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I don't think there should be any detail about Back Tor as it is a completely different summit, about two miles away along the ridge. It should have its own page. Jimdavid 07:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Tend to agree, but where do we stop. Does every minor peak get a separate Wiki entry?. It is I concede a fairly distinctive top, but no more than Thorpe Cloud above Dovedale, which has to make do with a passing reference in the the River Dove article. I suggest you could make a redirect into the Mam Tor article for now.Linuxlad 08:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
There are many great walks up Mam Tor, each with it's own distinctive route. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.117.228 (talk) 09:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This sounds apocryphal at best. You are talking at least 100km, from an elevation of 500m. Even Manchester requires good conditions; Snowdonia is surely impossible.Gunstar hero (talk) 20:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Not impossible (though I see the mention of Snowdonia was removed anyway). See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/329077 (albeit that photo is taken from Bleaklow - by me :)). Dave.Dunford (talk) 20:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I've done a bit more research, and it appears that although views from Mam Tor of the Snowdon massif itself are obstructed by Rushup Edge and/or Kinder Scout, Arenig Fawr is theoretically visible; see this computer-generated panorama (250°). But I don't necessarily think that means the mention of Snowdonia being visible should go back in to the Mam Tor article; it's hardly important to the subject, and visibility has to be really good, if my experiences elsewhere in the Peak District are anything to go by. Dave.Dunford (talk) 20:21, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If Merrick is visible from Snowdon, as the Snowdon article itself claims (with a reference - albeit not one I've checked!), then I think in theory a hill the height of Mam Tor could also be visible at a much smaller distance from Snowdon than Merrick is - it all depends on line of sight. Although I think Kinder is too much to the north to be in the way, Rushup Edge probably is indeed a bit of a block. Actually it's surprising what can be seen from hills of this size - I can personally vouch for the cranes on the Mersey being easily visible (25 years ago) from Shutlingsloe. But I agree that a mention of views to Wales from Mam Tor is hardly warranted in this article; aside from anything else, I think most visitors to the summit tend to look mostly the other way - to Kinder, Edale and the Hope Valley with its rather obvious cement works.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:24, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]