Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian Institute of Ecology and Environment

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:34, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Institute of Ecology and Environment[edit]

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The owner of the institute, 'Dr.' Priya Ranjan Trivedi has been running a fake degree/certificate racket and arrested by cops.^[1][2] Following are the reasons:

• It claims to offer Master's programmes affiliated with Global Open University. But, a private state university does not have the jurisdiction to offer distance education courses beyond the state territory.^[3]
• In 2003, an official complaint was raised against the the Employment news for publishing misleading/deceptive/strange/fraudulent advertisements of this institute among others. The Press Council of India took the decision in favour of the complainant.^[4]
• It seems to be like a humble environmental organization, but as per their website they offer courses is 'astrology' , 'urine therapy' and 'sex therapy' and over 800 such bogus courses.^[5]
• Its physical address is non-existent as per recent google reviews.^[6]
• All references cited in this article are redirecting to a different/dead website.
• It's claim that they are supported by Government of India is not backed with citation and the claim of approval by AICTE, is most likely fake.
• I think the reason that it is not listed among the UGC fake institute list as the owner seems to have strong political connections with the ruling party in India.^[7]
• As per another google review, one visitor was told that New Delhi campus has been shifted to Nagaland. Interestingly, the Global Open University located Nagaland is also owned by the same 'Dr.' Priya Ranjan Trivedi. Now, he has started another institute in Kolkata with the similar modus operandi.^[8]

Conclusion: In my opinion, having an article on Wikipedia, give this so called 'institute' some sort of credibility. Hence, the article should be deleted as soon as possible. User:Muhandes, hope you can help! Thank you.

• Comment The pertinent questions are (a) Does the school exist? (b) Is any of the substantive information in the article true and verifiable (WP:V)? (c) Does the school meet the notability guidelines (WP:N)? While discussion of the school's legitimacy, if it's challenged in reliable sources, is relevant to the article's content (subject to WP:RS and WP:NPOV), it isn't relevant to the article's existence. Largoplazo (talk) 19:44, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The school claims to exist in Paryavaran Complex, New Delhi, but that is not true, as per 3 recent google reviews. It exists only on website, to fool people and give them online degree/certificate in 'sex therapy' etc. in $45 bucks. I am surprised why this article was not speedy deleted under spam. Neurofreak (talk) 06:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Again: we aren't concerned with what the school claims. We're concerned with what the article claims. Largoplazo (talk) 10:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some of the false claims of article.

1. The article claim of its physical location in Delhi is not true, as explained earlier.
2. The first line of the article, "The Indian Institute of Ecology and Environment (IIEE) is a Government of India sponsored, autonomous" is without any citation. It is in fact a hoax.
3. The article claim of publishing 'over 150 books and monographs' and 'conducted over 180 national and international congresses' also lack citations.
4. The article claims to offer "various master's degree courses, in affiliation with The Global Open University, Nagaland' is without citing any link of accreditation agency. It is illegal to provide any degree or diploma without approval of UGC or AICTE in India. The university is blacklisted and unrecognized to offer such courses.

Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 13:27, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now you've put forth a case relevant to a deletion nomination. Largoplazo (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - As a hoax. Koridas ^talk? 19:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2020 June 23. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 19:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Institute website is not hosted on .res.in or .ac.in or .edu.in domains - which is mandatory for India-based educational institutes. -Hatchens (talk) 08:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hoaxes may be notable. Has there been any coverage from that angle? Rathfelder (talk) 22:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete you could get a certificate from your cat! No legitimate institute offers this many courses particularly as few have anything to do with ecology. As a note it is weird they managed to get a .edu email. I googled the person who owns the domain I would check each of these entities. Apparently, the guy PR Trivedi, is a laproscopic surgeon at world laproscopy hospital, "Prof. Trivedi holds Bachelor's, Master's and Doctoral qualifications in Engineering, Management, Human Rights and Environmental Laws. The three Encyclopaedias authored by him on Environment (30 Volumes), Disaster Management (20 Volumes) and Sustainable Development (50 Volumes) are used by all the important libraries of the world."

• Speedy delete, for now: Falls under CSD G3. If there is any significant coverage about how this "institute" is a hoax, then recreate the article and rewrite so it talks about the hoax. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 02:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Founder / President / Chairperson / Plenipotentiary of the following Institutions : World Institution Building Programme World Spiritual Parliament World Institute of Spirituality World Initiative for Publishing Encyclopaedias The Global Open University Press Indian Institute of Business Management Commonwealth of Distance Education Indian Institute of Ecology and Environment Dr. Zakir Husain Institute for Non Formal and Continuing Education Indian Institute of Disaster Management National Centre for Developmental Communication Indian Institute of Sustainable Development National Institute of Computer Education Quality Institute of India Indian Institute of Human Rights International Institute of Management Indian Institute of Applied Psychology Computers (India) Limited Indian Institute of Health Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan National Academy of Educational Planning and Administration Commonwealth of Virtual Education and Research Anand Shankar Madhavan Foundation Vishwa Hindi Vidyapeeth Publications Assistance for Generating Employment" Global_Open_University World_Laparoscopy_Hospital

By the way is that hospital real, I can't actually tell. Couldn't find it in pubmed, unlikely to be academic hospital. I would hazard that any institute here is fake too.PainProf (talk) 23:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is completely fake too, all of the doctor's have licenses that don't match the official database and internally inconsistent profiles! PainProf (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Total damn hoax. I'm suprised it wasn't G3ed yet. Eternal Shadow Talk 04:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly! I tagged it initially with WP:SPEEDY under spam. The request was declined, then with WP:PROD, again declined. Hope it gets it deleted soon under WP:AfD. But, the question is why this hoax was created, WP:PAID? and how it survived for 6 years? Neurofreak (talk) 10:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and add to WP:HOAXLIST. (t · c) buidhe 10:29, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Complete bollocks. All of the subsequent coverage is about the founder getting locked up for fraud; nothing mentions the subject of the article sufficiently to meet the threshold of notability. --Jack Frost (talk) 11:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Request - Can you please report this hoax organization on google places and save gullible people in future?

Thank you! Neurofreak (talk) 12:51, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"You" who? No one here is responsible for sending change requests to Google Maps. Largoplazo (talk) 12:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's now marked as permanently closed. Nevermind! Neurofreak (talk) 13:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - hoax Spiderone 19:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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