Temporary Disabled. :) please Go back ♟ Varnent www.fgks.org » Address: [go: up one dir, main page] Include Form Remove Scripts Accept Cookies Show Images Show Referer Rotate13 Base64 Strip Meta Strip Title Session Cookies Page MenuHomePhabricatorSearchConfigure Global SearchLog InProfileBadgesTasksCommitsManage People Varnent Varnent (Gregory Varnum)Wikimedia Foundation staff: Senior Strategist, CommunicationsProjects (18)View AllClose MilestoneCreate MilestoneDelete / Redirect MilestoneDiff-blog ComponentMediaWiki-extensions-SecurePoll ComponentCalendarTodayClear sailing ahead.TomorrowClear sailing ahead.ThursdayClear sailing ahead.User DetailsUser Since Feb 4 2015, 5:17 AM (493 w, 6 d) Availability Available IRC Nick varnent LDAP User Varnent MediaWiki User Varnent [ Global Accounts ] As of December 2015, I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation's Communications Department, currently in the role of Senior Strategist, Communications. I previously worked as a Wikimedia Foundation contractor on the Access Policy project as well as other strategy related positions within the Communications department. My Wikimedia Foundation account is [[User:GVarnum-WMF]] and my volunteer account is [[User:Varnent]].Recent ActivityView AllMon, Jul 15Varnent created T370097: Allow Bureaucrats on Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org) to be able to remove Sysop/Admin rights.Mon, Jul 15, 7:04 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)May 22 2024Varnent updated the task description for T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages.May 22 2024, 5:42 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesMay 10 2024Varnent added a comment to T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system.That worked - thank you! :)May 10 2024, 3:30 PM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateMay 9 2024Pcoombe awarded T364348: Ability to set language when viewing a portal (ie. wikipedia.org) page a Like token.May 9 2024, 9:59 AM · I18n, Wikimedia-PortalsVarnent updated subscribers of T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system.Thank you, @Nikerabbit, for quick response. Greatly appreciated! :)May 9 2024, 6:07 AM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent renamed T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system from Internal error when trying to mark a page on Governance Wiki for translation to Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system.May 9 2024, 6:03 AM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent added a comment to T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system.Same issue on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF/sandbox3May 9 2024, 6:01 AM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent triaged T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system as Unbreak Now! priority.May 9 2024, 5:58 AM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent created T364522: Internal error when trying to mark a page for translation not yet in translation system.May 9 2024, 5:58 AM · Regression, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), Wikimedia-production-error, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateMay 6 2024Varnent added a project to T364349: Ability to make wiki table headers sticky: Web-Team-Backlog.May 6 2024, 9:26 PM · Web-Team-Backlog, Editing-Team-Request, MediaWiki-User-Interface (Tables)Varnent updated the task description for T364349: Ability to make wiki table headers sticky.May 6 2024, 9:26 PM · Web-Team-Backlog, Editing-Team-Request, MediaWiki-User-Interface (Tables)Varnent created T364349: Ability to make wiki table headers sticky.May 6 2024, 9:25 PM · Web-Team-Backlog, Editing-Team-Request, MediaWiki-User-Interface (Tables)Varnent created T364348: Ability to set language when viewing a portal (ie. wikipedia.org) page.May 6 2024, 9:19 PM · I18n, Wikimedia-PortalsVarnent added a comment to T357451: Create project tag for Wikimedia Foundation Memory Bank project.@Aklapper - I am very open to your input/wisdom on this. But I see your point, and it is probably better to just make it a project on par with what we have done for org website and other Comms projects.May 6 2024, 9:11 PM · WMF-Communications, Project-AdminsApr 10 2024Varnent updated the task description for T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages.Apr 10 2024, 6:44 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesApr 4 2024Varnent updated the task description for T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages.Apr 4 2024, 8:28 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages.Apr 4 2024, 8:28 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesApr 3 2024Varnent closed T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages as Resolved.Now deployed to production - closing ticket.Apr 3 2024, 8:50 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesApr 2 2024Varnent added a comment to T347156: Transfer history and revision information when moving translatable bundles between wikis. In T347156#9682315, @Tacsipacsi wrote: If I wanted to see who are the authors of a translation, I’d probably press the History tab on the translation itself, not the history links of each and every translation unit – and thus see FuzzyBot as the only author. If I wasn’t a translator, I’d probably not even know about the per-translation unit histories. So I hope translation pages themselves can also have histories migrated, not only units. Apr 2 2024, 11:53 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent added a comment to T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories. In T361632#9682431, @Pppery wrote: I don't particularly care whether Meta does it. Just wanted to point out that it wasn't a universal trend. Apr 2 2024, 10:17 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent added a comment to T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories. In T361632#9682219, @Tacsipacsi wrote: In T361632#9682154, @Varnent wrote: I have not checked all other uses of the extension I’ve checked them: WikiTranslatable categories/Translations categories meta.wikimedia.org11131007 foundation.wikimedia.org204126 outreach.wikimedia.org1513 wikimania.wikimedia.org102 incubator.wikimedia.org42 commons.wikimedia.org92 (all other wikis have zero /Translations categories) So while it’s almost omnipresent on Meta and used a lot on Governance Wiki, other wikis that have such categories have too few translatable categories to really have established practices (including Commons: over 2000 translatable pages, but only 9 of them are categories!). MediaWiki.org, another wiki with many (almost 1500) translatable categories, has zero /Translations ones. Apr 2 2024, 9:18 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent added a comment to T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories.tldr: Public wikis that use this setup: Foundation GovWiki, Meta-Wiki, Incubator Wiki, Outreach WikiApr 2 2024, 9:16 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent added a comment to T361629: Ability to use <languages> tag as replacement for {{languages}} template on non-Translate extension pages. In T361629#9682150, @Tacsipacsi wrote: Lingering questions: Is this doable? Not necessarily, and definitely not easily: the problem is purging the parser cache. Currently, if any translation page is edited/created (through a translation unit), moved or deleted, the parser cache of all translations belonging to the same translatable page is invalidated. This is good as long as any page can only link to its “sibling pages” using <languages/>, but it would be insufficient with your requested scope widening. Apr 2 2024, 8:56 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent added a comment to T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories. In T361632#9682124, @Pppery wrote: "On wikis with Translate extension installed, a "best practice" of adding /Translations category" is not true. Only Meta AFAIK does this. MediaWiki.org doesn't use a /Translations category at all, and I don't think one is needed. Apr 2 2024, 8:41 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent updated the task description for T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories.Apr 2 2024, 8:33 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent added a comment to T347156: Transfer history and revision information when moving translatable bundles between wikis. In T347156#9682032, @Pols12 wrote: (follow-up of T354473) Translation unit is imported from Meta-Wiki, however, translation page is recreated by FuzzyBot, making author credits hardly discoverable. As a workaround, I think the translation pages could be actually moved if the page would have been removed from Translate system before the move. We could then re-mark the page for translation. Apr 2 2024, 7:24 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent triaged T361634: Clear contents ability in addition to delete box ability in Special:PageMigration as Low priority.Apr 2 2024, 6:06 PM · MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent created T361634: Clear contents ability in addition to delete box ability in Special:PageMigration.Apr 2 2024, 6:06 PM · MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.4; 2024-05-07), Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Language-Team (Language-2024-April-June), MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent triaged T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories as Medium priority.Apr 2 2024, 5:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent updated the task description for T361629: Ability to use <languages> tag as replacement for {{languages}} template on non-Translate extension pages.Apr 2 2024, 5:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent triaged T361629: Ability to use <languages> tag as replacement for {{languages}} template on non-Translate extension pages as Medium priority.Apr 2 2024, 5:31 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent created T361632: Automatic build out and support of /Translations category within translated categories.Apr 2 2024, 5:24 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, MediaWiki-CategoriesVarnent created T361629: Ability to use <languages> tag as replacement for {{languages}} template on non-Translate extension pages.Apr 2 2024, 5:09 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateApr 1 2024Varnent closed T354473: Transfer translations of resolutions from Meta-Wiki to Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org) as Resolved. In T354473#9676291, @abi_ wrote: @Varnent, I've migrated all the pages to Foundation wiki. I did some quick verification, and I think it looks OK. Apr 1 2024, 3:28 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.24; 2024-03-26), Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March), Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Mar 30 2024Varnent added a comment to T354473: Transfer translations of resolutions from Meta-Wiki to Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org). In T354473#9672578, @abi_ wrote: In T354473#9670723, @Varnent wrote: That sounds great! Thank you - and please let me know if you need anything along the way. I greatly appreciate your efforts on this lift, and empathize with how heavy this lift can actually be. You are welcome :-) I think we are good for now. I'll let you know if we need anything else. I exported and imported some more pages, let me know if they look OK, and I'll do the rest early next week. Thanks! Mar 30 2024, 6:49 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.24; 2024-03-26), Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March), Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Mar 29 2024Varnent added a comment to T143396: Display translated page title in search results. In T143396#9661661, @Kghbln wrote: See also the Search Suggestion using DisplayTitle topic Here it is about the ability to search for Page ID123654789 with the display title John Doe. Yeah, this will indeed be nice to have. Mar 29 2024, 5:50 AM · Patch-Needs-Improvement, Discovery-Search, MediaWiki-Search, Discovery-ARCHIVED, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent added a comment to T313748: Allow translatable templates to be shown in the user interface language.There are some templates setup on GovWiki and Meta-Wiki that work around this - but this would be a handy feature to have as that method can sometimes be prone to errors. Example templates: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:MovedToFoundationGovWiki https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Contribute https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Babel_header https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Archived Mar 29 2024, 5:46 AM · MediaWiki-Templates, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent awarded T313748: Allow translatable templates to be shown in the user interface language a Love token.Mar 29 2024, 5:46 AM · MediaWiki-Templates, MediaWiki-extensions-TranslateVarnent placed T360199: New Wikimedia wiki interwiki entry for Diff movement blog up for grabs.This has been added to the interwiki map if @Reedy or someone else is able to run the appropriate script - it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!Mar 29 2024, 2:10 AM · Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia-Interwiki-links, Diff-blogMar 28 2024Varnent added a comment to T354473: Transfer translations of resolutions from Meta-Wiki to Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org). In T354473#9669785, @abi_ wrote: Glad to hear that. I'll do some more tomorrow and we can recheck. If everything looks good, I can complete the rest early next week. Mar 28 2024, 6:30 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.24; 2024-03-26), Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March), Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Varnent added a comment to T354473: Transfer translations of resolutions from Meta-Wiki to Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org). In T354473#9669329, @abi_ wrote: @Varnent I exported https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget and imported it to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:2008-09_Budget; I think everything looks OK. Can you do a sanity check? Some notes regarding the export and imports: Export: mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/exportTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=metawiki --translatable-bundle "WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget" --filename /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --include-talk-pages --include-subpages Import: mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/importTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=foundationwiki /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --user "GVarnum-WMF" --interwiki-prefix "metawiki" --comment "See phab:T354473" --target-name "Resolution:2008-09_Budget" --override Mar 28 2024, 3:07 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.24; 2024-03-26), Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March), Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Mar 26 2024Varnent changed the status of T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages from Open to Stalled.Mar 26 2024, 9:53 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesVarnent created T361071: DRAFT: Additional strings as system messages.Mar 26 2024, 9:52 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization, WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated subscribers of T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Thank you @Jdrewniak and @Tacsipacsi for help with Portals patch! :)Mar 26 2024, 1:58 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesMar 21 2024Varnent added a comment to T354473: Transfer translations of resolutions from Meta-Wiki to Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org).@abi_ Thank you again for all of your work on this!Mar 21 2024, 3:50 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.24; 2024-03-26), Localization Infrastructure FY2023-24, Unplanned-Sprint-Work, Language-Team (Language-2024-January-March), Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Mar 20 2024Varnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 7:51 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent renamed T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages from Additional strings for WikimediaMessages to Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 7:46 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 7:38 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent renamed T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages from DRAFT: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages to Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 7:30 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 6:58 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 6:58 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 20 2024, 6:56 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent added a comment to T360497: Remove "<a href" from licensing messages in WikimediaMessages.I am not familiar with the origin story - and my hunch is the capabilities of the system messages has evolved over the years. My experience with system messages is far less technical than others and more admin-based experience. With that experience in mind, I have certainly seen (as recently as today) a mix usage of interwiki and external link setups used pretty interchangeably across (I think) each of these messages. I would look to engineers for more official technical answer, but observationally it appears that either route is today supported in system messages such than updates would be useful. You can see a smattering of how local wikis have modified these messages (and used a mix of link types) with Global Search, example: Wikimedia-copyright.Mar 20 2024, 6:49 PM · Wikimania-Hackathon-2024, LPL Technical Support, WikimediaMessages, I18n, affects-translatewiki.netMar 19 2024Varnent added a comment to T357451: Create project tag for Wikimedia Foundation Memory Bank project. In T357451#9636354, @Aklapper wrote: Hi, will this Phabricator project be the canonical place where work tasks are planned, managed, tracked by the folks working on this? Mar 19 2024, 10:20 AM · WMF-Communications, Project-AdminsVarnent updated subscribers of T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages. In T359980#9635764, @Pppery wrote: Re "Help translate", see also T93782 Mar 19 2024, 10:14 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 19 2024, 10:12 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesMar 18 2024Varnent updated subscribers of T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages. In T359980#9635764, @Pppery wrote: Re "Help translate", see also T93782 Mar 18 2024, 10:16 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 18 2024, 10:15 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesMar 15 2024Varnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 15 2024, 8:53 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 15 2024, 8:43 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 15 2024, 5:00 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 15 2024, 4:45 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent claimed T360199: New Wikimedia wiki interwiki entry for Diff movement blog.Mar 15 2024, 4:39 PM · Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia-Interwiki-links, Diff-blogVarnent added a comment to T360199: New Wikimedia wiki interwiki entry for Diff movement blog.Related request for feedback for addition on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Interwiki_map#Additional_Diff_interwikiMar 15 2024, 4:09 PM · Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia-Interwiki-links, Diff-blogCKoerner_WMF awarded T360199: New Wikimedia wiki interwiki entry for Diff movement blog a Like token.Mar 15 2024, 3:01 PM · Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia-Interwiki-links, Diff-blogVarnent created T360199: New Wikimedia wiki interwiki entry for Diff movement blog.Mar 15 2024, 3:00 PM · Wikimedia-maintenance-script-run, Wikimedia-Interwiki-links, Diff-blogVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 15 2024, 2:26 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent placed T356013: wrong url redirection for wikimediafoundation.org api up for grabs.@Xqt - did https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/994748 resolve the issue?Mar 15 2024, 1:01 AM · Patch-For-Review, wikimediafoundation.org, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org)Varnent closed T331680: Update footer links to direct to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki as Resolved.With conclusion of T359125, I am closing this ticket (finally). Woot! Thanks all for your help.Mar 15 2024, 12:50 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.3; 2023-10-31), MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.13; 2023-06-13), Patch-For-Review, serviceops, MediaWiki-extensions-General, WMF-General-or-Unknown, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent closed T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki, a subtask of T331680: Update footer links to direct to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki, as Resolved.Mar 15 2024, 12:50 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.3; 2023-10-31), MW-1.41-notes (1.41.0-wmf.13; 2023-06-13), Patch-For-Review, serviceops, MediaWiki-extensions-General, WMF-General-or-Unknown, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent closed T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki as Resolved.All set! Closing this ticket.Mar 15 2024, 12:50 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 15 2024, 12:49 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationMar 12 2024Varnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 12 2024, 10:04 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 12 2024, 10:04 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent changed the status of T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages from Open to Stalled.Mar 12 2024, 9:58 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent created T359980: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages and updates to project taglines for Portals and WikimediaMessages.Mar 12 2024, 7:40 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.25; 2024-04-02), Wikimedia-Portals, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesMar 9 2024Varnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 9 2024, 11:33 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 9 2024, 11:28 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent added a comment to T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Some changes related to T359282 and accidentally marked just to this ticket.Mar 9 2024, 11:18 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationMar 8 2024Varnent closed T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages, a subtask of T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki, as Resolved.Mar 8 2024, 8:50 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent closed T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages as Resolved.Thank you @Mooeypoo!Mar 8 2024, 8:50 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 8 2024, 8:09 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 8 2024, 7:14 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 6:36 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent added a parent task for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages: T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 6:19 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent added a subtask for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki: T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 8 2024, 6:19 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent raised the priority of T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages from Medium to High.Mar 8 2024, 6:19 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent renamed T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages from DRAFT: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages to Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 8 2024, 6:18 PM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 6:07 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 5:57 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 5:52 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 4:55 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 4:39 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 4:38 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent added a comment to T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.For some reason, there are a few variations of MediaWiki:Privacypage with incorrect default system messages. Will add to extension to override globally - then remove the local overrides: https://pt.wikivoyage.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-terms-url https://pt.wikinews.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-terms-url Mar 8 2024, 4:36 PM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent updated the task description for T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Mar 8 2024, 12:22 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationVarnent added a comment to T359125: Update modified footer system messages to proper locations on Foundation Governance Wiki.Additional system messages to check: Abusefilter-warning-link-spam Centralnotice-target Disabled Donate interface-otherways-alt Edittools Foreign-structured-upload-form-label-own-work-message-shared Fundraising notice ImageAnnotatorCopyright Recentchangestext Sidebar Sitesupport-url Sitesupportpage Summary Uploadtext Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary Mar 8 2024, 12:06 AM · MW-1.42-notes (1.42.0-wmf.22; 2024-03-12), Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), MediaWiki-InternationalizationMar 7 2024Varnent updated the task description for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 7 2024, 5:31 AM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 7 2024, 4:42 AM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessagesVarnent updated the task description for T359282: Additional strings for WikimediaMessages.Mar 7 2024, 4:05 AM · Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki (foundation.wikimedia.org), WikimediaMessages
As of December 2015, I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation's Communications Department, currently in the role of Senior Strategist, Communications.
I previously worked as a Wikimedia Foundation contractor on the Access Policy project as well as other strategy related positions within the Communications department.
My Wikimedia Foundation account is [[User:GVarnum-WMF]] and my volunteer account is [[User:Varnent]].
That worked - thank you! :)
Thank you, @Nikerabbit, for quick response. Greatly appreciated! :)
Same issue on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:GVarnum-WMF/sandbox3
@Aklapper - I am very open to your input/wisdom on this. But I see your point, and it is probably better to just make it a project on par with what we have done for org website and other Comms projects.
Now deployed to production - closing ticket.
In T347156#9682315, @Tacsipacsi wrote: If I wanted to see who are the authors of a translation, I’d probably press the History tab on the translation itself, not the history links of each and every translation unit – and thus see FuzzyBot as the only author. If I wasn’t a translator, I’d probably not even know about the per-translation unit histories. So I hope translation pages themselves can also have histories migrated, not only units.
If I wanted to see who are the authors of a translation, I’d probably press the History tab on the translation itself, not the history links of each and every translation unit – and thus see FuzzyBot as the only author. If I wasn’t a translator, I’d probably not even know about the per-translation unit histories. So I hope translation pages themselves can also have histories migrated, not only units.
In T361632#9682431, @Pppery wrote: I don't particularly care whether Meta does it. Just wanted to point out that it wasn't a universal trend.
I don't particularly care whether Meta does it. Just wanted to point out that it wasn't a universal trend.
In T361632#9682219, @Tacsipacsi wrote: In T361632#9682154, @Varnent wrote: I have not checked all other uses of the extension I’ve checked them: WikiTranslatable categories/Translations categories meta.wikimedia.org11131007 foundation.wikimedia.org204126 outreach.wikimedia.org1513 wikimania.wikimedia.org102 incubator.wikimedia.org42 commons.wikimedia.org92 (all other wikis have zero /Translations categories) So while it’s almost omnipresent on Meta and used a lot on Governance Wiki, other wikis that have such categories have too few translatable categories to really have established practices (including Commons: over 2000 translatable pages, but only 9 of them are categories!). MediaWiki.org, another wiki with many (almost 1500) translatable categories, has zero /Translations ones.
In T361632#9682154, @Varnent wrote: I have not checked all other uses of the extension
I have not checked all other uses of the extension
I’ve checked them:
(all other wikis have zero /Translations categories)
So while it’s almost omnipresent on Meta and used a lot on Governance Wiki, other wikis that have such categories have too few translatable categories to really have established practices (including Commons: over 2000 translatable pages, but only 9 of them are categories!). MediaWiki.org, another wiki with many (almost 1500) translatable categories, has zero /Translations ones.
tldr: Public wikis that use this setup: Foundation GovWiki, Meta-Wiki, Incubator Wiki, Outreach Wiki
In T361629#9682150, @Tacsipacsi wrote: Lingering questions: Is this doable? Not necessarily, and definitely not easily: the problem is purging the parser cache. Currently, if any translation page is edited/created (through a translation unit), moved or deleted, the parser cache of all translations belonging to the same translatable page is invalidated. This is good as long as any page can only link to its “sibling pages” using <languages/>, but it would be insufficient with your requested scope widening.
Lingering questions: Is this doable?
Not necessarily, and definitely not easily: the problem is purging the parser cache. Currently, if any translation page is edited/created (through a translation unit), moved or deleted, the parser cache of all translations belonging to the same translatable page is invalidated. This is good as long as any page can only link to its “sibling pages” using <languages/>, but it would be insufficient with your requested scope widening.
In T361632#9682124, @Pppery wrote: "On wikis with Translate extension installed, a "best practice" of adding /Translations category" is not true. Only Meta AFAIK does this. MediaWiki.org doesn't use a /Translations category at all, and I don't think one is needed.
"On wikis with Translate extension installed, a "best practice" of adding /Translations category" is not true. Only Meta AFAIK does this. MediaWiki.org doesn't use a /Translations category at all, and I don't think one is needed.
In T347156#9682032, @Pols12 wrote: (follow-up of T354473) Translation unit is imported from Meta-Wiki, however, translation page is recreated by FuzzyBot, making author credits hardly discoverable. As a workaround, I think the translation pages could be actually moved if the page would have been removed from Translate system before the move. We could then re-mark the page for translation.
(follow-up of T354473) Translation unit is imported from Meta-Wiki, however, translation page is recreated by FuzzyBot, making author credits hardly discoverable.
As a workaround, I think the translation pages could be actually moved if the page would have been removed from Translate system before the move. We could then re-mark the page for translation.
In T354473#9676291, @abi_ wrote: @Varnent, I've migrated all the pages to Foundation wiki. I did some quick verification, and I think it looks OK.
@Varnent, I've migrated all the pages to Foundation wiki. I did some quick verification, and I think it looks OK.
In T354473#9672578, @abi_ wrote: In T354473#9670723, @Varnent wrote: That sounds great! Thank you - and please let me know if you need anything along the way. I greatly appreciate your efforts on this lift, and empathize with how heavy this lift can actually be. You are welcome :-) I think we are good for now. I'll let you know if we need anything else. I exported and imported some more pages, let me know if they look OK, and I'll do the rest early next week. Thanks!
In T354473#9670723, @Varnent wrote: That sounds great! Thank you - and please let me know if you need anything along the way. I greatly appreciate your efforts on this lift, and empathize with how heavy this lift can actually be.
That sounds great! Thank you - and please let me know if you need anything along the way. I greatly appreciate your efforts on this lift, and empathize with how heavy this lift can actually be.
You are welcome :-) I think we are good for now. I'll let you know if we need anything else.
I exported and imported some more pages, let me know if they look OK, and I'll do the rest early next week. Thanks!
In T143396#9661661, @Kghbln wrote: See also the Search Suggestion using DisplayTitle topic Here it is about the ability to search for Page ID123654789 with the display title John Doe. Yeah, this will indeed be nice to have.
See also the Search Suggestion using DisplayTitle topic Here it is about the ability to search for Page ID123654789 with the display title John Doe. Yeah, this will indeed be nice to have.
There are some templates setup on GovWiki and Meta-Wiki that work around this - but this would be a handy feature to have as that method can sometimes be prone to errors. Example templates:
This has been added to the interwiki map if @Reedy or someone else is able to run the appropriate script - it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
In T354473#9669785, @abi_ wrote: Glad to hear that. I'll do some more tomorrow and we can recheck. If everything looks good, I can complete the rest early next week.
Glad to hear that. I'll do some more tomorrow and we can recheck. If everything looks good, I can complete the rest early next week.
In T354473#9669329, @abi_ wrote: @Varnent I exported https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget and imported it to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:2008-09_Budget; I think everything looks OK. Can you do a sanity check? Some notes regarding the export and imports: Export: mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/exportTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=metawiki --translatable-bundle "WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget" --filename /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --include-talk-pages --include-subpages Import: mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/importTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=foundationwiki /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --user "GVarnum-WMF" --interwiki-prefix "metawiki" --comment "See phab:T354473" --target-name "Resolution:2008-09_Budget" --override
@Varnent I exported https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget and imported it to https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:2008-09_Budget; I think everything looks OK. Can you do a sanity check?
Some notes regarding the export and imports:
Export:
mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/exportTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=metawiki --translatable-bundle "WMF_Resolutions/2008-09_Budget" --filename /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --include-talk-pages --include-subpages
Import:
mwscript extensions/Translate/scripts/importTranslatableBundle.php --wiki=foundationwiki /tmp/WMF_Resolutions_2008-09_Budget.xml --user "GVarnum-WMF" --interwiki-prefix "metawiki" --comment "See phab:T354473" --target-name "Resolution:2008-09_Budget" --override
Thank you @Jdrewniak and @Tacsipacsi for help with Portals patch! :)
@abi_ Thank you again for all of your work on this!
I am not familiar with the origin story - and my hunch is the capabilities of the system messages has evolved over the years. My experience with system messages is far less technical than others and more admin-based experience. With that experience in mind, I have certainly seen (as recently as today) a mix usage of interwiki and external link setups used pretty interchangeably across (I think) each of these messages. I would look to engineers for more official technical answer, but observationally it appears that either route is today supported in system messages such than updates would be useful. You can see a smattering of how local wikis have modified these messages (and used a mix of link types) with Global Search, example: Wikimedia-copyright.
In T357451#9636354, @Aklapper wrote: Hi, will this Phabricator project be the canonical place where work tasks are planned, managed, tracked by the folks working on this?
Hi, will this Phabricator project be the canonical place where work tasks are planned, managed, tracked by the folks working on this?
In T359980#9635764, @Pppery wrote: Re "Help translate", see also T93782
Re "Help translate", see also T93782
Related request for feedback for addition on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Interwiki_map#Additional_Diff_interwiki
@Xqt - did https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/994748 resolve the issue?
With conclusion of T359125, I am closing this ticket (finally). Woot! Thanks all for your help.
All set! Closing this ticket.
Some changes related to T359282 and accidentally marked just to this ticket.
Thank you @Mooeypoo!
For some reason, there are a few variations of MediaWiki:Privacypage with incorrect default system messages. Will add to extension to override globally - then remove the local overrides:
Additional system messages to check: