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June 21

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 21, 2024.

Ofcommunist

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No explanation why this redirect should exist. The phrase "Ofcommunist" does not appear in the Ofcom article. Suspect this is a PoV redirect. — Czello (music) 19:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it's an insult slung at Ofcom by Dan Wootton after he was found guilty of breaking Ofcom's broadcasting rules and lost his job at GB News. BBC article I found mentioning it.
I'd say delete-- it's clearly not reached common use, Google is convinced that it's either a typo of "communist" or simply an attempt to type "of communist", and it's also a very clear portmanteau of "Ofcom" and "communist", made with the intent of perjoratively conflating the two concepts. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Although for me it's a pejoratively term at Ofcom by Dan Wootton but however it was a one-off use, I've acted in good faith but I will accept the final decision of this discussion. Pikachu3408 (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Motorscooterxxx

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Implausible title because of the three x's. Most of the edit history consists of a brief edit war, with the content being virtually identical to a previous version of the article. Note that the redirect itself was moved from the original title "Motorscooter". It seems that the user Scooteristi wanted for the main article to be at that title, and made a rather disruptive copy-paste onto the redirect. The situation here is similar to the "Pkiro Wrokestling" redirect (RfD). Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 17:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i can understand the reasoning. x is a really cool letter, so adding more x's to things makes them cooler. still, delete as missing a space (and also as an implausible spelling, i guess) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, what, is this an imcomplete WP:ROUNDROBIN? Move Motorscooter to Motorscooterxxx, move Scooter (motorcycle) to Motorscooter, then move Motorscooterxxx to Scooter (motorcycle), all without leaving redirects behind? Because if that was the goal, that's not what user:Scooteristi did-- they left a redirect behind when moving Motorscooter, then repaired the Motorscooter redirect to point at Scooter (motorcycle), meanwhile, not moving Scooter (motorcycle) anywhere. Also interesting is that before they moved Motorscooter to Motorscooterxxx, they blanked the page-- another editor (user:Tedder, who two years prior had BLAR'd the page; page before that point had been a fork? of Scooter (motorcycle) created by... Scooteristi, interestingly enough) then went back and restored the redirect that was there (perhaps not noticing that the page was now Motorscooterxxx).
In any case, whatever nonsensical reasoning behind this, there's nothing of value in the 2009-era fork that's in the edit history. Delete. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

D-ring

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I'm not convinced that either of these targets (or even Glossary of underwater diving terminology: D–G) are the primary topic, nor that they should target different articles. The whatlinkshere for D-ring are mostly unrelated to diving and just expect an article about the generic bit of hardware - there is an unsourced stub in the history of that page about that, but I'm not sure what scope there is for expansion? Thryduulf (talk)

  • Note PamD has retargetted D-ring (but not D ring) to Glossary of underwater diving terminology: D–G. Thryduulf (talk) 14:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, sorry, I did that on noticing that it was clearly wrongly-targetted, but hadn't noticed the other one also wrong (and it's also hard to spot them in the D-G list as they are filed letter-by-letter where I expected word-by-word!) ... then looked further into D-rings and despaired of a sensible solution. The Wiktionary definition is specific to diving, but it appears from googling that "D-ring" is a very widely-used term for, well, literally a D-shaped ring, used in hanging pictures, anchoring webbing, and many other fields. As we don't have a List of useful miscellaneous bits of hardware, it's hard to see where it should go. I've now retargetted D ring so at least it's consistent and makes some sort of sense ... even if possibly wrong.
    Perhaps we need to edit Wiktionary to remove diving's hijacking of a generic term, then we could have a dab page for diving and Saturn, with a Wiktionary link. PamD 16:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, change to a disambiguation page. — Lentower (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: None of these terms are clearly the most prevalent, so none should be singled out at the top of the new disambig page. — Lentower (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Some of these pages, e.g. D ring binder should be on the new page. (I haven't read the guidelines here, so am not feel qualified make the decision).
 
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Mexican Avocado Dispute

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there isn't anything in the article about a dispute and the section to which this links no longer exists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spirituality & Health Magazine

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No relation to target, not mentioned in target article. Spirituality & Health is a magazine published by Unity Church. Softlavender (talk) 03:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tristan Tate

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Delete as misleading. This redirect was created a minute after the second deletion discussion closed, first pointing to the whole article and then to a subsection concerning the Romanian case(s), on what seems to me to be the very good reason that they are different people. During the GA drive this change was reverted. As it stands, the references to Tristan are sprinkled throughout the article, so it's hard to pick a single place to point the redirect at; but they are different people, and the current outcome suggests that to the unwary they aren't. Given the AfD outcome, I would suggest that deletion of the redirect and reliance on how search engines actually work is the best resolution of this so that those looking will get a succinct and accurate answer; failing that, the AfD could be reconsidered, or Andrew Tate's article could be so structured as to give a redirect some place to point to. The current arrangement, though, treats him like Zaphod Beeblebrox's second head. Mangoe (talk) 00:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment New RfD's go below the header, not above it. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-target to Andrew Tate#In Romania: 2022–present per WP:BLP1E, where is he referenced under "Tate brothers" (that can be amended to "Tate and his brother Tristan" for first usage). 1E was the strong argument for deletion of the article second time around, despite not being mentioned in the closing summary, so redirecting to any other part of the article doesn't make sense based on his notability. Additionally, a redirect that is used 20 times a day does appear useful, but being pointed at Andrew Tate directly can be confusing for readers, even if he is mentioned from the lead onwards. I'm not sure why TheMainLogan changed the redirect back in March. I'm otherwise convinced that this redirect existed long before March and that the page history is missing after the 2nd AfD, but could be wrong. Maybe an admin could clarify. CNC (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I won't even lie, I pointed the redirect at Andrew directly because they're basically the same guy. —theMainLogan (t•c) 15:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TheMainLogan yeah but in my opinion, they are not. Tristan Tate is almost equally as well known as his brother, and is a different human being with his own life and internet personality. Sure, they live together, own the same cars, but they are still entirely different. Mr Vili talk 00:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Tristan Tate is almost equally as well known as his brother, and is a different human being with his own life and internet personality. Sure, they live together, own the same cars, but they are still entirely different." Then why shouldn't he have his own article? —theMainLogan (t•c) 03:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and Restore Tristan Tate Draft I believe the redirect should be deleted, and Tristan Tate is notable enough to have his own page, I suggest the original page be undeleted, and converted into a Draft where further editing can be done to the original page in order to move it into mainspace Mr Vili talk 08:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    While this isn't the place to debate notability (the talk page would be better) the source assessment in the 2nd AfD demonstrated only one article with WP:SIGCOV, hence notability was not proven beyond BLP1E. Since this AfD he is now accused in a second investigation in the UK, but per the closing summary of that AfD, WP:PERP is still an issue here. Even if another draft is worked on, the mainspace article still requires a decision on either deleting, keeping or redirecting. CNC (talk) 12:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine to the section per CommunityNotesContributor. This is without prejudice to the former article content being worked on in draft, but unless and until an article is accepted (and such an article would need to demonstrate notability unrelated to the single incident) readers are better served by the redirect pointing to the content in his brother's article. Thryduulf (talk) 10:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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