Template talk:List of Sikh Gurus

Sukh, the vast majority of readers of the English wikipedia describe one's age by the integer number of fully completed years. It would therefore be inaccurate to describe someone dying at the age of eight when that person at no point had lived through his eighth year.

Is it common in the Subcontinent or in Sikh society to describe one's age by rounding to the nearest integer?

--Adamrush 17:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you do have a good point there :D I think the figure needs to be changed in other language wikis too. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 01:23, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look through the other ages, too. --Adamrush 14:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In the main article for Guru Nanak, the date of birth is listed as 20 October, instead of 15 April.

For Guru Amar Das, the date of birth is listed as both 5 April and 5 May.

For Guru Gobind Singh, the date of death is listed as both 6 October and 7 October.

Are these conflicts between the Julian and Gregorian calendars? (Which could get really complicated) Or are they simply mistakes? --Adamrush 14:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A simple Google search, suggests Guru Nanak's date of birth is 20 October, Guru Amar Das's birthday has lots of hits for both dates and finally Guru Gobind Singh appears to have died on 7 October. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:56, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and the problems may be due to a mix between the Nanakshahi calendar (dates for Gurus at: [1] in Punjabi) and the Hindu calendar (see also Bikram Sambat). We probably need to mention both. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 01:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What the world needs is fewer calendars. Stardate -1138.90: We are investigating an anomaly in a western sector of Punjab... --Adamrush 06:37, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've add this template because we can't be sure of the birth/death dates yet. Also there is the problem of using more than one calendar for conversion, so this does need looking at and clarifying. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good source could be [2]. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 16:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also [3] and [4]. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 12:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have verified the dates listed in the table. Primarily based on what the SGPC says [5] and secondarily based on All About Sikhs [6]. Most dates are from the SGPC site, however the ones I couldn't find are from the other site:

These are based on the old lunar Hindu calendar and *not* on the Nanakshahi calendar.

• Guru Amar Das - Guruship (SGPC web site mentions March only, no day given) - Used AAS date instead.
• Guru Arjan Dev - Guruship (SGPC web site mentions no date) - Used AAS date instead.
• Guru Har Gobind - Guruship (SGPC web site mentions 1606 only) - Used AAS date instead.
• Guru Har Rai - Date of Birth (SGPC web site mentions no date) - Used AAS date instead.
• Guru Teg Bahadur - Guruship (SGPC web site mentions no date) - Used AAS date instead (same date as was here before).

I haven't double checked guru's parents names or ages but they should be okay. However, there are so many differing dates out there for the dates involving the gurus, I cannot be 100% sure these are correct. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 17:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the guruship date of Guru Nanak to the one on All About Sikhs [7] when he was believed to have received his calling from God (20 August 1507). Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is the firm belief of Sikhs that Guru Nanak was ordained Guru since birth . Mpsinghdelhi 14:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)mpsinghdelhi[reply]

That's fine. But what then do you call his "enlightentment" when emerging from the Kali Bein? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 22:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]