Clark County School Teacher Salary Question (magnet school, income, title)

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Glad to know that teachers will receive a pension after only 5 years vested. You just can't look at the low pay. The whole pay package needs to be considered including the pension vesting at 5 years and not paying Social Security taxes.

start teaching right after college... let's say 22? work for 30 years and then retire at 52.... with a pension that pays 75% of what you were making at retirement. I would give up higher wages in exchange for that retirement benefit.

So why don't you become a teacher ?

The real question is; Why do so many people become teachers then cry about the pay?
It's not like existing teachers haven't been moaning about that forever...

I know, they do it because they want to make a difference... ...so be happy with that then!

There are plenty of folk whom accept lower pay for the love of their chosen field...you don't hear them complaining.

I believe most teachers start their careers young and money is less of an issue. IMHO teaching is a noble profession, but the burnout factor over the years may sour some. Dealing with a faceless bureaucracy like CCSD coupled with some distributive students in the classroom can contribute the feeling that the money isn't worth it. I don't think anyone entering the teaching profession believes they are going to get rich.

FYI, your benefit will be reduced if you want your spouse to receive survivor benefits.

And since the attrition rate in teaching is 50% within 5 years, a significant amount of teachers contribute to PERS, but never collect a dime.

Well, we all had a meeting and the top priority was to decide what was the fasted way to **** off Cyborg800?

Ha ha ha ha. You quack me up.

I am a "helper". I get a great deal of satisfaction from helping others and have wanted to be a teacher since I was a child. When I started college, I was accepted into a highly competitive, allied medical program the first time I applied. I make this distinction because virtually everyone who applied for the program took, at least, two tries to get in. Even though I was accepted, I decided that I really wanted to pursue being a teacher and forewent the admission into the other program.

It used to be that teaching was a very stable job. Now teachers are used as political pawns and incendiary soundbites. The stability is eroding quickly and is now much less enticing. I'm not competitive. I'm willing to be a hard worker, but the minute competition is factored in, I'm done. If some of the power players get their way, that's exactly into what teaching is going to devolve. I say devolve because it has already played on the east coast and the south, where only the most unscrupulous have received bonuses. I've witnessed cheating here already. I know exactly what will happen...the most unscrupulous people in our profession will cheat and get accolades and bonuses. I will not cheat and will be called on the carpet over test scores. It's already started and has been put in motion.

I've never worked harder in my life. And that is after working full-time, going to school - maintaining honor roll status, raising three children - all in sports, and dealing with a wealthy, contentious ex-husband who, for kicks, regularly caused upheaval in my life.

I'm taking some much needed time off right now. I'm using this time to evaluate what I will do when I return to work. I'm not sure if K-12 education is a good fit for me anymore. I'm heartbroken, but unless I can find a way to make it work, I won't go back.

I am an expert in my field. I know how to teach mathematics, specifically, to at-risk children. I had a proven track record of success. But here's the kicker: I am not allowed to use my expertise in the classroom. I must follow faulty a faulty course and sequence and use poorly chosen curriculum. When it doesn't work, guess who gets blamed? BTW, the poor curriculum that was chosen for me cost the district 18 million dollars. If you don't think someone didn't get a kickback for that, then you're either pretty naive or intentionally obtuse. (Every single math teacher that was forced to use it, hated it.)

So, no, I'm not helping anyone. I was working myself into an early grave and not helping anyone anymore. I used to be able to make a difference, but now, that's not the case.

I think all you people that think teachers are overpaid should get what you want. Pay them less, cut their benefits.

Well with a masters by year 5 youre making 47k. Not that bad of a gig. But dont go into teaching for the wrong reasons. Its a lot of extra hours. I was in my classroom on Black Friday for a couple hours...But I love what I do.

Anyone go through CCSD ARL program care to share their experience ?

I haven't been through the ARL program, but have worked with some that have.

They began the ARL program back about 10+ years ago when we were desperately short of teachers. At the time, it was touted as the panacea for bringing up test scores, by bringing in experts from industry. You have to already have a bachelor's degree to qualify and, I believe, there are only certain subjects they will qualify you to teach... like SPED, math, and science; the high need areas.

You must work on a master's of education while working as a classroom teacher.

I can tell you that the first group of people that went through the program all washed out of the classroom. My own experience is that they tend to not really take it as seriously as people who chose education to begin with. It's more like, "I'll do this for a instead of _______ since it's not working out." Not always, I'm sure, but, by and large, it's what I've seen.

I had a friend that was one of the teachers of ARL students and, quite honestly, she didn't see them as people that would be shining stars in the classroom. She, herself, was a well deserved award winning teacher.

At least for CCSD, plenty of times teachers have to come out of pocket for basic necessities for students in the classroom.(copy paper, dry erase markers, hand sanitizer, printer ink)

For the past 4 years(before this school year) we never had a teacher that didn't request classroom supplies or supplies to help a low income child from the parents.

This year is different because we are at a magnet school. Hardly any school supplies need. Just about everything is supplied, even brand new jackets and name brand shoes.

So the real question is; Why isn't all if CCSD run like magnet schools?




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