User talk:Morrelln

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Best regards! Neo-Jay (talk) 20:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UK Parliament thesaurus IDs[edit]

Hi! I'm curious that recently you seem to have quite often been adding the same UK Parliament thesaurus ID (P4527) value to multiple items -- eg Lewes (Q246884) / Lewes (Q1254688) / Lewes (Q1070328) all pointing to 11317.

The match from the parliamentary constituency (Lewes (Q1070328)) certainly looks appropriate. But how sure are you about the other two? Myself, I don't know enough about the thesaurus to know whether it distinguishes between the different Lewes entities, but given that that is part of the point of a thesaurus -- to nail down and distinguish different things that otherwise might get muddled together -- it seems entirely possible that the thesaurus might well distinguish between eg different Lewes entities, so the matches for the different wikidata items should not all be to the same thesaurus entry. I don't know if you have any contacts with the thesaurus team, but it might be something to check with them?

But thanks for your work on this, and for taking this valuable property in hand. Jheald (talk) 10:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jheald: Hi, and thanks for checking this. As it happens I am part of the thesaurus team! Two issues: (1) The version of the thesaurus available at data.parliament.uk isn't fully updated and doesn't include our scope notes on usage. We're working on it, but there are IT dependencies, we can't just fix it ourselves. (2) We sometimes use the thesaurus in surprising ways. A name like Lewes or Lincoln could be the place, or the district, or the constituency, and we've used a single term to cover all cases. (Very rarely we've created multiple terms, e.g. Richmond (Yorks) for the constituency and Richmond (North Yorkshire) for the town.) Place/constituency is the biggest example of this and what I'm working on at the moment; we added multiple QID fields to our thesaurus interface only last week... --Morrelln (talk) 16:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I hope that Morrelln is removing wrong matches from MM corresponding to reverted edits... Matlin (talk) 07:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]