Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boitumelo McCallum

Boitumelo McCallum

This one's not going to make me popular, I know... Per WP:NOT#MEMORIAL I don't think this should be here. She appears to be famous solely as the victim of a crime, and as per policy in that case the article should be about the case & not the victim; however, tragic as it is, the case doesn't appear to be unusual/significant enough to warrant its own article. However, I'm not in New York, and the number of press citations makes me think that maybe this case was more significant in the US than it appears to be. — iridescent (talk to me!) 21:01, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Murder of Boitumelo McCallum, with a substantial rewrite. Currently has a big problem with the tone of the article right now... "The Jealous Boyfriend"? That's PoV for starters, surely, unless sourced. Infact, a lot of cleanup is needed, of various sorts. But I do think the case is notable; and, as is the case with articles such as Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and ... another story from this year (what it is exactly has completely passed my mind for right now), an article on the case with a section on the bio of the victim seems like the best option (especially considering, as you point out, the sheer number of sources available). AllynJ (talk | contribs) 21:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Wait, has the boyfriend been convicted? If not, then he's an accused murderer, not murderer, surely? Loooots of tone/pov issues here... AllynJ (talk | contribs) 21:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. An importent and well-known case. And my advice, if you have symphaty for an article, dont nominate it. If it's really that bad someone else will. Dont forget then an article is something someone worked hard on. When he sees a messege like you wrotte he's like: "I worked on it, wrote, found references and he's not shure but nominates it??" So for the future, nothing will happen to you if you don't nominate, esspecially if you're not shure. M.V.E.i. 21:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment What on earth are you talking about? Nowhere do I say I have sympathy for this article, I say I think it's apparently a clear violation of WP:NOT and am bringing it here for a second opinion just in case it's more notable than it appears. — iridescent (talk to me!) 21:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Move and Edit - I have to agree with AllynJ. This article is noteworthy, it hit both New York Times and USAToday, but the POV is a major problem. Icestorm815 21:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It requires to much of a rewrite, instead of moving it just start over from scratch at Murder of Boitumelo McCallum. ILovePlankton⁽^L^—ⁿ⁾ 22:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia does not do memorial pages, and that's what this is. Being in the news does not make you notable. This is a sad story, not a notable one, unless you an show this is a historical event. MarkBul 22:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]