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Postal Star Scandal

Postmaster John Creswell was associtated with a postal route contracting scandal that involved exorbitant fees and and excessive increase in the amount of postal routes. I am considering adding this as another scandal. The total scandals would then be 12. {Cmguy777 (talk) 16:55, 8 April 2010 (UTC)}[reply]

POV and unsourced material

Removed from the article. The information is POV and not sourced. This information is not necessarily false. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article offers the contemporary opinions of the political opponents of the 14th Amendment and Reconstruction as if they were the careful examinations of a dispassionate audit committee. President Grant was relentlessly attacked by Democrats and other "reformers" (sic) who were literally appalled at Grant's belief that the Federal government had an obligation to defend the Constitutional rights of black-skinned Americans to vote and own firearms and property. Grant was hardly an unsophisticated man about money and accounting. His "humble" family were capitalists who built a chain of stores that sold saddles, harnesses and tack (they were for the 19th century what auto parts stores are for this one). Grant was the first President to require the government to keep its own books using double entry accounting. As even the author of this article concedes, the Grant Administration's own audits of the government's accounts provided all the financial information that brought to light the "scandals" outlined below. Read with great caution.
The above statement may have elements of the truth, however, there needs to be some source to back up these statements. I personally agree Grant's Democratic critics were racially motivated to discredit the President's Reconstruction policy protecting African American rights. However, there needs to be a documented source for this statement. This is not a main article on Grant's political opponents, but rather, the scandals themselves. The scandals have been thoroughly researched and documented. There were dishonest men and women during the Guilded Age in an unregulated pursuit of wealth. During this time riches were highly desired and financial morals were very low after the American Civil War. Historian Woodward aptly points this out. Grant did not cause the scandals, however, he at times ineffectively as Executor of the United States could not keep control of his associates and cabinet appointees and was reluctant to have them prosecuted. Righteous indignation or self-righteousness in terms of other people's financial indiscretions or illegal activities were not in Grant's character. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grant Cabinet editors needed

I have been attempting to expand the articles of Grant's cabinet appointments. I believe this will help in understanding President Grant's two terms in office. Included examples are Hamilton Fish, William W. Belknap, and George S. Boutwell. Grant had a revolving door cabinet so any help from other editors is needed and appreciated. Thanks. Cmguy777 (talk) 22:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here are Grant Cabinet members that need editing. Cmguy777 (talk) 22:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Causes of national corruption

The Hopkin Mansion, 1875–1906, formerly located on Nob Hill in San Francisco, California, represented the enormous wealth generated during the American industrial revolution.

The scandals in the Grant Administration were indicative of greater national moral decline. According to one respected historian, C. Vann Woodward, there are three primary forces that caused national corruption during this time period. The most compelling event that lead to corruption was the Civil War itself, unleashing a torrent of human depravity, deaths and unscrupulously gained riches enabled by persons who rose from deserved obscurity to powerful military and civilian positions. These men—the claim agents, speculators, subsidy-seekers, government contractors, and the all-purpose crooks—were born from the war and entered politics after the fighting stopped. The second generator of corruption was the opening of the West and South to unrestrained exploitation that caused older parts of the country to fall into moral confusion. The third cause, according to Vann Woodward, was the rapid rise of American industrialism, which loosened the nation's standards and values. Americans found themselves released from discipline and restraint by the rapid growth of industrial wealth after the Civil War.[1]

Treaty of Fort Laramie

Breach of Treaty of Fort Laramie

The 1868 Treaty of Fort Laramie was signed the year before Grant took office. He guaranteed that he would keep the West free of war, and staked his administration to a Peace Policy that was designed to assimilate Plains nation tribes into the Euro-American population. The economic crisis and the need for a financial solution, coincided with the discovery of gold in the Black Hills. In 1874, Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer led an expedition of 1,000 men into the Black Hills to scout a site for a military post. This mission was personally approved by President Grant. But Custer also brought along two prospectors outfitted at his own expense. When Western congressmen demanded Grant annex the land, he organized a White House cabal to plan a war against the Lakotas. In May 1875, a delegation of Lakota chiefs arrived at the White House. Their purpose was to protest shortages of government rations and the corrupt Indian agent. Grant told the chiefs that the rations had run out and were continuing only due to the kindness of the government. Further, he insisted that the Great Father (himself) was powerless to prevent miners from entering the territory. Grant appointed a commission to buy mining rights during a grand council on the Great Sioux Reservation. Both Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull refused to attend. The commission reported that force was necessary to begin negotiations.

This section has more to do with gold, land grabbing, and Indian policy, not corruption or scandals. Indians were viewed by law in 1871 wards of the state no longer as nations. This made the Treaty of Fort Laramie, less legally enforcable. Neither the Democratic, Liberal Republican, nor Republican, parties opposed such and aggressive take over of the Black Hills. Cmguy777 (talk) 21:15, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference C. Vann Woodward was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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