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Chinese BASIC[edit]

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Fails WP:NSOFT. I could not find any reliable source. Mfixerer (talk) 21:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. "Chinese Basic". Australian Personal Computer. Vol. 3, no. 11. November 1982. p. 11. Retrieved 2024-07-01 – via Internet Archive.
  The article notes: "Chinese Basic. The hieroglyphics shown here are actually standard Basic code, displayed in Chinese, and the product which produces them has been launched by Multitech Industrial Corporation in the Chinese island of Taiwan. Originally produced to help Taiwanese (who didn't speak English) to learn Basic programming, the product is now being sold to other non-English speaking peoples—or to English-speaking computer builders who wish to sell to them."
2. Zhao, Rong-Yao; Pu, Hao-Zhe (1976). "Development of a Chinese BASIC compiler". Proceedings of the National Computer Symposium of the Republic of China 1976. National Taiwan University.
  The citation is listed here.
3. Stefans, Brian Kim (2017). Word Toys: Poetry and Technics. Tuscaloosa, Alabama: University of Alabama Press. p. 223. ISBN 978-0-8173-5895-2. Retrieved 2024-07-01 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "Even before the advent of esolangs, attempts were made to create programming languages in Chinese and other Asian languages. Notable is Chinese BASIC, invented in the early eighties, which permitted within the same program Chinese ideograms, English letters, and abbreviated commands (such as “?” for “PRINT”). Inputting Chinese into a keyboard is something of a science in itself, as elements of ideograms, such as the radical or a geometric element (the shape of a box, for example) of characters related by a complex set of "decomposition rules" have to be mapped out over a QWERTY keyboard. Cangjie is based on the graphological aspect of the characters: each graphical unit is represented by a character component, twenty-four in all, each mapped to a particular letter key on a standard QWERTY keyboard. An additional “difficult character" function is mapped to the X key."
4. Lee, Jinn-Bao (1982). A Curriculum Model for Computer Literacy in Taiwan (PhD thesis). Texas A&M University. ProQuest 303265003.
  The PhD thesis notes: "As to the type of programming languages for the computer literacy instruction, Chinese BASIC was most frequently recommended by the high school principals while English BASIC was suggested by a majority of both the department heads and the industrialists. Other languages were recommended less frequently."
5. "伙計中文培基語言來啦" [Mate, Chinese BASIC language is coming]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). 1987-10-24. p. 10.
  The article notes: "找國第一套中文培基語言已由經智資訊公司開發成功，這套命名為伙計的中文培基語言，可直接用中文使用，對學習程式相當方便，將有助於國內資訊教育的推廣。"
  From Google Translate: "The country's first set of Chinese BASIC languages has been successfully developed by Jingzhi Information Company. This set of Chinese training languages named Buddy can be used directly in Chinese. It is very convenient for learning programs and will contribute to the promotion of domestic information education."
6. "廣智產多項套裝軟體分依特性擬人化命名" [Guangzhi produces multiple software packages. Anthropomorphic naming based on characteristics]. Economic Daily News [zh] (in Chinese). 1989-03-06. p. 24.
  The article notes: "「伙計」是第一套中文培基直譯器（BASIC Interpreter），擁有GW-BASIC完全相容的標準功能，並增加賀克（Hercules）卡繪圖能力，提供真正的中文使用環境。"
  From Google Translate: ""Buddy" is the first set of Chinese BASIC Interpreter, which has standard functions that are fully compatible with GW-BASIC, and adds Hercules card drawing capabilities, providing a true Chinese usage environment."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Chinese BASIC (Chinese: 中文培基) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 11:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Qingyun[edit]

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Non-notable skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:48, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of battles in Kinmen[edit]

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Similarly to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Penghu, I don't see the reason why this would be its own article, as opposed to the conflicts being covered in the Kinmen article (where they are already covered). toweli (talk) 07:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agree with nom. WP:SALAT and WP:NOTDIRECTORY per previous discussion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 10:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with nom. Unneeded content fork, and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Kierzek (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a sort of set index page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No need of this index. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration[edit]

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already have Li Keqiang Government & China under Xi Jinping Coddlebean (talk) 08:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep: WP:CSK#3. Those three articles are obviously about different topics. Li Keqiang Government refers only to the composition of the State Council of the People's Republic of China after the 12th (2013-2018) and 13th (2018-2023) National People's Congress. China under Xi Jinping covers the socio-political governance and influence of China during Xi's chairmanship, which extends past 2023 as Xi remains Chairman after the 14th National People's Congress. The subject article is about the Fifth Generations of Chinese leadership, which is a common term coined for categorizing distinct periods of communist leaderships and inherited from the Hu–Wen Administration. In other words, the article is about political institutions of China during the combined rule of Xi and Li from the period 2013-2023, which discusses the distribution and swift of power between Xi and Li during their governance. A simple BEFORE already shows the broad usage and actual meaning of this term, and the nominator (once again) did not provide a deletion rationale grounded in Wikipedia guidelines. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: as above. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per Prince of Erebor. Agree that WP:CSK#3 applies. Sal2100 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Li Keqiang Government is the Central People's Government of China from 15 March 2013, when Premier Li Keqiang took office, until March 2023, while Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration is the administration of China from 2013 to 2023. Both articles list the State Council members, and do little else; it's not obvious that the articles should not be merged. (I agree that China under Xi Jinping is clearly very different). Walsh90210 (talk) 01:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Walsh90210: Not really, they are quite distinctive. The key difference is that the subject article includes details about the distribution of power between Xi and Li, which Li Keqiang Government would and should not cover. Another distinction is that the discussion/analysis of this term usually focuses on the power shift from a more equally distributed structure to one more heavily leaning towards Xi, as well as the conflicts between Xi and Li's policies and governance. This is clearly differentiated from Li Keqiang government again, which solely covers the administrative structure of the State Council. Rather than a merge, this article requires an expansion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No.3 Middle School Of Lingshan[edit]

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Pure vandalism, cross-wiki abuse, the article with the same name in Chinese Wikipedia was deleted by a sysop. Allervous (talk) 02:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Thank you for reporting this, Allervous (talk · contribs). Here are the sources listed in the article:
1. Website: https://lcsz.pages.dev/
2. "立志存高远腾龙震乾坤_科教文体_校园天地_今日广西". 广西新闻. 2024-03-24. Retrieved 2024-06-10.
3. "寻找灵山"最美中学"，老乡们快来看看有你的母校吗?_办学". www.sohu.com. Retrieved 2024-06-21.
4. 倪峥 (2023). 学校德育制度变迁研究 - 以广西某中学为例. 福建: 福建教育出版社. ISBN 9787533496418.
5. 中共广西壮族自治区委员会党史研究室 (2021). 中国共产党广西历史. 中共党史出版社. ISBN 9787509857328.
6. 施丹宁 (2023). 从传统到现代：广西教育的转型与创新. 广西教育出版社. ISBN 9787543538474.
7. "灵城第三中学官网". 灵城第三中学官网. Retrieved 2024-06-22.
8. 刘世济. 广西教育的军事化管理研究与参考. 广西: 广西教育出版社. pp. 11–12. ISBN 9787543546578.
Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The creator, zh:Special:Contributions/鸡景行, was blocked on the Chinese Wikipedia for "純粹破壞：屢次增加沒有來源的不實資料：見用戶提報。製造不實資訊：靈山縣靈城第三中學。並非在此建設百科全書。" This is translated to "Pure destruction: repeatedly adding false information without sources: see user reports. Producing false information: Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School in Lingshan County. This is not the place to build an encyclopedia."

The block discussion is here. Here is a Google Translate of that discussion:

Extended content

鸡景行

鸡景行 (Discussion · Contributions · Log [Ban · Filter] · Global Account Information)

Just making it up.

The school’s official website is suspected to be a website built by the editor.
The school emblem and school song are suspected to be composed by the editor. The entry states that the school song from 2024 will be "People from No. 3 Middle School Pursuing the Other Sun" and the audio file is uploaded. However, according to [1], the school song in March 2024 will be "Brilliant Talents Grow in Lixiang".
The chapter "School History" is completely inconsistent with [2] "Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School was founded in November 2001 and was renamed Lingshan County Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School in December 2011."
The school motto "Inspiring students to study hard and pursue excellence" should be "Study diligently and achieve excellence" ([3]), and the philosophy "Let students be admitted to good high schools and make students become obedient and good children" should be "education with ideals" To realize the ideal of education” ([4])
"Internet Censorship" is an entire chapter of original research and fictitious reference materials. The ISBN of "Research and Reference on the Militarized Management of Education in Guangxi" is found to be a Chinese textbook for the first volume of ninth grade.
User:鸡景行 also translated the entries into English Wiki and Cantonese Wiki.

Discovered by: Kcx36 (Message) 17:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

zh:Special:Diff/82824332/83166384, suspected to be imitating Zhemao. --Kcx36 (Message) 17:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cantonese Wikipedia may also have to assist in the cleanup - Qiancun Foxtu (leave a message) 23:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cross-wiki vandalism, I have deleted the disruptive content from the English Wikipedia, and I recommend that the user be submitted to a global lockout. --Allervous Hatsune MikuのセーラーServer 02:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

zh:User:鸡景行/钟娟章, seems to be pranking his teacher. --Kcx36 (Message) 17:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

pages.dev is Cloudflare Pages. It is hard to believe that this is the official website of the school. --HeihaHeihaHa-Muggle... (Message) 17:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In these edits, the article creator gave a barnstar to User:折毛, who was blocked for the hoaxes described in the Wikipedia article Zhemao hoaxes and was the subject of this declined arbitration case request in 2022. Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the analysis I posted above. This editor gave a barnstar to an editor who created numerous hoaxes (Zhemao hoaxes and Wikipedia:Fabricated articles and hoaxes of Russia in 2022) after creating an English Wikipedia article that was deleted on the Chinese Wikipedia for being a hoax. Delete per Wikipedia:Do not create hoaxes and Wikipedia:Vandalism#Hoaxing vandalism. Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I started Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:鸡景行 and suspected hoax article. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A school with the name "灵山县灵城第三中学" (No.3 Middle School Of Lingshan) is mentioned here in The Paper and here on gxnu.edu.cn. The school likely exists though I've been able to find very little coverage of it. According to the Chinese Wikipedia editors' analysis, the article contains false information and fabricated sources. Cunard (talk) 11:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to your advice, I think the article should first be deleted and then re-created. Allervous (talk) 12:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, TNT, likely hoax. -Lemonaka 02:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, seems to be a hoax based on the page creator's block summary. The Wikipedia policy for hoaxes, per WP:G3, is to delete them (although you already know that) 24.115.255.37 (talk) 02:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged for deletion (G3) As it's pretty clear from evidence here that this is a hoax made by a Zhemao follower or something. I'm assuming there's consensus for deletion, and this hoax is pretty blatant, so let's not waste time here. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 13:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Snow delete (I'd have speedied, but it was just declined). Clear hoax, if school is notable it can be re-created with legit sourcing and information. FWIW, if Cunard !votes Delete, there is no hope of salvaging an article's content and there's no one I know with better assessment of Chinese-language sourcing. Star Mississippi 22:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Star Mississippi I'm a little bit familiar with Chinese.

https://lcsz.pages.dev/ is likely to be a website written by the one who created the hoax.
This source noticed No.3_Middle_School_Of_Lingshan, however, it's just about some events host on that school previously
Unreachable source
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They cite a book about "the history of Chinese Communism Party in Guang Xi", how can this book has anything related to a school
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The site built by vandals
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-Lemonaka 12:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The website you mentioned is probably created by the user 鸡景行, because I didn't find any info about the school's homepage on Baidu, and most Chinese school website has .edu (second-level domain) and ended with top-level demain .cn (Sometimes ended with .com). Also, the coat of arms is very rough.

There may be local factbook like "灵山县志:1995-2005 [Lingshan County History Factbook:1995-2005]. OCLC 1336361481." that notice the existence of Lingshan NO.3 school, but I couldn't get the content. To avoid further abuse, the article should be deleted. Allervous (talk) 00:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete as nonverifiable. - Altenmann >talk 18:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[1] and The Sun[2]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[3], Wen Wei Po[4], and She.com [zh][5]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [6], Ming Pao[7], HK01 [8], and Oriental Daily News[9]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([10] and [11]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][12], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since about a week has passed but the nominator did not further elaborate on the deletion rationale, the current nomination statement is based on WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST instead of notability guidelines, and I think it should be considered Speedy Keep per WP:CSK#1. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qiu Shi Science and Technology Prize[edit]

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Article from 2012 tagged for speedy deletion 12 years later as unambiguous advertising (criterion G11). The article does contain some promotional language (e.g. "The Qiu Shi Foundation was named after the famous Qiu Shi Academy" and "Cha was best known for his industrial prowess, building a multinational textile conglomerate.") but this is mostly a stub article on a Chinese research prize where there are some examples of the awards being newsworthy, see e.g. [13]. However, while the awards have made it into some news articles, I am unable to determine the independence or reliability of these sources, and none of them are cited in the current article. The sources I have found are also much more about the person receiving the award than the award itself. While the promotional language is not severe enough for it to warrant a speedy deletion, I am bringing it to AFD and recommending delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Shen, Alice (2018-09-17). "Science prizes put technological innovation at the heart of China's progress. Prestigious Hong Kong science foundation rewards the brightest and the best". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "A chemist from mainland China has won a major Hong Kong science prize for his leading global research in the field of bio-inspired nano-materials, highlighting China’s pledge to become an innovation hub in its own right. Jiang Lei received a grant of one million yuan (US$150,000) as winner of the Qiu Shi outstanding scientist award at a ceremony on Saturday night at the University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei, Anhui province. ... The prestigious Qiu Shi annual awards – qiu shi means “quest for truth” – was established by the late Hong Kong industrialist and philanthropist Cha Chi-ming, father of Payson Cha Mou-sing, in 1994 and features Nobel laureate Yang Zhenning on its judging panel. Previous Qiu Shi Award winners include Tu Youyou, who went on to receive the Nobel Prize in medicine for the discovery of artemisinin, saving millions of lives from malaria; Pan Jianwei, who later led the launch of the world’s first quantum satellite; and Zhang Yitang, who proved a theorem that had eluded mathematicians for more than a century. This year, in addition to the main prize, 12 outstanding young scientists were each awarded a US$90,000 grant, over three years, in recognition of their returning to China, with all their scientific potential, after overseas education or employment. ... This year, the number of recipients of the outstanding young scientist prize grew from 10 to 12, in line with the foundation’s aim of luring more talent back to China."
2. "People's Daily article". People's Daily. 2005. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Google Books.
  The article notes: "“求是杰出科学家奖”由香港求是科技基金会的设,这一基金会由查济民及其家族于 1994 年捐资 2000 万美元设立表基金会奖项其后每年评选颁发次,致力于奖励科技领域有成就的中国科技人才,努力推动国家科技进步,已累计奖励了包括“两弹元助"和"神舟五号功臣在内的数百位杰出科学家和 35 岁的潘建伟教授在量子信息论和量子基本问题等世界学术前沿领域取得的一系列开创性成果,"
  From Google Translate: "The "Qiushi Outstanding Scientist Award" was established by the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation, which was established by Cha Jimin and his family in 1994 with a donation of US$20 million. Chinese scientific and technological talents who have made achievements in the field of science and technology have worked hard to promote national scientific and technological progress, and have accumulated awards to hundreds of outstanding scientists including the "Two Bomb Yuanzhu" and "Shenzhou 5 Heroes" and 35-year-old Professor Pan Jianwei for his research in quantum information theory and A series of pioneering achievements in the world's academic frontier fields such as fundamental quantum problems, ..."
3. Li, Lixia 李丽霞 (2019-09-22). Zhang, Yu 张玉 (ed.). "杨振宁获求是终身成就奖系史上第二位该奖得主" [Yang Zhenning wins Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Award, becoming the second winner in history]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "据悉，香港求是科技基金会1994年由著名爱国实业家査济民先生创立，秉持“雪中送炭”的宗旨，积极坚持和倡导“科学精神，人文情怀”的核心理念。1994至2019年，共有358位在数学、物理、化学、生物医学及工程信息等科技领域中有杰出成就的中国科学家获得基金会奖励。其中“求是终身成就奖”2位，“杰出科学家奖”31位、“杰出青年学者奖”192位、以及 “杰出科技成就集体奖” 133位（涉及16个重大科研项目，如青蒿素、人工合成牛胰岛素、塔里木盆地沙漠治理、铁基超导、神舟飞船等）。"
  From Google Translate: "It is reported that the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation was founded in 1994 by Mr. Cha Jimin, a famous patriotic industrialist. Adhering to the purpose of "providing timely assistance", it actively adheres to and advocates the core concept of "scientific spirit and humanistic feelings". From 1994 to 2019, a total of 358 Chinese scientists with outstanding achievements in science and technology fields such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, biomedicine and engineering information received awards from the foundation. Among them, there are 2 "Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Awards", 31 "Outstanding Scientist Awards", 192 "Outstanding Young Scholar Awards", and 133 "Outstanding Scientific and Technological Achievement Group Awards" (involving 16 major scientific research projects, such as artemisinin, synthetic bovine insulin, Tarim Basin desert control, iron-based superconductors, Shenzhou spacecraft, etc.)."
4. Zhu, Lixin (2015-09-20). "TCM doctor receives 'grand award' from Qiu Shi foundation". China Daily. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "An 83-year-old Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor was among recipients of Hong Kong Qiu Shi Science and Technologies Foundation awards on Saturday. ... The Outstanding Scientific Research Team Award went to the Hepatitis E Vaccine team from Xiamen University，which invented the world’s first recombinant Hepatitis E Vaccine and made it available on the market in 2012. Ten other young scientists from seven universities and institutes received the Outstanding Young Scholar Award."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Qiu Shi Awards (simplified Chinese: 求是奖; traditional Chinese: 求是獎) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Cunard did a very thorough search of sources. However, I found the nominator's main concern is that many of the sources are about the award ceremonies and awardees, rather than the award itself. While the South China Morning Post and People's Daily sources provided by Cunard are indeed about the award itself, The Beijing News and China Daily sources seem to fall under what the nominator would consider as non-independent sources. Therefore, I found two additional sources from Guang Ming Daily[14] and Ta Kung Pao[15] which documented the founding of the award, and I believe these should be adequate to address the nominator's concerns. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 official visit by Shehbaz Sharif to China[edit]

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WP:NOTNEWS. WP considers the enduring notability of events and its WP:TOOSOON to determine enduring historical significance or widespread impact of this visit. Saqib (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The content of this articles meets the criteria for inclusion and meet WP:N. The remover Saqib WP:POINT, did not communicate directly with the creator (me) about how to "improve" this articles. Instead, after I continued to add numerous reliable sources, Saqib decided to simply delete it, which also violates WP:FAITH. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 23:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- TinaLees-Jones, But the problem here is that the article just doesn't meet the WP:N. It's not about needing improvement; it's about meeting the criteria for inclusion on WP. And just so you know, I don't need anyone's permission to nominate articles for deletion. Still, I do want to acknowledge the effort you've put into creating this article. — Saqib (talk) 06:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - User:Saqib: the first thing that needs to be emphasized is that the friendly relations between Pakistan and China are dependent on the exchange of visits by top leaders, the official visits themselves, especially since both Pakistan and China, both with hundreds of millions of people, are equipped with attention (WP:N). It's not a vlogger with millions of followers releasing a new song, it's not a visit by a minister or a senator, it's an official diplomatic event representing the will of the nations. I'm not fully aware of Pakistan's internal political tensions, and I don't really care what a specific Pakistani editor's favorites are for specific politicians. WP:N is judged on the basis of facts and sources, and if a visit lacks official coverage from both sides, then it naturally lacks attention. If the Western media also be aware of, then this proves that the event has really touched some people's interests, which strengthens the basis of WP:N. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - As far as Nawaz Sharif's visits to China are concerned, there have been five in total, one in July 2013, one in April 2014 (to attend Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia), one in November 2014 to attend APEC 2014, one in 2015 December 2015 SCO, and once in May 2017 at the 2017 Belt and Road Forum. then the correct way would have been to write the 2013 official visit by Nawaz Sharif to China as an independent article, with the rest to be merged into the corresponding conference ones, and if I am happy I would write it later. The correct editorial logic, however, is that diplomacy is all about reciprocal visits, and entries on reciprocal visits that corroborate each other add to the credibility and readability of the articles - one by one, gradually. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - TinaLees-Jones, Notability is not temporary and WP:LASTING states An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable. State visits are usually routine and we've no way of knowing if this particular visit will be historically significant or even momentous event, since the history hasn't been written yet. All we have are some news reports, which are WP:ROTM coverage. Nor this visit yielded any significant outcome or significant effect on the Pak-China relation so I think that it's just like another routine state visit without enduring significance and so clearly fails WP:NEVENT. The press coverage of this official visit doesn't automatically fulfill the requirements of WP:NEVENT. I won't delve into this further. I feel I've expressed my perspective adequately so now I'll leave it to others to make their own assessments. — Saqib (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Very weak keep. This is a rare case where I believe WP:ROUTINE applies. All state visits are covered extensively in Chinese media. However, the Al Jazeera and Reuters sources make it hard for me to !vote delete in good faith. Toadspike [Talk] 04:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Toadspike, But I don't really see anything particularly extraordinary about this visit. Take, for example, Nawaz Sharif's visit to China back in 2014. That was a big deal because it kicked off the CPEC project in Pakistan, which was worth billions! But we don't even have an article about that visit. So, why should we have one for Shahbaz's recent trip which was a pretty routine stuff. WP isn't a newspaper, right? — Saqib (talk) 06:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I don't see anything particularly extraordinary either, but the significant coverage in Al Jazeera and Reuters, which are not based in Pakistan or China, makes it seem vaguely notable. Your other argument is just WP:OTHERSTUFF. I already marked my !vote as "very weak" and the closer will interpret it accordingly, what more do you want? Toadspike [Talk] 06:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Saqib. - Amigao (talk) 03:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect (or merge) to China–Pakistan relations. The nom is right, the article violates WP:NOTNEWS and we have no WP:SUSTAINED coverage due to this visit being way too recent. It may or may not gather sufficient coverage to justify keeping the article in the future, but as it currently stands, it is not suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia as a standalone article. Pilaz (talk) 17:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A non-notable visit. Not deserving a page on Wikipedia. Would not argue against a Redirect (or merge) as an alternate to deletion -- which equals it does not deserve a page. The event was not significant and did not precede any other notable event that resulted from the visit. In this case the article fails the Inclusion criteria #4, lacking "enduring significance". The event was just routine and the new coverage was just news of the event with no lasting historical significance. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hong Kong related deletions[edit]

Paulius Stankevicius[edit]

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No indication of importance. I have a degree, I founded a small consultancy, I wrote some articles, I wrote a book. BrigadierG (talk) 10:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[16] and The Sun[17]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[18], Wen Wei Po[19], and She.com [zh][20]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [21], Ming Pao[22], HK01 [23], and Oriental Daily News[24]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([25] and [26]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][27], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since about a week has passed but the nominator did not further elaborate on the deletion rationale, the current nomination statement is based on WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST instead of notability guidelines, and I think it should be considered Speedy Keep per WP:CSK#1. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan related deletions[edit]

List of battles in Kinmen[edit]

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Similarly to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Penghu, I don't see the reason why this would be its own article, as opposed to the conflicts being covered in the Kinmen article (where they are already covered). toweli (talk) 07:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agree with nom. WP:SALAT and WP:NOTDIRECTORY per previous discussion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 10:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with nom. Unneeded content fork, and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Kierzek (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a sort of set index page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No need of this index. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[28] and The Sun[29]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[30], Wen Wei Po[31], and She.com [zh][32]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [33], Ming Pao[34], HK01 [35], and Oriental Daily News[36]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([37] and [38]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][39], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since about a week has passed but the nominator did not further elaborate on the deletion rationale, the current nomination statement is based on WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST instead of notability guidelines, and I think it should be considered Speedy Keep per WP:CSK#1. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]