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June 5[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 5, 2024.

Wikipedia:BOOKLINKS[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 12:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of two shortcuts for the same section. It is little used (41 incoming links), and the title is vague.

It could plausibly be used for the current targets:

It could plausibly also be used for future sections of:

Daask (talk) 21:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Way too much of a choice abstain. Moxy🍁 21:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong with just leaving this alone? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excessive shortcuts make them less memorable, so there's some benefit to reducing the number in general. As I said, I find this particular one to have a particularly ambiguous name. Daask (talk) 23:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Shortcuts having (potentially) ambiguous names is not a problem in itself (just look at every single character one and most two character ones for starters) and only becomes a problem if editors are actually misusing it practice and a hatnote cannot resolve the problems. Secondly, having more shortcuts than needed is also not a problem - there is no requirement to advertise all of them and people can use whichever they personally prefer. So you've not actually given any reason why this is problematic. Thryduulf (talk) 09:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I find the idea that excessive shortcuts (are) less memorable... flawed.
  • Are you saying that having fifteen shortcuts makes it hard for someone to remember any of them while trying to cite them? Because that's not the case-- people tend to just grab their favorite and only remember that one (for example, when citing Wikipedia:Redirects in languages other than English I will typically always use the shortcut WP:RLANG.)
  • Are you saying that having fifteen shortcuts makes it hard for someone to remember what shortcuts mean when someone else cites them? Because that's not an issue, either. If you run across an unfamiliar shortcut, just... click it and follow it. For example, say someone used the shortcut WP:RFFL and I had no idea what it meant. All I would need to do is click it, and see that it takes me to Wikipedia:Redirects in languages other than English, and then I'll go, "Oh, okay, it's WP:RLANG."
As for the idea that the title is vague... yeah, that's nothing new, either, many shortcuts are vague and/or imply something unsupported by the actual article they link to. We even have an entire essay on the books, WP:UPPERCASE, reminding editors to actually read the articles linked to by shortcuts, in order to check and make sure that they actually support the points they're cited for. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Tom (programming language)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 17#Tom (programming language)

Macra (rivers)[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was no consensus for Macra (rivers), delete Macra (rivers) (disambiguation). -- Tavix (talk) 18:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see, there's only one river known (in Roman times) as Macra, and that's Magra (and even that claim is unsourced). I've removed a claim at the translated page Maira (river) because it isn't present in the source of the translation [[1]]. And anyway Macra (river) is red, so delete both these redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Karli Smith[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Karli Smith

Stubby (Pokémon)[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 18:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

funny, but i found nothing suggesting that this was ever even speculated to be its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it just occurred to me that "stubby" is an actual word
which means i should look for any mention of a bidoof with that nickname, which is worse than looking for a pokémon with that name for its species cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Checked Bulbapedia. According to them, while there are no in-game trades featuring a Bidoof named Stubby in any generation, in the Sinnoh games, you can enter a Super Contest and end up facing down a Pokemon with the nickname "Stubby."
The issue is that Stubby is a Barboach, not a Bidoof. This is true in both Gen 4 and Gen 8. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Doing some edit history sleuthing it looks like the original redirect came from pokemon fans reading a (blurry pre-release leaked?) photo of bidoof, and seeing the word "stubby". See Talk:Bidoof#Bidoof and Stubby. The Bidoof article was briefly moved over to Stubby, then moved back when the name "Bidoof" was officially confirmed. Seeing as the redirect was based on WP:OR, it doesn't seem to be getting any use, and the fact there's another pokemon related to the name "stubby" (as Lunamann pointed out above), it should be deleted. BugGhost🪲👻 09:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Magburn[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 17#Magburn

Arzeus[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 12:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

may admittedly be jumping the gun here. this doesn't seem similar to any possible spelling or pronunciation of its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It's a single character "typo" (really, an alternative spelling). The page history indicates that the name was originally spelled Arseus. Also, Cogsan, RFD#KEEP says that Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. This redirect was created in 2006 (~18 years ago). It's always best to leave these elderly redirects alone unless there is a serious problem (e.g., the wording of the link itself violates BLP ["Bob is a poopy head"]) or if you want agreement to turn the redirect into an article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    i kind of don't really buy it being old or possibly linked somewhere else as a possible reason to keep it, since there seems to be no precedent to or acknowledgement of this particular spelling or pronunciation that doesn't involve jumping through a few hoops
    either way, i looked into the time each page was created, moved, or whatever else, and the first name i could see created here was "aruseus", created on september 30, 2006, which was moved to "arseus" on october 2, 2006 (over the romaji being trademarked), and then to "arceus" in march 14, 2007 (over the name finally being confirmed). arzeus was created as a redirect to arseus in december 1, 2006, the day after aruseus was created. i don't know what this is supposed to imply other than "arzeus" being a phonetic spelling of a possible mispronunciation of a then only possible romaji spelling of its japanese name (which would require having never heard "セ" being used) that may have been used for a while before people were 100% sure that that was at least not one of the 3-ish possible ways to pronounce it in english, so i guess change my vote to a very confused weak keep per "i think it could have been used before, maybe". i'm not sure if this counts as wp:cheap, to be honest cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 00:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per WhatamIdoing; this satisfies the burden of plausibility posed by WP:RTYPO (a single-character 'typo' redirect should be kept), and also satisfies the burden of age posed by WP:RFD#KEEP. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Plausible typo, old, per above. Reminder that redirects are WP:CHEAP. Fieari (talk) 02:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Zoznam.sk[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 18:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect to Seznam.cz seems inappropriate given that these are two completely different websites. Zoznam.sk looks more like a tabloid than independent source, and I can't find any evidence that both sites are owned by the same agency/publisher. I would suggest to delete and leave as an empty page until someone did a research about the site with proper references. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Croangunk[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus that this is a plausible mishearing. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 08:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

implausible misspelling? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Plausible typo of a single character, and possibly a plausible mishearing/"mondegreen". My experience is that English phonetics does tend towards inserting medial n's at syllable boundaries which could lead to this mistake. Regardless, WP:CHEAP applies. Fieari (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Bunkin Bonuts[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo. Created by same user as #Geegle Earth below. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Untitled Guy Ritchie project/film[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 17:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Target no longer untitled. After almost 2 months since the previous nomination, the page views for both redirects are incredibly minimal. Delete both per WP:UFILM. Steel1943 (talk) 15:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Untitled Beetlejuice sequel[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 12#Untitled Beetlejuice sequel

LGBTP[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See page history. It's clearly not the creator's intention but this redirect implies Wikipedia considers the title to be an alternative term for LGBT, which is extremely undesirable to say the least. J947 ‡ edits 02:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as per lizthegrey only if the information Liz mentions is added to the article. If not, delete as per Maplestrip/Mable. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Fact check: The LGBTQ community is not adding "P" to their acronym". Reuters. 2 June 2020. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
  2. ^ Caldera, Camille (30 July 2020). "Fact check: LGBTQ community rejects false association with pedophiles". USA TODAY. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
  3. ^ Artavia, David (30 July 2020). "Trolls Push Fake Acronym 'LGBTP' to Associate Gays With Pedophilia". www.advocate.com. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Geegle Earth[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 04:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely typo. Created by same user as Geegle earth, which was deleted in 2020. Mia Mahey (talk) 02:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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