearly it’s a witch hunt. Every institution is looking for someone to crucify in order to get with the fashionable “purge us of white supremacy” program initiated by the anti trump establishment.

    What percentage of Americans know who Robert Millikan was? A tiny percentage of the more elite STEM students. How many know he was founder of cal tech? The ones of those who went to caltech! How many know anything about him biographically? Nada.

    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @Happy Tapir

    But he sounds really white though. He even looks it. That can't be good for POC students!

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Happy Tapir


    So clearly the opinions of robert Millikan could have no influence on contemporary American racial politics. Certainly neither George Floyd nor Derrick chauvin knew any of this, least of all Floyd. Clearly this and the entire statue removal pageant is a modern iconoclasm, similar in all respects to the various religious iconoclasms throughout history.
     
    Indeed. It's the "contagion" theory of ritual pollution, as studied by Mary Douglas and others. Millikan's sinful nature contaminates all he touched, and is passed down to those who touch those things in turn. He, Caltech, and all his papers must be put to the torch and purified by fire.

    BTW, this is how the OT works. It's almost as if Levitical priests are in control.

    Perhaps CalTech can get away with just swinging a chicken over their school?

    , @Che Guava
    @Happy Tapir


    Even today, wave-particle duality poses puzzling philosophical questions.
     
    I disagree, on first encountering the idea in physics classes and confirming it in lab. assigments, it is fascinating. For a few weeks, enjoyed doing the calculations for particle equivalents at different wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum and the wavelengths of elementary particles and larger objects. Fun.

    In the end, though, the maln points for intuitive understanding are that electrons display very wave-like behaviour in free space and under other conditions, and electromagnetic waves become increasingly particle-like with increasing frequency. Thus the terms 'hard' and 'soft' X-ray.

    Does any electrically neutral particle really display wave-matter duality, as basic examples the neutron or neutrino? Sure, one may calculate an equivalent wavelength for the neutron, but it doesn't seem to mean anything as far as actual particle behaviour. Neutrons don't have wave-like behaviour, and except for similar velocity to electromagnetic waves, neither do neutrinos.

    I don't see any puzzling philosophical questions here.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Che Guava
    @Happy Tapir

    Agree, and excuse my earlier non-reply, it was meant to start with a reply to your comment, but after losing the reply thrice, I became impatient and forgot that part.

    Replies: @Happy Tapir

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Happy Tapir

    A pity. In my English state school we 17 year olds repeated Millikan's Experiment as part of Physics A-Level*.

    * the highest qualification most people will do at school. On "A-level" results depends admission to university.

  • @Thomas Hales
    @dearieme

    The Caltech physicist David Goodstein has made a thorough analysis of Millikan's original lab notebooks. He discusses in detail the accusations of scientific fraud. According to Goodstein, "Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result." Goodstein's conclusion is that "he certainly did not commit scientific fraud in his seminal work on the charge of the electron."

    A false statement does appear in Millikan's paper about the selection of drops. According to Goodstein,


    I don’t think that any scientist, having studied Millikan’s techniques and procedures for conducting this most demanding and difficult experiment, would fault him in any way for picking out what he considered to be his most dependable measurements in order to arrive at the most accurate possible result. In the 1913 paper, he cites his result with an uncertainty of 0.2 percent, some 15 times better than the best previous measurement (which reported an error of 3 percent). Furthermore, the value of the charge of the electron today agrees with Millikan’s result within his cited uncertainty of 0.2 percent. The experiment was nothing less than a masterpiece, and the 1913 paper reporting it is a classic of scientific exposition. Nevertheless, it contains the phrase “this is not a selected group of drops, but represents all the drops experimented upon during 60 consecutive days,” which is manifestly untrue. The question is, why did Millikan mar his masterpiece with a statement that clearly is not true?

     

    Goodstein, David L. "In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan." Engineering and Science 63.4 (2000): 30-38.

    Replies: @Gizmo880, @dearieme

    As a holder of a Masters Degree in Physics I very much enjoyed this article and thank the author. It does appear that there is a little more to the oil-drop controversy than noted. From the Wikipedia article on Millikan…

    David Goodstein argues that Millikan’s statement, that all drops observed over a 60 day period were used in the paper, was clarified in a subsequent sentence which specified all “drops upon which complete series of observations were made”. Goodstein attests that this is indeed the case and notes that five pages of tables separate the two sentences.

    For anyone interested, here is a link to the David L. Goodstein article “In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan” that is referenced by the author in Comment 2 above.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20100625194742/http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/Millikan%20Feature.pdf

  • Ashkenazi Jewish controlled Caltech are attacking Millikan and other non-Ashkenazi Jews because they don’t want people to find out that the actual people behind Japanese internment are Ashkenazi Jews like Karl Bendetsen and Ashkenazi Jewish organized crime like the Chicago Outfit.

    • Thanks: Robertson
    • LOL: Realist
  • Science was conceived as the means by which inquiry sought to dispatch superstition, ignorance, and false assumptions to the wastebasket. On a few occasions exuberance caused scientists to reach further than their grasp. It takes too long sometime to falsify the conclusions where certainty reigned. Scientists wander down hallways where there is no illumination. Sometimes scientists hang on to assumptions long after the futility of pursuing them any further has been seen as redundant. Science is presently concerned about the intrusion of superstition, ignorance and false assumptions, once thought slain, overwhelming scientific enquiry to the detriment of scientific pursuit and its benefits.

    Minds never opened is ignorance. The closing of minds only partially opened is tragedy.

  • Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:

    (Warning off-topic)

    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.

    • Replies: @JR Foley
    @Anon

    I was shocked hearing this on CBC Saturday morning years ago on Quirks and Quarks (an excellent radio program on all things scientific) 1985 and the presenter stated what I thought was Fallacy --some woman responsible for theory of relativity and then I headed to Library and went "ape shit" trying to investigate all angles and sure enough-----Meliva Maric was genius and Albert was a complete opportunist and an ungrateful one at that----this Unz Review is so wonderful and some commenters are great --Thanks again to Anon and no ---you are not really off topic ---Truth --only the Full Truth-

    , @Eireannach
    @Anon

    Interesting. I'd heard it was Henri Poincare who came up with the idea. One way or another, it sounds like Einstein was a shameless plagiarist.

    , @Rich
    @Anon

    I've read in several different places that Olinto DePretto published "Einstein's relativity formula" in 1903 (2 years before Al) in the scientific journal Atte. I hadn't heard of Maric before, but I'll have to look into him. When I was at school, we had a professor who swore Albert's wife was actually the source of his "genius". In order to actually find out, we'll have to contact his royal holiness, high priest and head Kleagle, Fauci the Magnificent. He is, after all, "The Science".

    , @Realist
    @Anon


    It’s generally accepted today that Mileva Marić was responsible for the Theory of Rekstivity as well as other discoveries attributed to Einstein. Einstein even gave Mileva Marić his Nobel Prize money.
     
    It is generally a good idea not to comment on things you know nothing about to avoid embarrassment. It is not generally accepted, with the possible exception of this blog. Einstein, being a Jew, has taken many bad raps from those who wish to denigrate all Jews. There is no evidence that Einstein's first wife contributed anything to Albert's theories. Einstein was in the process of divorcing Mileva, so he offered his wife any prize money he received from an expected upcoming Nobel Prize. This was to support Einstein's two children.

    Today, Mileva Marić, is considered equal to Tesla or Pupin in her contributions to the advancement of mankind.
     
    Are you a Serbian? Where do you get this bullshit?

    Replies: @RickMcHale

    , @Che Guava
    @Anon

    I suspect that it is true to some extent, she may have been responsible for the neat and readable notation, perhaps more.

    However, neither paper on relativity had any original ideas, both were syntheses of earlier work, Maric may have been responsible for that (my opinion, at least an important, likely prime role, but written evidence for that no longer exists, if it ever did).

    I made a detailed edit on the sources of Einstein's plagiarism for both special and general relativity, mentioning the likely role of his wife, on English Wikipedia.

    The reaction was furious, I did nothing but my initial edit, but checked at times to see what was happening. It was very funny and demonstrated that many people understand that Einstein is, to a large extent, a fraudulent mythos.

    After three days of people fighting over the page, the Wikipedia Jews closed editing of the page. It had been fun to watch,

    This is even more off-topic, but this thread would attract those interested in physics, irritating tone at times, but very educational (many points I never knew before) and entertaining, and is about a stage of transition. Recommended reading.
    https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-great-ptolemaic-smackdown.html?m=1

    Replies: @Anon

    , @anon
    @Anon

    If Einstein was a fraud, then so were the likes of Bohr, Godel, Oppenheimer, Pauli, (long list omitted ....) who all interacted with him and had huge respect for him. You can't fake your way with every single one of these big brains unless you also have a theory how these were all fakers just like good old Albert.

  • Assuming what this author says about Millikan’s very casual relationship with eugenics is correct, I’m inclined to agree it’s a tempest in a teapot. Caltech is simply trying to appear virtuous at the expense of a long-dead scientist.

    While making a few searches on the situation, I did run into an issue I personally find to be more serious.

    Lawsuit says Caltech Provost and others ignored Israeli spying and then retaliated against whistleblower
    https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/sp-caltech.html

    Spying by the Apartheid state has virtually no consequences in the US, and since Caltech has many government contracts by way of its JPL division, they’d have found it prudent to ignore spies of the shithole state. After all, two parts of American Government are controlled by God’s Favorite Thieves and Murderers – they’re content to allow the Vatican to retain control of the Supreme Court.

    But kicking around dead scientists isn’t at all risky.

    • Thanks: Charles
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Zachary Smith

    "...– they’re content to allow the Vatican to retain control of the Supreme Court."

    So are we his second favorite thieves and murderers?

  • The photo the article leads with is a pasteup. The heads are cut out of other photos and pasted on. Also, the guy on the left is doing the Hidden Hand. I am not exactly sure what that all means, but I doubt it’s good.

    • LOL: Realist
    • Replies: @Thomas Hales
    @Redbone

    In the original photo there are three other men standing behind Michelson, Einstein, and Millikan.

    https://www.bridgemanimages.com/en-US/unknown-photographer/albert-abraham-michelson-albert-einstein-robert-andrews-millikan-walter-sydney-adams-walther-mayer/photograph/asset/4147615

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @Redbone

    Who do you think you are, Miles Mathis? Einstein's head is disproportionate because of all his big brains!

  • It sounds like Millikan was a great scientist and university founder. The fact that his name was removed from his university’s library shows how crazy the climate was in spring/summer 2020 because of the anti-police activists.

    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years. The female share of its undergraduate population has grown a lot recently, almost to parity with men:

    https://www.unz.com/enrollments/?r&ID=110404&Institution=California+Institute+of+Technology

    Although if their public statements have been true regarding their approach to admissions (until last month), Caltech hasn’t been giving women any boost in undergraduate admissions. It could be that male academic performance has gotten worse recently and so more women are being admitted.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Chebyshev

    As is the case with most universities...Caltech has screwed the pooch.

    , @Hulkamania
    @Chebyshev


    Caltech might be one of the few colleges that has practiced affirmative action for women in recent years.
     
    What? They all do. Affirmative action started with females and females have historically benefitted most from the practice.

    Replies: @Chebyshev

    , @Poupon Marx
    @Chebyshev

    I have advised those on here with college age children to consider sending their worthies to a Russian university. It is obvious that Russia has a vast intellectual class and has had. Simply, Russian cultural values are high values and stress excellence, as they have always done.

    Higher learning centers of the West are all degraded and demoted in mission and commission.
    No contemporary, modern, Post Modern excrement has been allowed to come close.


    Moscow State University- M. V. Lomonosov Moscow State University is a public research university in Moscow, Russia. The university includes 15 research institutes, 43 faculties, more than 300 departments, and six branches. Alumni of the university include past leaders of the Soviet Union and other governments. Tuition- $381.00 per year

    Programs taught in English- https://international.msu.ru/programs-english
     

    HSE University (Russian: «Высшая школа экономики», ВШЭ), officially the National Research University Higher School of Economics (Russian: Национальный исследовательский университет «Высшая школа экономики») is a public research university founded in 1992 and headquartered in Moscow, Russia. Along with its main campus located in the capital, the university maintains three other regional campuses in Nizhny Novgorod, Perm and Saint Petersburg.[8] There is also the Lyceum at the National Research University Higher School of Economics in Moscow.

    Widely regarded among the most prestigious universities in Russia and the CIS,[9][10] it acquired the status of "national research university" in 2009. HSE was the first educational institution in Russia to successfully introduce Bachelor's and Master's degrees, having also taken part in the development and implementation of the Unified State Exam to modernize education and health care systems of Russia.

    Starting from 2013, HSE University has also participated in the Project 5-100 (the project was initiated by the Ministry of Education and Science to promote at least five Russian universities to the top 100 universities according to Times Higher Education World University Rankings, QS World University Rankings, and Academic Ranking of World Universities[11]). In 2022 it was ranked #568 in Best Global Universities by U.S. News & World Report, and #881 by Center for World University Rankings, and in 2020 it was ranked in the #801-900 group in the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU), also known as the Shanghai Ranking.[12][13][14]

    HSE offers education at all levels – from a lyceum for school students to post-graduate and MBA programmes. Students can pursue training in a number of fields, including the social sciences, economics, humanities, law, engineering, computer science, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and biotechnology, as well as in creative disciplines. HSE is the only university in Russia that is ranked in top 100 of the Times Higher Education Young University Rankings.[15] Furthermore, university representatives are part of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation and the Expert Council under the Government of Russia.

    In 1997, HSE University and the London School of Economics (LSE) signed the agreement on establishing The International College of Economics and Finance (ICEF), that was later renamed to "International Institute of Economics and Finance". According to the regulations of the University of London, starting from the second year, students take classes in English. Upon the successful completion of requirements, they receive a double diploma issued by the University of London and the Higher School of Economics.

     

    Major Russian universities are highly internationalized. Russia is and will continue to pivot EAST, "where the action is". Where the various diseases caused by the (((Plague Givers))) have no influence. For someone looking for a future, I would tell you The West Has Been De-Blessed. Real power and quality of life will be centered in the East and the Global South. Tuition- ~ $5,000.00 a year

    Replies: @Adûnâi

  • I just finished reading the full prepint in question, which I’d highly recommend.

    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech “witch-finding committee” is utterly appalling.

    Nobel Laureate Robert Millikan was one of our greatest scientists and he served as the founding father of Caltech, but during the height of the Black Lives Matter movement, he was purged from all of his honors.

    One of the main charges against him had been his alleged support for Japanese internment during World War II. But in actuality, he courageously served as Vice President of the California organization formed to support Japanese-American civil rights.

    Another top accusation against him was his support for Eugenics, which seems to have been quite minor and little different from that expressed by the overwhelming majority of educated individuals in his era. Ironically enough, the supposedly “anti-Eugenics” academics cited by the purging mob actually included leading supporters of Eugenics, most notably Hermann Muller. Here’s a 2017 comment of mine that briefly touched on him:

    Ironically enough, one of the most prominent (half-)Jewish geneticists of that era was Nobel Laureate Hermann Muller, a hard-core Communist and also apparently a fanatic Eugenicist.

    He emigrated to the USSR during the 1930s and supposedly tried to persuade Stalin to make Eugenics a central pillar of their drive to create “a New Soviet Man,” but Old Joe didn’t like his ideas, and he eventually needed to flee the country to avoid the Gulag.

    Presumably, if things had gone a little differently, every good leftist, S.J. Gould certainly included, would have hailed Eugenics as core principle of Scientific Socialism, and to suggest otherwise would bring down the wrath of the harder-core SJWs, or in earlier times, perhaps nine grams to the back of the neck.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/damnatio-memoriae-in-silicon-valley-who-is-next/#comment-1804790

    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.

    • Agree: Realist, Bardon Kaldian
    • Thanks: JR Foley, JR Foley, Charles
    • Replies: @James J. O'Meara
    @Ron Unz


    What I find so utterly shocking is less the ideological extremism than the total and utter ignorant incompetence of the activist committee that persuaded Caltech to purge its own George Washington.
     
    Ideological extremism makes competence irrelevant (and personally dangerous: "he is unreliable" = he may reach the wrong conclusion)

    In line with the whole idea of canceling, and of affirmative action: if the result is politically correct, the methods don't matter. We already know the answer, right?

    In a way, it makes sense, or at least it's consistent (ironically enough). Ideally, the Counsel of Science will simply list all the "facts," and you just have to agree. No need for wasteful, time consuming, HARD things like constructing valid arguments or conducting experiments. Progress!

    Come to think about it, that's how theology works. The difference btw historians and "biblical scholars", even at the same institution, is that the latter already know the answers (depending on their denomination) and their job is to shake, prune and jam together the pieces to fit.

    Replies: @G. Poulin

    , @eah
    @Ron Unz


    The sheer ignorance and incompetence of the Caltech “witch-finding committee” is utterly appalling.
     
    Yet elsewhere you seem reluctant to concede that a similar kind of 'ideological extremism' may result in affirmative action, i.e. explicit racial preferences, in admissions at Caltech, specifically that it may be behind the rise in the number of Hispanics being admitted to Caltech.

    But thanks for publishing this article; otherwise I may not have seen it -- and special thanks to the author, Thomas Hales, for writing it, and helping to expose the foul ex post facto political condemnation of Millikan.

    I have long regarded the early 20th century as a remarkable and very interesting period of achievement in the physical sciences, and have a whole collection of books about that era, including biographies of the major figures -- Mr Hales was right to point out that Einstein received the Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, one of his annus mirabilis papers that came to be regarded as a cornerstone of quantum physics, rather than for his paper on special relativity, for which he is much better known.

    , @Poupon Marx
    @Ron Unz

    In the most recent light of what happened to Trump, confiscation of his property, revocation of his business licenses, with no trial, hearing, or even a shred of legal and precedent law, I am not surprised at the total breakdown of law and order in the USSA.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-rages-deranged-ny-judges-corporate-death-penalty-decision

    Lately many chain stores in the place on the map called The JUSA, announced the closings of several hundreds of stores nationwide. The annual cost of theft from retailers is about $116 billion dollars.. This cost, of course is passed on to the consumer.

    There is an entity behind all of these assaults on order, civilization, and law. A very small group, out of sight, using proxies and fronts, are determined to wreck all civilizations and make the World into one big Weimer Republic, at its worst and lowest erstwhile point. It's various agents are spread to the wind as locust larvae, that now swarm the world, devouring all that is sustaining and necessary for existence.

    A question answers the question: Who OWNS the World? Find the answer for yourself and yours.

    Replies: @Che Guava

    , @newrouter
    @Ron Unz

    "In California, eugenic practice took the form of a large sterilization program."

    Isn't the "transgender" movement a "form of a large sterilization program"?

  • The consequences of Cal Tech’s efforts to diversify will be the destruction of just about everything.

    These dipshits who are admitted won’t be good engineers for anything; everything will just fall apart.

  • @dearieme
    For many years it was widely argued that Millikan had fudged the data from his oil-drop experiment. He had, allegedly, used the measurements he liked and discarded the ones he didn't like, on no better grounds than his desire to get a particular answer.

    Does anyone here know where the debate on that proposition has got to?

    Replies: @Thomas Hales

    The Caltech physicist David Goodstein has made a thorough analysis of Millikan’s original lab notebooks. He discusses in detail the accusations of scientific fraud. According to Goodstein, “Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result.” Goodstein’s conclusion is that “he certainly did not commit scientific fraud in his seminal work on the charge of the electron.”

    A false statement does appear in Millikan’s paper about the selection of drops. According to Goodstein,

    I don’t think that any scientist, having studied Millikan’s techniques and procedures for conducting this most demanding and difficult experiment, would fault him in any way for picking out what he considered to be his most dependable measurements in order to arrive at the most accurate possible result. In the 1913 paper, he cites his result with an uncertainty of 0.2 percent, some 15 times better than the best previous measurement (which reported an error of 3 percent). Furthermore, the value of the charge of the electron today agrees with Millikan’s result within his cited uncertainty of 0.2 percent. The experiment was nothing less than a masterpiece, and the 1913 paper reporting it is a classic of scientific exposition. Nevertheless, it contains the phrase “this is not a selected group of drops, but represents all the drops experimented upon during 60 consecutive days,” which is manifestly untrue. The question is, why did Millikan mar his masterpiece with a statement that clearly is not true?

    Goodstein, David L. “In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan.” Engineering and Science 63.4 (2000): 30-38.

    • Replies: @Gizmo880
    @Thomas Hales

    As a holder of a Masters Degree in Physics I very much enjoyed this article and thank the author. It does appear that there is a little more to the oil-drop controversy than noted. From the Wikipedia article on Millikan...

    David Goodstein argues that Millikan's statement, that all drops observed over a 60 day period were used in the paper, was clarified in a subsequent sentence which specified all "drops upon which complete series of observations were made". Goodstein attests that this is indeed the case and notes that five pages of tables separate the two sentences.

    For anyone interested, here is a link to the David L. Goodstein article "In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan" that is referenced by the author in Comment 2 above.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20100625194742/http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/Millikan%20Feature.pdf

    , @dearieme
    @Thomas Hales

    What an unpersuasive defence. "Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result."

    What does he mean by "bias"? What on earth is "the overall result"? Is Goldstein saying that the results Millikan inferred from his selected drops agreed with each other? That's essentially a tautology.

    What does Goldstein mean by "selective"? The question is surely whether Millikan had sufficient reason to reject the unwelcome results.


    I'm not surprised that some people think there's an odour of stinking fish about this business. Is there also an odour about a Caltech employee defending Millikan? Could be.

  • For many years it was widely argued that Millikan had fudged the data from his oil-drop experiment. He had, allegedly, used the measurements he liked and discarded the ones he didn’t like, on no better grounds than his desire to get a particular answer.

    Does anyone here know where the debate on that proposition has got to?

    • Replies: @Thomas Hales
    @dearieme

    The Caltech physicist David Goodstein has made a thorough analysis of Millikan's original lab notebooks. He discusses in detail the accusations of scientific fraud. According to Goodstein, "Millikan was clearly being selective, but his choice of drops did not bias the overall result." Goodstein's conclusion is that "he certainly did not commit scientific fraud in his seminal work on the charge of the electron."

    A false statement does appear in Millikan's paper about the selection of drops. According to Goodstein,


    I don’t think that any scientist, having studied Millikan’s techniques and procedures for conducting this most demanding and difficult experiment, would fault him in any way for picking out what he considered to be his most dependable measurements in order to arrive at the most accurate possible result. In the 1913 paper, he cites his result with an uncertainty of 0.2 percent, some 15 times better than the best previous measurement (which reported an error of 3 percent). Furthermore, the value of the charge of the electron today agrees with Millikan’s result within his cited uncertainty of 0.2 percent. The experiment was nothing less than a masterpiece, and the 1913 paper reporting it is a classic of scientific exposition. Nevertheless, it contains the phrase “this is not a selected group of drops, but represents all the drops experimented upon during 60 consecutive days,” which is manifestly untrue. The question is, why did Millikan mar his masterpiece with a statement that clearly is not true?

     

    Goodstein, David L. "In defense of Robert Andrews Millikan." Engineering and Science 63.4 (2000): 30-38.

    Replies: @Gizmo880, @dearieme