Wikipedia:Teahouse

My SVG has glitched because I don't know, I just used a mapchart map of 1830 to make my US flag map from 1822 to 1836, And I masked the flag, However, The SVG became invisible, the problem is so hard to fix that I just gave up. I asked some people to help me on Stack Overflow, They gave me some tips on how to fix it, It didn't work. So you guys are the only hope for me to fix it. (i have no idea if i should link my image here...) MJGTMKME123 (talk) 13:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...why is nobody responding. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MJGTMKME123, possibly because no one who understands how to help has seen it yet; we're all volunteers, here. Yes, you can link the image if you think it will help. Valereee (talk) 16:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. c:File:Flag_Map_of_the_United_States_(1822-1836).svg MJGTMKME123 (talk) 17:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MJGTMKME123 The experts on .svg images have their own Help Pages at WP:SVG help. You should post details there and I'm sure you will get good advice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 22:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aren’t mapChart maps usually unrecommended? 48JCL 19:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User is insulting me just because I used MapChart. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also, I couldn't find a map for my flag map. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 22:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not insulting you, it’s just that you can’t update a mapChart map and you should use a SVG instead. Also, in list of countries by human development index a couple of mapChart maps have been removed and in one of the edit descriptions it said that mapChart maps aren’t recommended 48JCL 22:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why would I just randomly waste time just to draw the map of the United States from 1822 to 1836 in SVG? MJGTMKME123 (talk) 22:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Idk, you want a high quality post right? 48JCL 22:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let’s not argue 48JCL 22:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can a YouTube video (e.g. this one) that is from an official and reliable channel, covering the production of a film, be used as a source? DinSolo (talk) 12:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @DinSolo: YouTube is just a platform, so the reliability or otherwise of the content depends on the channel and the original source. If we're talking eg. BBC News, and the clip is on BBC's own official channel, that is considered a reliable source, even on YouTube. If we're talking Russia Today, that's a deprecated source, and cannot be used no matter whose channel it's on. If we're talking BBC news, but the channel isn't BBC, then it could be reliable as long as the content hasn't been edited or doctored in any way, but it would be better to find that same content on BBC's own channel and cite that. (I say this in a generic sense, without commenting on whether Think Music India is a reliable source.) HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Think Music is a musiclabel, so they may be regarded as a reliable sources only for uncontroversial factual information about themselves and their issues: see WP:ABOUTSELF. It makes no difference what medium or platform their publications are on. ColinFine (talk) 20:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also have a look at Wikipedia:YOUTUBE; copyright might be a problem. Lectonar (talk) 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, understood. Thanks for the reply guys --DinSolo (talk) 12:56, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Hope you all are doing great. Recently I made three drafts Draft:Gumn, Draft:Wonderland (Pakistani TV series) and Draft:Hook (2022 TV series) but they were declined by reviewer User:Saqib who has been biased in reviewing my drafts and in case of Draft:Gumn despite the fact it does have multiple reliable sources, it was indicated that it does not meet WP:GNG. Help me get my articles published as I feel they all are notable to be published.  182.182.97.3 (talk) 22:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORUMSHOP. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 22:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are WP:LOUTSOCKing and engaging in UPE. Just stop. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not, you can have investigation on my IP. You guys are just bullying new editors like me. 182.182.97.3 (talk) 06:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop being so accusing. They are right. 48JCL 00:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The template Template:Alphabet occupies a large amount of space down the right hand side of the pages where it is used. Examples are at:

• Hebrew alphabet, where it is currently invoked as {{alphabet}}
• Ugaritic alphabet, where it is currently invoked as {{alphabet|state=collapsed}}

Despite the different invocations, they seem to display the same; that is, the "state=collapsed" in the second example seems to have no effect.

The template itself starts:

which suggests that collapsibility is potentially available. But the template documentation is almost non-existent and doesn't seem to mention collapsibility.

What is the mechanism to make it collapsible, please? Where, if at all, is it documented? If someone could tell me how to invoke it, I would then be happy to add a documentation note if required.

Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell from looking at Module:Sidebar, the "collapsible" parameter isn't actually an option, but I could be wrong. Rather, there's another template {{Sidebar with collapsible lists}} that is also implemented by that module, and it contains collapsible lists inside the sidebar. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your useful replies here and at Template talk:Alphabet. The latter is probably the better place for follow-up. I think I am making progress. Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I was curious if there is somewhere here, or on another website where you can make private Wikipedia pages. I feel reluctant to use the sandbox since other people may be able to edit or delete it. Wastelandhero18 (talk) 16:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that isn't possible. However, your sandbox can be semi-protected so that anonymous IP addresses cannot edit it. I have protected user-space pages by request; let me know.

If you want a truly private draft, then compose it in a document on your personal computer. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wastelandhero18, welcome to the Teahouse. There are no private pages in Wikipedia. Other users can see User:Wastelandhero18/sandbox but are unlikely to edit it unless you place article categories or illegal content like copyright violations. The content should still be Wikipedia-related, e.g. tests and article drafts. If you want full privacy while still having access to Wikipedia features like our templates then you have to save your work elsewhere and only use "Show preview" here. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you. Wastelandhero18 (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably you can start a public wiki only you can edit. [1] may have something interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say the issue with a "private draft" is that unless you intend it to be a draft forever, it's eventually going to be editable. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is something I've also been wishing for. I wonder if it has come up in discussion by the senior editors before. If not, maybe, @Wastelandhero18, we could make this a proposal to post at the Village Pump, Proposals area, a place I just discovered recently. Augnablik (talk) 06:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not trying to rain on your parade, but I think there's pretty much zero chance of something like that ever happening, and proposing such a thing at the Village Pump will almost cerainly quickly lead to at least one if not many more replies citing WP:NOTWEBHOST. For reference, even pages in the user namespace aren't "owned" by anyone other than the Wikimedia Foundation explained in WP:UPOWN. The best advice anyone can give you if you want to retain full-editorial control over or otherwise keep your work private is to never post it on any Wikipedia page as explained in WP:REALWORLD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Raising an umbrella too. Augnablik (talk) 08:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I ask in regards to TM103: Hustlerz Ambition, would it be possible to have the page located at TM103 Hustlerz Ambition and use {{display title}} to have the level 1 header on the page say TM:103 Hustlerz Ambition? I understand [[TM:]] is a shortcut to the template namespace.

I feel like having the page at TM103: is facutally incorrect, it seems wrong to change the order of the punctuation just for the sake of getting the colon in there? If this were technically possible, I would start the WP:RM. Thanks, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MicrobiologyMarcus: It can only be used to make the changes described at Template:DISPLAYTITLE § Description; adding a colon in the middle of the title is unfortunately not one of those things. The reasoning behind this is that the title needs to be able to be copy-pasted into links (and other things), and adding most characters in most places won't allow for that. Tollens (talk) 18:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tollens: Ahh, of course. I image I will still commence a WP:RM as, in my opinion, the colon in the wrong location is a factually incorrect name as opposed to the omission of a colon, but others may agree. Good to know that if the page where to move, {{display title}} wouldn't be a fix. Many thanks, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MicrobiologyMarcus: Welcome to the Teahouse. While not a 100% fix, perhaps using {{correct title}} might clear up some misconceptions of what the title is supposed to be rendered as? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the article already uses that note. Tollens (talk) 22:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was editing this page Blue Train (South Africa) and came across different data in two different reliable citations. CNN (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/luxury-train-travel/index.html) states 27 hours travel duration and Business Insider Africa states 31 hours travel duration (https://africa.businessinsider.com/news/the-best-luxury-train-rides-in-2024/gc7lrsp)

CNN is an older citation from 2016 and Business Insider Africa is a newer citation from 2024. Would it be better if I change the duration mentioned on the page from 27 to 31 hours since the newer citation should be updated? My assumption and logic here is that the latest citation will be more accurate.

ANLgrad (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I opened a discussion at Talk:Blue Train (South Africa), though only with more info--not a solution yet. JackTheSecond (talk) 23:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know how long a dyk will take? 48JCL 23:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typically, less than a month from submitted to approved, and then an additional 10-14 days to be used. There are about a half-dozen dating to early April or March that are not yet approved, mostly due to lack of agreement on the text of the DYK. David notMD (talk) 01:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote Draft:Designated Reserves (Czech Republic) which was rejected by User talk:TheTechie for not meeting WP:NOTGUIDE. In one part of the article, I painstaikingly summarized/translated the prescribed requirements of the training courses. The idea being of having it prepared in way that will allow direct and meaningful comparison with similar future articles about similar systems in other countries (e.g. Lithuania, Estonia, etc.).

Can someone please let me know to what extent the content needs to be dumbed down in order to pass the WP:NOTGUIDE? Cimmerian praetor (talk) 04:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest reducing the "Training under auspices of Ministry of Interior" section to a brief overview of the training process. You should still mention the 3 levels including a brief description of each. If the article feels like a guide, then it probably fails WP:NOTGUIDE. EternalNub (talk) 05:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I used to be able to edit Wiki pages, but seem to have lost that ability. What went wrong? M.N. Thaler (talk) 10:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@M.N. Thaler This account is new, so you can't currently edit articles with some level WP:PROTECTion, but those are relatively few, marked with a padlock in the upper right corner. For example, you should be able to edit Bellis perennis. Most protected articles have Semi-protection. Hope this helps some. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering. This account isn't new – I have been editing for a few years from this account, but for some reason that is not possible anymore. M.N. Thaler (talk) 05:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@M.N. Thaler My mistake, see: [2]. My point remains that since you atm only have 3 edits on en-WP, the en-WP protections, semi and others, will get in your way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article seems to be a direct translation of es:Martinogale without correct attribution of such. What tags should be placed on the article? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... it seems that the same author created both at the same time, so this isn't an issue for this article. However, I'd still like to know what kind of tagging would have been useful. -

UtherSRG (talk) 11:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RIA has advice about fixing problems of attribution when copying within Wikipedia. Hope that helps! Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I was looking for. Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 12:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way I can report a user for disruptive behavior and harrassment? Aanuarif (talk) 11:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry you faced harassment. I recommend you take a look at the policy section WP:DEALWITHINCIVIL, which is a step by step guide to dealing with incivility. If the steps fail to resolve the problem, you can file a report at WP:ANI, with evidence like Diffs. Ca ^{talk to me!} 13:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should also read WP:BOOMERANG. Theroadislong (talk) 13:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have found that the task of updating Atlas (robot) with information about their new electronic successor is a task I can handle. I cannot, however, determine if I can add significant or even a little bit of information about the new robot's purpose and construction with a source straight from Boston Dynamics. I also am having trouble figuring what the author for this text would be and how I would cite it in the article. Any advice on what to do? I would like to improve the state of the article. ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 13:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for

Since the author is not mentioned in the website, it's ok to leave the field blank, like this: ^[1]

I also recommend finding an WP:independent source for information added to articles, since the company who made Atlas wouldn't be impartial to it. However, the blog you've found should fine for uncontroversial, little details. 👍

Ca ^{talk to me!} 13:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was figuring all the article needed was a baseline for the updated version, and all the commentary, reactions, and more in-depth stuff would come later. Just needed a start! Thank you, Ca. ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 14:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How can I make a request to recover the draft of a page that went through the articles for deletion process? I'd like to see what the original draft looked like so I can update it as new references are available since its deletion. Nnev66 (talk) 15:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nnev66 Depending on what criteria it was deleted under, you can request undeletion for a page. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 15:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, WP:UNDELETE is a bit confusing and but I've requested the page be restored as a Draft and will see what happens. Appreciate your response that this process may be OK for article that had originally gone through AfD. Nnev66 (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, in case anyone has my question, I was told if one wants to recover a Draft page they should contact the admin who closed the Articles for Deletion discussion and not use the undeletion mechanism. I'll update here once I have a final resolution to this issue. Nnev66 (talk) 21:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I need help with my userboxes on my page. I am trying to put the collapsible segments into a vertical table, but am having trouble with it. Thanks! MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MemeGod27 I'd recommend something like mine, where all of my userboxes are laid out in their own box with collapseboxes. This prevents them from sort of just sitting around all over the page. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 15:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tried doing something similar, but it still doesn't work. MemeGod ._. (talk) 16:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MemeGod27 I think you might've been trying to use userboxtop/bottom and collapsetop/bottom templates interchangeably, so hopefully I've fixed that now but please make sure to check it so it's correct. CommissarDoggo^Talk? 16:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yea,, you fixed it. Thanks so much! :D MemeGod ._. (talk) 16:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Good editing practices tells me that "Making multiple changes in a single edit, particularly when edits stretch across different sections, should be avoided.". What I have interpreted this to mean is that if I am making multiple small edits within the same paragraph, that I should make them as one edit, but if they stretch across multiple paragraphs, then I should make a separate edit for each paragraph that I am editing.

A lot of the changes I make in articles are small minor changes here and there like adding commas and adding the word "the", so that means following this interpretation ends up inflating my edit count. For example, I was editing the article for the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and 18 of the edits were just me "fixing grammar by adding the word 'the'". Is it necessarily a bad thing that there are a large number of those edits? Would that be excessively inflating my edit count and adding too much clutter to the version history or am I just overthinking this? Anonymous Libertarian (talk) 16:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Anonymous Libertarian, and welcome to the Teahouse. Nobody who is here to improve the encyclopaedia cares in the least about edit count; and nor is the length of the version history really of import.

I would say that several minor edits in the same section would be fine, but there wouldn't be a problem doing them individually.

The major risk in doing different edits in one go is that if somebody disagrees with one of them, they are unlikely to pick just that one, but will often just revert the whole eid.t ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve been wondering the very same thing, @Anonymous Libertarian. But of course there’s no real harm to anyone if we simply rack up points — it’s not quite like if we were using up critical natural resources by turning on the tap every time we made a minor edit. 😅

Still, I’ve had my share of moral twinges about this … Augnablik (talk) 16:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the vast majority of cases, it's simply not that big of a deal and you should do what feels most comfortable and reasonable until someone tells you otherwise. There are disadvantages to both discretizing every edit and making large heterogenous edits, both stemming from difficulty of review by other editors. Just be aware that both people might have trouble with large edits that touch a lot of different parts and do a lot of different things, and also with 40 edits that fill of the article history that they then potentially have to go through piecemeal. Personally, I would find it a bit absurd to make every typographical change its own edit, there's simply no reason to do that as a matter of course. Remsense诉 16:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When wikimedians gather in one place and how they are nominated for representing their country? Muhammad masnoon (talk) 16:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Muhammad masnoon. I think you are talking about the annual Wikimania conference. Anyone can attend and there is no nomination process. Attendees represent themselves, not their countries. If you need financial assistance, you need to apply to the Wikimedia Foundation. Cullen328 (talk) 18:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to submit an article about an urban garden in Belgrade, Serbia. The citations i am giving are either books or big online newspapers/magazines (I have now deleted two just in case: one to the tilda site and youtube reportage about the garden). I am wondering if the citations are marked as unreliable because they are in serbian? Tommyleena (talk) 16:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tommyleena There is guidance applicable to all sources at WP:RS. Sources don't need to be in English but we do prefer those that have editorial control and oversight, such as national-level newspapers. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the issue might be more to do with a lack of sourcing than with the reliability of the sources that are cited, Tommyleena. For example, what's the source for the statement that "Belgrade garden hosts a variety of plant species, with 29 trees of different species growing there"? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there!

So currently I am trying to create the articles for the 4 railway routes in Iraq, the IRR Southern, Western, Northern and Transversal. The Southern and Transversal articles already exist, for the Western Line I have prepared a sandbox but the biggest issue would be the Northern railway. The problem is, that the article for the IRR Northern kind of exists already as the Berlin-Baghdad Railway article. The thing is that the article does not really focus on the Iraqi section as well as the current state of operations and transformations in Iraq or generally anything that only matters to the Iraqi section, not just the entirety of the railway, which is fair. Would you say an article solely for the Iraqi section would be notable enough or would it be silly to create two articles for effectively the same railway?

With kind regards,

Johnny Does JohnnyDoobydoo (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JohnnyDoobydoo. There are two separate questions here. Whether the Iraqi section of the BBR is notable by Wikipedia's standards depends just on the number and quality of reliable independent sources about that section specifically (the sources do not have to be online, and do not have to be in English, though English sources are preferred if they exist).

If the sources are not there (remember, for that section specfically), then there cannot be a separate article.

If the sources exist, then a separate article is possible, but that does not necessarily mean it should exist. Is there enough worth saying about that section specifically that merits a separate article? This is an editorial decision (and editors may disagree about it!). The alternative is to create a section about it in Berlin-Baghdad Railway, and then you can create a redirect that points to that section. Discussing this on Talk:Berlin-Baghdad Railway might be a good way to start. ColinFine (talk) 08:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can I add only the Talk page (not its article) to my Watchlist for new topics? Thanks. rootsmusic (talk) 19:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can subscribe to sections in the talk pages in the top right of the section header Adriancph (talk) 22:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Adriancph, I just discovered a "subscribe" link in the tool pane under Actions. I mistakenly thought that I should click on the star symbol (Alt+shift+W). rootsmusic (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rootsmusic: Welcome to the Teahouse. You may find this page informative. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm needing some advice for my draft, which is a lake in Kansas and I was wondering what I need to fix. Thanks RoyalSilver (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RoyalSilver. I'd suggest looking for some sources independent of Shawnee County's own publicity, such as some news coverage or a travel guide. As it is now, you've got four references but they're all coming from the same place. Good luck with your article! -- D'n'B-t -- 19:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One thing I see becoming an issue is that you're currently writing backwards. This is problematic because it is original research and that it can sometimes be hard to verify to the standards of Wikipedia that something is true.

Also, note that not all Wikipedia articles need images. Your map really doesn't tell all that much about the lake itself as I cannot see it. If you really want an image, you could take it yourself and add it to Wikimedia Commons. ✶Quxyz✶ 02:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a book, used as a source on Wiki article. I need to read and verify it. However cannot find free version of it. I already tried Google, Archive.org, and Wikipedia Lib. What else can I do? Is there any community or page (in wikipedia) to ask for a book? Aredoros87 (talk) 20:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Aredoros87,

Have you tried a public library? You may also find some more ideas of what to find what you're looking for on this wikipedia help page.

Let us know if you have other questions! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 20:55, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For part of a book, WP:RX. 126.158.251.60 (talk) 21:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My general strategy when attempting to access a "book" is to start with WorldCat. The main reason for this is that if I'm having trouble getting what I want from archive.org, I'll already be aware of the existence or non-existence of the alternatives that WorldCat shows. Be aware that although Open Library accesses through the archive.org interface, there are occasional differences in what you may actually be able to access.

Note that when WorldCat points you at some other "free" sources, these are often actually restricted to those who have an association with the associated institution, Hathi Trust being a notable exception. Fabrickator (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aredoros87 You say that you saw the book already used as a source on a Wikipedia article. If you doubt that the book supports the article content and are trying to verify that it does, then one suggestion would be to raise the issue on the Talk Page of the article and WP:PING the editor who added that citation. For well-watched articles there are likely to be several people interested in the topic who have access to the passage in question and who might even be willing to email you a copy of the relevant pages. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks eveyone for help! Aredoros87 (talk) 18:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hello! I am new to editing on Wikipedia, does anyone have any tips for me? Pasta Crab (talk) 22:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pasta Crab: Welcome to the Teahouse. As a new user you should have a homepage that gives you some suggested edits. If for some reason you don't see it, you can check Preferences → User profile → Newcomer editor features → Display newcomer homepage. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pasta Crab: Don't be anxious to create a new article. That can easily lead to a lot of frustration as your efforts are highly likely to be repeatedly rejected for seemingly arbitrary reasons. Eavesdropping on the Teahouse and at WP:Help desk will give you some idea of the sorts of issues new users encounter.

If you are tempted to edit an article, make sure you understand about the requirements to cite WP:Reliable sources for any claims made. Be aware of the standard way to properly format citations. (That's a joke, there are various "standard ways" to format citations.) I imagine most new editors these days are using the visual editor, but if you want to see the "wikitext", that might give you some insight in what's going on underneath.

There are indeed some introductory areas, such as listed on Help:Contents and various other links listed in the left margin (at least in the non-mobile page layout). So just play around, as you explore, discover the issues people are encountering, you'll be less likely to trip and fall when you decide that the time has come for you to add or edit content. Fabrickator (talk) 23:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Main tip: when in doubt, ask. You have already made one of the key discoveries, that the Teahouse is a great place to come for help. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Olamuyiwa isaac daodu Daoduofvaughan (talk) 22:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Daoduofvaughan: Welcome to the Teahouse. We strongly discourage editors from creating articles on themselves as it is virtually impossible to write about oneself in a neutral manner. Perhaps you could contribute to the encyclopedia by helping edit other articles? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you notable in any way? WP:Notability might answer this question. Wrosh (talk) 22:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I so heartedly appreciated your response, can you help me do it? Daoduofvaughan (talk) 22:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Olamuyiwa Isaac Daodu was Declined because you submitted it with no content. Please do not submit again until you have content and references. Teahouse Hosts are her to advise, no to be researchers or co-authors. David notMD (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A stub is a article which is to short the length of which i am unsure about but what exactly is a Start and where can one find this information. thank you in advance for helping a new Wikipedian. Adriancph (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Adriancph: Welcome to the Teahouse. Does this table help? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilesh_Jalamkar i found this Article,But It Dont Have Reference to Personal Life,I am a New Editor here...Can I add Tag

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to Personal Life Section as New Editor ? Steelbird1967 (talk) 02:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there... yes you can tag it, but you might also wanna consider deleting completely unsourced sections like this in a Biography. I hope this helps. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Side note: there is a specific tag for BLPs in {{BLPUnsourced}}. ✶Quxyz✶ 02:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Found out about that Al-Mahdi Al-Barghathi had died last October, in rather circumspect circumstances, but that the Wikipedia page still talked about the man as alive. So I figured I'd do some digging and update the page. I've spent some hours researching, and found what seem to be the most accurate/reliable sources, but I'm not sure if I formatted the brief and long bios as best possible. If anyone would mind checking the article and editing it so it fits with Wikipedia style that'd be great MWvBins (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• It seems OK to me. If another editor agrees with me, you can just move forward and forget about it. Bduke (talk) 04:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Doesn't seem to have notable issues at all. Move on I guess. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 04:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing an article entitled Canoe. Down at the bottom is what seems to be a template called "Clear" applied to a small section of text under a heading of "Canoe launches." I thought what Clear was likely to be for was to suggest that the small section be removed, because it's so small, without real discussion, and (at least to me) not of much value to the article.

But when I clicked on "Clear," it seemed to indicate that it was to clear up parts of photos. Because there was no photo in that section, I'm wondering why it's there. I'd love to find out. Augnablik (talk) 09:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a template, which you can check out at {{Clear}}. Basically, its role is to ensure that white space is created to avoid images clashing with text, especially in this case the section header following, in various browser window widths. You should leave this alone unless you are clear [pun intended] about the consequences of removing it! Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Michael D. Turnbull, with an extra dollop of — let me be clear here — appreciation for your “pun intended.”

It’s because I did check out the template that I was confused because the Clear icon is just sitting in a text areas with no photos. My question was why it was there. Maybe it was unintentional on the part of whoever put it there. Augnablik (talk) 11:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the clear template there is doing nothing there; what probably happened is that the image it was intended for got removed at some point, and the removing editor forgot to take out the template as well. Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense @Ca — I hadn’t thought of that — thanks. I should be able to remove Clear worry-free. Augnablik (talk) 15:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A few months ago I created the page Warped Tour - 2012, however this wasn't the exact name I wanted to use. I would have preferred to call it "Warped Tour 2012" without the hyphen (as this fits the format of the other Warped Tour year pages), but when I originally tried to move it out of the draft state into an article, it wouldn't let me use that name as it said it was already taken. It also does not let me changed the name of the page now that it is an article, giving me the same reason.

Since from what I can see, a page dedicated to the 2012 version of the Warped Tour did not exist prior to me creating this one, I think what might be going on here is that "Warped Tour 2012" is currently set up as a redirect to the main Warped Tour page so it in a way already exists on Wikipedia and won't let me replace it. So this has me thinking that this redirect needs to be removed to allow for the new page to take it's name.

I'm not well versed in Wikipedia so I'm aware that I could be way off the mark with what's causing me to not be able to rename the 2012 page, it might be unrelated to this, but this is what I think may be the issue here. Any help would be much appreciated, thank you! Owen1141 (talk) 12:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article existed before and was deleted in 2014 per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Warped_Tour_2012. Only the redirect was left. Though an administrator can more your page over this redirect. Ruslik_Zero 13:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So moved. Now at Warped Tour 2012. Deor (talk) 14:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I am kind of new to Wikipedia. I came across Stanley Kamel#Filmography, and I tried a lot of things to fix the table, but it isnt getting fixed. Would someone kindly fix the table? —usernamekiran (talk) 13:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Usernamekiran. You don't appear to have edited Stanley Kamel, and it is not obvious to me what the problem is with the table (or even which table). Please clarify. ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Usernamekiran I fixed one minor problem which is what I assume you were worried about. However, I can't find the name of the character on IMDb and given how many things Kamel appeared in, it may be better to remove that row altogether as not being notable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False signature?? The query is 'signed' usernamekiran, but the entry and editing to the Kamel article appear to have been made by a different account. usernamekiran is clearly not "...kind of new to Wikipedia". David notMD (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The edits were made by usernamekiran using his alt-account (note x at the end), so I don't think anything untoward is going on. It seems he was being modest about his experience! Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have they removed soil from da Nang air base 66.171.21.41 (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP editor, welcome to the Teahouse. If Da Nang Air Base doesn't have the answer to your question, you could trying asking at one of the reference desks; WP:RD/H would probably be the best fit. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 16:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I am getting the following error when I attempt to export pages with the included templates. I am able to export them without the templates. Is there something I can do to troubleshoot? It had worked earlier in the week.

Request from 173.71.130.68 via cp1104 cp1104, Varnish XID 554392182
Upstream caches: cp1104 int
Error: 500, Internal Server Error at Fri, 10 May 2024 16:13:52 GMT

173.71.130.68 (talk) 16:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP user. (Exporting pages? That's not the sort of question I expect to find on the Teahouse!) I suggest you ask at WP:VPT. ColinFine (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing a Draft for the article Pere-Enric_de_Ferran_i_de_Rocabruna in the english Wikipedia. I'm trying to insert an infobox person using {{Infobox person/Wikidata | fetchwikidata=ALL}}, as it is sugested in the tutorials, but the box is not being automatically filled from Wikidata, eventhough a Wikidata element does exists with the same title as the article. In the draft edit page, under Tools menu, I'm not finding any link to Wikidata. Xfmol (talk) 16:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xfmol, Welcome to the Teahouse. I am curious. Which tutorial recommends using {{Infobox person/Wikidata}} rather than {{Infobox person}}? The link to Wikidata for an article is not by name but by article link. Draft articles aren't linked to Wikidata, so you will need to wait until the article is in mainspace. Also the template will only pick up data which has references, and very few of the items at for that person have sources.

It appears you are translating the article from another language rather than writing in your own words. You must indicate this. See Help:Translation#License requirements. StarryGrandma (talk) 17:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Template:Infobox person/Wikidata section Usage there are several examples using {{Infobox person/Wikidata}} Xfmol (talk) 18:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Xfmol. I was about to give you much the same response as StarryGrandma; but I want to note that infoboxes are not required in articles, so it should make no difference to the review process whether you have an infobox or not. I suggest you simply comment out the infobox for the present (put it between <!-- and --> )

However, what will make a difference to the review is that Draft:Pere-Enric de Ferran i de Rocabruna has only one source cited, and therefore does not establish that he meets the criteria for notability in English Wikipedia; and also it is written in flowery language, inappropriate for English Wikipedia.

Please note that different versions of Wikipedia have different rules and policies, so the existing of an article in another Wikipedia does not guarantee that the subject will meet the requirements for English Wikipedia. Please see WP:Translation. ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. It is a draft editing page and I am just starting to write the article; of course the article will be far more extended and will have >10 references. I'm almost a begginer editor, I've already contributed to the catalan, spanish and french Wikipedias, but this is the first time I'm contributing to the english Wikipedia. Xfmol (talk) 18:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

literary references using color purple 2601:8C:4680:F4F0:7058:B971:4F6F:FDA1 (talk) 17:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand you correctly, try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. But clearer. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. For general knowledge questions, please ask at the Reference Desk. ColinFine (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I uploaded a new image and I just noticed that it had a watermark at the bottom right, and I don't know what to do now. Could someone help me? RoyalSilver (talk) 18:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @RoyalSilver. Usually watermarked images are not released under Creative Commons and are copyrighted to the author, in this case Rich Minear. Where did you get the photograph from, how do you know it's released under CC BY 2.0 DEED?

In any case it's not totally clear what you are asking. Qcne (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Qcne, It was from Flickr, and when I clicked on their license rights, it redirected me to CC BY 2.0 DEED website RoyalSilver (talk) 18:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, found it. Looks like it was originally a copyrighted piece, then released under CC (see License history) which I presume is why the Watermark is still there. However, the Flickr image states it is CC BY-NC-ND 2.0 DEED, not CC BY 2.0 DEED as you have stated on the file page. That means you cannot crop it to remove the watermark.

I'd suggest finding a better photograph that complies with our policies. Qcne (talk) 19:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Teahouse,

I'm feeling quite stuck. I submitted an extensively researched Draft through Articles for Creation about the large Canadian-based and now global company, Klick. (After disclosing my COI in both my username and on my user page).

From the 58 total references in the article, I singled out seven significant, independent, reliable, and secondary sources from major media, business news, and leading industry publications:

1. Globe and MailAvailablel at web.archive.org
2. Yale School of Management
3. Toronto Business Daily
4. MM+M
5. Strategy
6. Campaign Canada
7. Campaign Asia

Meanwhile, I've been told the draft had too few references, too many references, references that were paywalled, and references that [prohibitively] quoted principals of the company in the context of their reporting.

Financial Post:

"[Klick] has grown into the world’s largest independent digital health agency. The award-wining company has been growing profitably for 15 years and is a Branham top 10 healthcare IT company as well as having been named by the World Economic Forum as a Global Growth Company to watch."

I'm doing everything requested, but objections seem to keep coming. Thank you very much for your help, Marisa. Marisa at Klick (talk) 19:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Marisa at Klick. I don't quite understand why you felt the need to create a new topic here instead of responding to my pretty comprehensive advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#18:06,_9_May_2024_review_of_submission_by_Marisa_at_Klick.

Was there something about my latest reply you didn't understand? Qcne (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(I also note I specifically said that Paywalled references weren't an issue, just that I couldn't access it myself) Qcne (talk) 21:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]