Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 June 18

18 June 2024[edit]

Miskin Abdal[edit]

Miskin_Abdal (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

Hello, I noticed that deletion of this article was closed with no consensus. This is very surprising to me. I have spent three days to investigate it and came to conclusion that it was a hoax. Moreover, the statement in its first paragraph is completely wrong. Please reconsider your decision or provide reason(s) for keeping that article which is full of false statements. HeritageGuardian (talk) 22:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — HeritageGuardian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

• Endorse No consensus is really the only way to close that deletion discussion. Those who advocated for keeping made good arguments that the topic might meet GNG, even though it was sock-created, and most of the unsourced content has already been removed. This is not the second round of discussing whether an article should be deleted, but is rather reviewing whether the closer acted correctly. SportingFlyer T·C 22:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Even after the unsourced content was removed, the first paragraph contains false statement. By simple citing a book, which does not cite any other sources, the person in the article cannot be appointed as a head of foreign affairs in early Safavid dynasty. So, the article contains false information. Regarding GNG, the same content was published in multiple mediums to create notability. None of them cited any Safavid literature. Therefore, they cannot be considered as if the article met GNG. HeritageGuardian (talk) 23:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — HeritageGuardian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  One more thing. I noticed that en.wikipedia.org already has separate pages for persons who was in charge of foreign affairs in early Safavid dynasty starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_Najm_Zargar_Gilani. In there, there is a link to his successor and so on. Therefore, even if the person in the article for deletion was one of them, then there is no need to create duplicate pages for the same person. hth. thx HeritageGuardian (talk) 00:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — HeritageGuardian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  I have checked condition for GNG one more time. One of the requirements is "Reliable-- means that sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. ..." I have already discussed this in the deletion page that this requirement was not met. Therefore GNG was not met for this article at all. I also asked and commented on suggestions of those users who stated that it meets GNG. I am not going to repeat them here. Please be objective and pay attention to arguments put forward. Please avoid simple counting votes. thx. HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — HeritageGuardian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  Hello @HistoryofIran I thought this discussion could be interesting to you since you created pages for persons who were in charge of foreign affairs in early Safavid dynasty. Please add your suggestions comments if any. thx HeritageGuardian (talk) 05:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — HeritageGuardian (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]