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October 27

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents
  • 2019 California wildfires
    • Further evacuations are ordered, with 180,000 people now affected. Power companies are scheduled to cut supplies for a million people today, doubling the size of what is already the biggest blackout in California history in a bid to prevent further fires igniting from damaged electric cables. (BBC News)

International relations
  • North Korea–United States relations
    • The government of North Korea says that it is "running out of patience with the U.S." due to "unilateral hostile disarmament demands" and warns that the cordial relationship between Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump would not prevent the talks from derailing. (ABC News)
  • Since convening on 6 October, the synod of Catholic bishops from Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guiana, Guyana, Peru, Venezuela, and Suriname gather with Pope Francis in Rome. According to the bishops, "a deep personal, social and structural conversion" is needed in response to the "unprecedented" environmental and social crisis in the Amazon. (Catholic News Service)

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports

Abū Bakr al-Baghdadi is killed

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Article: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is killed by US military forces. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Self-professed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and two of his wives kill themselves during a US raid in Idlib, Syria.
Alternative blurb II: Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi kills himself during a US raid in Idlib, Syria.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Self-professed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi kills himself and three of his children during a US raid in Idlib, Syria.
News source(s): Fox News and it is being widely reported. AP, BBC, AFP, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is major news. Article appears to be in good shape and is being updated as info becomes available. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:31, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait According to most media sources (including the Fox News link, which says “believed to be” Baghdadi) his death is still awaiting final confirmation, and given that he has been incorrectly reported dead many times we should be extra cautious to make sure his death is reliably confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt. Would definitely support upon confirmation; probably the world’s most wanted individual for the past several years. EternalNomad (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support once confirmed - Aviartm (talk) 04:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
He's assumed room temperature because the intelligence people found the murderous little SOB and the military went in. Whether he chose to go out like Hitler in the bunker or guns blazing is not material to my mind. President bone spurs had nothing to do with it either way. Same was true of Obama and bin-Laden. That said, if he did throw his own off switch that should be reflected and I would support the alt blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:34, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hitler would have had no clue what to do with two wives. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:51, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
Because the Orange One is absolutely a trustworthy reliable source. WaltCip (talk) 13:31, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say DT was independent – hence the however. – Sca (talk) 13:49, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Going against the flow here, I'm not sure he's worth a blurb. He wasn't Osama. RD anyone? – Sca (talk) 13:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ivan Milat

Article: Ivan Milat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced today. BabbaQ (talk) 01:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose That's a redirect to a section in an article about the murders he committed. He doesn't have his own article. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:36, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am not at all sure why he doesn't have his own article, or why the article is called "Backpacker Murders". It's the result of a merger in 2008, after discussion on the talk page between 4 editors, all of whom seemed to have lived in the US. I guess that's maybe an indication of how the case was known there, but I think that in Australia, his name is better known than the term "Backpacker murders". The Guardian obit is titled "Ivan Milat, Australia's most notorious serial killer, dies aged 74" [2]. It also has another article "Ivan Milat's chilling serial backpacker murders still haunt Australia" [3]. The ABC has "Australian serial killer Ivan Milat dies in Long Bay prison, aged 74" [4] and "Secrets of the forest: Ivan Milat, Australia’s most notorious serial killer, is dead. How many more murders remain unsolved?" [5]. 39 of the 83 (ish) sources have the name Milat in the title. But I don't want to spend time on the article myself. RebeccaGreen (talk) 05:54, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
RebeccaGreen , I think the subject being the most notorious Astralian murderer deserves his own bio. (assuming there is enough material to write there). This should have been on ITN RD. --DBigXray 07:07, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Over half of the current article is about him, his trial and imprisonment, interviews about other disappearances, etc. There's plenty for an article about him. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:27, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 26

Armed conflicts and attacks
Disasters and accidents
Business and economy

Law and crime

RD: V. Nanammal

Article: V. Nanammal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News, Yoga Grandma Passes, India Today, ToI
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: C Class article with excellent sourcing. She was India's oldest living yoga teacher. DBigXray 06:51, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 25

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents
  • Lion Air Flight 610
    • Indonesian investigators conclude their probe of the disaster with the release of a 353-page final report. The report states the crash was caused by a combination of flawed software design by Boeing, a failure of Lion Air to ground the jet over issues it had previously experienced, and inappropriate pilot responses to the developing emergency. (BBC News)
  • A car collides with pedestrians and other vehicles after running two red lights while accelerating in central Shanghai. At least five are killed and nine more injured. (South China Morning Post)

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Don Valentine

Article: Don Valentine (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BI
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing DBigXray 07:09, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dilip Parikh

Article: Dilip Parikh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs copyediting and grammar corrections Nizil (talk) 06:56, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Northeast Brazil oil spill

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Article: Northeast Brazil oil spill (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Coastline of Northeast Brazil hit by mysterious oil spill. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mysterious oil spill hit entire Northeast Brazil coast.
Alternative blurb II: ​ A mysterious oil spill around the northeast coastline of Brazil reaches 200 localities in nine states, contaminating water, fisheries, and beauty spots.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A mysterious oil spill around the northeast coast of Brazil reaches 200 localities in nine states, contaminating water, fisheries, and beauty spots. Investigators believe it may have originated from Venezuela.
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, CBS, The Washington Post, Reuters
Credits:

 Chronus (talk) 22:58, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Spencer:  Done. Chronus (talk) 04:18, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support and added alt 2 and 3. Article could use some improvement, but good enough for ITN. Kingsif (talk) 17:03, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the article is light on specifics -- it's largely general information about the impact of any oil spill. Except for "confidentially" blaming Venezuela, there are only very general details like "30 tankers from ten different countries" and "As of October 23, contamination had reached more than 200 localities". The article leaves me, as a reader, asking "How much oil? Where? What damage? What's being done to clean it up?" The article lacks all of those crucial specifics. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The oil was produced in Venezuela, that is a fact, but nobody knows how much oil (it just keeps coming) because nobody knows when or where or who caused the spill. It's a very mysterious spill. But it's one of the biggest (if not the biggest) environmental disaster in Brazilian recent history.--SirEdimon (talk) 03:48, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • After the Amazon fires? But yeah, if they're certain it's from Venezuela, the only way to measure it is to ask Venezuela. Kingsif (talk) 04:05, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • @LaserLegs: This is a disaster that is still in progress. There is still no concrete information about the origin of the oil, nor about its quantity, much less about the environmental and human impacts, which take longer time to measure. Understand that the entire coast of the Brazilian Northeast has been reached, so there is not a single place to be mentioned in the text. What's being done to clean it up? Please read the fourth paragraph of the introductory text and you will have your answer. Chronus (talk) 08:13, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Kingsif: Amazon fires occur every year, but only received wide media coverage in 2019. About your question about Venezuela, see this and this. Chronus (talk) 08:13, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reply Article is getting better, needs a copyedit. Everything is in the lead, the impact section is mostly fluff. Still missing crucial details on observed impact so far.--LaserLegs (talk) 13:30, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Sturm (talk) 02:15, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Uluru climbing ban

Article: Uluru (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Australia, a ban against climbing Uluru takes effect. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Very interesting piece of news; a ban on one of the most sacred and iconic landmarks in the world is certain to impact tourism at least in the country. EternalNomad (talk) 17:37, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose on quality alone. The item has been global news for a day or so, but the article really needs substantial work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:45, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per TRM. As far as I can tell, there's only actually a line on the actual climbing ban? PotentPotables (talk) 23:27, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose both on quality and importance. Governments issue bans everyday. – Ammarpad (talk) 12:26, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Per previous. Of interest to a specialized audience. Sca (talk) 14:20, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance. This is not any old ban, but has received much publicity worldwide, probably at least partly because many readers are likely to see it as implicitly significant in many different areas, such as 'God/Religion v Mammon', colonizers v colonized, alleged 'science/rationality' v alleged 'superstition', tourist rights v native rights, ancient v modern, conservation v jobs, politically correct v politically incorrect, and so on, and is quite likely to have knock-on effects elsewhere in the world as a result, even if these arguments are not necessarily spelled out explicitly in Reliable Sources and in our article (and perhaps rightly so, to avoid becoming UNDUE, etc). As for article quality, I don't normally regard myself as qualified to judge whether our quality standards are being met, but a superficial look at the article suggests, at least to me, that there is an orange flag that would need fixing, but assuming that gets fixed, I think the article currently seemingly gives a brief but reasonable and arguably adequate summary of the history of the disputes over native ownership and climbing rights, thus providing our readers with the background to this story, which at least arguably fulfils the first stated purpose of ITN articles ("To help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news."). But as already mentioned, I am not the best person to judge such quality issues. Tlhslobus (talk) 23:43, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Maria Butina

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Article: Maria Butina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Maria Butina (pictured), Russian citizen convicted of crimes relating to the 2016 United States presidential election, is released from prison and is expected to be immediately deported to Moscow (Post)
Alternative blurb: Maria Butina (pictured), Russian citizen convicted of conspiracy to act as a foreign agent and interfere with the 2016 United States presidential election, is released from prison and is expected to be immediately deported to Moscow
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, CNN
Credits:

Article updated
 comrade waddie96 ★ (talk) 14:55, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

October 24

International relations

Law and crime
Politics and elections

Sports

(Posted) 2019 Bolivian general election results

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Articles: 2019 Bolivian general election (talk · history · tag) and Evo Morales (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Bolivia, incumbent president Evo Morales (pictured) is re-elected to office, after days of violent protests and claims of electoral fraud over delayed results. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Bolivia, incumbent president Evo Morales (pictured) is re-elected to office, after days of violent protests.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Amidst days of violent protests and claims of electoral fraud, incumbent Bolivian president Evo Morales is re-elected to office.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Bolivia, incumbent president Evo Morales (pictured) is re-elected to office, though his party loses their majority in the Chamber.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Now the result has been officially announced, a general election blurb nom (see protests one below - they can be combined). Kingsif (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support ITNR election nomination with a succinct article, with prose for all suitable sections. Also incorporates the Bolivian protests (which for some reason have not yet been posted). Accessible.130.233.2.235 (talk) 11:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also added a shortened altblurb130.233.2.235 (talk) 11:29, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just hit refresh, yeah. The other tabs of the vote results source gave the seat count, but these now appear blank. So... that's a problem. Separately, I might adjust the percentages to include invalid ballots. Kingsif (talk) 16:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should be good now, found a Bolivian newspaper that reported on the TREP results on 21 Oct. - Chamber results complete, Senate reported at 83% counted. Kingsif (talk) 17:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Quantum supremacy

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Article: Quantum supremacy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Google claims to have achieved quantum supremacy by completing a 10,000-year calculation in 200 seconds. (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:
 128.62.69.171 (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) WPV3 eradicated

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Article: Polio eradication (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Health Organization certifies the eradication of wild poliovirus type 3. (Post)
News source(s): WHO, BBC
Credits:
 TompaDompa (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A couple cn's in the 2000-2005 history section but nothing that should be hard to fix. Otherwise updated and looks good, and a significant event. --Masem (t) 17:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose While the article itself isn't bad, there are only a couple sentences on the 2019 eradication (the "event"), and more or less they simply say "WP3 was declared eradicated in October 2019". There really hasn't been a major update in the article reflecting the eradication ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 19:24, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No, 'cause it's only one of many strains. I expect Overwhelming support for the nom once all strains are eradicated and the disease seizes to exist --5.44.170.9 (talk) 23:17, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I wouldn't say one of many strains. Only WPV1 remains now, and there were only three strains to begin with. TompaDompa (talk) 23:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support based on the source, 2/3 of the way there which is a significant milestone. Banedon (talk) 01:31, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose notability/impact. PV3 is a terribly niche virus and has been a non-issue, from an epidemiological standpoint, even decades ago. The pre-fixing of "W" onto the beginning of viral names is a tactic that borders on marketing. Essentially, they're taking credit for "eradicating" a genetically narrowly-defined virus to get press and funding. PV3 cases are still going to occur, just not this WPV3 strain. Contra the above, there are hundreds of PV strains, they are just categorized as -1, -2, and -3 ('type strains') for historical reasons. Heck, PV1 is still around even while having one of the most efficacious vaccines available for decades.130.233.2.235 (talk) 05:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose of course we should reconsider when polio is eradicated full stop. Until then, this is just another incremental step towards a real news story. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 07:30, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is a step in the right direction but this isn't the full eradication, and it nowhere near reaches the smallpox level of news. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 08:02, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Arcane and obscure. – Sca (talk) 12:27, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. If/when polio is eradicated then it would be appropriate to post. One particular strain of the virus is only an incremental step towards that goal. Modest Genius talk 12:35, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per TRM and Modest Genius.-- P-K3 (talk) 12:38, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. per TRM. – Ammarpad (talk) 13:16, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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October 23

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International relations

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(Posted) RD: Xie Gaohua

Article: Xie Gaohua (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Beijing News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Zanhe (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: James W. Montgomery

Article: James W. Montgomery (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Episcopal Diocese of Chicago
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 9th Episcopal Bishop of Chicago Teemu08 (talk) 14:21, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Bolivian protests

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Article: 2019 Bolivian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Violent protests (pictured) erupt across Bolivia in response to accusations of electoral fraud in the recent general election. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Bolivian elections reported as fraudulent (Monday), two years after president claims human rights violations to change the law and allow himself to run again. Mysteriously missing results and protestors decapitating a statue of Hugo Chávez to leave outside a politician's door (Tuesday). President calls it a coup, OAS says to redo but doesn't expect he will (Wednesday). Kingsif (talk) 00:00, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely no comment on the dictatorship vs. success rates of pseudo-socialist economic malpractice regimes in South America (all joking - and thanks for tag fixes) Kingsif (talk) 08:37, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, Support130.233.2.47 (talk) 06:43, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think that would be hard to do, concisely and objectively. The immediate and stated cause of this is electoral irregularities of the most recent election (which is hard to take seriously, seeing that pre-election and exit polling are all in general agreement with the official results). More likely, the near-half of the country that voted for someone other than the winner, are upset that the winner is now taking on a fourth consecutive term in a country whose constitution explicitly bans any more than two consecutive terms, but this is still allowed because someone 50 years ago signed a treaty. The article gets this point across in, I think, an even-handed way, but I can't come up with a blurb that does as well. Best to just point to the article and let readers find out for themselves.130.233.2.47 (talk) 09:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As said, but in short format, it's going to be hard to give a blurb about an election when it might not be over? Harder to make it objective. Kingsif (talk) 09:42, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2019 Grays incident

Article: 2019 Grays incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Grays, England, 39 dead bodies are found in an international freight chiller lorry believed to have originated in Bulgaria. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: International mass murder/organised crime investigation & Brexit implications. (There was an AfD closed as Speedy Keep). Kingsif (talk) 18:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - I do not know it this gets attention world wide because it happens in England. But it is for sure all over the world media and the article seems ready for posting. sourced and good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 18:15, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Mass killing, apparently of illegal immigrants, by an international organised crime group. Of significant historical notability to the world, not just Europe. Similar to the 2000 Dover incident. Jim Michael (talk) 19:18, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - worldwide notability indeed, and well built article. Sad we have to post it ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 19:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - per above supports. Seems well-sourced at first read. I notice a discussion on the Talk page regarding proposed alternate article titles. Jusdafax (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait – It's widely published all right, but something about it makes me nervous. For one thing, the Guardian and the BBC say the driver/suspect is named Mo Robinson, but both are quite dodgy about it. Guardian: "believed to be Mo Robinson," BBC: "named locally as Mo Robinson." Neither statement is in the nominated article; if this were an official identification it would be there. Instead, we say he was a 25-year-old from such-and-such. I don't like it. Further, we know nothing about the victims or where they were from. Also, the 'Reactions' section conveys no real information. Suggest we wait for more details. – Sca (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Name not included per BLP concerns. There is so little information on suspects that connecting only one man, who may just be an unlucky driver, to 39 murders, obviously not happening. Kingsif (talk) 22:30, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2019 Japan Series

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Article: 2019 Japan Series (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In baseball, the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks defeat the Yomiuri Giants to win the Japan Series (MVP Yurisbel Gracial pictured). (Post)
News source(s): Japan Times
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 14:01, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WeWork CEO Severance

Articles: WeWork (talk · history · tag) and Adam Neumann (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following a failed IPO, WeWork founder Adam Neumann is awarded a $1.7 billion severance package (Post)
News source(s): CNBC
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Both articles updated

Nominator's comments: Absolutely gobstopping malfeasance, even by the standards of our latter day tech bubble/guilded age, that has dominated financial press for days. Decent articles. I can't find recent data, but as of 2012, the largest severance package for a CEO was $417 million, for Jack Welch of GE, in 2001. 130.233.2.235 (talk) 10:32, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Zeng Rongsheng

Article: Zeng Rongsheng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Paper
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Zanhe (talk) 01:20, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Rolando Panerai

Article: Rolando Panerai (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Il Messagiero and others (some say 23 Oct, but also say Maggio is an opera house - which it isn't)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the best-known Italian baritones, partner of Mria Callas, long career, many recordings, active as director until last year. I did what I could about an article with no references. - Sad job. --–

(Posted) RD: Hans Zender

Article: Hans Zender (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German composer better known as a conductor. Stephen Climax, where more sources could be found. Sad. I once talked to him. Mostly out today. Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Chris (sheep)

Article: Chris (sheep) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald, BBC
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is well sourced, and seems to fully cover the subject, despite its short length Spokoyni (talk) 23:18, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spokoyni, need to apply {{convert}} to a lot of those measurements, because we Americans are not converting to the metric system. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:21, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well if you won't, you won't. I've added conversion templates, I don't know what '30 jumpers' converts to in sweaters, and nor does the template, so I think you'll have to live with that. Spokoyni (talk) 23:34, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Marieke Vervoort

Article: Marieke Vervoort (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs expanding a bit. I'm nominating to draw attention to this article in case anyone has the inclination to improve it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now. Great work in little time! Thanks ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 15:40, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Raymond Leppard

Article: Raymond Leppard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Per the discusion on my talk, I nominate before I did the slightest thing. Planning to work on it, help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Emperor Naruhito enthroned

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Articles: 2019 Japanese imperial transition (talk · history · tag) and Naruhito (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Japanese emperor Naruhito is enthroned (Post)
News source(s): [8] [9]
Credits:

Article updated
 Banedon (talk) 02:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Northern Ireland direct rule

Articles: Northern Ireland (Executive Formation etc) Act 2019 (talk · history · tag) and Same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The deadline to form a new Northern Ireland Executive passes without agreement, meaning that laws decriminalising abortion and recognising same-sex marriage come into effect. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, BBC News, BBC News 2, BBC News 3
Credits:

Both articles updated

Nominator's comments: News coverage is a bit confusing: Although abortion services won't open in NI until 2020, it was decriminalized in NI as of midnight last night meaning women can access English services without paying and without committing a crime. Similarly, same-sex marriage won't be available until early next year when Northern Ireland's pension laws etc get updated, but the law mandating it has already come into effect. Smurrayinchester 08:40, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose certainly newsworthy but all three target articles suffering in their own ways from lack of quality. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Whilst this is good news, we've stopped posting the legalisation of same-sex marriage in even large & populous sovereign countries. NI is a small non-sovereign region with 3% of the UK population. Modest Genius talk 11:17, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The blurb is unenlightening, and visiting the bold link did nothing to clarify the issue. What's going on here? An Act has been proposed, and did not pass, and this leads to new laws being made re: LBGT and abortion? And according to the article this has something to do with Brexit and a renewable energy scandal? The lede states that this places the burden of legalizing these things onto the British (London) government in 2020; where and how does this new government/laws come into effect, then? If this is a routine change in government, I would support it on ITNR. If this is about legalizing sex and abortion, I would need more information before !voting. If this is about Brexit and/or some other scandal, the update should go to those respective articles and re-nominated. In any case, some clarification is needed before posting.130.233.2.47 (talk) 13:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - both article and blurb issues that needs to be completed before posting. Not opposing posting when completed, ping me.BabbaQ (talk) 22:40, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Sorry, but we have long since passed the point where we need to be posting each legalization of SSM. If Russia or Saudi Arabia legalize it drop me a line. Otherwise, this is just more of the same. At some point we need to stop posting these events, and IMHO that point was a couple of years ago. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:22, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Agree with the opposes above on same sex marriage but am I the only one who finds the abortion part surprising enough to post, considering that GB legalised abortion half a century ago. I can't help but think that Northern Ireland just now legalising abortion is notable enough to deserve some thought. WP:LOGGEDOUT. 69.140.120.9 (talk) 04:14, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I agree, the abortion aspect is by far more significant than the same-sex marriage issue which appears to have fixated most commentators here. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:45, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree the abortion part affects more people, but my opinion is the same: this law affects a non-sovereign region with a population of less than two million. We would not post the legalisation of abortion in just, say, Multan. Modest Genius talk 18:55, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Ad Orientem. Legalization of SSM among countries around the world is steadily increasing. The abortion part is also rather unnoteworthy here on similar merit. Nonstopmaximum (talk) 10:21, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability; an interesting, newsworthy story which is being covered here in the U.S. as well. However, the issues with the articles still have not been addressed. Davey2116 (talk) 08:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bengt Feldreich

Article: Bengt Feldreich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced today. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Thomas D'Alesandro III

Article: Thomas D'Alesandro III (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:29, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Eric Cooper

Article: Eric Cooper (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Active Major League Baseball umpire (worked the playoffs just a couple of weeks ago), died unexpectedly at 52. Article is cited and has been updated. Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, looks short but decent. Do we know anything about his early life? Just curious.Please add a source here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted (though details about early life would be nice) Kees08 (Talk) 15:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post Posting Support Article looks good enough, but I am concerned about how quickly this was posted with little chance of reaching a true consensus. One support is not enough, even for a RD ~mike_gigs talkcontribs 16:49, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    mike gigs, precedent has established that an experienced nominator and an experienced admin together constitute consensus for recent death nomination. An RD nom doesn't even need a single support. If an admin is confident the article quality is good enough, they can post. I haven't seen an RD being pulled from ITN for at least the past year and half. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:38, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    mike gigs does have a valid point; this article is definitely on the brief side and I welcome Kees08 to joining ITN as the most recently promoted admin (and thus "experienced admin" may be pushing it, no offense intended), but unless the article is of more solid quality, I do prefer to wait for more improvement/expansion (and I would have preferred to wait longer for this particular nomination). Just my 2 cents. SpencerT•C 03:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    You can pull it if you like, will not bother me at all. Though including the nominator and myself, there are four supports. I took a look for more sources and did not see anything interesting to add, though that does not mean it doesn't exist! Kees08 (Talk) 07:24, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think you did anything wrong - quick turnarounds on RDs are to be encouraged, not discouraged.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:33, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Canadian federal election

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Article: 2019 Canadian federal election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ ​In the Canadian federal election, the ruling Liberal Party, led by Justin Trudeau (pictured), loses its majority but wins the most seats in the House of Commons. (Post)
News source(s): CBC, AP, BBC, AFP, Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Pre-emptive nomination. Listed in WP:ITN/R. Results will be close so pre-emptively providing blurbs for the two front-running parties gripped in a tie in opinion polls. Blurbs and pictures can be updated as the results become more clear into the evening. 99.244.174.197 (talk) 06:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support but I'm not sure the pre-emptive nomination was necessary. You're right - it's on ITN/R, and so there's no question this will be posted. However, we must avoid posting in haste - we will only put a blurb up when it is clear whether it's a majority/minority parliament, and who has won the majority or won the most seats. As you say, if it's really close, that may take some time to work out. We will only post when we are 100% sure. 88.215.17.228 (talk) 11:06, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unable to vote until we have a completed article with properly cited final prose synopses of the completed election. Unless and until we have that, we cannot assess quality. --Jayron32 12:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Just domestic politics. STSC (talk) 13:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just wait and see, for now. STSC (talk) 13:51, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
STSC General elections are on the recurring events list, meaning notability is not at issue. If you disagree with general elections being on the list, you are free to propose its removal on the ITNR talk page. 331dot (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
By the time this is posted the election will be decided so I don’t see that as an issue.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 18:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Nick Tosches

Article: Nick Tosches (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bilbiography/discography/etc. is an issue. Spengouli (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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