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04-05-2014, 12:24 AM
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Location: Milwaukee
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Not only that but water is missing from the lake now because of dredging or I'm not even exactly even sure what. I need to read up on that.
And I didn't mean people want to have a beer with you because they are so friendly just that when it comes to civic things it seems like milwaukee would rather just enjoy life then worry about it.
I do think heritage effects the populations though. Have you ever lived in minnesota? It definitely does effect it.
Sorry this post can probably be boiled down to me saying uh-huh.
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04-06-2014, 01:51 PM
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I do! I don't think the European connotation is all that significant. MKE's German culture is practically limited to Mader's Restaurant, a few German themed bars and a few other tourist traps. Likewise, MPLS's Scandinavian culture is also diluted in a city that wants and strives to be hip and trendy to make a name for itself.
I find that people in MKE almost always have an opinion, and I don't see the "I don't know you but let's have a beer" mentality here. MKE is very cliquish and stand-offish. I found people in MPLS to be quite friendly to me, whereas here in German-land, it's the opposite. Not saying everyone here is like that, but many/most are, and I have lived here for the bulk of my life.
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You find that people in Milwaukee almost always have an opinion, whereas people in Minneapolis either don't or are more passive-aggressive about it, and you DON'T think old world sensibilities have affected the culture of both cities? This, and people of German/Scandinavian heritage having more/less assimilated into the American mainstream isn't exactly an either-or proposition.
I also think there's something to be said for the fact that Milwaukee started off as 3 different cities, and never truly stopped being 3 different cities (4, if you count Bay View); and often feel like the way that's affected the culture in Milwaukee isn't brought to light often enough. It probably accounts for a lot of the "cliquishness" that you're seeing. The difference now is that instead of having neighborhoods based on ethnicity (aside from the obvious exception of people who are still considered racial minorities), they're more based on lifestyle.
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04-07-2014, 07:46 PM
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I find that people in MKE almost always have an opinion, and I don't see the "I don't know you but let's have a beer" mentality here. MKE is very cliquish and stand-offish. I found people in MPLS to be quite friendly to me, whereas here in German-land, it's the opposite. Not saying everyone here is like that, but many/most are, and I have lived here for the bulk of my life.
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I've lived in both cities for several years and found it to be the opposite of what you mention. People in Milwaukee are much more down to earth whereas people from MPLS-St. Paul can be much more judgmental/secluded.
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04-14-2014, 09:55 PM
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Location: Milwaukee, WI
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No, fonitin, I never lived in Mpls, just visited a few times and going again this summer. If summer ever arrives!
No, MKEastsider, I'm not saying old world sensibilites have not affected the culture of these cities at all, they probably have. I dont think that that old world mentality is all that prevalent. Well maybe in MKE where there's still some of the old guard that doesn't want to let go of the past, but it is changing slowly. Like all changes in MKE take place slowly if ever. I never heard anything about MKE being 3-4 separate cities, unless you're thinking of MKE spilling into and swallowing up some of the suburbs.
pete6032, I can only speak of my experiences. I'm sure yours are different. I've heard visitors from other cities tell me that MKE is friendly and I've heard other visitors say it isn't. With so many people there's bound to be some variation. To be honest I don't know what to believe anymore.
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04-15-2014, 09:41 AM
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No, fonitin, I never lived in Mpls, just visited a few times and going again this summer. If summer ever arrives!
No, MKEastsider, I'm not saying old world sensibilites have not affected the culture of these cities at all, they probably have. I dont think that that old world mentality is all that prevalent. Well maybe in MKE where there's still some of the old guard that doesn't want to let go of the past, but it is changing slowly. Like all changes in MKE take place slowly if ever. I never heard anything about MKE being 3-4 separate cities, unless you're thinking of MKE spilling into and swallowing up some of the suburbs.
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Milwaukee started off as Juneautown (East Side), Kilbourntown (North Side), and Walker's Point (South Side)... rival towns that merged in 1846 after the Bridge Wars. Bay View was also its own town until the late 19th century when it too joined Milwaukee. But none of these places ever truly stopped acting like rival towns, and that legacy is quite obvious even today. Bay View residents take it a step further and still write their address as "Bay View, WI."
You'll get no argument with me on that highlighted part though. It's a real pisser.
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04-15-2014, 10:49 AM
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If you want to talk about change, haven't two of the three German restaurants in the city closed ( John Ernst's, Karl Ratsch's), leaving only Mader's left? I've been to Mader's twice, and really enjoyed it, although it's been at least 15 years since the last visit..
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04-15-2014, 12:55 PM
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Location: Milwaukee Ex-ex-ex-urbs
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If you want to talk about change, haven't two of the three German restaurants in the city closed ( John Ernst's, Karl Ratsch's), leaving only Mader's left? I've been to Mader's twice, and really enjoyed it, although it's been at least 15 years since the last visit..
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Ratzsch's is still going strong.
Karl Ratzsch's Milwaukee's Landmark German-American Restaurant Since 1904 - Home
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04-16-2014, 08:59 PM
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I found people in MSP to be horribly uptight. What's up with that?
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04-16-2014, 09:48 PM
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Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I'm from a suburb of Minneapolis, don't really like either Minneapolis or Milwaukee.
But both cities are very different, Minneapolis is very modern and Milwaukee has more character.
and Milwaukee gets pointers for infrastructure.... there is nothing at all like the Marquette Interchange in the Twin Cities.
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04-29-2014, 05:14 PM
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Location: Salinas, CA
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I've lived in both cities for several years and found it to be the opposite of what you mention. People in Milwaukee are much more down to earth whereas people from MPLS-St. Paul can be much more judgmental/secluded.
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WOW...several people living in both places have totally different opinions on this. Could it be that some of you (talking to the other three that talked about this, too) were looking for some characteristics and if you found something that did not fit your preconceived stereotypes of each place, you dismissed it as an "exception"? Just asking. Because which one of you is someone who has never been to either place supposed to believe? (We can't flip a coin, because there are more than two of you. LOL.).
I am wondering if some of these differences are not just "area/neighborhood specific" characteristics in each region rather than both entire regions. Pete, in other words, if you lived in a different neighborhood of the TC, you may get a totally different vibe about the people. I guess it all depends on how often each of you gets out of your own neighborhood, too. I mean some Minneapolis neighborhoods will differ from St.Paul which will differ from Stillwater and Stillwater will differ from Blaine. I don't know Milwaukee as well, but there are probably a few differences in neighborhoods there, too.
Maybe the "default" on this topic is to give more weight to those who have lived in each place for a decade or more. It would be nice to know how long each of you lived in the Twin Cities, Milwaukee, or both. If someone has been in either place two years or less, it is basically meaningless IMO.
I think in the Twin Cities you can find more varied approaches because you have two major cities instead of one and also a larger suburban population. Furthermore, that suburban population, while not as liberal as Minneapolis, certainly has considerable variance in viewpoints depending on location/proximity to the larger cities. You are therefore more likely to find people that have similar opinions and interests in the Twin Cities than in Milwaukee. I know in my 2005 visit to Minnesota (and spent half that time in the TC), I did not have any trouble finding down to earth people. BTW, intelligent people can also be down to earth. You may have a different opinion on that than me.
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