Back pain

BackDebate said on 25 October 2012

I've also found some fantastic physio exercises - next time you have to visit a physio as recommended by your NHS doctor (or visit a book shop), ask them if they have heard of an Australian Physio called Sarah Key. Her exercises are based on yoga and do the job like no other physio exercises I have had in 25 years! Good luck

BackDebate said on 25 October 2012

Here goes! The NHS has funded research into the effectiveness of the Alexander Technique for back problems. They found it helped alot...just hoping the NHS will take up their own recommendations soon! We need a personalised back care plan - not just paracetamol, NSAID's and the vague exercise suggestion. I found the AT changed my life - no more spasms - phew. Less pain and the ability to exercise again - bliss! Ask your doctor about it! Surviving back pain is what its all about!

BackDebate said on 25 October 2012

I've had back problems for 25 years, so I guess you could say they are chronic! Also neck issues. Prolapsed discs, sciatica, muscle spasms which not only affect the local area but have paralysed me. I haven't' been able to do much exercise as every time I have started I have been made worse....I've finally got a handle on my problems...sadly I can't write about it here as each time I mention what has worked the editors remove my post....not sure what I can write...will try to see what is 'acceptable' in another post...just wish good news could be shared as well as the bad...!

Brian501 said on 06 October 2012

Its a good question,upper back pain is a huge problem often linked to lower back pain.
I know my wife suffered for many years with her upper and lower back pain .some times she could not even move with out the use of support and pain relief drugs.

Thank goodness she eventually got a positive diagnosis,it was linked to her upper back and neck,a hereditary problem, which also plagued her family for many years,but not any more,I know they got very helpful information from that book she bought,on back problems and her physician,the book is called back pain causes and cures.

the_poet said on 05 October 2012

Hi everyone. My current bout of back pain was caused by a muscular strain after I did some exercises recommended by my physiotherapist. At first it caused some stiffness and a sore muscle that felt weak but gradually, as most people here probably know, the pain starts affecting other muscles that are compensating for the one that is not being used much, due to the pain. Anyway, I recently figured that a strain can take a few months to heal and when it does it tightens up your muscles so you should do gentle stretches within the limits of your pain. Obviously ask a professional before you start but I recently did this and I am surprised how much difference it can make, though I overstretched yesterday, which may have set back my recovery but the positive thing is that I now know what I must do. When my body is ready I will stretch it gently everyday and increase my range of motion. I also found that the Weleda Massage Balm With Arnica (which is actually a oil like liquid) is quite effective as a remedy for pain relief. It has no side effects (that I know of - do patch test or ask your Doctor before you try it), so it's worth trying. It does not cure anything but it does ease the pain. Hope we all feel better soon.

7stars dubai said on 27 September 2012

i have had back pain last 4 years.i have colapsed in the town centre .tryed to get up took me 30 min. walked for about 3 feet droped to floor again could not stand up been told by hospital its a slipped disc.i sleep on wooden floor in my house seems to help a bit.wife does not belive how much pain im in.can anyone help .the pain is so unbareable.

Dhulqarnayn said on 05 August 2012

Can someone kindly tell me where I can get an inversion therapy from in the UK, West Midlands. I have searched a lot in google but of no avail. Any links or address are welcome. Tanks.

simplexity said on 02 July 2012

Why is osteopathy and physiotherapy mention specifically as providing manipulative care and chiropractic left out?

Both osteopaths and chiropractors train at undergraduate and master’s level for a total of 4 to 5 years before qualifying. They are experts in musculoskeletal health care, and are regulated by law with their own government linked councils.

Maybe as an attempt to be properly informed a visit to the various chiropractic educational institution websites, all affiliated with respectable universities could be a useful first port of call.

http://www.aecc.ac.uk/
http://hesas.glam.ac.uk/subjects/chiropractic/
http://www.mctimoney-college.ac.uk/

backrx said on 21 June 2012

Pain in the lower back or low back pain is a common concern, affecting up to 90% of people at some point in their lifetime. Up to 50% will have more than one episode. Low back pain is not a specific disease. Rather, it is a symptom that may occur from a variety of different processes. In up to 85% of people with low back pain, despite a thorough medical examination, no specific cause of the pain can be identified.
Back pain can have many underlying reasons, but often no specific cause will be found and the pain will stop. We try to touch on many of the causes of back pain and proper evaluation and diagnosis. Please make sure to discuss your individual symptoms as well as the suggested treatments with us to determine the appropriate diagnostic and treatment plan for your circumstances.
• Low back pain is second only to the common cold as a cause of lost days at work. It is also one of the most common reasons to visit a doctor's office or a hospital's emergency department.
• Doctors usually refer to back pain as acute if it has been present for less than a month and chronic if it lasts for a longer period of time.
Causes
Back pain is a symptom. Common causes of back pain involve disease or injury to the muscles, bones, and/or nerves of the spine
• (a nerve is directly irritated), often due to a herniation (or bulging) of the disc between the lower back bones.
• Herniated discs are produced as the spinal discs degenerate or grow thinner. The jellylike central portion of the disc bulges out of the central cavity and pushes against a nerve root.
• Spondylosis occurs as intervertebral discs lose moisture and volume with age, which decreases the disc height.
• spinal-canal narrowing (spinal stenosis
• Osteoporosis , degeneration of the bones
• Poor postures while sitting, Standing etc
• Work related repeated

ohisay said on 20 May 2012

One treatment for back pain sciatica is an inversion table.
Used for just 2 mins per day (no more) it can potentially release trapped nerves as well as relaxing tight muscles.
It is painless while you are using it - following day you may need some anti imflammatories.
Worked for me.- reduced scitiaca pain 80% after 5 sessions.

ohisay said on 20 May 2012

One treatment for back pain sciatica is an inversion table.
Used for just 2 mins per day (no more) it can potentially release trapped nerves as well as relaxing tight muscles.
It is painless while you are using it - following day you may need some anti imflammatories.
Worked for me.- reduced scitiaca pain 80% after 5 sessions.

Robbiej1s said on 01 May 2012

To all the back neck and thoracic pain sufferers,

It is common place to apply the remedy to the site of pain, or the source of pain, this can and does work but for those that have tried and are unsuccessful it is a good idea to look for the source of the stress upon the structure that is failing.
If the tyres on your car wear unevenly you not only change your tyres but also correct the tracking! The body's equivalent could be the feet (podiatry), the pelvis (some form of physical therapy), muscle imbalance either strength or length (physiotherapy) the way you are sat right now, the height of your computer screen, the fact that you use a lap top too much, your vari-focal glasses and the list goes on.

My message is if you don't find what you want in one place look in another, the problem could be extrinsic not intrinsic!

Ouch123 said on 04 April 2012

Hello Fellow back sufferers, my sincerest best wishes to everyone that their backs get better or at least it stops hurting.

Had a back problem for twenty years - discs. The problem comes and goes and now, after a stumble, it's back with a vengeance.

The last bout I had lasted eighteen months, agony and all movement, walking, bending, doing mundane jobs were done in a hell of pain but reading some of the storeys here makes me feel a bit of a whinger because some of you have it much worse than me and I have picked up a few tips that I hadn't heard of before so I'll try them out, thank you to all for your helpful suggestions.

Does any one else get severely depressed by it all? I do. I've just managed to get to the local shop and back - a five minute walk but it took me twenty because I had to stop and hang on to every fence and post I shuffled past.

What's depressed me this time is because I went to the shops to buy some cigarettes, I gave in after over three months of not smoking but feel I need them just to have something to take my mind off the pain, stupid I know but I'm at such a low ebb with it all.

Quite agree with the comments re doctors, they just aren't interested. Wish I was young and pretty they'd all be falling over backwards to help then!

But it has helped to come here and read that I'm not alone in this so thanks everyone for sharing your own stories here and good luck to all.

californiagail said on 19 March 2012

I'm 58 years old and in the last 8 years have had 3 spinal surgeries and I'm now in constant pain despite the huge amount of medication I'm on. I have14 titanium screws 2 rods and 2 cages around the whole works. I'm fed up with the amount of medication I have to take and wonder just what the long term affects are going to be and just how much worse my condition is going to get. I've been researching the possibilities of pain relief implants but can't find much in the way of information to whether it's available in this country. So if anybody that reads this can help me or knows of somebody that has had this treatment I would love to hear about it. Many thanks.

ebany said on 06 March 2012

I have been suffering from severe back pain for over a year one had a MRI scan the consultant who did my scan told me I have two slipped disc which trapped a nerve so refer me to the spinal hospital for more investigations. After waiting for nearly 3 months for an appointment to see the spinal consultant I am told that there is nothing wrong with me. I have severe back pain, pins and needles numbness and loss of feelings in my leg and bum and feet. I sometimes fall over so now walk with a stick and getting out of bed is pure agony because my back seize up. I am scared and very worried. The specialist makes me feel it’s all in my head. I can’t do house work, sit or stand for long, I have no social life. I have become literally house bound and very depress. Can this be in my head?

kimbojade said on 26 February 2012

about 4 years ago i got pushed of a wall and hit my back and now still on my back kills me and i get really bad pain ive been to the doctors for it and they give me some pain killers but it didnt help at all and now its still hurting and i dunno what to do

kim

nopainatlast said on 26 February 2012

I first had backache at the age of 35 after the birth of my third child and progressively it got worse through the years as sciatica, neck, shoulders, knees were added to the repertoire.

I visited the GP, the specialist, several physios to no avail. At times it seemed like there was a knife lodged in the middle of my back, the pain was so intense. By the time I had to walk my child to a nearby school it seemed like there was glass powder lodged in my knees. X rays were taken and I was told that my knee cap was worn out (!) and several vertebrae were arthritic.

I had good times and bad but after my shoulders seized up and I could not move my arms further than my side towards the back, I finally decided to try a chiropractor who after several sessions completely helped eased my muscles and joints.

For good measure, I also went on a nutrition course and learnt to separate natural foods from the chaffe.

During the course I also learnt that having poisonous metals in your mouth is not a good idea so I had all the amalgam removed by a specially trained dentist who took many precautions while extracting the mercury.

Since than for the last couple of years, I have not had a need for going to the doctors for any reason, touch wood.

And now at the age of 60, I have no pains anywhere whatsoever and can enjoy building elaborate train sets with my grandchildren and walk all day if I feel like it!

Better backs said on 15 February 2012

I personally found no benefit from visiting 5 different chiropractors. Improvement was temporary.

Saw 1 physio - problem fixed and remains fixed.

Better backs said on 14 February 2012

@montyzoomar

Sounds like you really should have seen a decent physio. The first port of call for any back pain, other than the GP should be a physiotherapist - as the article suggests.

My physio on the other hand empowered ME and I now perform regular exercises at home to manage any niggles before they worsen. I see him perhaps once a year if needed and then it only takes him 4-6 or less sessions to get me right again.

Good luck.

montyzoomar said on 04 February 2012

Over the last 40 years I have earned myself a bad back, one morning finding myself completely unable to move.

My wife phoned the NHS helpline who told me to get up, move around and take painkillers.

The only way I was able to achieve any mobility was to empty the contents of my freezer on to my back until my spine was virtually frozen.

I made an appointment with my GP. I think it was three weeks before I could get to see my usual doctor, who informed me that our hospital no longer does X-rays for bad backs and to try some painkillers.

As fellow back sufferers will know, after weeks of walking awkwardly the discomfort spreads all over your body, not to mention the digestive problems from taking pain relief.

A friend advised that I should go and see a osteopath.

In their opinion something in my spine was out of alignment and suggested that I return to my GP with recommendations that an MRI was performed to establish their findings.

I gave the letter to my GP who then put in a request for the MRI which was later refused.

I was even offered morphine patches for a undiagnosed problem.

To date, I have spent the best part of £1,000 just to keep myself mobile with chiropractic treatment.

I suspect some time soon we will see a national announcement that back problems are in the decline in the UK – well they will be if they are not being diagnosed and just leaving patients to their own devices.

shirlwillie said on 28 January 2012

Good Afternoon, about 4 wks ago ,My legs went from under me after slipping of paving slabs. I ended up landing on my back and elbows. After a few days of being bruised and in a little pain, i seem to have recovered. But for the last few days. I have had constant pain in my upper back, and find i am losing my grip.I have visited my gp this week and she reckons i could have damages ribs/ shoulder blades. But sending me for xray would waste my time etc, as they cant treat these. As the day goes on the pain gets worse. Any suggestions please

User638028 said on 25 January 2012

i,ve had back problem n and off since my 3rd child, (7 years) i got my MRI results today stating,.

"there is some straightening of the normal lumbar lordosis, aligement is otherwise preserved"

" there is desiccation of the lower two lumbar intervertebral disks, at L4-L5, there is mild annular disk protrusion, which, in associationwith mild bilateral facet joint hypertrophy" is causing my pain.

"at L5-S1 there is left-sided paracentral focal disk protrusion which is seen to contect the descending left S1nerve root with in the lateral recess" causeing my hip and leg pain "mild bilateral facet joint hypertrophy is also seen at this level"

can someone please explain what this means in english and also give me an idea what opsions the sergan might give me when i see him, as GP was good and tried to expailn it to me but once i got home i forgot half what was said. and if at all posiable the pros and cons of the different treatments i might get offered, im 31 if that makes a difference with good health i think: :P thank you all for reading

User626923 said on 22 December 2011

I have had three periods of serious back trouble (P.I.D). The first, when I was 28 yrs old after digging a vegetable plot even when I had massive back ache after 3 days continuous digging. Bed rest for 6 weeks cured it.

The next happened when I was 36 years old, we had a small shop and picked up our supplies from Cash & Carry. My back was SO BAD that I had difficulty putting one foot in front of the other..4 weeks in Hospital on tranquilisers + 2 weeeks at home fixed it. the last time was when i was 56 yrs old, 6 weeks on my back fixed it.
I read with horror the continuing "new" thinking that you should carry on as normal and take pain killers. I have found this advice to be inappropriate and incorrect I in my case (P.I.D). I am of the opinion that the reason for this "new" medical thinking is politically motivated in order to keep people in work - Dr's will be reluctant to take tough decisions needed to cure their patients..

hannaaxo said on 19 December 2011

i have been suffering with lower back pain now since the age of 15! i am now 18 and still not diagnosis, despite numerous trips to the doctors/physio/x rays.. still no diagnosis..so after 3 years they now decide to send me for a MRI scan! its getting worse and worse and some times i find it difficult to even drive let alone walk. pain starts off at the bottom left of my back and gradually works its way up and across.. any one else have this problem?

SarrahM said on 14 November 2011

I have also had problems with my back.. I was lost for a little while, because the doctors coundn't tell me what was my sitiation... While looking for solutions on the internet I found this website: http://lowerbackpain-relief.com/ ( sorry if I am not allowed to post links here, I just want to share my experience). I got a free ebook from there, where they offer many back pain natural solutions. So far it has worked great for me... I was just curious what do you think about the methods in the book?

nellywelly said on 03 November 2011

I'm currently struggling with back pain, especially at night. It started back in January of this year when I moved a mattress, I didn't feel anything at the time but about 10 minutes later after I sat down I could hardly move. The pain was pretty much unbearable at the time but gradually receded. I was off work for about 2 weeks went back to work for a few days but ended up having another couple of weeks off and a course of physio. The pain did get better however at night I could no longer lay either on my front or side without pain, and the pain in my hips has never really gone away.

About a month ago I felt my back go again as I slipped on some stairs. I tried to carry on as normal with work etc. but in the last couple of weeks I have been off work. My job involves a lot of lifting and bending, I was finding as soon as I stopped what I was doing I would completely stiffen up and the pain at night means a complete lack of sleep. The doctor has never really told me anything specific about my problem I've explained that sometimes low back near my spine feels almost like it's bruised and that when I lie down it sometimes feels like I'm laying on a small stone (something hard poking in my back), but have received no explanation. I explain my job and on the last occasion I was asked how long I would like to be signed off for, I was quite taken aback by that surely he should know, I just said well I want to make sure it's right before I return, I sometimes get the feeling they think I'm just there to get signed off! I want to work (I need the money!) but I also don't want to be laying in agony and not sleeping at night. I'm getting to a point where my employers probably feel I'm messing them about, but I also feel like I've never got a straight answer from the GP. Anyhow I'm now seriously considering seeing an osteopath even though I can't really afford it, but may I'll get some real answers....

Dav0 said on 31 October 2011

I sympathise with some of the posts on here and just need to vent. I'm only 28 and have had lower back pain since July this year. Since then, it has gotten progressively worse to the point where even sitting down and lying down are painful. I'm unable to do my job, which I loved immensely and lived for. It has robbed me of my self esteem and sense of worth and, most crushingly of all, it doesn't get any better and seems to be getting progressively worse.

What's most frustrating of all is that no one can tell me what's wrong with it. MRI's are apparently 'normal,' even though it feels like someone digging a knife into the base of my spine and my left foot is 'numb.' I am lucky to be in a position where I can afford to pay privately for treatment, though despite chucking nearly £1500 at the problem so far, I am no further forward. I have never known such despair and honestly wonder how people cope with this if it never gets better. I have gone from being in the gym every day, running, lifting etc, to barely being able to do anything. Does anyone ever get better from this? It has really turned my life upside down. It's like being trapped in my personal hell...

sammy1210 said on 01 October 2011

I am 29 years old and have suffered from chronic lower back pain for 5 years now. I have been lucky with my treatment on the NHS - the only problem is sometimes its too long between scan to consoltation to treatment. I have had several epidurals, nerve blocks and other procedures with mixed results. I have also been offered an opp but declined as was feeling strong at the time only to suffer 2 weeks after consoltation with spinal spec to then become cripple again and then wait another 6 monhs to see him again!! The hardest part for me to live with is my true ambitions in life have been severly compromised because of my back condition. I am a experienced horsewoman who could have gone far but have had to change career because of my back. If on holiday, i can no longer ski (just incase i fall), can no longer ride a bike or walk my dogs for miles! Sometimes the pain is managable and i think '' i can do this, i have to learn to live and adapt with this condition'' but then i have a bad day, when for no reason the pain is unbearable. There is no movement in my spine, im hunched over like a 90 yr old and i can no longer walk without help. Tasks like washing, dressing - going to the toilet suddenly become the most difficult things. I have also suffered from Drs telling me i was too young to be suffering so i was told to change my job and rest - this went on for 2 yrs!! All i could ever want is my 29 yr old body back, to be mobile, pain free and to do the jobs and hobbies that i want to do. I want my LIFE back!!! Heres to all the people crippled with back pain - you will only understand what we go through daily if you have lived with it - Good luck everyone!!

terryjohn said on 30 September 2011

i to can relate to all you sufferers ive had back pain since 2003 the consultan treplaced my hips but the pain is still there it was only after an assistant consultant sent me for a m r i scan it showed i had 2 slipped discs i thought at last we have found the problem now for the cure not so the head consultant has refused to opperate (no reason given) so i am on the srap heap for the rest of my life the pain is unbearable at times i am also now taking 12 diffrent types of medication tramadol and for my water works and now also diabetes i feel so sorry for all you other sufferers epidurals dont work and physio is a no no the pain will just crease you up, i no have been through it .

terryjohn said on 30 September 2011

i am so sorry all you people have suffered this dreadful back pain i have been a severe sufferer since 2003 i am now 57 yrs of age and feel like im on the scrap heap i have not been able to to work since the specialist first told me i needed a double hip replacement which i had done in 2004/2005 but the pain was still present so after a couple of more yrs an assitant consultant decided to send me for an m r i scan which showed i had 2 slipped disc my consultant refused to operate( no reason given) medication is a waste of time they just do not work neither do epidurals and physio is a no no the pain is unbearable i am now on 12 diffrent lots of pills a day an nhs junkie i am now suffering water work problems and diabetes

Alison57 said on 27 September 2011

I was almost reduced to tears by reading peoples comments and relating to so many things. I too feel very let down and`put out to grass` by the medical proffession. It would take far too long to go into detail but here is a basic breakdown of my back problems. Fell onto base of spine,way back in 1995. just thought I`d get over it,but 1 year later startes to suffer severe back pain. Was told by GP that everyone gets back pain as they get older. I was 39 at the time! By 2001 I had convinced myself I was going mad until a sympathetic GP sent me to see a musculskeletal specialist who sent me for an MRI scan. This revealed L4-5 ANS l5-s1 discs were prolapsed...from the fall. I cried with relief... I wasn`t going mad! But after 8 years of epidural steroid injections,which did help at first I am now untreatable apart from pain management. I have spent the last year seeing a orthapaedic spinal surgeon who more than implied he could fuse L4-L5 for me and take the pressure of the lower disc which causes numbness in my right outer foot. After numerous painful diagnostic testse.g discogram,facet joint injectins I have now been told,no surgery,it might make things worse! Pain management clinic waiting list is about 8 months long and I have been waiting 15 years to be helped really! I am now reduced to tears to think I am stuck like this at the age of 54. No one seems to care. GP yesterday looked at me as if I was a scrounger. Asked if I was depressed...probably YES,but my main problem is pain! I am on 8 soluble co-codamol a day. Tramadol make me sick and I can`t take anti inflammatories.I work 3 days a week in a school and am a respite foster carer so am not scrounging. I feel my life is reduced to misery and that no one actually cares anymore. I keep getting symptons of a water infection with no infection present and do wonder if that is anything to do with my back. GP says it`s all to do with my age!! Iam so desperate now. It helps to know I`m not alone. Thankyou.

amber19x said on 07 September 2011

Hi there I was diagnosed with PCOS yesterday and I suffer from about 3 periods per month. I get terrible back pain around the time my periods start - it's a dull ache in my lower back and sometimes I have to remain in bed for up to 3 days each time my period arrives.

I mentioned this to my doctor when I initially went to voice my concerns however she didn't offer me any solution as to how I can manage the back pain as she was more concerned with the diagnosis of PCOS.. if anyone has any suggestions as to what can do to relieve this pain it would be much appreciated! (note I have tried strong painkillers, nurofen and feminax and they haven't improved the problem at all)

mac0623 said on 15 August 2011

well all very interesting comments
Tracyhubble I totally agree
i am now 50 next week had my surgery when i was 32
lower back pain l1 l2 l3 s1 nerve correction and fussion
straight after surgery had problems with my legs and too this day struggle to walk and i feel like i have a body of 80 year old
my hips hurt so bad sex life gone
not worked since my accident in a coal mine
on my spine
must say nhs in nottingham has been very good indeed
can not complain
but lately just passed on and on
many to list injections in my spine fusion didnt work
took millions of pills
feel like i lost out on a lot of things

immanuel123 said on 21 May 2011

i have been suffering back pain for years and years how can i get rid of it.

tiger7372 said on 29 April 2011

I have read with interest many of the comments here and I sympathise entirely as a long-term back pain sufferer myself. What many of you might perceive as apathy from your GP may not be the case. While they acknowledge and understand your concerns, an onward referral is the best thing for you - back pain is very poorly understood, not because nobody cares but because it is complicated. Typically, referral will be to a physio to begin with. The physios are experts in musculoskeletal physical diagnosis and they will at least provide an idea as to what is happening. You are unlikely to experience immediate pain relief so don't expect it. You may see an orthopaedic surgeon who will provide and MRI or x-ray - imaging is useful but can be misleading - most people (back pain or not) will have some bulging / deterioration. Ortho management might be an injection, surgery if needed or back to physio (knowing that all else is excluded). Then its the pain management team - they are not explicitly trying to rid you of your pain but help you manage with it. Accepting and learning to live with pain is liberating and very important - no longer are you controlled by the pain but, knowing that you are doing no further harm to yourself, you can do thing you want to do (within reason). It might sound glib, but sometimes back pain can be permanent, and constantly searching for the diagnosis and magic treatment can be more detrimental to your life than the pain itself. The pain team will give you your life back if nothing else - they consist of doctors, physios, psychologists. occupational therapists, etc... Just beware of alternative therapies – the information you receive (like you need six-monthly adjustments / manipulations) are usually laced with self-serving intention. Basically, if an alternative treatment works (e.g. acupuncture) the NHS will offer it. Stick to what the experts have to offer.

Alexandria17 said on 12 April 2011

Hi, this is not about me, this is about my mum. She has had increasingly agonising back pains since she was about 20years old, she is now 53. The pain has now got to the point where she is unable to move without it causing her pain. She visited the hospital on several occasions and they incouraged her to stop taking her oramorph so that they can moniter her pain. She followed through and took the oppertunity to find out what was wrong with her back, they first told her that she had got 'buldging disks', then it changed to 'your spine is disintergrating' and now they are saying that they do not know what it causing the pain and that she has to learn to 'live with it'. She has been trying to make a normal life for herself and me except I cannot just sit around waiting for the day that her pain is going to be so bad that it is unbearable. She is now still taking to oramorph - 1tablet in the morning and 1tablet at night. This does not seem to be helping, and neither has the treatment that she recieved. We have no clue what the pain is caused by as the doctors(GP) and the doctors from the hosputal do not know either. It is getting ridiculous and if anybody would be willing to give me some help and advice I will willingly take it.

TheAverIn said on 12 April 2011

Every time a sqwot to long or lift somthing my back start hurting it use to be that it only hurt when i lift heavy thing but now it seems doing just a bout any thng will throw my lower back out and im not sure why it hurts i was hopeing to find answers on this website

Caspar said on 11 April 2011

BBC medical programme – looking for sufferers of chronic back pain & osteoarthritis

Oxford Scientific Films is making a pilot medical programme for the BBC. The show aims to help the British public become healthier and better manage common illnesses such as back pain.

The programme is presented by two experts, one a medical doctor, the other a science professor, who share a private practice together in Harley St. During the programme our experts will examine and treat three patients, and explain the science behind the condition and treatment.

We are looking for people with chronic back pain or osteoarthritis who may be interested in appearing in the pilot. Our experts would offer them a bespoke personalized treatment programme lasting up to six weeks, and we would follow the course of their treatment in the programme.

If you are interested in taking part in the programme please contact Davina Bristow at dbristow@oxfordscientificfilms.tv or on 0207 317 1359.

sushil said on 06 April 2011

Take your doctor's advice before attempting any exercises, if you are already experiencing back pain.
There is no need of any special equipment for doing exercises to reduce low back pain.and it is also not complicated.

jayjay4711 said on 28 March 2011

Have suffered from back pain for many years and found in the beginning that stretching gave me relief. No more. I'm now in my 60's and the pain is constant. Pain killers do very little to alleviate the paid and exercise - even light like walking is impossible (I'm no martyr). I shall keep hunting for relief and hope that something comes up soon.

Toxdom said on 21 March 2011

Re Tracey Hubble

I suggest you ask your GP to refer you to be tested for a genetic condition called alkaptonuria. Look it up, black bones and lower back problems from age 30-40 onwards.
good luck.

gemily89 said on 12 March 2011

I am 21 years old I have suffered immensely with severe sever back pain to the extent some days I cannot walk and I just keep getting brushed off by the doctors with weak painkillers or ibuprofen/naproxen I have been to AnE 4 times as sometimes I have been stuck in certain positions and they've just given me voltarol and sent me home I am 21 and just want to live a normal life i work in the care profession and I just want to be able to enjoy my job and go out with friends and I cant! Why wont the Health system help me??

foREVerharmless said on 09 March 2011

After a severe cold over Christmas, I suddenly developed extreme pain in my lower pack and pelvis. I tried painkillers and heat packs but nothing seemed to work. Early February I went to the doctors and was prescribed a six week course of Ibuprofen, despite saying painkillers didn't work. I went back to the doctors two weeks after finishing the painkillers. I have now been referred for physiotherapy. Just as a side note, I mentioned that as I am currently doing my GCSE's, I wondered if my refferal could be made later. The doctor said I wasn't to worry as the waiting list was so long, it is likely I'll be in college before any treatment begins.
After looking through this website, I have seen that quite a few people using the contraceptive injection also suffer back pain. My GP and the doctor I saw on my second appointment are aware that I use the Injection, should I be concerned that the link wasn't made?

jimfield said on 26 February 2011

I have suffered with back pain for ten years, I am now 85. I have tried chiroprctic ,acupuncture and various other remedys. Fortunately painkillers work for me ,codine/para, without side effects. Sadly my wife who is 89 suffers from extreme debillitating back pain and nothing her gp does helps in any way we are at a dead end .just waiting for the end. Sad.
jim

Angpuss said on 18 February 2011

For 2 years now I have been plagued with chronic debilitating lower back pain. An MRI of the area has been done and reveals some accelerated degeneration of the joints but not sufficient to really explain the level of pain I am experiencing. Recently I have begun to have episodes where my lower body becomes numb and my legs give out. On occasion this leads to loss of bladder control. I have been passed from one specialist to another with no definative answers. I rely on pain medication to get through my days and am developinig a tolerance. Yet that is the only thing which seems to provide any relief from my constant pain. The orthopaedic consultants won't deal with me because they can't see any need for surgery. I have been undergoing continious physiotherapy which is clearly not resolving my problem. I have undergone facet joint injections and epidurals which have had no effect. I wait months between each test and result and the scope of investigation seems ridiculously narrow. Specialists are only looking at the place where I feel pain rather than at the overall picture for problems. It seems that because I don't fit into their boxes they want to wash their hands of me. No one wants to take responsibility for finding answers and treating my problem. I have had to be signed off work for several months now because I am a fall risk and cannot travel safely on my own to work. I have been financially devastated. My GP treats me like an adict for needing pain medication and seems to pass moral judgement on my developing tolerance levels but my instructions for perscriptions come directly from the pain clinic I am working with and everything is above board. I cannot start the family that my partner and I want which is devastating for me. Every aspect of my life is being affected and slowly deteriorating and I can't seem to get any medical professional to care or help. The NHS is failing me!

Skyecastle said on 24 January 2011

The care provided by the NSH lacks in professionalism and correct care for back injury treatment. However after many years of hearing peoples stories, I feel it lacks in all other areas as well. The delays in getting tests, the delays in treatments, all cause situations to worsen, then when they do finally 'try' something, it seems to fail a lot, because they waited too long. Personally, I had a bad fall and broke my right leg, they xrayed my left leg, and sent me home, had also ruptured several discs, but they 'werent mentioned'. Several friends have suffered and even died at the hands of NSH and their mismanagement of symptoms. I believe they put off treatments to save money, and to blazes with the common man or woman. Its a disgrace. When you put money over the needs of the people, something is terribly wrong. Its a clear picture of what they think of their 'subjects'.

traceyhubble said on 08 January 2011

Hello.. about 12 yr ago i kept going 2 my doctors regarding terrible back pain. for 7 yr they kept pushing me away with painkillers which didnt work, but there again the back pain would ease off for short time, but everytime it come bk it was worse.. A ny way dec 05 my back went into spazams and it wouldnt go away,i was booked in for urgent scan. where they found the bottom disc was black 1 of them was sqaushing my nerves the 2 above was black too,i was told that all 3 would b dealt with. anyway 4 wks l8r i was admitted for opp, the afternoon after the opp the doctor come round to see how i was doing. my left leg was bouncing on the bed i had no control i had like burst of electric shocks in my left leg. I asked him why my leg was doing it, hes responce was nothing went wrong with the surgery. the problem i had was i didnt have this problem till i had surgery. i was discharged the morning after surgery i had no feeling down the outside of left leg every foot step i got a electric shock. ( which i still have 6 yrs l8r) anyway since then ive had nothing but problems ive been admitted over 30 times via hubbys car or by amblance because my body has gone into spazams,each time sent bk home. my doctor sent request for a new MRI scan, which has come bk that i have problems with all my lower bk disc and that i have a narrowing to the nerve that deals with the pelvis. im now writing this very up-set as ive been to the hospital to see consaltant today and hes told me nothing can be done he said my bk is wore out.. so now i have 2 take all these meds forever. im only 44. but my body feels 98. i would love 2 chat with people who have same problems.....

haktoff said on 05 January 2011

fractured 7 vertabrae 3 of them are wedge fractures after accident at work ( 2.5 tonne steel grab) in a mernerva jacket for 12 months (24/7) too complicated to operate so 7 years on still in agony tried morphine no good- fentanyl no good and now have a pump which feeds ziconatide through a catheter directly to my spinal cord no good- haha what ever next ???????????????????????????

Har01 said on 13 December 2010

Read this on chiropractic: http://www.ukskeptics.com/chiropractic.php

And this is an interesting article. http://saveyourself.ca/articles/structuralism.php

IMO, if you try an alternative therapist take what they say with quite a lot of salt. Don't listen to anyone who tells you you have to spend a lot of money. Or tells you that some minor structural deviation, that is so subtle noone can observe it (it doesn't exist), is causing your problem.

stephers18 said on 05 December 2010

i have back problems eg i struggle to breathe everytime i lie down but what could it be?

Vikram said on 05 December 2010

This link was lot better than the NHS page: http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Back-Pain.htm

As some of you have said, my biggest problem is to get an acknowledgement from nhs docs that I have a problem. Unless it is a chronic pain, apprantly they dont do anything other than suggesting to take rest/pain killers/wait.

GEt well soon all back pain sufferers (including me)

merrymaiden said on 10 November 2010

I'd recommend going to a Chiropractor to anyone having trouble getting their problem recognised. Yes, you will have to pay out at first, but you can also pay for an x-ray (something I was never offered on the NHS) and as they are experts in everything to do with the spine, they may be able to tell you what is actually wrong with you. For me it was the first step in getting NHS recognition, although strictly the NHS don't recognise chiropractic as an effective treatment, BUT... I went for months to my Chiropractor, and spent a lot of money, but it was worth it in the end. I also changed my doctor. My original doctor told me (about 5 years ago now - I was 30) I didn't have arthritis and it wasn't hereditary. My new doctor referred me for an MRI scan and physio, as I'd spent about £700 on chiropractic and this is not the action of someone who's not in pain. Turns out I have exactly same problem as my father (who started in his 20s) and genetics ARE supposed to be a factor. I've finally discovered what is wrong about a month ago so it's taken 5 years of pain. I wish I'd seen a chiropractor sooner, as mine knew exactly which discs were bulging etc etc and quoting her expertise in the spine to my new doctor, I feel, helped a lot. I also took my father along to my first appointment so the doctor could see the state he is in and appreciate my concerns. It's early days yet, I'm just being monitored as I've only just had my MRI report, but a huge psychological hurdle for me was actually getting recognition of the problems I was having and being listened to. Good luck to you all, I hope you all get the recognition and sympathetic ear that you deserve.

kentgirl28 said on 11 October 2010

i first hurt my back in january 2007 and was advised it was muscle strain, 10 months later and numerous doctor visits i was given an MRI which showed a severly prolapsed disc. 3 months later i was seeing a specialist and being referred for surgery. My doctor was astounded that i had been walking around and living with such a severe problem for a year, also its unheard of for young females to suffer this problem.. 2 weeks later i was in hospital undergoing a microdiscectomy. within days i could again feel my toes, it was brilliant. I was advised it was highly unlikely i would ever have the problem again. August 2009 my disc(the same one, well the remainder of it ) prolapsed again and i could not even get out of bed, 2 weeks i had to lie down and the only time i could move was when the pain relief had kicked in. I had a epidural steroid injection in March and again i am now waiting for a referral to see another specialist as my back is still not right. I suffer with daily headaches and spasms in my back that stop me dead in my tracks when walking. I have other symptoms too
I guess its true what they say, once a bad back, always a bad back.
after being told i would be fine and never suffer again, i fear that this will just be something i put up with for the rest of my life

claymorejohn said on 20 September 2010

hello folks, yes i know what back pain is all about, i have broke mine twice, 1st fell off a roof onto a plough, 2nd time off back of my lorry with 112lbs of seed potatoes on my chest, sidestepped to avoid another worker and landed on a small stone, ive also had a triple by-pass that failed within 3 months, now its left me with M. E, ostio arthritis, fibro mialga, angina (worse than it was) ostioporosis in lower back and am diabetic, some other things i can't pronounce, the constant pain never goes, they say you get used to it but you don't, almost all my joints are getting affected, i have both ankle braces, 1 knee brace, both wrist braces thats just to get about and still get made fun of, i try walks using ski sticks and admit they do help, now my neck, shoulders and most of my spine hurts, i have a back brace too, but it is steel covered with leather straps but gives me no support where its needed, the headaches i get are unbelievable so i'm going to try for a neck shoulder brace with a head rest, my head feels as if its too heavy for my neck to hold up, i know is't brass but its gettin awfy thin and weak, but at least i'll get 40 winks when out for a walk,i'll get more ribbing as i get older, if i reach another birthday, but what the heck, if you don't laugh i reckon we cry.as a matter of fact the cryin bit is never too far away either, like the other ladies in this i miss hill walking like i used to, going out shooting with my pal, i was a workaholic now i'm down to a quivvering bored wreck, i wish there was a cure, a switch to put it away for 10 mins now and then would help, and its amazing how many people do NOT believe you, but i see where they are coming from, there are so many "AT IT" out there it really does screw it up for the genuine thing, hey hoe another moan off the chest, maybe make it lighter, lol.

Pinkpalomino said on 02 August 2010

I broke my tailbone around 1999. I had no real problems until about 2005. Since then the pain has gotten progressively worse and has expanded to include my hips. I've been seeking relief for a time now and so far have been diagnosed with non-specific chronic lower back pain. They say this may last forever or end tomorrow. I don't see it ending soon but wow, wouldn't that be great? I suspect that since no mri was done, they are just guessing and giving a broad diagnoses. I'm very unhappy with it but it seems this is it.
I'm sick to death of the constant pain. I lie to my husband all the time about my pain. I say it's a good day but it never is. I try to hide how bad it is on bad days but usually get found out. I hate what this has done to me. I led a very physical life for many years. Race horses, training horses, biking etc. I'm only 44 and feel like I'm 80 some days. I take prozac to combat depression and I think if it weren't for that and the loving support of my husband I'd plunge into a serious depression.
Getting a job has been a nightmare. I had a job I dearly loved and was doing very well at for about 4 months this year and was sacked for taking 2 days off for back pain. Now it is harder than ever to get a job.
Argh. I'm so frustrated.

Antonio Brazen Dale said on 11 June 2010

I must agree, there is nothing worse than Back pain and it can be so disabling. Even this morning just getting out the car my back went and I ended up on the floor having to be helped up by strangers.

If only you could get warnings. I so dream of this.

What is nearly as bad as the pain is the un-supportive nature of friends and colleagues.

The nickname "Glassback" starts off as fun but doesn't ease the pain.

aussietango said on 12 May 2010

NICE Guidlines of May 2009 recommended the inclusion of Chiropractic Care as a choice for those suffering with Back Pain. So far within BEN this has not happened. Commisioning side-step / avoid / put-off addressing this. Chiropractic services are offered in other PCT's. This is becoming a lottery - we the under priveledged living under BEN are the losers. This situation needs to change.

mope said on 04 May 2010

There is a gently but incredibly effective therapy for back pain. It originated in Australia, but there are now many practitioners throught the UK.

amanda 81 said on 19 April 2010

i fractured my T#12 in feb 09 n have never got better, i am now on really strong painkillers indefinatly.i also have 2 use my crutchie every day 4 balance aswell. i have recently been bk in hospital because ov this. they found more damage in my disc's n nerves. i am only 29 n hoping that the doctors find something else 2 help me cause the pain can be inbareable some days

Lorraine D said on 22 March 2010

I have suffered with back pain on and off for years and have found the best treatment has been through a Osteopath and Acupuncturist. I have nothing against traditional medicine as I suffer with severe osteoarthritis in my knees and am on long term pain killers for this condition but it never hurts to explore other treatments and if you find a great osteopath as I have you will only be treated for as long as necessary to relieve the pain

jarmila said on 04 February 2010

I suffer lower back pain 1 year almost. As I do a lot of heavy lifting at work I didnt pay much attention. 2 months ago it something blocked in my back and for 2 days I could hardluymove my right leg and right arm. I had very intensive pain along my whole leg and my whole arm. After 2 daysit wasnt so bad, but I feel that pain all the time. It is no so intensive, but it is. 2 weeks ago I started to have shooting pain in my wrists, knees, ankles and fingers and around these areas. I have spasms in my hand and leg sometimes. I have also neck pain and headache which is not very stong but it is constant almost.
I had an appointment with my GP today. I spent in his "office" around 4 minutes. After 4 minutes of typing to PC he said it is muscle pain and he recommend me to take pain killers.
As a child and teenager I practiced a lot of sport so I really know how muscles hurt. This is far away from that.
I am very dissapointed with treatment which I get from my GP. I am in this country almost 2 years, and I registered to GP only 2 weeks ago because the pain is really strong sometimes.
I work here since second day I come to this country and I pay my tax so I supose I should get the same treatment as everyone who was born in this country.
I am not happy with doctors recomendations to take more pain killers. It doesnt help. I dont know what to do next.
If you have any advice I appriciate that. Or any opinion, positive or negative. Thanks

jarmila said on 04 February 2010

I suffer lower back pain almost 1 year. 2 months ago something blocked in my back, and I couldnt move my right leg and arm for 2 days properly. I could feel in my right leg and arm itching and strange pain. Last 2 weeks I have constant pain in my ankles, wrists, knees and fingers. And i suffer by shootin pain around all these joints. Today I had an appointment with the doctor. I live here in England for 2 years and this was my first appointment. Doctor was very kind, our meeting took aproximately 4 minutes and he said it is only musle pain and I should take more pain killers.
I am exhausted by this pain. I dont know what to do next. Pain killers helped only for a while but now they dont help at all.
I do a lot of lifting at my work and as a child and teenager I did a lot of sport so I know really how muscles hurt.
I am VERY dissapointed with my GP treatment. I work here, I pay my tax, and I deserve treatment as anybody else who was born in this country, and I suppose I didn get that kind of treatment.
I am fed up of eating pain killer. My constat pain has some kind of reason, and I wanted to see my doctor for trying him to find out what it is.

By the way I am from Slovakia.
Thanks for your opinion(positive or negative) and advice.

jarmila said on 04 February 2010

I suffer lower back pain almost 1 year. 2 months ago something blocked in my back, and I couldnt move my right leg and arm for 2 days properly. I could feel in my right leg and arm itching and strange pain. Last 2 weeks I have constant pain in my ankles, wrists, knees and fingers. And i suffer by shootin pain around all these joints. Today I had an appointment with the doctor. I live here in England for 2 years and this was my first appointment. Doctor was very kind, our meeting took aproximately 4 minutes and he said it is only musle pain and I should take more pain killers.
I am exhausted by this pain. I dont know what to do next. Pain killers helped only for a while but now they dont help at all.
I do a lot of lifting at my work and as a child and teenager I did a lot of sport so I know really how muscles hurt.
I am VERY dissapointed with my GP treatment. I work here, I pay my tax, and I deserve treatment as anybody else who was born in this country, and I suppose I didn get that kind of treatment.
I am fed up of eating pain killer. My constat pain has some kind of reason, and I wanted to see my doctor for trying him to find out what it is.

By the way I am from Slovakia.
Thanks for your opinion(positive or negative) and advice.

Maria Kh said on 01 February 2010

I had lower back pain on the left side.

The MRI report mentioned sacralization of the L5 as the cause.

Also, the doctor told me that development of a transition vertebrae between L5 and sacrum is the cause.

Would anybody please throw light on how sacralization causes the pain; I mean the mechanism of the pain.

I tried understanding through many websites but couldn't get it cleared.

Thanks.

Jan46 said on 27 October 2009

I have suffered lower back pain for many years then earlier this year under my new GP I finally received the correct diagnosis - Degenerative Disc Disease. The bottom 2 discs have shrunk hence the reason for it becoming more painful over the past few years, I have been prescribed pain killers eventually surgery which really frightens me, I am a single parent of an eight year old & find it very frustrating that I cannot do the things I should be doing with him due to the constant pain. My GP has stated that I have not to do anything that will cause stress on my lower back which is a multitude of things down to carrying shopping due to this every day life/work is becoming a struggle however I just grit my teeth & get on with it the best I can. I have searched various sites re this condition re what other treatment would help ease the pain as I not a fan of taking medication on a daily basis however I am unsure which applies to me as there are varying degrees of this condition, I would be grateful of any advice someone with this condition can give me.

geelamch said on 21 October 2009

i would be interested in any comments on the condition affecting the c2 and c3 discs in the neck area .I had sugery due to a compression in this area around two years ago ,however after initial success it has returned with a vengeance.I cannot afford to take another year from work and would be grateful to hear if any one else has this condition.
i was being treated pre surgery with large doses of morphine however this merely renders you (stupified)
and results in no life quality.
My main symptom is the loss of use of my right arm and subsequent pain ,at 44yrs old with a family and due to my employment i do not know how much longer i can continue .I would love any advice.
geelamch

Charles Tully said on 18 October 2009

I suffered whiplash injuries affecting my neck and lower back and nothing I did in three years helped so I consulted an osteopath who said it was my terrible posture knocked loose by the accident. After clicking things free she started me on Alexander Technique lessons to improve my alignment and to reduce the amount of tension I held which had made things worse. Within a couple of months the pain was history and normal activities resumed.
I don't think people realise the far reaching affects seemingly simple injuries can have and the sooner they are sorted the better.

MarcusMaher said on 13 October 2009

I found sections of these articles very interesting and relevant, thanks.

Ireena said on 03 September 2009

Exercises helps to manage osteoarthritis pain. Exercises are helpful for decrease low back pain, recover faster, prevent re injury to back, and reduce the risk of disability from back pain.
Take your doctor's advice before attempting any exercises, if you are already experiencing back pain.
There is no need of any special equipment for doing exercises to reduce low back pain.and it is also not complicated.
Strong abdominal muscles are helpful in maintaining good posture and keep spine in right position .Exercises stretches and strengthen the muscles of abdomen and spine which prevents back problem.
Lie flat on back. bring your chin to chest, at the same time Hug knees to chest and ,do it for two times for 15 seconds.
By lying on stomach, use your arms to push your upper body off the floor, let your back relax and sag. hold for five seconds.do for 5 times.
Do walking, swimming,bicycling for 20 to 30 minutes in a week for alternate days.
Prone hip extension exercise is done by lying on stomach.with your legs straight out behind you. first tighten up your buttock muscles and then lift one leg off the floor about 5-7 inches.for 4-5 seconds keep your knee straight.then lower your leg and relax.do it for 3 times with another leg.
Avoid such types of exercises like twisting hip,any quick and bouncy movement, lying on stomach with legs extended and lifting together.
Do good activities like swimming,biking,walking,aerobics exercise on machines.

Wilk67 said on 22 August 2009

My 12 year old daughter has been suffering with back pain since January. It's now the end of August - when will she get a diagnosis and treatment? It appears the NHS is not interested in back pain in children - I don't believe prescibing Iboprufen for six weeks is an adequate treatment for a child especially when it doesn't work.

User309562 said on 14 August 2009

MLH22 mad me laugh:-))). You're really right about it. And you have well described upper back pain. I'm experiencing the same for a while. It's complicated. Would be great to have this info here. Thanking you in advance.

MLH22 said on 28 May 2009

How about upper back pain? I have hardly ever seen any video or information on pain in the upper back. Has it got a different term? It certainly is not related to spine as such. The one that is due to weakness or muscles or nerves around the area starting from neck through shoulders down to where the rib ends. It would be nice to know how to keep that part healthier and not sprain it every now and then. thanks,

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