Is Las Vegas worth it (home, living, safe)

lvoc · 09-25-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

The lowest of low-hanging fruit is pulling studies that trash Las Vegas as an awful place to live. I can do that all day and not work up a sweat.

Instead of your usual, "But it's ALSO bad in Phoenix and Los Angeles," why don't you pull up all those studies that show Las Vegas as having the highest quality of life in America -- at least the top quintile.

I'll bet that any that you DO find will zero in on our cost of living compared to income. That's one place where Las Vegas truly does excel. The rest? Not so much.

I often wonder if you have a Pinocchio-like nose from all the Spin Doctoring you do to cast this hellhole in a positive light.

You put forward a thesis that Las Vegas is in the bottom quintile in all sorts of things dealing with quality of life here.

You now run in your standard cowardly fashion that I need to put together some idiotic pitch that Las Vegas is in the first quintile in all sorts of quality of life areas.

My actual view is and remains Las Vegas is an ordinary and average city of the Southwest with an exceptional climate and a wonderful entertainment sphere plus a location that provides very nice access to the American west.

Why don't you simply admit you were wrong and shut up?

qingguy · 09-25-2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FrostyToasty

You live somewhere where the less educated residents of Las Vegas lives and then ironically complain that people are uneducated.

Interesting observation. Can your search for riff raff in the data too? I'd like to see the % of riff raff and riff raff children East side vs. Summerlin.

ddrhazy · 09-25-2015, 05:55 PM

I'd say the population here is not much different than SLC or Phoenix.

qingguy · 09-25-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ddrhazy

I'd say the population here is not much different than SLC or Phoenix.

I grew-up and went to school in SLC, trust me, it's very different and for me not in a good way. Still have family that I visit there; if I'm there more than five days I'm jonesing to leave. Very different.

Just goes to show you, a city that consistently ranks high in livibility polls, education polls etc. isn't for everyone. I have a friend who is in situation similar to Scoops, the moment he can bolt he is, and guess where he's going, Vegas baby!!! Guy can live anywhere in the US he wants and can afford to live wherever he wants, was looking at Phoenix and Vegas and chose Vegas.

SoCalCpl2 · 09-25-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by henderson702

Even Summerlin and good parts of Hendertucky, I mean Henderson, have their pretentious types…its impossible to win here.

My research indicates that the Southeast (and maybe parts of Texas) are the only place in this country worth living in.

Pittsburgh and St. Louis are the exceptions.

OMG!!!! You actually think Pittsburgh and St Louis are great places to live... SMH

SoCalCpl2 · 09-25-2015, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

It really isn't hard to overlay other studies onto this city.

1) Roughly one-third of Americans simply stop reading books when they leave (note, leave -- not necessarily graduate) high school or college.

2) Las Vegas is a below-average city when it comes to education.

3) Therefore Las Vegas attracts more of the sort of people who simply do not read.

4) This creates a feedback loop of ignorance.

I had a co-worker who once commented that she wouldn't watch a foreign film because she refuses to read subtitles. That's a typical Las Vegas attitude.

And you can see this in action. Go to one of the handful of used bookstores in town. Doesn't matter which. It's a ghost town, right? Now go to a vibrant, interesting city and visit a used bookstore. Jam packed with people. That's the difference between Las Vegas and decent cities. We're not so much blue-collar as we are anti-education and anti-intellectualism.

That's why I wouldn't open a business in this town that wasn't centered on tobacco, topless women, cheap alcohol and fried food.

I take offense with that statement.... Many people do not like to watch films with subtitles.. Doesn't mean they are any less educated than others....

SoCalCpl2 · 09-25-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Bottom quintile --

obesity: 2009 Fattest Cities: #4 Las Vegas, NV | Men's Fitness

education: Top 10 Worst Cities for Education in America | Parenting

drugs: Modern addiction: Our heroin epidemic - Las Vegas Sun News

suicide: The 15 Most Suicidal Cities In America - Business Insider

At the bottom end of the "best places to live"

Las Vegas ranks in bottom half of best places to live - Las Vegas Sun News

Here's the world's shortest book:

And this is what I say to every one of those.. No matter what institution (magazine, newspaper, journal, etc) these came out of they are skewed to the people behind them's views...

Take the 1st one - it was from 2009.. NOW in that year you could take 10 different surveys, opinion polls, audits, etc and they would ALL say something different....

And the others are really just a bunch of bull...

ScoopLV · 09-26-2015, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lvoc

My actual view is and remains Las Vegas is an ordinary and average city of the Southwest with an exceptional climate and a wonderful entertainment sphere plus a location that provides very nice access to the American west.

Poppycock. Every time (and I mean EVERY, SINGLE, SOLITARY TIME) one of these studies comes out, you are always Johnny-On-The-Spot to be an apologist for this city. It's almost as if you have a horse named Rocinante.

It's easy to be down on Las Vegas. 1) Live here. 2) Have working senses. 3) See how rotten this place is. 4) Read the news for an endless supply of articles and studies that validate the hypothesis that Las Vegas sucks eggs.

It's almost as if your living depends on a steady stream of people convinced that this is the land of milk and honey. Or "Big Rock Candy Mountain," if you're into folk music.

The reality is that the average resident is an addict, a slimeball, and dumber than a box of hammers. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people living here. You can put big privacy walls up, a guard at the barbican, and try to shut them out. But that doesn't stop them from running into you when they drive drunk. Get several hundred thousand junkies -- pills, gambling, booze, smoking, etc. -- together so they can just wreck the societal network. That's Las Vegas.

Average. Pah! Las Vegas would have to improve by leaps and bounds to work its way up to "average." I wouldn't be so down on this city if Las Vegas was average.

The sad thing is, George would fit in great here -- during his coke-binge, alcoholic days at least. Read his daughter's book sometime. It's an eyeful.

lvoc · 09-26-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Poppycock. Every time (and I mean EVERY, SINGLE, SOLITARY TIME) one of these studies comes out, you are always Johnny-On-The-Spot to be an apologist for this city. It's almost as if you have a horse named Rocinante.

It's easy to be down on Las Vegas. 1) Live here. 2) Have working senses. 3) See how rotten this place is. 4) Read the news for an endless supply of articles and studies that validate the hypothesis that Las Vegas sucks eggs.

It's almost as if your living depends on a steady stream of people convinced that this is the land of milk and honey. Or "Big Rock Candy Mountain," if you're into folk music.

The reality is that the average resident is an addict, a slimeball, and dumber than a box of hammers. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people living here. You can put big privacy walls up, a guard at the barbican, and try to shut them out. But that doesn't stop them from running into you when they drive drunk. Get several hundred thousand junkies -- pills, gambling, booze, smoking, etc. -- together so they can just wreck the societal network. That's Las Vegas.

Average. Pah! Las Vegas would have to improve by leaps and bounds to work its way up to "average." I wouldn't be so down on this city if Las Vegas was average.

The sad thing is, George would fit in great here -- during his coke-binge, alcoholic days at least. Read his daughter's book sometime. It's an eyeful.

Read minds now among your other fantastic skills?

Yes I often do read critiques of Las Vegas. I then read the source literature and see what they really say. I will then comment if warranted. You should try it.

As I have pointed out the percentage of high school graduates in Las Vegas is higher than such places as Chicago and Los Angeles. If you need to feel better about your neighbors there are zip codes where the level is similar to most anywhere. And there are census tracts that get even more educated than that if that is your desire. It is really simple - don't live among the slime balls.

You keep trying to sound rational in your completely irrational views on Las Vegas. It ain't gonna work.

FrostyToasty · 09-26-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoopLV

The reality is that the average resident is an addict, a slimeball, and dumber than a box of hammers. And there are hundreds of thousands of such people living here. You can put big privacy walls up, a guard at the barbican, and try to shut them out. But that doesn't stop them from running into you when they drive drunk. Get several hundred thousand junkies -- pills, gambling, booze, smoking, etc. -- together so they can just wreck the societal network. That's Las Vegas.

The way you talk about and look down on everyone, you'd think that you'd be an Ivy League graduate, have a 150+ IQ, been CEO of a major company, and make 7 figures a year or more. But you're not any of those things. You really need to tone down your ego because it doesn't come anywhere close to matching your accomplishments.