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:::That is a very unusual claim to make. &mdash; <b>[[User:HandThatFeeds|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">The Hand That Feeds You</span>]]:<sup>[[User talk:HandThatFeeds|Bite]]</sup></b> 13:06, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
:"The original tweet is not saying that people generally are enjoying seeing immunocompromised people die. What she is saying is that they are enjoying their normal life but as a consequence of this is causing immunocompromised people to die and selecting them out in a eugenics way" I do not get your premise. People with [[immunodeficiency]] likely have much shorter lifespans, but they are not legally prevented from procreating or typically subjected to [[compulsory sterilization]]. So, some of the typical methods of eugenics do not seem to apply. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 07:04, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
:This says it all: {{tq|I am therefore up against mainstream consensus that will determine this is not mainstream and will be seen as fringe}}. That's entirely correct. Any time someone posts a mile-long screed about [[WP:THETRUTH|"the truth"]], they should be ignored, especially if they explicitly declare they are fighting against the preponderance of mainstream source material. If they're doing this at multiple talk pages or otherwise being disruptive, they should be indefinitely blocked as obviously [[WP:NOTHERE]] and per [[WP:NOT#FORUM]] [[WP:NOT#SOAPBOX]]. If aspaa (who seems to have no idea what "[[gaslighting]]" actually means) has some kind of defensible point to make, they can {{em|concisely}} post a change request with regard to a specific piece of content in the article, and with actually reliable sources to back it up. And even then it's going to be subject to intense scrutiny at an article like this. Skimming the above text wall, aspaa's central point can be responded to with this: COVID-19 having more impact on people with certain pre-existing medical conditions, and policymakers and medical systems not being able to do anything about that, and a lot of individuals not seeming to care about this more than they care about other life-or-death problems in the world, is not eugenics (has nothing to do with allegedly improving the human gene pool). The fact that [[Jacob Scheier|some random poet and self-described activist]] at the unreliable [[WP:UGC]] site Rabble.ca doesn't know (or pretends he doesn't know) what ''eugenics'' actually means is of no concern to WP or its article content (or its readers). "The multiple people in the minority mentioning it as eugenics are a voice that means claiming it is a fringe practise is not an uncontentious thing, it is now hugely contentious" is patent nonsense. The very fact that it's a handful of non-notable bloggers at unreliable sites simply misappying the term ''eugenics'' as [[arguementargument to emotion]] to advance a socio-political point about a COVID-vulnerable sub-population makes it fringe, and also makes it simply off-topic, because it is not about actual eugenics. Aspaa is doing the direct equivalent of arguing that because a bunch of far-right bloggers like to call environmentalists "eco-Nazis" and misuse the term ''Nazi'', that WP must rewrite its article on Nazism to redefine the term to include environmentalists. Wikipedia is built on the preponderance of the material in reliable sources on a topic, not on the venting of random blowhards misusing words (intentionally or out of ignorance). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 11:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 
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