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10-21-2014, 04:41 PM
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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The decline I mentioned is less than one percent, and applies to the entire "larger Bay View" area where large, ageing families have been replaced by singles and couples without kids. Last night I also read that the population has increased since 2010, so perhaps some of these couples are having kids. Without having exact numbers at hand, it is very likely that certain key (more historic/central) areas of Bay View (the densest areas along or near KK Ave.) have seen an increase. The current alderman has been pushing the development of new-fangled multi-unit housing along KK with hopes of building up population density, and many homebuyers are finding the area suitable and affordable, so I think Bay View's future will continue in this fashion.
In some ways, the popularity of Bay View was only a matter of time. The area is near downtown and by the lake. Housing prices on the East Side and North Shore are outrageous: you can get more house for less in Bay View. My husband and I started our house search in the East Side and North Shore, but we just couldn't afford to pay that kind of money for the type of house and features we wanted. We finally looked at the South Shore and really fell in love with Bay View. Like you say, it has a great culture of its own and isn't entirely spoiled by gentrification and chain stuff. There are a lot of LGBT folks on our block, and there's a mix of blue collar and white collar people. I can take the bus to work when I want, and Humboldt Park is just steps from my house.
If Milwaukee (city and metro) were growing in population at a rate closer to the national average, the transformation would have taken place a lot sooner, and other South Shore communities like St. Francis and Cudahy would be seeing similar shifts. I hope the area can keep its unique character as changes occur, but change in some fashion is always inevitable.
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Very true about the cost of houses in north shore. While Shorewood and Whitefish Bay are kind of the "premiere" areas as far as single family homes near the lake go, you WILL pay for it.
You are coming from Chicago... So perhaps the WB/Shorewood homes may still be a bargain, but your dollar will go a LOT further down in Bay View / St. Francis.
OP mentioned 500k in Chicago... Shoot, even just 300k would have you sitting quite pretty in BV/SF.
Honestly, I would ditch Tosa altogether... To me, Tosa is a bit caught in between two worlds and it's identity suffers a bit because of that. It's not quite in the real 'burbs and it's too far out to be urban. There are some tired areas mixed in with some beautiful, maintained areas. They recently updated the park off of 68th and State which is used often by many, but just a couple blocks to the east is an awkward and half abandoned industrial wasteland mixed with senior living.
Tosa's best neighborhood is probably the Washington heights area, but if you go a bit further North, it depreciates quickly. To the west, still in Tosa is Mayfair Mall... Which when compared to Bayshore or even the Mom n Pops running along KK, is certainly the worst of the bunch.
I believe Tosa is the least predictable out of all the areas... It seems like a community that's going in all different directions... Whereas Shorewood/WB, Bay View and St. Francis are a lot more established with what they are becoming.
I definitely agree with Empi and Cheese on how there is a bit of a "Passing of the Torch" thing going on in Bay View. Back when a lot of the original Bay View people bought those houses, it WAS the burbs. So to see it's shift into a more urban, younger feel is probably weird to them. I think this in-between period is slightly uncomfortable for some, but Bay View is getting A LOT of smaller, independent businesses which people in that area will undoubtably support and is a great thing for it's future.
Hate to sound harsh, but once the old timers fade away, Bay View will really come into it's own. I wouldn't say it's 100% there quite yet (which is why I've hesitated on Bay View before), but it's getting there.
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11-04-2014, 02:57 PM
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So, we have now visited twice. We went around the city much more this time, we wanted to give all areas a real shot. We actually love North Point, it's very, very similar to wear we live now, but what would be the point of that? We are trying to simplify our lives so we nixed that pretty quick, although I'm sure we will love spending time there and Brady Street. Same for Third Ward, plus it didn't seem child friendly with the lack of green space. We also went out to Wauwatosa, lovely area, just didn't seem like us, maybe a little too gentrified/established? Although, we kind of liked the west side, but I've seen a lot of talk on here about that area being a little "questionable." Anyhow, coming from Chicago I think we may have a different measuring stick for crime and safety than some transplants coming from smaller communities. In the end it is most definitely going to be Bay View, this time we drove around to very specific areas, played at Humboldt Park twice and once at South Shore park, great weather this weekend which was nice considering Chicago had snow the night before for Halloween. We realized that we absolutely love the north east area of Bay View, places us by both the main drag for restaurants and the lakefront, which is kind of a must for me (another reason why Wauwatosa really didn't fit for me).
So, the move should take place this spring, obviously we will continue to watch Craigslist for a place but just wondering where else folks find rentals? Do any agents or relo specialists do rentals? We would love to rent either a small house or duplex for under 1,500/month, doable?
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11-05-2014, 09:18 AM
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Location: Milwaukee
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We realized that we absolutely love the north east area of Bay View, places us by both the main drag for restaurants and the lakefront, which is kind of a must for me (another reason why Wauwatosa really didn't fit for me).
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You are looking at "my" area of town specifically - I think you'll love it. It's grown like crazy since I've been here (7 years) and will continue to do so. I'm afraid I can't help much in the search beyond the usual places, but $1,500 a month would get you pretty much anything you wanted. You could get a very nice place for much less than that.
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11-06-2014, 07:46 AM
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Thanks, good to know. It would be great to go less than that as we are hoping to keep our condo in Chicago as an investment which means saving for a down payment without getting money from a sale. Besides we would live more breathing room in our budget, one of the main motivating factors for moving is to not feel stressed about money.
All of this information is extremely helpful, we are so looking forward to this move, can't wait to be in Milwaukee for the summer. My family might actually visit us now since they won't need to deal with Chicago!!
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11-08-2014, 07:49 AM
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Location: La Jolla, CA
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We would love to rent either a small house or duplex for under 1,500/month, doable?
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Yes.
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