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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that sourcing, successes do not add up to any of the applicable sports guidelines, nor is GNG met. Star Mississippi 14:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reza Goodary[edit]

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Subject does not meet notability criteria for sportsmen as per WP:NKICK, WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT and WP:ANYBIO. The subject has not won any notable championships and there's a likelihood the article was created promotionally or WP:PAID. Lethweimaster (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep A quick WP:BEFORE shows quite a bit of coverage through Persian news outlets and other sources.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 22:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes WP:GNG. But there is a scope for work on the tone and advertisement. BBSTOP (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just not understanding how this passes WP:NKICK, WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT and WP:ANYBIO? The article is promotional, so that needs to be edited either way. But what notability is being determined here? Fad Ariff (talk) 11:49, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, there is no claim to notability here. Losing record in all disciplines Muaythai, MMA, and Boxing, has not won any notable championships. Lethweimaster (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments He doesn't appear to have won a major title that would show notability and his professional record is underwhelming. At first glance there appears to be a lot of sources, but I've been going through them and am having trouble seeing what meets the WP:GNG criteria. There's fight announcements, results reporting, database entries, and interviews--none of which meet WP:GNG. Even some of the national news coverage, much of which consists mainly of results and interviews, is somewhat suspect in terms of independence. When I see things like "our fighter", I have to question that I'm getting unbiased information. I haven't gotten through every source, but so far it's not encouraging. It would be nice if those claiming WP:GNG would pick their three best examples so that the rest of us don't have to spend time slogging through a lot of sources that don't meet that standard. Also, I'd like to say that WP notability is not dependent on the author (who may or may not be have been paid or written promotionally). He only appears to have about 50 edits in his contribution list, so he may just be inexperienced (and I'd hate to discourage a new contributor). Papaursa (talk) 02:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep Meet WP:SPORTSPERSON and WP:NKICK by a lot of reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.204.251.47 (talk) 03:48, 16 August 2022 (UTC) [reply]

Clearly does not meet WP:SPORTSPERSON "person has won a significant honor" - Subject has never won any significant honours. Entirely fails WP:NKICK. Lethweimaster (talk) 11:18, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above IP is evading a block and is not welcome around these parts. – 2.O.Boxing 07:35, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He has won no significant titles and has never been ranked in the world top 10 so he fails to meet either of the notability criteria mentioned by the SPA above. Even with the Kyokushin World Tournament Open having been split into at least 4 or 5 competing factions (each with their own championship), I don't see any evidence of him being the world champion in any of them. An 8th place in one of them is not a "world champion". Will reconsider if reliable independent sources are provided for those accomplishments. Papaursa (talk) 04:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Lack of independent, in-depth coverage. Sources listed above show no indication of meeeting WP:SIGCOV.Fails WP:GNG. Slywriter (talk) 17:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Nobody has provided compelling evidence that WP:GNG is met. In fact, the more I waded through the sources, the worse it got. I found claims that were linked to references that had nothing to do with the claim. Many, if not most of his titles, were in youth divisions. His BBJ success was at the blue belt level, which is the next to lowest level and doesn't come close to meeting the WP:MANOTE standard of adult black belt success. I also found the article's tone very promotional and lacking a neutral point of view, although those alone are not grounds for deletion. I am willing to change my vote, should additional information come forth, but for now I am unconvinced of his WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 23:40, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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