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I just dropped off the MacMulkin list and got my deposit back. I made this decision after purchasing my 2024 C8Z and still have my companion 2017 C7Z. After driving my C8Z, I'm totally satisfied with it and didn't feel the need to stay on the ERay list any longer. The FPC LT6 is a different animal and unique. Having owned a C8 Stingray I know what the LT2 feels like, and having owned a couple of Tesla's I know what an AWD feels like. So as of right now I don't feel like I'm going to miss out on an AWD LT2/battery hybrid, but if I find that I do I may have to sell one of my Zs, and it probably won't be the C7Z.
Last edited by Shinobi'sZ; 05-10-2024 at 05:30 PM.
Trust me i'm not. However the proof is in this thread though
Proof of what? That the most posts in this thread were by a guy who doesn't own an e-ray, has never has been in an e-ray, and probably has no intent to buy one. Whatever substance you had to contribute, happened 20 posts ago. Here's an idea - Give it a rest. Seriously.
It is unfortunate that the E-Ray is such a ball buster for some guys. These are all great sports cars in their own way but never lose sight of the fact that in the real world a C8 Sting Ray is capable of far more than the vast majority of us Corvette faithful can really use.
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First, I pay no attention to the naysayers. Been wanting an E-Ray before the leaked details were outlined in the November 2019 article. Pretty accurate. The first semiofficial GM leak was an interview with former Corvette race car driver Andy Pilgrim in a February 2019 Interview! The small (1.9 kWh) battery leaked in the November 2019 article and it being more "F1 like" made it more appealing to me. GM kept the wight as low as they could, maintaining within 1% the ME 40/60 weight ratio.
It handles like my prior 2020 C8 Z51 with added torque steer. As Tadge said in the recent Steve Garrett podcast it flies out of corners (advantage of FWD with Torque steer) but after that the Z06 will best it in the straights on a Track. The trio stated at this year's Podcast the same as last year after the BASH: If you are a Track Rat get the Z06; for street driving the E-Ray does it all. The suspension is more like the Z51 not the stiff Z06. I opted for the ZER summer tires as it doesn't snow in NE SC. However, as my 7th Vette from my 1st, a 1988 ,up to now was reluctant to drive them in the rain. No such hesitation with the E-Ray. When I brought it home the ~40 miles from the dealer February 29, it was raining cats and dogs. With AWD no issues as some puddles had water splashing as high as the fenders.
I find the aggressive launch is exciting and fun. I don't Track BUT can perform aggressive launches often in my rural area. I often drive in Z-Mode Power set to Track. It's not just at launch, if you stab the throttle for a quick short acceleration, it's fun to see the electric power reach over 100 while the ICE is just spooling up! Great after a turn of stop sign.
AWD is about more than just straight line acceleration. But that's a difficult concept to understand for those whose only experience with AWD with a Tesla.
unless you drive 06 and an ER on the street, no one will ever understand.
It is not a C8. It’s not even a close comparison.
Wait what?
Every car we're talking about are C8's.
I have a C8Z, and a C7Z. And a tesla. So i know what it's like to street drive a high revving engine, a torquey monster like the LT4 and an AWD instant torque electric car.
The ERAY isn't some spaceship where you need a special license to drive. It's a normal widebody stingray with an electric front motor. So one will experience the V8 sound but the pull of an electric car since it does very fast 0-60 times. I don't need to drive it to understand.
A z06 is something YOU NEED to drive to understand.
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Hmm, you may already be aware of this difference, BUT with FWD the E-Ray uses torque vectoring so compared to a Z06 you can accelerate faster and sooner out of an apex. Granted in the straight on a Track, the Z06 will best the E-Ray but on a short Track or where I have fun Steet Driving torque vectoring is a help in tight turns.
Torque-Vectoring: In simple terms, torque vectoring is a computer-controlled system that controls how much power a car’s engine or motors send to each individual wheel. By controlling power more effectively, a car with torque vectoring will have more grip and can accelerate more quickly, especially out of steep turns. It's particularly effective with powered front wheels. The E-Ray uses eSLD to help in the rear.
E-Ray (like some other sports cars) uses front brakes for torque vectoring: In this type of application, torque vectoring is accomplished by braking the inside front wheel in a turn. This allows more power to be sent to the outside wheel improving a car’s ability to accelerate out of tight corners.
Torque Vectoring helps rotate the E-Ray out of a sharp turn
Although I don't Track, have fun in safe places making high "g" turns. This is Pic, superimposed from my PDR, in my C8 Z51 with MRC. Plan to see what the E-Ray, with Torque Vectoring, can accomplish on this turn!
I understand jerry, but for street driving none of that is a concern.
Tesla has probably THE best torque vectoring system out there and i have had 2 teslas already. I know what AWD can do for "STREET" driving. If you want to talk about track i don't know about that, and a z06 with a pro driver will pull faster lap times than a pro in an ERAY.
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That is why I posted the Pic where on my way back from town I make a 90-degree turn, farm fields both sides, usually zero traffic. I safely hit a "1.3 peak g." In fact, made one yesterday in another similar area, no other cars and fields both sides. The only issue was the CCB's, prior to turning. E-Ray doesn't slow as fast as my 2017 Grand Sport. But I have given up every having a car that will stop as well! One of the best stopping Vettes ever! Nice to live in the country!
I have a C8Z, and a C7Z. And a tesla. So i know what it's like to street drive a high revving engine, a torquey monster like the LT4 and an AWD instant torque electric car.
The ERAY isn't some spaceship where you need a special license to drive. It's a normal widebody stingray with an electric front motor. So one will experience the V8 sound but the pull of an electric car since it does very fast 0-60 times. I don't need to drive it to understand.
A z06 is something YOU NEED to drive to understand.
I have driven all variants, aC8 SR for a year to see if I liked the platform while waiting for Z06 or ER. I like the platform. I have designed, built and raced cars for 15 years, both on the track and open road unlimited competition.
Drove a Z06 for days on the street, it’s not a great car for the street, doesn’t matter if “it has an fpc ….”, it’s not that great, but better, as a vehicle for open back roads; what it is is a track razor, where the rpm’s are kept in the 5-8500 range. If you buy a c8 Z06 for primary street driving, enjoy the rage, the scream, the noise, cause after an hour or 3, that’s what it becomes. Maybe not the first week, month or year, but the miles and smiles will never result in as many hours in the vehicle as previous Z06/Zr1’s… and you’ll end up selling it befire it has a lot of miles…. To a track rat!!!
the eRay is never going to be a great track car without mods to raise and extend that torque curve….too high a polar moment, heavier and although exceptionally stable at high speeds and transitions, and in most weather conditions, not a razor on the track. To have a scalpel at the track you need to have a Z06. It is the perfect track attack vehicle!!
However, the ER is everything a high performance street weapon should be…extremely fast, somewhat quiet, excellent handling and a vehicle you can drive cross country, to a weekend drive on some twists, or to a track 6 hours away.
The best part no one‘s ever going to even notice you… your head won’t be ringing from the buzz, and neither will your partners, and you’ll have spanked a few on the way, and get crushed by a plaid
They’re both great cars. I just wish owners were also appreciative of what others drive too instead of the i have this, yours is not this and mine is more special/unique blah, blah.
That's fine if you like the ERAY. No one is telling you to not like it.
But the fact is, the z06 is a more special car. That's just how it is. Not saying the ERAY isn't special. It's just that the z06 is more special.
It's like saying the GT3RS isn't special when comparing it to a carrera GTS or something. Both obviously amazing cars. But the GT3RS is just next level.
And people street drive the GT3(RS) just as people do with the carrera GTS.
Fact is the z06 has gotten the most hyped, the most craze, the most everything leading up to the debut, and then when the car debuted. It wasn't the case with the ERAY.
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Hmm, you may already be aware of this difference, BUT with FWD the E-Ray uses torque vectoring so compared to a Z06 you can accelerate faster and sooner out of an apex. Granted in the straight on a Track, the Z06 will best the E-Ray but on a short Track or where I have fun Steet Driving torque vectoring is a help in tight turns.
Torque-Vectoring: In simple terms, torque vectoring is a computer-controlled system that controls how much power a car’s engine or motors send to each individual wheel. By controlling power more effectively, a car with torque vectoring will have more grip and can accelerate more quickly, especially out of steep turns. It's particularly effective with powered front wheels. The E-Ray uses eSLD to help in the rear.
E-Ray (like some other sports cars) uses front brakes for torque vectoring: In this type of application, torque vectoring is accomplished by braking the inside front wheel in a turn. This allows more power to be sent to the outside wheel improving a car’s ability to accelerate out of tight corners.
Torque Vectoring helps rotate the E-Ray out of a sharp turn
Although I don't Track, have fun in safe places making high "g" turns. This is Pic, superimposed from my PDR, in my C8 Z51 with MRC. Plan to see what the E-Ray, with Torque Vectoring, can accomplish on this turn!
Well said.
But it not a special car like the Z06 says a few
The 2024 will be one of the lowest production corvette in history with totals less than 1000......ooooh, the 2024 is sooooo veeery special
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
C4 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019
Originally Posted by Z0HS1CK
A z06 is something YOU NEED to drive to understand.
The most true statement of this entire thread.
Originally Posted by mmthomas
...Drove a Z06 for days on the street, it’s not a great car for the street, doesn’t matter if “it has an fpc ….”, it’s not that great, but better, as a vehicle for open back roads; what it is is a track razor, where the rpm’s are kept in the 5-8500 range. If you buy a c8 Z06 for primary street driving, enjoy the rage, the scream, the noise, cause after an hour or 3, that’s what it becomes. Maybe not the first week, month or year, but the miles and smiles will never result in as many hours in the vehicle as previous Z06/Zr1’s… and you’ll end up selling it before it has a lot of miles…. To a track rat!!!...
I find my C8 Z06 a better street car than my C6 ZR1. It's all in what someone is willing to live with and what they want out of the car.
Despite wading into this thread debating over the sound you hear during acceleration is piped in or authentic whine from the electric motor, I don't understand the constant ego contests some corvette fans feel the need to get into.
For Z06 owners, it's ok for someone else to not be attracted to the LT6. Unless you're a person that will track it, the fact it will be faster around said track over the E-Ray is irrelevant. Tired of reading that talking point in this contest of "superiority". Stop trying to put down other variants because they lack being, "special". I am sure the E-Ray is special to the owners that bought the E-Ray.
For E-Ray owners, no need to be defensive. Yes the E-Ray does not appeal to me, but I did not come here to bash it or insult it. Yes I am still on the side of that noise being piped in. I went back and watched the video I linked and the segment of the video I referenced never said "think it is piped in". They said it is piped in and it changes with the drive mode. All that matters is if you like the sound, great! It is awesome that you find that sound as an enhancement to your experience with the E-Ray, fake or not. The E-Ray is a great car. Enjoy it! But don't dismiss others views because they don't own the car. They can still know the details of the vehicle like any E-Ray owner despite not owning it.
It gets tiring. Just as those last year acting smug that they got a Z06 and telling others they would never get one because the Z06 is "sold out" for its entire production run.
These ego contests ruin what should be a great community discussing the vehicles we love.
Trust me i'm not. However the proof is in this thread though
Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Proof of what? That the most posts in this thread were by a guy who doesn't own an e-ray, has never has been in an e-ray, and probably has no intent to buy one. Whatever substance you had to contribute, happened 20 posts ago. Here's an idea - Give it a rest. Seriously.
Wonder when we'll hear the end of "yours is nice, but mine is nicer". The horse is dead...we know you don't like the E-ray...hopefully when you see one at a stop they've converted the rear exhaust to center exit so you can only say you were bested by a Z06.
Back to the OP's question - yes, people have moved from the Z06 to the E-ray, and from the posts on this forum, all of them were happy with the switch. Facts, not my opinion...
