Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 April 16

April 16

File:Komagata Maru Charterer Gurdit Singh and Passengers Landing.jpg

A cropped lower resolution version of File:Sikhs aboard Komagata Maru.jpg. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 00:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Let's delete File:Komagata Maru Charterer Gurdit Singh and Passengers Landing.jpg UpDater (talk) 03:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lynyrd SkynyrdFreeBirdSolo.ogg

De-PRODding reason from an admin was this: The article states that this is one of the greatest guitar solos of all time. It IS the song, the heart of it. This implies that, per WP:NFC#Audio clips, critical commentary should suffice to save the sample from deletion. However, even with critical commentary, I still doubt that the whole sample itself is significant contextually to the whole nine- or ten-minute song.

The whole sample sure is a portion of "one of the greatest guitar solos", but the whole song (recording) is not about that guitar solo, even as "greatest" as it may have been. The song has lyrics lasting five, six, or seven minutes.

Furthermore, the phrase "one of the greatest guitar solos" and the whole sample provide the same role: driving a reader into seeking the whole, full studio recording... or live one of the same song and letting the reader decide for oneself. Moreover, the 30-second sample either doesn't fully explain why the whole guitar solo is the "greatest" or is more about the portion itself than about the whole guitar solo (or the whole song).

Or, words are enough per WP:FREER to explain (what) the whole song (is about) or... (that) the whole song (is more than just the "greatest guitar solo"), and the sample itself doesn't need to be in the project. Speaking of "greatest", "greatest" can be subjective, yet the sample isn't that adequate, in my opinion. The whole recording at any length does the better explanation than any sample/portion.

In short, even meeting "critical commentary" rule doesn't absolve the sample's potential failures to comply with the whole NFCC, especially the "contextual significance" one. George Ho (talk) 04:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:James Brown - It's a Man's Man's Man's World.ogg

De-PRODded for this reason: Annulation de suppression d'audio. L'audio permet au lecteur de connecter la chanson avec l'article en associant le titre à un extrait de la chanson. Helping readers identify the James Brown song It's a Man's Man's Man's World isn't sufficient to absolve the sample's potential failures to be contextually significant the whole song (recording). Rather it does the same thing that free text can do: drive readers into seeking and listening the whole song.

Furthermore, nothing in the sample indicates why omitting the sample from the article would harm readers' understanding of the whole song, honestly. Regardless of familiarity and legacy, I hear lyrics, and music simultaneously, and I hear performance. However, the content given is all I hear, and I still haven't found the sample to fulfillingly help me understand the whole song. Oh, and understanding ≠ identifying. George Ho (talk) 05:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Get Ready For This - 2 Unlimited.ogg

De-PRODding rationale was this: Music sample should NOT be deleted as it is necessary to understand the article. Unfortunately, necessity rationale doesn't absolve the sample's potential failure to prove why omitting the sample harms the understanding of the whole song, the omission one part of WP:NFCC#8. The song was initially a composition, but then lyrics were added in another recording.

The whole sample is just music with one spoken line, and its role is the same as what free text already does: drive readers into seeking and then listening (versions of) the whole song. Furthermore, it doesn't fully represent (what) the whole song/composition (is about) and (how) the whole song/composition (had been done). George Ho (talk) 05:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Please Myself pink cover.jpg=

File:Please Myself pink cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

There is a version below TOO in the file history. Surely if the album can be represented by something non-copyrightable then the recent non-free upload with the same name fails WP:NFCC#1. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:44, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]