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SF is denser than Chicago but not as fast paced. You are making this way too easy. You can't measure the pace of a city.
San Francisco is more densely populated than Chicago as a whole, but I believe the north side of Chicago is on average more densely populated than S.F.
My problem is not that I think what he's saying is inaccurate. But he seems all too willing to not only accept that truth; but he also seems to be fine with the new status quo. That's what is highly disturbing to me.
Couple things:
I am talking about the reality of a capitalistic society and the rules that come with it. Being an African American myself, working to build affordable housing through a non-profit I helped to start, I know all about the positive and negative side effects of public and private investment. I always hear people complain about crime and a lack of investment in their communities, however, they fail to realize what that investment will bring. People don't understand economics and the free market so they have a false outlook on what is possible in their communities in the absence of policy to mandate affordable housing.
Washington DC has the most robust affordable housing policy in the nation from our TOPA policy to our 30% housing requirement on all government owned property to our inclusionary zoning requirement citywide. We can build enough housing for every race to live in DC at all price points. That requires density which is why I'm always pushing high density construction in the city. The more housing, the more affordable housing that is actually new and livable.
The thing people need to realize is, DC's black population in raw numbers has actually increased. The percentage has dropped because DC is adding so many new people and diversifying which is great. We are headed for 1 million people and a density of over 16,000 people per square mile in the next 20 years. There is plenty of room for everybody that lives here and new people too. You just have to build more housing and denser which we are doing. DC can fit more than 1 million people really. The more highrise's dot the city, the more people.
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How do you feel about the changes taking place in the city? Do you still live here? What do you think about all the new restaurants, high-rises compared to what D.C. was like while you grew up? Do you still live here?
I always wonder how people who hated the old D.C. feel about the new D.C. and what they think it will be like when the city hits a population density over 16,000 people per square mile in 20 years.
I'm in LA now.
I used to frequent friendship hts/Chevy chase, Chinatown,
Foggy bottom/Farragut Sq, Adams Morgan, capital hill
I wrked in the ins building and tech world so I've seen the changes on mass ave. I walked to Union Station often from there.
It used to be pretty desolate, if not scary.
The greyhound bus station was in a dreary location in the 90s.
Capital Hill has had some changes but it still feels the same to me really.
Obviously the area around nats stadium has changed a ton, but I'm not a fan of the sw area. I didn't go there often when I lived there and I try to avoid when I visit.
I would say my favorite areas of DC are Adams Morgan and dupont . It just seems more lively than the rest.
How do you feel about the changes taking place in the city? Do you still live here? What do you think about all the new restaurants, high-rises compared to what D.C. was like while you grew up? Do you still live here?
I always wonder how people who hated the old D.C. feel about the new D.C. and what they think it will be like when the city hits a population density over 16,000 people per square mile in 20 years.
I'm in LA now.
I used to frequent friendship hts/Chevy chase, Chinatown,
Foggy bottom/Farragut Sq, Adams Morgan, capital hill
I wrked in the ins building and tech world so I've seen the changes on mass ave. I walked to Union Station often from there.
It used to be pretty desolate, if not scary. A lot of surface parking lots.
The greyhound bus station was in a sketchy location in the 90s.
Mt vernon was considered to be a high crime area before the convention center, so I didn't wander too much.
Capital Hill has had some changes but it still feels the same to me really.
Obviously the area around nats stadium has changed a ton, but I'm not a fan of the sw area. I didn't go there often when I lived there and I try to avoid when I visit.
I would say my favorite areas of DC are Adams Morgan and dupont . It just seems more lively than the rest. But more or less, they feel the same. Same with Georgetown.
I have mixed opnions on Chinatown now. It's more vibrant then it ever was, but there's nothing unique about it.
It's chain city,
SF is denser than Chicago but not as fast paced. You are making this way too easy. You can't measure the pace of a city.
Yes, San Fran's 42 sq miles are denser than Chicago's 227 sq miles, but that is irrelevant. Density needs to be compared at equal area. at 42 sq miles, Chicago is denser than San Fran at 42 sq miles. They are close though.
I'm in LA now.
I used to frequent friendship hts/Chevy chase, Chinatown,
Foggy bottom/Farragut Sq, Adams Morgan, capital hill
I wrked in the ins building and tech world so I've seen the changes on mass ave. I walked to Union Station often from there.
It used to be pretty desolate, if not scary. A lot of surface parking lots.
The greyhound bus station was in a sketchy location in the 90s.
Mt vernon was considered to be a high crime area before the convention center, so I didn't wander too much.
Capital Hill has had some changes but it still feels the same to me really.
Obviously the area around nats stadium has changed a ton, but I'm not a fan of the sw area. I didn't go there often when I lived there and I try to avoid when I visit.
I would say my favorite areas of DC are Adams Morgan and dupont . It just seems more lively than the rest. But more or less, they feel the same. Same with Georgetown.
I have mixed opnions on Chinatown now. It's more vibrant then it ever was, but there's nothing unique about it.
It's chain city,
425 I Street and TechWorld?? Really small world....
Apparently nothing of substance has been written (even within the first 20 posts)
A few things. DC and Chicago have the same amount of hotel rooms and taxis even though DC is one fourth the size of Chicago. That speaks volumes about the punch DC packs for it's small size.
I'm in LA now.
I used to frequent friendship hts/Chevy chase, Chinatown,
Foggy bottom/Farragut Sq, Adams Morgan, capital hill
I wrked in the ins building and tech world so I've seen the changes on mass ave. I walked to Union Station often from there.
It used to be pretty desolate, if not scary. A lot of surface parking lots.
The greyhound bus station was in a sketchy location in the 90s.
Mt vernon was considered to be a high crime area before the convention center, so I didn't wander too much.
Capital Hill has had some changes but it still feels the same to me really.
Obviously the area around nats stadium has changed a ton, but I'm not a fan of the sw area. I didn't go there often when I lived there and I try to avoid when I visit.
I would say my favorite areas of DC are Adams Morgan and dupont . It just seems more lively than the rest. But more or less, they feel the same. Same with Georgetown.
I have mixed opnions on Chinatown now. It's more vibrant then it ever was, but there's nothing unique about it.
It's chain city,
Oh ok. When was the last time you visited? The area around Nats stadium will have over 6,000 housing units under construction by Q4 of this year. Just insane construction is going on in that area. The Wharf, SW Eco District, and Waterfront Station has over 3,000 units under construction right now. NOMA will have over 5,000 under construction by Q4 2017. Union Market will have thousands of units breaking ground too. It's just insane seeing the changes take place in real time. The changes are astronomical when it comes to retail also. There are millions of sq. feet of retail under construction. Just unprecedented growth all over the city. Hope you get to visit again soon.
You confuse new 10 story buildings as interesting.
I was there two years ago.
It feels bland, honestly. It might as well be ballston, and I don't say that in a good way.
South Park in LA or south loop in Chicago are adding new construction, but still retain older, renovated buildings.
That's why it's more interesting to me see Chicago and LA infill their commercial corridors with housing.
Koreatown and Hollywood are going to be special. I
The amenities are already in place.
. Dcs new buildings won't have interesting retail/restaurants because the rent is too high.
If that's your thing, that's your thing. I don't see a lot of people saying "let's go hang on m St sw"
A few things. DC and Chicago have the same amount of hotel rooms and taxis even though DC is one fourth the size of Chicago. That speaks volumes about the punch DC packs for it's small size.
You don't see anywhere near the amount of taxis in DC like you do in Chicago
Anyone will notice that.
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