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Hi friends, I came to this page because I was looking in to some different religious/environmental orgs for personal reasons and realized that this page is in need of some help. It's been... a minute since I edited Wikipedia, does anyone want to help me out or at least help with the copyright stuff? I really don't want to mess that up. Kmwebber (talk)Kmwebber

Footnote "[6]" does not seem to be working [the way I would 'expect']

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This comment is "as of" [it is "based upon"] the "Latest revision as of 14:58, 27 September 2023" version of this ("Hazon") article.

Before I actually clicked on footnote number "[6]", I had already formed an expectation of what I thought was probably going to happen. When I "hovered" my mouse pointer over the initial hyperlink in that footnote -- [displayed as "Mission & Vision" by my ('Google Chrome') web browser] -- I saw displayed (as usual) down near the bottom of my screen, [in a small font, and with a gray background], a little "preview" of [what I assumed was] the "href" field value in the hyperlink.

That little "preview" said: "https://hazon.org/about/mission-vision/", which ... was not surprising, since ... if you look at [the wikitext of] the "ref" tag for that footnote, the entire thing amounts to

<ref>{{Cite web|title=Mission & Vision|url=https://hazon.org/about/mission-vision/|access-date=2020-08-20|website=Hazon|language=en-US}}</ref>

so ... the displayed "preview" was pretty much what one would expect. It was the same as the URL (the value of the "url" field) in the "ref" tag for that footnote. Namely, it was

https://hazon.org/about/mission-vision/

However, when I clicked on that initial hyperlink in that footnote, there seemed to be some kind of "ReDirect" or "auto forwarding" taking place! It did not go to (well... at least ... it did not wind up at) the URL shown above. Instead, it wound up at a "destination" web page that "self identified" as being at the URL https://adamah.org/about-adamah/ which ... is not what I expected.

Now, that might be OK, e.g. if there has been -- (since the last time that hyperlink seemed to actually work "normally") -- some kind of a "name change", or a merger (or a spin-off) of the organization[s]. I realize that an organization -- including a nonprofit one, in some cases, can -- it is possible -- merge with or "acquire" another organization, or it can "spin off" part of itself as a newly independent 'separate' organization, ... *and* I guess it can even change its name, with or without undergoing one of those "example" changes like the ones mentioned, that are possible.

So, if something like that did happen (it has been a long time since this article was updated; if you don't count an update made by a bot, then ... it has been over a year) then it might be quite plausible that the hyperlink in this footnote did undergo a change of some kind ... perhaps becoming (something "similar to") a dead link.

(Actually, a typical dead link does not just go to -- (or, wind up at) -- a different URL from what was in the "href" field [value] of the hyperlink; the canonical example is [more like], that you just get a "404 -- Not Found" error message. But, what happened here -- winding up at a different URL than what I expected -- might still be considered to be kinda "similar to" a dead link situation.)

I do not know why it happened; and it 'might' not be a big deal. But, if some explanation can be found, for why it seems to wind up at a "destination" web page that "self identifies" as being "at" the URL https://adamah.org/about-adamah/, then ... it might be time to at least "consider" making an update to the "ref" tag for [what is now] footnote number [6].

Thanks for listening. Mike Schwartz (talk) 05:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]