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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Gerda Arendt (talk | contribs) at 08:39, 23 November 2017 (... that the simple hymn "'''Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren'''", used at the end of a meal, became a model for other songs of thanks? - Happy Thanksgiving!). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Nun danket alle

Happy Thanksgiving!

Did you know ...

... that the simple hymn
"Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren",
used at the end of a meal,
became a model for other songs of thanks?

... that Bach used music of thanks
from his cantata
Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29,
for his final
Dona nobis pacem (Grant us peace)?

2017
reformation
sing peace
I took the picture
of Karlheinz Oswald's bronze
of Hildegard of Bingen
at Eibingen Abbey.

Archive of 2009 · 2010 · 2011 · 2012 · 2013 · 2014 · 2015 · 2016 · 2017 · blushing

Good advice

I'm cleverest! --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clever enough to listen, the greatest gift! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for the positive comments at the AI thread. Hard spot for anyone to speak up when a gang of editors are attacking someone....thanks. All my fault I took the bait. I really don't see a point in commenting anymore as they don't seem to care about accessibility dispite studies and reader after reader saying something. I will still have fun watching these guys scrabble all the time this comes up. It's to bad and funny because most of them are great editors. I spoke up about every 3 months or so...but think things are personal between me and Cass now..thus think it's best to let others deal with his odd inflamitory attitude. --Moxy (talk) 18:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, - I just stopped commenting, it's a waste of time. I add infoboxes, and when they are reverted, I add a new one, - for the readers. 2017 is the year of reformation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Oskar Gottlieb Blarr

On 3 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oskar Gottlieb Blarr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Oskar Gottlieb Blarr (pictured), "the composer with the hat", traveled to Israel to experience where Jesus lived as a Jew? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oskar Gottlieb Blarr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oskar Gottlieb Blarr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What a hook! Congratulations! Yoninah (talk) 15:26, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The first of "mine" with more than 10k ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mitten wir im Leben sind

On 15 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mitten wir im Leben sind, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Martin Luther (pictured) paraphrased in his hymn "Mitten wir im Leben sind mit dem Tod umfangen" the Latin "Media vita in morte sumus" (In the midst of life we are in death), including its Trisagion? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mitten wir im Leben sind. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mitten wir im Leben sind), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Schwede66 00:01, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

iboxes

Fair enough. Time to update Composer ibox, possibly... I'll leave that for now, though! — Iadmctalk  19:10, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The most important thing I want to know about a composer is his works, - it works for Reger, Beethoven, Bach and Handel. {{infobox person}} is always most advanced, - why have a different one? I use it for all people, - just started a conductor whose concert I liked, only to find out he is mentioned on 2016 in classical music ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:38, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you remember, the concern was adding irrelevancies like "associated acts" and so on. {{Infobox classical composer}} was a compromise to move discussion forward. Perhaps it is time to review it since few active editors know it exists. I take your point about Works but, as I recall, the Project was worried about a huge list appearing and otherwise deciding which were the most notable works to include. WP:COMPOSERS seems to be only semi-active, now, so perhaps discussion there is pointless? Anyway, I avoid infoboxes generally, leaving them to others to deal with, unless they are clearly a mess. — Iadmctalk  22:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That said a lot of articles use it — Iadmctalk  22:23, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Very wise (avoid, I mean). My last encounter with the project was regarding Pierre Boulez when he died about a year ago. I suggested something very basic, and was reverted, and went to the talk page, and tried the project, - I don't need more of the kind, ever. I add infoboxes where I think they are an improvement, and when I'm reverted I go to the next (and watch others talking, confessed). DYK that I archived all infobox-related stuff end of 2015? Writing articles is much more rewarding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ps: "If you remember" - no, I don't, I was merrily unaware of the conflict until Samuel Barber in 2012, when I encountered the unforgettable phrase "Unless, of course, someone wishes to argue that Barber was not a person..." that changed my mind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That WikiProject was very argumentative, as I recall, and opposed just about anything other than its OWN agenda... ;) I might just change all the boxes linked above to Person, see what happens! Probably very little. Best — Iadmctalk  22:57, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No need to change unless you need the parameters it doesn't offer, education and work, - I try to use only a few anyway. My name comes up a lot in the list ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For all your hard and thoughtful work on Wikipedia through the years. — Iadmctalk  01:43, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I turned to soft work, though, like the poet above, and the hymn to come next ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
copied to blushing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Something I found...

...on WikiMedia Commons. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Herz-lichen Dank! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda

Just when we need you the most, you step lightly in
Thank you Gerda for being a force for humane continuity, decency and enlightenment in a challenging world. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, blushing (again) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Talk before you block"

You used to have an essay with this name. I can't find it, where's it gone? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted after discussion, and userfied, - only I can't find it myself. It was first used for Coffee (after he blocked Eric), and it was a paraphrase of talk before you cite a colleague to AE. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:22, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Gerda Arendt/User talk before you block. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:24, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Floq, my best memory --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:28, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Memory? Oh dear, no. I can't recall where I parked my car this morning. I just used https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Gerda&namespace=2. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:40, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Crikey, what did I have for breakfast? What article was I going to take to GA next? Heck, I can't remember. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Something to do with Monopoly? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:54, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's a nice piece of work. Several of our current admins could take some advice there. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed ... it's concise while hitting all the important points. (Btw, Gerda, was just dropping by to say thanks for thanking me ... I do enjoy getting those.) - Dank (push to talk) 16:28, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Kirchenlied

On 9 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kirchenlied, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Catholic hymnal Kirchenlied, first published in 1938, was not immediately banned by the Nazis because it also contained Protestant songs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kirchenlied. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Kirchenlied), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for An die Hoffnung

On 19 April 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article An die Hoffnung, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Max Reger conducted the premiere of "An die Hoffnung" (To Hope), a setting of Hölderlin's poem and his only orchestral song, with contralto Anna Erler-Schnaudt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/An die Hoffnung. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, An die Hoffnung), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I've checked my messages in the first time in years and noticed you had contacted me twice, once re Pollini. I heard him live, I think for the first time, earlier this year doing a Beethoven and Schoenberg programme. BTW I joined Facebook last year and tried looking for you. I decided that the one Gerda Arendt I cold fine was probably not you because of her musical tastes.--Peter cohen (talk) 17:31, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I'm not on facebook, - great to hear from you! Happy New Year then ;) - Planning to listen to Walküre tomorrow, and three Krenek operas on Sunday, Der Diktator, Schwergewicht und Das geheime Königreich. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I hope therewas some good Hoyotohos. I don't really know the Krenek.--Peter cohen (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The battlecries had a certain raw and wild aspect. Siegmund was excellent (he was scheduled as Siegfried for two full Ring cycles, doing Siegmund also, on short notice). The Kreneks all switched from tragic to slapstick in seconds, music never boring. I am traveling, hope to expand them when I return. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Requiem für einen jungen Dichter

On 30 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Requiem für einen jungen Dichter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his Requiem für einen jungen Dichter, composer Bernd Alois Zimmermann combines the Latin Requiem with literary, philosophical, religious and political texts that shaped his lifetime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Requiem für einen jungen Dichter. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Requiem für einen jungen Dichter), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:01, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

You remember! I am humbled. The article still needs a lot of work. Aditya(talkcontribs) 06:27, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have a bad memory but a good list ;) - all our articles could always be improved, so be proud of what you contributed already! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And thank you from me too - much appreciated, Gerda! Sorry I haven't done any major work lately, but I broke my right arm last December, and I'm only just starting to get back into it. Your encouragement is good motivation. Storye book (talk) 07:45, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
True, your encouragement is good motivation! You do a really good job with Precious award, Gerda. - Dank (push to talk) 11:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you (blushing)! - I try to continue the work Phadriel started and Rlevse did for several years. - The daily morning routine of going through reasons to be thankful is actually good for me, preparing for the less precious encounters ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedians would be happier if they all took that advice. - Dank (push to talk) 12:34, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
Thank you for sending me so many awards for my improvements and such, continue doing what you do. Thanks for being here! Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 14:33, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Gerda! If memory serves me correctly, you enjoy adding infoboxes to articles. I have just (re-)created an article that could use one; would you be able to add one for me? Best wishes, 28bytes (talk) 04:06, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What lovely news: that you created an article! I will! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Did you know that when I added the infobox to the above-mentioned opera (in 2013, at the hight of the infoboxes arb case!), I didn't enjoy it but felt defiant and almost guikty? Did you know how many operas have an infobox now? All Verdi added by Viva-Verdi. I try to continue, - and look at this ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ibox adapted from AllMusic, no idea what alexa means, - please complete. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your assistance Gerda! 28bytes (talk) 12:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The website, Online database is an article that leaves much to be desired. Compare Allmusic, there's a more precise link to a list article, - I wonder if such a thing exists for the video games, or could be created. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

History

Hi Gerda, I thought I was talking to myself! The end result of "Computer Man" - All Mind Finally Becomes Visible. Hope all is well, I attended a wonderful Welsh choir rehearsal recently and was goodly amazed. Eebahgum (talk) 11:32, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for coming over, always a pleasure. Define good, off to hospital. Ach Gott, interesting discussions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it were possible to define goodness, someone would be selling it. Ergo, something of undefinable value which cannot be bought or sold: an evangel. Good luck with your list, it seems very good and useful to me. Eebahgum (talk) 13:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I meant good in terms of well-being. Back home. I don't need "luck" - as I understand it, but reasonable eyes, such as Voceditenore's who gave up. It's the cantata for last Sunday, I should turn to the one for next. For some reason, my articles attract tags this year, - you should have seen (or better not) the load on EuropaChorAkademie (who sang a magnificent War Requiem for me) when it was considered not notable, and Hochschule für Musik Mainz when it was up for deletion. Afterwards, smiling is easy. - I find tags unsightly for our readers, and believe that all concern could be addressed by talk page entries. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:02, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome home, well in being I hope. Yes, something feels slightly threatening about them, and they usually appear where someone has worked hard to gather a lot of information together. In the time it takes to tag something, the tagger might be doing a bit of homework and finding up the useful references. When one thinks of the unreferenced squalor that prevails in some places, it seems hard to face exacting taskmasters where a considerable effort has been made. I felt like that here (who decides what to leave out?), but I take the editor's point and hope to extend the text when I have something useful to add, and hoffentlich that will redress the balance. Your exposition of that Cantata, its context in the oeuvre, its religious meaning and structure, and its sources, is really excellent. You teach us all, and we are enriched by you. Eebahgum (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This is the version I found this morning. I spent a considerable time of the day to find supporting sources for facts all nicely together here but not acceptable to one critic. I would have preferred to add to the next cantata, Ah, poor sinner that I am. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well I think calling him "the founding father of truly authentic baroque musical practice with extensive use of original instruments" ought to satisfy someone! And what a positive review into the bargain. I complement you on your footnote and all that it portends, and I wish you well, poor sinner, for the next episode. Eebahgum (talk) 00:28, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Now we look at Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Beatles

The Beatles are greater than Bach! PumpkinSky talk 21:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for returning that color to my talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ROFL. You're supposed to get riled up when I said that. I'm still not doing major editing. Bach was a solo act. To paraphrase someone, The Beatles were like have Mozart, Beethoven, and Schubert all in one group. PumpkinSky talk 21:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I want to hold your hand ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ROFL SCOMN !!!!! Du nimmst mir den Verstand ;-) (a line in the Deutsch version of that song, if you recall) PumpkinSky talk 21:49, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I recall Yesterday ;) - Hey Jude - I was reverted. Midnight where I live, and I promised refs for the recordings of Marc Soustrot for DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We finally got Revolver through GA after years of thinking about it. Now, turn off your mind, relax and float downstream..... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:42, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Across the Universe!!!!! I read the news, today... um — Iadmctalk  15:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Long overdue thanks for reminding me I was Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago. Wow, time flies - and the suddenly revived memory of those days left me with a warm sense of nostalgia.

I don't do much editing around here these days, but thought I should leave you this to show my appreciation. I haven't given anyone a barnstar for about 10 years now, so I guess it serves you well! :-) Keep up the good work! Húsönd 19:37, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Golden Quackstar
An ancient Wikipedian award, for your efforts to revive memory. Húsönd 19:37, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, made me smile ;) - I'll put it in my treasure chest called blushing. - I wasn't around 10 years ago, but inherited the (almost daily) exercise of memory and thanks which is god for me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes or italics

Hi Gerda

I'd be interested to know how the title formatting works usually for classical music titles. Do you italicize major works and put minor works in quotes? I know that for popular music, albums are usually italics and individual songs quotes, but not immediately clear how that would translate to other music forms. I note that in your original DYK nom at Template:Did you know nominations/Martin Janus, you put it in italics (suggesting "major work" from MOS:ITALICS), but the title itself in the article is not italicised. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Titles are usually italics, in title case. Very few are not: songs, hymns, poems, - probably because they usually begin with a long incipit that would look strange in title case, but needs to be distinguished from the rest of the text. I didn't write Jesu, Joy ..., and until just now didn't look ;) - It is now italic. Rule of thumb: title case needs italic, sentence case quotation marks. - Past midnight, that's all I can offer right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, and thanks for that answer! We can discuss it some more in the future, since it's late, no hurry. I'm interested by your sentence case comment, because that doesn't fit with the pop song model - song titles like Come On Eileen, Hey Jude, Shape of You etc. are certainly in title case, but with the MOS:ITALICS rule they're classed as subsidiary to their albums, and are put in quotes throughout. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 22:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am not familiar with songs and albums, would like to learn. I deal with cantatas and their movements, and didn't read the MOS much, but followed what others did before me: Cantata title italic, movement title italic (usually a complex structure), but when the text is referred to just as text, quotation marks. - What do you think of my request for Hey Jude? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"didn't read the MOS much" - you don't want to, it's even less interesting than the telephone directory. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:58, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
just went over the links for Marc Soustrot, sticking to my new year's resolution, however tempted not to - What do YOU think about Hey Jude and the Requiem for a young poet? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did a quick book search and found Music in Germany Since 1968 (Cambridge Press, 2013) which says "The final Donna nobis pachem starts by combining tapes of Stalin, Goebbels and Churchill with the orchestra, placing them alongside "Hey Jude"". Given multiple book sources mention this, I don't see with an issue with dropping it in, although in 1969 the Beatles were here, there and everywhere (if you'll excuse the pun). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:26, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Were "everywhere", but not necessarily quoted in a major piece of classical music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It did seem like a sensible point to include, although it's unclear whether it was reverted purely because there was no source, or because the reverting editor thought it genuinely didn't belong. Perhaps both. The only thing is, if we start a new "Legacy" section with only that fact in, it becomes a bit unbalanced. The song clearly has a bit more legacy than just Requiem for a young poet  — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you two go to the talk page with these comments, but perhaps wait for the reverter to be unblocked, to be fair, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marc Soustrot

On 21 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marc Soustrot, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Marc Soustrot conducted a staging of both Debussy's cantata La Damoiselle élue and Honegger's oratorio Jeanne d'Arc au bûcher at the Frankfurt Opera in 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marc Soustrot. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Marc Soustrot), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

IronGargoyle (talk) 12:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For always being so kind and helpful at the same time! Alex ShihTalk 18:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Email

— Yash talk stalk 05:49, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Responded, take care! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

I am using the FA article on Kafka as an example for students learning about Wikipedia. What brilliant work you and collaborators have done on this piece, am I right in seeing that you've watched/edited the page for many years? Thanks for your efforts with Wikipedia, your on-wiki style and work is clearly a model others should aspire to follow. :) Monikasj (talk) 23:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What a lovely note, thank you! Please copy it to my friend PumpkinSky (look above for The Beatles), who was the motor behind improving the article, - I served only as the person speaking German. You are right: many people are behind it, and that's what I like about Wikipedia. - I will store this baklava with the last I received, from a sadly missed friend. You made my day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And thank you for responding. I'm delighted to join small group of baklava givers, I hope someday you will be able to reconnect with your missed friend. I will definitely pass along a sweet treat of thanks to PumpkinSky -- the article is truly a masterpiece! I'm excited to feature it for course participants (library staff:)) next week. Monikasj (talk) 19:34, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All the best for that, with thanks! (signing late:) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Precious

The Good Heart Barnstar The Good Heart Barnstar
Thank you very much, really! You are truly kind towards everyone! — Anakimilambaste   02:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

blushing, again --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Random question

Hey Gerda, forgive me if this has come up possibly many times before (there is no search box here...). I know you don't like all the drama and stuff, but I was wondering like, man, what would you happen if you run for adminship. Alex ShihTalk 07:49, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This has been asked before, and the best response was by Dr. Blofeld who said it would be like making the princess janitor. - If I wanted (but I don't), I'd expect something like my friend's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Barns, stars, etc.

Great Coxwell Tithe Barn

I don't do barnstars, but here's a big barn near where I live. MinorProphet (talk) 23:44, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that is impressive! No article? - I also don't do barnstars, I remember the designer and the photographer of Precious on a daily basis - well almost daily. The photographer is active on the commons, DYK? He received the prize ten years ago! I lost the other, framed the barn his way. You also met him in my edit notice, and he made the image on my user page. - I just found a new field needing work: Recent deaths. The conductor listed today engaged the soprano listed below, who sang (right afterwards) Bach for us, - small world. Also not (yet) in the article. - If you - or my friendly watchers - could add a few references to Peter Hall (director), he might appear, too. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Basilica of St. James, Levoča

On 17 September 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Basilica of St. James, Levoča, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Basilica of St. James in Levoča contains the world's tallest carved wooden altar (pictured)? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Basilica of St. James, Levoča), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:02, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

Admit it, you want a goat too! Goats are adorable. Unfortunately I can't have a pet goat because I live in the middle of the city, on the third floor.

(((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 21:49, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know I wanted one but like it, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Haben Sie zur Wahlen gegangen? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:43, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I voted by mail because an 80th birthday was celebrated today, and I enjoyed being offline. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As we all know, Gerda, goats don't vote. But hey, maybe they shave? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I voted, just can't say I "bin zur Wahl gegangen" when I didn't walk but did it by mail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Michael Wollny

On 23 September 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Michael Wollny, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the jazz pianist Michael Wollny was artist in residence of the Rheingau Musik Festival, he played a concert with Andreas Schaerer, Émile Parisien and Vincent Peirani? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Wollny. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Michael Wollny), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 12:03, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's just the language difference, but more likely it is my ignorance with music. I cannot seem to link the pieces she was noted for playing with the composers who wrote them. Okay, I get that none of Camargo Guarnieri, nor Leopoldo Miguez's pieces have blue links, but I would've thought I could link the Villa-Lobos ones. I also am dying to know what pieces all of those composers wrote to her, but I have no way to figure it out. Maybe if you aren't too busy, you could try to link some of the music to her? (Hope you are doing well. Seems like it has been forever since we chatted.) SusunW (talk) 22:04, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds interesting. It's past midnight, and will travel early, so not now, - and look above, many more I postponed ;) - I don't get to my topics even, just look at the talk of Der Messias. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Someday when you have spare time if you are still interested. There is no rush. Sleep well. SusunW (talk) 22:19, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see the top DYK, nominated by me, not written, - love the image! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Susun, finally, I got to looking, but sadly I can't find composition articles. Good story, her life! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Glad you enjoyed it :) SusunW (talk) 21:08, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thank you

Thanks for your thanks, Gerda. Useless/irrelevant/robotic warnings are so common — but when I saw two of them together, from two different people, both fairly threatening, on an otherwise pretty empty user talkpage, it got to me. There's a lot of talk about how people who say "fuck" discourage other users and make them leave the project because of the "uncivil environment" — I doubt that — but a set of thickheaded warnings, now, that's enough to discourage anybody. Bishonen | talk 22:43, 3 October 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you for coming over, Bish, - I almost see the three birds that make for a pleasant environment when I arrive at your talk! Can we somehow have this edit notice as a general one, for every editor's first entry per day (or week)? It means different things to different people, sure, but sets a direction. - I find that most robotic messages are not civil, and that what article tags say could be done in personal talk. - I hope you enjoyed my jazz today, which will give way now to Love's Labour's Lost, - what a wonderful title for so much of what we do here ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Love's Labour's Lost (opera)

On 4 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Love's Labour's Lost (opera), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nicholas Nabokov composed an opera Love's Labour's Lost, setting the same play by Shakespeare as the fictional hero of Mann's Doctor Faustus, "in a spirit of the most artificial mockery"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Love's Labour's Lost (opera). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Love's Labour's Lost (opera)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 03:49, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Symphoniae sacrae I

On 18 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Symphoniae sacrae I, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Heinrich Schütz published his Symphoniae sacrae I, a collection of 20 "eloquent, sensitive, and often sensuous" settings of biblical texts, in 1629 in Venice, where he studied with Monteverdi? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Symphoniae sacrae I. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Symphoniae sacrae I), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gerda for your general awesomeness. Alex ShihTalk 08:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I just shouldn't click too fast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

You made me smile (again...). Keep doing that and I might have to put you back in that category. I'm still not sure how you ever squirmed your way out of it. I thought I forbade that? -- Begoon 10:35, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Who listens to you? (I obediently stayed in the cat as long as it was active, but red, - people would not know that you put me there.) - I love to be in Category:Wikipedians who make others smile? - I hope the arbs will listen to you. - Can you take a look at BWV 80 where 2 images hover above the no-I-promised-not-to-mention-that-word. (Comments in the peer review, if any.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well nobody listens to me, which is probably wise. I actually prefer the first image at the top there (although it shouldn't have the "forced" size), but not really the second one, but I'm an image junkie so maybe the wrong person to ask. -- Begoon 11:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like them there, both, as having nothing to do with the particular piece, just more (1) or less (2) pretty illustration. Someone should write an article about that stained-glass window! This is music, not from the 20th century as the image style lets you assume. Let me not say what I think of a depiction of Luther and Bach in colloquial talk, anyway. I like this (with the title translated to something visible) and this (the composer's handwriting). Any image should better be not too long, and not hover above (not even one of them), but be included. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You make a fair point, that the images don't necessarily specifically illustrate the article about the musical piece, per se. As I said, I'm an image junkie, and I like articles being illustrated, so that biases me. -- Begoon 11:46, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How do you like this, and this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
They both look good. I might play with the contrast on File:Coburg-Casimirianum.jpg tomorrow. -- Begoon 12:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

St Fin Barre's

Morning. I've done some moving around with the images, trimmed to create more breathing space, and replaced where they are more fitting with the text; can you take another look. I do like the idea of a gallery, but need to take some more pictures first! Hold tough on that one, to follow.... Ceoil (talk) 09:02, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Morning, thanks for coming over, - take your time. I briefly looked and liked it, but have little time, - here we knew for a while that 500 years reformation would be on Tuesday, but I am still behind, on a translation to German of the sun of justice in our time, a sandbox article here, improvements to Luther's list of hymns and many more, ... - Would you have a look at the peer review of BWV 80, the cantata that looks like stained glass? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Interested, though I see you are in the wars on the PR page; don't want to get sucked into all that, so will edit direct, and comment at the eventual, I hope, FAC. Impressed overall, the lead image and subject matter has me, and yes will help. By concidence this will be my next thing; the location is an annual pilgrimage for me. We do seem to have similar taste. Hope all is well. Ceoil (talk) 09:33, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't call it war ;) - I'll sort out the one/two stanza thing, - the first was instrumental only, is it 1 1/2 then? (I almost unwatched, mentally.) - Yesterday's project was a church, - short, perhaps check for terms? Will I learn how to call parts of an altar? The altar would deserve an article! As a student, I lived a few blocks away for some time. - I love teh pilgrimage location but made it only once. - Yes well, just had health checked. I will hear the cantata on Tuesday, which is my sisters "round" birthday, - she says that our extra national holiday is for that reason ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ha ha. I lived as a student a few doors from St. Fin Barres, back in the 90s, and when walking home from different 'adventures' we would always amaze at its strangeness - remember Ireland was dirt poor in the 19th c, and the cathedral is really the only significant building Cork has, and by such a renowned ('infamous' according to Tim) architect. Have live in at times, and visited Germany for years, particularly Munich and Erfurt, and the architectural standards and splendure in those cities might as well be on the moon compared to here. Ceoil (talk) 09:54, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Friendly watcher Hello you two! Just to write, I prefer "Good morning". Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 10:35, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning, Gareth! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
<cough> Ceoil (talk) 22:45, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Returning from the annual pilgrimage to this, I find your enigmatic cough. How are you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I'm assuming most of the Reformation dyks are your work. I had hoped to write some but got busy, so I'm glad to see there are at least a few. Thanks and happy Reformation day! --JFH (talk) 18:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC) JFH (talk) 18:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thany, you, appreciated! Yes, the four planned to come are my work, - with help of others, as I like it. The one I thought was most suitable will not appear that day. I should probably be happy because then it has the chance to come with the image, but - I am not. May reformation never end ;) - this is on my user page from 18 October 2012. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet

On 31 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the communion song "Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet" ("God be praised and blessed"), which Martin Luther (pictured) derived from an older model, entered Catholic hymnals in the 20th century? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this!

Lovely little tidbit from the DYK for Gott sei gelobet und gebenedeiet. Nice little ecumenical tidbit on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:49, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, TonyBallioni! Back from listening to Bach's cantata on "Ein feste Burg" which existed only briefly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sonne der Gerechtigkeit

On 8 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sonne der Gerechtigkeit, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that facing the rise of Nazi ideology, Otto Riethmüller compiled the song "Sonne der Gerechtigkeit" for young people from hymns by three authors of two earlier centuries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sonne der Gerechtigkeit. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sonne der Gerechtigkeit), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for St. Stefanus, Ghent

On 10 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Stefanus, Ghent, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that St. Stefanus, Ghent, was the venue of a concert dedicated to the Martin Luther Year, featuring Max Reger's setting of Psalm 100? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Stefanus, Ghent. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, St. Stefanus, Ghent), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ghent

I have sung in St. Stefanus, Ghent. It was with reaidng Bach Choir. I also sing often with JanJoost van Elburg, chorusmaster at the Westerkerk, Amsterdam. Guy (Help!) 23:20, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Auguste Le Guennant

On 14 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Auguste Le Guennant, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Auguste Le Guennant, the director of the Gregorian Institute of Paris, had Duruflé's Quatre Motets sur des thèmes grégoriens dedicated to him? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Auguste Le Guennant. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Auguste Le Guennant), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was wondering why this title Gloria isn't italicized? Or maybe it should be in quotes, like "Gloria in excelsis Deo"? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Viola Sonata, a Requiem, a Magnificat, a Gloria - Italian and Latin expressions that became part of English, - that's what I understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. That makes sense! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Aegidienkirche, Hanover

On 18 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aegidienkirche, Hanover, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a Hiroshima peace bell was donated to the Aegidienkirche, the ruin of a Gothic church that was left as a war memorial? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aegidienkirche, Hanover. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Aegidienkirche, Hanover), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Five year post

I have removed the post you placed on my talk page as it did not make any sense. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 12:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) How rude is that~!~? Precious. Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 12:56, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher)--Bradbury, are you all right?! That was definitely one of the rudest actions, I came across in my wiki-life.Winged Blades Godric 15:16, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(by talk page stalker) There must be a misunderstanding. I'm not sure how a longtime editor and admin does not understand the PumpkinSky Prize. Perhaps a templated warning would have been better received? Chris Troutman (talk) 15:28, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have never heard of the pumpkin sky prize, nor did I recognize it when it appeared on my talk page with a comment about five years (why five) which meant, and means, nothing to me. And it is not rude to remove posts from one's own talk page. Gareth, if that is the rudest thing you have seen here you have been exceptionally fortunate. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Anthony Bradbury: As the link provided indicates, you were awarded the prize five years ago and she was taking today to remind you. I know you've been editing Wikipedia for a minute but it's still important to click on links and read the content therein if the text on your talk page doesn't seem to communicate the point to you. I'd recommend using more attention to detail. It's quite a kick in the teeth for Gerda to send a nice message to someone only for them to revert. Maybe you need stronger coffee. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:14, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Some are able to find and follow a link, - thanks for support in explaining. Returning from singing about sempiternam requiem, so quite immune. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Could you put a better picture for the walter model Wiki?

The picture is to grainy and does not show his clearly Feaster253 (talk) 22:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry. Many images of that era are that way, - in a way showing the time. - I have nothing to do with the article but having it on my watchlist. Better raise the question on the article's talk page than here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Things are changing, I see! Hasn't taken long, has it? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely. Made a DYK about her, minutes ago in comparison, DYK? Sunshine, no time for editing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
After a hike with rainbow: I had another DYK about such a tradition broken, just 900 years ;) - Btw: did you find the 2005 version of the fast burger? Hint: it went to an archive, but not of its own page. And here they talk above teeth (above): someone not understanding a well-meaning reminder, truly harmless. DYK that Precious became part of this? Its still the prize of the cabal of the outcasts, so I understand people who don't want to be associated with it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, discussions with you can often be intriguing. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC) p.s. hope got some landscape, too.[reply]
I took a few pics of rosehips in the sun in front of a wild sky, but the rainbow wasn't as spectacular as others I took previously. It wasn't far from the pic of the day of 22 Nov, different season obviously. Article needs improvements, says the cabal. Floq, did you hear me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gloria (Rutter)

On 20 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Gloria (Rutter), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on his first commission from the US, John Rutter composed Gloria as a concert piece for choir, brass, percussion, and organ? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gloria (Rutter). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Gloria (Rutter)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar of European Merit

The Barnstar of European Merit
I, Vami_IV, award the Barnstar of European Merit to Gerda Arendt for their participation in the European 10,000 Challenge, no matter how minor. This one was long in coming. Gerda, thank you so much for everything you do on the English Wikipedia. It was a pleasure to meet and work with you. –Vami_IV✠ 02:26, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
this WikiAward was given to Gerda Arendt by Vami_IV✠ on 02:26, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren

On 23 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the simple hymn "Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren", used at the end of a meal, became a model for other songs of thanks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nun laßt uns Gott dem Herren), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bwv 572

Hi Gerda, thank you for your query, but i'm not sure I understand your concern.

By “Ringk's copy” I mean the copy made by J Ringk in c.1735. This date has been on this page for many years and is probably correct to within a year or two. It is derived from observations of how Ringk's musical handwriting developed over his teenage years. As a music copyist gains experience, he becomes more consistent on details such as whether the tie lines on semiquaver groups are straight or curved, the angle of note stems to the vertical, etc. This manuscript is clearly more mature than the work we know Ringk copied when he was twelve, but is equally clearly still a teenage work.

Does that answer your query? Bajanorganist (talk) 03:45, 23 November 2017 (UTC) Bajanorganist (talk) 03:45, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you! Nice to meet you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]