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June 15[edit]

June 15, 2024 (2024-06-15) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Politics and elections

2024 Kasai River disaster[edit]

Article: 2024 Kasai River disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A ship sank in the Kasai River in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, killing over 80 people. (Post)
News source(s): MSN

Over 80 people have died when an overloaded ship has sunk in Congo. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 13:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Needs some cleanup, and it should be a blurb, not ongoing. Regarding notability, we posted Sinking of the Zico but did not post 2024 Bangui river disaster, so I'm not sure. Sadly, those tragic incidents seem all too commonplace... Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:20, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree and entire understand what you mean. It's hard to say. But close to 90 people dead IMHO is notable even if it happens in a "third-world country". But I a also not 100% sure what the best approach here. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't really have in mind the "third-world country" aspect of it, but it's true that where it happened shouldn't matter for notability, especially since we just posted 2024 Mangaf building fire. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly even now the Bangui article is well below par for quality and length for posting. That was why it wasn't posted, so we shouldn't judge it that way. This article still needs more content before it meets the quality aspects we expect. — Masem (t) 15:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, in this case I would support on notability, provided the article is expanded enough. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Kwara boat disaster was also posted. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 18:20, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would support the story for notability, but the article is too short and in need of cleanup to meet quality and updated content standards. To quote the updated content standards, the traditional cut-off for what is enough has been around three complete, referenced and well-formed paragraphs~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 15:49, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: UEFA Euro 2024[edit]

Article: UEFA Euro 2024 (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

Yesterday marked the first match, the main international football championship in Europe, so it should be added to ongoing now. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 12:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I do not believe we have posted the Euros to Ongoing before (I checked 2016 and 2021 and they were both proposed but rejected). If I remember correctly the only sporting events that are posted to Ongoing are the Olympics and the (football) World Cup. Black Kite (talk) 12:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree here... Olympics and World Cup have wide international exposure as one of the reasons for these in ongoing. While this event is multinational, I don't think we should use ongoing for it. — Masem (t) 12:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, major soccer event. BilboBeggins (talk) 13:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No need for ongoing, we don't usually add that for sporting events and would be a slippery slope. We'll post the final result when it occurs and that's fine.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We can post the World Cup, but not the continental-level competitions, and doing this only for Europe would be more systemic bias. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per precedent. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose World level tournament for Ongoing. Result only for Continental. -- KTC (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kevin Campbell[edit]

Article: Kevin Campbell (footballer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English footballer, played for Arsenal and Everton (amongst others). Article needs a bit of referencing. Black Kite (talk) 10:04, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Matija Sarkic[edit]

Article: Matija Sarkic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Montenegran footballer. Article is reasonably well sourced but needs tidying up. Black Kite (talk) 08:57, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 14[edit]

June 14, 2024 (2024-06-14) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

  • At least six people are killed and more than 1,000 tourists are stranded in heavy rains and landslides across the state of Sikkim, India. (Reuters)

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Sreedharan Champad[edit]

Article: Sreedharan Champad (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Mathrubhumi (India)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian malayalam language author and historian. Ktin (talk) 17:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Nethercutt[edit]

Article: George Nethercutt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KremThe Spokesman-Review.
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American lawyer, author, and politician, very notable for defeating U.S. House Speaker Tom Foley in 1994.Needs a bit more work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Guy Warren (artist)[edit]

Article: Guy Warren (artist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SMH
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs a bit more work. Natg 19 (talk) 21:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 South African presidential election[edit]

Article: 2024 South African presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In South Africa, ANC leader Cyril Ramaphosa is re-elected as president, forming a government of national unity with the Democratic Alliance, the main opposition party. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In South Africa, ANC leader Cyril Ramaphosa is re-elected as president via a coalition with the Democratic Alliance, the main opposition party.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw55w4z3gqeo
Credits:

One of the most historic days in South African history! For the first time since the end of apartheid, the ANC no longer controls the government, and has coalitioned with the DA opposition. This is pretty huge for the country, as this is almost the equivalent of Republicans and Democrats forming a coalition government. Lots of media coverage as well. Might be good to create a separate article on the new government that has formed. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, finally, south africa can be free from ANC Tyranny! Lukt64 (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:POV, but yeah it's a big moment for SA. ANC are still in power though, just have to share it on a largely equal basis with their main rival. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the historic election results is already posted recently this is just a update. Shadow4dark (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Altblurb 1 suggested Rephrasing to replace the buzzword "government of national unity". — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Better word would be 'coalition' as the ANC and DA are jointly ruling the country now PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Changed "with the support of" to "via a coalition with". — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - we already posted the election. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We posted the 2023 re-election of Pedro Sánchez to ITN, however. Which you also opposed, I know. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    that was an exceptional case, as Sánchez managed to be re-elected prime minister after a controversial pact for a controversial amnesty law for those persecuted during the 2017 constitutional crisis, this being the main issue. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per all above. The election was already posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The target article is a woeful stub. Schwede66 03:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 13[edit]

June 13, 2024 (2024-06-13) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

  • The general secretary of the miners' confederation in Mali announces that at least 22 miners have died in Kalana, Mali, following the collapse of a mine tunnel five days ago. (Reuters)

Health and environment

  • A heatwave forces Greek authorities to close the Acropolis for visits during the afternoon. (AP)

International relations

Law and crime

RD: Angela Bofill[edit]

Article: Angela Bofill (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard Deadline
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American singer-songwriter.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Laurence Gluck[edit]

Article: Laurence Gluck (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Commercial Observer
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American real estate investor and landlord.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Mangaf fire[edit]

Article: 2024 Mangaf building fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 50 people have died after a fire broke out in a residential building in Kuwait City's suburb of Mangaf. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Reuters, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, France 24
Credits:

Ainty Painty (talk) 06:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support The death toll is on par with other natural and anthropogenic disasters that we typically post. Also since many of the victims were Indian, the fire has more international significance. Scaramouche33 (talk) 08:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the page has been moved. The new title "Kuwait Mangaf" strikes me as analogous to "Germany Bavaria" or "Canada Quebec". Though I guess that's a discussion for another page. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's now 2024 Kuwait Mangaf building fire. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to 2024 Mangaf building fire. Natg 19 (talk) 21:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support High death toll with significant coverage and a rare occurrence in the area. Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support High death toll and article appears to be in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted after I tweaked and updated the blurb. Schwede66 05:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 12[edit]

June 12, 2024 (2024-06-12) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: William H. Donaldson[edit]

Article: William H. Donaldson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former SEC chair. Ktin (talk) 01:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almost ready but the Yale School of Management claim is uncited, and doesn't seem to be corroborated by the school's article. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Almost ready) RD: Mike Downey (columnist)[edit]

Article: Mike Downey (columnist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American newspaper columnist needs expansion.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks alright to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Majed Abu Maraheel[edit]

Article: Majed Abu Maraheel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Felesteen
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

First Palestinian Olympian and flag-bearer. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Neil Goldschmidt[edit]

Article: Neil Goldschmidt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Oregon Live
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

(Posted) RD: Robert Hughes (basketball)[edit]

Article: Robert Hughes (basketball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American high school basketball coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Howard Fineman[edit]

Article: Howard Fineman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American journalist and television commentator.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support-ish looks ok, but some of the sources rely on information likely provided by the individual to organizations (introductions to speakers) and do not represent independent sourcing. However, I will still support. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose I agree with Classicwiki and I feel that the article should have a better balance of independent and primary sources. A good amount of the article's sources are from articles/sources that are likely from info he provided himself. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. NEeds better sourcing.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed, posted RD) RD/blurb: Jerry West[edit]

No consensus to blurb.—Bagumba (talk) 17:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Jerry West (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American basketball player Jerry West (pictured) dies at the age of 86 (Post)
News source(s): CBS Sports
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Basketball Hall of Famer, dubbed "The Logo." Most notable for his time as a player and executive for the Los Angeles Lakers KENGRIFFEY24FAN (talk) 14:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Article is a GA and I just resolved the last CN tag. pbp 14:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Still one CN tag in the "early life" section. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 14:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Plus I'm pretty sure his statistic sections need citations as well. rawmustard (talk) 14:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Corvette ZR1: Looks like an IP removed my source. I readded it, and the page has been protected.
@Rawmustard: The statistics are supported by the "external links" section, which links to statistical sites such as Basketball-Reference pbp 14:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know that whenever an actor/other film personnel is nominated, typically the filmography needs to have inline citations prior to the article being posted to front page, so I would presume the same would have to apply to a sportsperson's statistics. rawmustard (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rawmustard: I've added citations to the bottom of the table pbp 19:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support PBP fixed the citation issues, and the article looks good. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 15:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blurb transformative figure in basketball history. It is rumored that the NBA logo was modeled after him. Natg 19 (talk) 15:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb. A rumor about him inspiring a logo isn't Mandela/Thatcher level of blurbworthy. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blurb - Forget about the logo story. He still has many achievements as both player and executive and was one of the greatest of his time. I think that's worthy enough of a blurb. Prodrummer619 (talk) 18:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, leaning support blurb. The rare subject who was top tier both as a player and as an executive in their sport, and therefore transformative of the sport. BD2412 T 18:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Blurb. West is borderline notable for me, even as someone who probably isn't even top 5 on notability ever within their sport. To me though, I can't stop thinking about how we didn't post Bill Russell. IMO, Bill Russell's impact was greater, maybe nit within basketball solely, but with his civil rights impact factored in. So if we are to believe Russell wasn't transformative enough, then West isn't either, I'd say. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quite a shame that Russell did not get blurbed. I thought for sure that he did. Who is the most recent sportsman to get blurbed? Maradona? or was it Jim Brown? (OJ did, but for non sports reasons.) Natg 19 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Natg 19 The last one was Franz Beckenbauer in January this year. Given that he, Pele and Maradona (also blurbed) were generally regarded as the three greatest players of their generation, those were no-brainers really. The only living footballers that I can think of who might deserve a blurb are Messi, C.Ronaldo, Zidane and possibly the original Ronaldo, and hopefully we won't be meeting any of those here any time soon. Black Kite (talk) 09:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If O.J.’s excluded, I believe Kelvin Kiptum was the most recent athlete to be blurbed. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I forgot him. Although him dying at 25 in non-usual circumstances also helped. Black Kite (talk) 09:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doubt this is getting blurbed, as the soccer (football) players you listed above who were blurbed also have a claim to be the GOATs at their position. But Jerry was one of the greatest of his generation (1960s), along with Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, and Oscar Robertson. Natg 19 (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we should ever deathblurb people whose death as an event isn't notable (e.g. a serving head of government whose death causes a change in leadership, or a notable murder, etc). By that metric, almost no sportspeople qualify. I do not think this is a failure of the system, RD line exists for a reason. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, part of my reasoning for Russell was his civil rights impact. The same reason I think Jim Brown was worthy. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with orbitalbuzzsaw, ideally, deaths should be blurbed if the death has a tangible impact, "famous person dies" is otherwise what RD is for. I won't oppose the exceptional blurbing of someone of the Thatcher/Mandela standard, as their death will likely have some level of impact (a good rule of thumb is whether the person has an article for their death, like death of Nelson Mandela). It really should be about impact, not about popularity and/or unusualness of the death. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Russell should’ve been blurbed, but the failure to blurb Russell shouldn’t affect West. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that sentiment, but in the sense of there being no hard and fast distinction for deaths where the death itself wasn't the main story, I personally think a bar should be set, and when x is less notable than y with both persons within the same field, and y didn't get posted, then justifying posting for x's death is hard for me. DarkSide830 (talk) 18:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
West may be less notable than Russell as a player, but his accomplishments as a player & GM may make West more notable than Russell. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Article is in good quality. Supporting blurb because West is highly influential in his field and not to mention he's the NBA logo too! Article definitely reflects his influential status/impact he had. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, weak support RD there's some unsourced lines. And, really, it is getting out of hand to propose blurbs lightly. Opposing for DarkSide. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb not a serving political head, manner of death not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, support RD per Darkside830 ‍Relativity ⚡️ 22:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb The article is of sufficient quality for RD, but there isn't anything particularly noteworthy about the death in itself. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:05, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb This is the type of person for whom Recent Deaths was created. We should not be blurbing the death of every basketballer (or every sportsperson generally) just because they were better than average. Chrisclear (talk) 09:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb He was elected to the Basketball HOF on 3 separate occasions, is the only person to be enshrined as a player & a contributor (the latter is for his accomplishments as a GM) & his silhouette is the basis for the NBA’s logo. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb. Not of Thatcher or Mandela stature, and it's really time to stop proposing blurbs for all and sundry, just because they were successful sportsmen or whatever.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb. Perfect for RD, but not exactly world-changing. Yakikaki (talk) 12:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb, weak oppose RD, while his achievements are noteworthy within basketball, he's completely unknown for people who isn't into basketball. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 12:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted to RD. There don't seem to be quality concerns, so no need to wait on the RD. Discussion can continue on possible blurbing, although I'd imagine consensus isn't in favour of that as yet. (disclaimer: I'm involved on that score as I already opined on the question above). Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - the idea that it needs to be Mandela or Thatcher (seriously, why is Margaret Thatcher cited here lol) is not one that has any basis in the guidelines or our past history. West was transformational in his sport, no less so than Shane Warne for example. nableezy - 18:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Mandela-Thatcher standard is very much based in our history. The effect was effectively effected in December of 2012, while they were only mostly dead in a roughly contemporary fashion. Sure, there've been other timely pairs since that could've taken the title, but the people have spoken and the stickiness has stuck (OMD). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thatcher and Mandela both died in 2013, so you might have gotten your timeline mixed up a little bit here. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I said it was while they were only mostly dead; see the last (now shown first) entry regarding hospital whataboutism in Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/December 2012. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My bad, looks like I misread, sorry! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, some people are fond of repeating the same thing, based on some misguided belief that Margaret Thatcher, giggle, is in the same league as Nelson Mandela in basically any way, and then they try to impose that as the standard for any blurb of a death. If Nelson Mandela is the standard we should never blurb another person's death unless they die in unusually noteworthy circumstances. nableezy - 23:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nelson Mandela is no more the standard alone than both are combined. As you say, this is just something people say. In practice, the only deaths we should blurb are the deaths we do blurb. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Idk why I’m engaging with this, but we blurb plenty of non heads of state, and I literally laugh out loud when people blurt out Thatcher here. But Shane Warne would be the closest example here, and guess what, blurbed. Please stop with the Thatcher Mandela nonsense, because a. The two of them aren’t in the same league anyway, and b. That has nothing to do with if a person should be or has been blurbed. nableezy - 02:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The reason we use them as examples is that both had a significant impact on their country's politics clearly demonstrating how they were great figures and top of their field (it also helped both had significant state funerals that lasted multiple days). It's why we're looking we're looking for the same here, and this article lacks a significant demonstration of why he had a lasting impact or legacy (I'm ignoring the NBA logo issue here). He's got some but not anywhere close to what we'd see with other sport legends like Pele or Jim Brown Masem (t) 03:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The difference between West and Wayne vs. Mandela and Thatcher is that most people in the world have some semblance of knowledge of who either Thatcher or Mandela were due to their international impact. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who knows either West or Warne unless they're already interested in that specific sport. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Shane Warne's death was blurbed, in case you missed that part. nableezy - 13:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb: No doubt he's an important part of the history of the NBA, but for such a young sport/league, I think it's tough to argue that a guy who's not a consensus top 3 of the most important NBA people should be blurbed.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 19:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb His death is non-remarkable. HiLo48 (talk) 02:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Blurb per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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June 11[edit]

June 11, 2024 (2024-06-11) (Tuesday)

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RD: Éric Tappy[edit]

Article: Éric Tappy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTS (in French, among others)
Credits:

Article updated
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Legendary Swiss tenor, Orfeo, Tamino, Pelleas. There wasn't much of an article, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Marina Tarkovskaya[edit]

Article: Marina Tarkovskaya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Pais
Credits:

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Russian writer and critic. The younger sister of Andrei Tarkovsky. Thriley (talk) 22:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tony Lo Bianco[edit]

Article: Tony Lo Bianco (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment unfortunately the tables are mostly unsourced (and I am unlikely to tackle). Prose looks decent though. Not ready yet. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Filmography unsourced and there's a section of the career part that's unsourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Orest Lenczyk[edit]

Article: Orest Lenczyk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Eurosport/TVN24 (in Polish)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nationally famous Polish football manager. Needs a few more citations. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(RD posted) RD/blurb: Françoise Hardy[edit]

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Article: Françoise Hardy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  French singer-songwriter and actress Françoise Hardy (pictured) dies at the age of 80 (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde , The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is updated and well sourced. Seeing how the article definitely reflects her legacy, impact on French culture and also impact on the modern-day music industry, not sure if it warrants a blurb? Regardless, article (IMO) is good for RD. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support RD, oppose blurb The article is of more than sufficient quality for RD, but the manner of death was not notable, and thus a blurb is not warranted. In my opinion, death blurbs should only be in place when the death itself is a notable event. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD 💔 what a loss ꧁Zanahary꧂ 04:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb, as the legacy section states : Hardy was celebrated as a "French national treasure" and one of the greatest figures in French music of all time., I think that it's enough to deserve a blurb. Alexcalamaro (talk) 04:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Seconded. I support blurb based on this. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb. Loads of people are labelled "national treasures", that doesn't mean we blurb them. There's too much of the "this person is famous, let's blurb them" going on these days. Is Hardy a major figure of the Thatcher / Mandela stature? No. So we don't blurb her, it's that simple. If people want to lower the bar across the board or impose a different standard such as "major contributor" then that should be agreed at WT:ITN first.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Article good for RD though? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it looks fine on that score. The only issue I can see is length. At 12,000 words, it's halfway between "probably should be trimmed" and "almost certainly should be trimmed", per WP:TOOLONG guidelines, but I won't object to ITN on that basis. Support RD.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, we have posted Tina Turner and Tony Bennet as blurbs before, based in the "major contributors" or "transformative in their field" rationale. Hardy may belong to the same league. Alexcalamaro (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb per Amakuru. Was she famous in France? Yes. Was she important enough for her death to be blurbed as a standalone news item? No. *Support RD on quality. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD looks well sourced (minus the lede). --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb not a serving head of state or government, manner of death not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posting RD, consensus against blurb. The article looks great. --Tone 07:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Hunter Biden[edit]

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Hunter Biden (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hunter Biden, son of U.S. President Joe Biden, is convicted in a federal court in Delaware on three felony counts of possession of a firearm while under the influence of narcotics. (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Mia Mahey (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Update on H. Biden's article is sufficient and event should be historic enough to warrant a blurb. Bremps... 18:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Unlike the Trump conviction, this is insignificant. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, as much as some politicians are trying to make this into a big deal, this is no different than any other low level crime. Yes, it’s a felony. No, it’s not a relevant felony, and it doesn’t become so just because he’s the President’s son. If Joe himself were convicted of this maybe it’d be newsworthy but probably not. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 18:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - he's a private citizen convicted of something inconsequential in the national or international grand scheme of things and bears no real meaning other than providing obvious partisan talking points. If he was convicted over something related to his father's presidency, that might be another matter. RPH (talk) 18:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Hunter Biden is only a public figure because his father is a public figure; absent increased involvement from his father (for example, a presidential pardon) then this doesn't warrant posting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose irrelevant for ITN. _-_Alsor (talk) 19:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Local trivia. Black Kite (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per RPH. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The events of his life have little real world impact. Compare it to the recent Indian election, where hundreds of millions of people voted in a democratic election to form a new government. You can't compare the scale of the two events. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Khushboo (Pakistani actress)[edit]

Article: Khushboo (Pakistani actress) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 03:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Six sentences of prose at the moment. Needs citations. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 03:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait There's more info in the two headlines I read than in the current article, and who knows what might grow from those entire articles? For now, though, yeah. Way too stubby. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's no mention of her death outside of the infobox yet. Too much of a stub. Estreyeria (talk) 14:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 10[edit]

June 10, 2024 (2024-06-10) (Monday)

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RD: Brad Dusek[edit]

Article: Brad Dusek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 15:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • It would be nice to know what he did for the last 40 years. Stephen 22:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted blurb) RD/blurb: Saulos Chilima[edit]

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Article: Saulos Chilima (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Malawi Vice President Saulos Chilima (pictured) and 9 others are killed in a plane crash (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A plane crash in Malawi causes the death of Vice President Saulos Chilima (pictured) and nine others.
News source(s): The Times of IndiaCNN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Malawi Vice President died in Air Crash.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, blurb? Андрій ЯЧ (talk) 11:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The plane crash event is noteworthy enough to be a blurb. 10 casualties including VP of a country. Didgogns (talk) 15:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Blurb Article is of sufficient quality and event is major enough. Bremps... 18:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
added altblurb. Sheila1988 (talk) 19:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb However, shouldn't the target article be the plane crash itself? Also worth noting, former first lady was also among the casualties. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the target article should be the plane crash. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 22:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull Blurb, leave RD Current precedent seems to be that deaths generally shouldn't be blurbed unless they're ITN/R. As Saulos Chilima was not a Head of Government, (or even a Head of State) this means it's not ITN/R. And as for overall notability, Chilima wasn't exactly a "transformative" figure, or at least there's nothing to indicate that in the article. I feel that this was posted far too hastily, given that it spent less than 12 hours since nomination. Nottheking (talk) 11:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Technically the blurb is centering around the plane crash itself not just his death. The crash itself is notable enough as it killed a sitting VP, a former first lady and eight others. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: James Lawson (activist)[edit]

Article: James Lawson (activist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tennessee Lookout,Los Angeles Sentinel
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American activist and university professor.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Steele Hall[edit]

Article: Steele Hall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Premier of South Australia and Australian Senator.

NB: I created this article (20 years ago). Hall is perhaps most famous for changing electoral laws to remove the gerrymander that had kept his party in government for decades, thus all but ensuring his defeat at the next election. There can't be too many examples of politicians willing to do such a thing. --Roisterer (talk) 09:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Roisterer, could you address the CN tags in the article please? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 09:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

European Parliament election[edit]

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Article: 2024 European Parliament election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The European People's Party Group wins the most seats in the European Parliament election (outcome pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The European People's Party Group (main candidate Ursula von der Leyen pictured) obtains the most seats in the European Parliament election.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

I see lots of news reports about this so what exactly are we waiting for? It might help to make a start. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait A little premature perhaps as the article doesn't even have the seat breakdown yet nor have they finished announcing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Last time it seems that ITN posted two days after the polls closed, on the Tuesday. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality. Article is in bad shape with many empty sections and very little content on the results, reactions and implications. There's long way to go before this gets posted.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait/Oppose on quality. Too many empty sections. Wait until the article is expanded and provisional election results/seat breakdowns are available. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 08:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait and Improve - We should post this, but we need an acceptable article. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Might be good to mention the surge in support of right-wing parties in the European Parliament, which has been a massive talking point in this election PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I concur, this seems to be the main thing the news is reporting. Curbon7 (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Ursula von der Leyen did not run in this election, and the leader of the EPP is currently the German politician Manfred Weber. --2.248.103.101 (talk) 13:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure of all the details but the BBC live report indicates that she's in the driving seat, e.g.

    European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen says she will approach social democratic and liberal parties that she has worked with in the past to form a majority in the European Parliament.

    The nominated article lists seven alliances and four of them are shown to have leaders who were not running as MEPs. If there's a better way of explaining the result, I expect there will be alt blurbs suggested. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment von der Leyen is the main candidate, but not the leader of the EPP group. It should as such not say "led by" in the text. I would instead replace it with "The European People's Party Group (main candidate Ursula von der Leyen pictured) wins the most seats in the European Parliament election." I will also say that I would be cautious with writing anything which could imply that UvdL is guarenteed to continue as Commission President. So I would prefer using the term "win" if it is possible. Gust Justice (talk) 19:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To understand this, I read Ursula von der Leyen in pole position.... This indicates that her getting a second term as President is decided by national leaders and then endorsed by the parliament. So, that seems to be a separate process, just as election of the US President is separate from the election of Congress. Right? I'm therefore not convinced that we ought to personalise this by showing a particular politician but it's good to have an image of some sort. I'll adjust the nomination... Andrew🐉(talk) 19:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This indicates that her getting a second term as President is decided by national leaders and then endorsed by the parliament. Leaders of the 27 member states (on June 27) and majority of MEPs (secret ballot voting; tentative July 18) [2]. So imo, delay this ITN to July 18.— hako9 (talk) 21:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the blurb which was posted in 2019 was as follows:

In the European Parliament election, the centre-right and centre-left lose seats. Liberals, the far-right, greens and regionalists make the largest gains.

The Presidential process was not included. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article is about the elections to the European Parliament. Because of the unusual institutional setup of the EU, the election of the Commission President is a separate, later election (as noted above), and in any case the Commission isn't exactly equivalent to a government in function and form. I would therefore strongly suggest a blurb focusing only on the parliamentary elections and the outcome in terms of party groups, and leave VDL out of this for now. There is however no reason to delay the article until she is reelected (or not) as that election is another affair, strictly speaking. Yakikaki (talk) 07:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not ready. There are five orange-tagged sections and no prose at all about the results. The empty sections could simply be removed or merged into others, but there also needs to be at least a full referenced paragraph describing the outcome, reactions etc. Modest Genius talk 11:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FWIW, I do think the blurb should avoid mentioning von der Leyen, because the Commission and the Parliament are two separate bodies. Modest Genius talk 11:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not that it's not ready, but the article is in such a terrible shape that all of the questions in the foregoing discussion should've not been raised because the article is supposed to provide the answers.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but wait on the basis of WP:ITNELECTIONS, but wait until the full results come out, and there are still two orange tagged sections. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 21:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment and wait The notion that European People's Party Group is the "winner" is quite misleading. We should wait until there is a clearer picture of the fractions within the Parliament, and that may take some weeks... --212.247.95.190 (talk) 20:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternate Blluurrbbb #002 The strong results of the National Rally in the 2024 European Parliament election led Emmanuel Macron to dissolve the lower house of the French parliament, the leaders of the The Republicans to fire their president Éric Ciotti in a unanimous decision overturned in court two days later, the left-wing parties to unite in a New Popular Front, and the leader of Reconquête to fire vice president Marion Maréchal for "treachery". (§)— Preceding unsigned comment added by SashiRolls (talk • contribs)

June 9[edit]

June 9, 2024 (2024-06-09) (Sunday)

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(Posted) RD: Lynn Conway[edit]

Article: Lynn Conway (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American computer scientist, and transgender activist Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support seems well sourced. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Article looks fine. I would even hover the idea of a blurb for her impact on computer technology, but I don't think the quality of the article is appropriate for it yet. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Estreyeria (talk) 13:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted – Schwede66 22:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Edward C. Stone[edit]

Article: Edward C. Stone (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Time
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American space scientist. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unfortunately there is a ton of unreferenced material in the article. The {{cn}} and {{unreferenced section}} tags will need to be dealt with before this could be posted in RD. Modest Genius talk 11:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eight {cn} tags remaining in the prose, with half of the string of bullet-points following the prose unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 12:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewers needed) 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election[edit]

Article: 2024 Bulgarian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ GERB wins a plurality of seats in the Bulgarian parliamentary election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ GERB–SDS wins the most seats in the Bulgarian parliamentary election, but it does not obtain a majority in the National Assembly.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Part 2 of Europe's "Super Sunday" elections, and Bulgaria's 6th general election in 3 years. Curbon7 (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Aftermath section needs to be expanded and prose needed for results section. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 03:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It looks like it has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 21:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Almost ready It needs a longer lead (one that explains the outcome). We don't post the word "plurality" on the main page as it's too obscure. Lastly, it was GERB–SDS that won the plurality and an updated hook should show that. Schwede66 03:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66: I added some sentences to the lead & an altblurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Simon Cowell (conservationist)[edit]

Article: Simon Cowell (conservationist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British conservationist. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 20:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate There's a much more famous Simon Cowell and so running this in the usual RD way is unacceptably confusing and misleading. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not an argument for opposing. You can create a discussion on the talk page to change the "usual RD way" if that is an issue for you. Natg 19 (talk) 21:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson is that a real policy argument for opposing a RD? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue has come up before but I don’t recall exactly how disambiguation was done. The point is that we need to make it clear which Simon Cowell we’re talking about. It’s a significant BLP issue. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think there have been rare instances where the name with disambiguator is in the RD line, i.e. Simon Cowell (conservationist). But this is usually up to the posting admin to decide. Natg 19 (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Searching, I find a previous case was Sudan in 2018 in which a disambiguation was added. More recently, a rough consensus to disambiguate in such cases was agreed in this discussion. And this was then done for a Bob Brown. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. He was notable; he's dead; article looks ok. I suspect his talents far exceeded those of his more famous namesake. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Martinevans, but as to Andrew's concerns, I do think the (conservationist) disambiguator should be included in the listing. The Kip (contribs) 23:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I tried to address the CN tags in the article. I am a little iffy on the alumni verification. Room for improvement, but looks ok. I think going with the current parenthetical, (conservationist) or (wildlife conservationist), would be enough of a disambiguator. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 01:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted (with disambiguator). Black Kite (talk) 07:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Stephen altered this back to the "regular" format (Simon Cowell), but then switched it to its current form (Simon M. Cowell). This seems to be a workable compromise to me. Natg 19 (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Belgian federal election[edit]

Proposed image
Article: 2024 Belgian federal election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Belgian federal election, the incumbent coalition government, led by prime minister Alexander De Croo, lose their parliamentary majority. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In the Belgian federal election, the New Flemish Alliance remains the largest party in parliament, but the governing coalition (prime minister Alexander De Croo pictured) loses its majority.
News source(s): The Guardian, AP News, Politico
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Part 1 of Europe's "Super Sunday" elections. Curbon7 (talk) 06:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Technical Support Should be "its" parliamentary majority, as a coalition, but close enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's an ENGVAR issue that shouldn't interfere with posting. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No stalling intended, it's ready when it's ready, just seems the sort of potential ERRORS issue best checked preemptively. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Article is currently lacking in prose and analysis. Will support when it improves. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle once the article is ready. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: this is almost sufficient, but there's an orange-tagged section and I'd like to see a bit more referenced prose in the 'results' and 'aftermath' sections. Modest Genius talk 11:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I added some prose to the aftermath section YD407OTZ (talk) 17:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. The article now meets our minimum requirements, so I support posting. I've added an altblurb and a potential image. Modest Genius talk 10:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Article is ready to go Sharrdx (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Almost ready I'd like to see some prose in the section "Opinion polls". Schwede66 00:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66: I added prose to the "Opinion polls" section, but the article may need more citations. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Including for the part that you added, Blaylockjam10. Schwede66 01:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That’s true. I based that on the lead of the Opinion polling for the 2024 Belgian elections article, but I’m going to do some alterations based on what’s in the body of that article. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 01:34, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only one CN tag left, regarding that polling sentence YD407OTZ (talk) 02:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've had a closer look. To understand what's going on, I had a look at the composition of the Vivaldi coalition. Adding up the seats of the seven parties that make up the coalition, I come to 76 seats, i.e. 2 more than the remaining parties. That isn't spelled out in the article or in any of the result tables; please tell me if I've missed that. Either way, if I've got that right, then both hooks above are factually wrong. What am I missing? Schwede66 03:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, however multiple parties (Open VLD - which supplied the PM -, Groen, PS) in the Vivaldi coalition have announced they don't want to be part of the new government due to the bad results for their party. I'm not defending the blurbs as they're written right now, but it's a little bit more complicated than just adding seats. YD407OTZ (talk) 05:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) French Open[edit]

Proposed image
Article: 2024 French Open (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In tennis, Iga Świątek wins the Women's Singles and Carlos Alcaraz wins the Men's Singles at the French Open. (Post)
News source(s): Women's singles, Men's Singles
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: This year's article has prose which various previous grand slam nominations lacked. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support finally a grand slam event article that actually have prose. LiamKorda 03:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: although the singles articles are mostly tables, the target article is good shape. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support Once the lede is properly written, the article is good to go. Unnamelessness (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality - the bottom four sections of the results - Boys' singles, Girls' singles, Boys' doubles and Girls' doubles - are lacking prose at the moment. I'm also not convinced we need that "Champions" section at the bottom; that is nonstandard, uncited and seems to be almost just a glorified gallery.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Amakuru Please look into the article once again. I've tried address both of your concerns. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. For the first time I can remember, a nominated tennis article has proper prose summaries of the tournament, not just tables. This looks good to me, thanks for the much better article this time around. I think this is ready to post. Modest Genius talk 11:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There were no further comments in 24 hours, so I'm marking this as ready to post. Modest Genius talk 11:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This article has prose summaries w/enough details & it has sufficient references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 23:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Siri Kannangara[edit]

Article: Siri Kannangara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Times, Daily FT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Inducted to the Football Australia Hall of Fame in 2002. He was also conferred with a Member (AM) in the General Division of the Order of Australia during 2013 Queen's Birthday Honours (Australia). Abishe (talk) 17:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Michael Mosley[edit]

Article: Michael Mosley (broadcaster) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC, BBC, ITV, NYT, NZ Herald
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Date found dead. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 08:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait for confirmation. Most sources I'm seeing are saying it's "believed to be" him so shouldn't post prematurely as a BLP issue.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, but the mayor has said it was likely him.
    Seeing that they're saying cause of death is likely heat and dehydration.
    178.19.184.210 (talk) 178.19.184.210 (talk) 09:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • A mayor is not a coroner and the key word is likely. Nothing will happen if we wait a few hours for a formal identification and declaration. Think how you would feel if the world's online encyclopedia confirmed your loved one dead before you had been to inspect the body Unknown Temptation (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blurb Identification seems likely to be a formality now. It's worthy of a blurb because his mysterious disappearance has been front-page news lately and the readership has been correspondingly high – greater than William Anders, for example. And it's international news; for example: "British TV Doctor Michael Mosley Found Dead in Greece" in the New York Times. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb If he is all that great of a British journalist, his article is nowhere close to a standard that would be appropriate for a blurb. I see some facets that might lead to that impression but nowhere close to demonstrating him as a great figure in British TV news presenting. We also, again, do not use page views to judge ITN appropriateness. --Masem (t) 12:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb While he's well known in the UK, he's not particularly known globally. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 12:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per WP:ITNDONT, "Please do not... Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country". Andrew🐉(talk) 07:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand what you're getting at, but isn't that aimed at "Irrelevant for me/I don't like country X, so therefore I oppose." opposes? I'm not trying game, but what I'm getting at is that I don't think his death is particularly meaningful to the vast majority of people outside the UK to warrant a blurb, compared to that of major world leader or similarly internationally well known person. 31.44.224.73 (talk) 11:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See How the presenter transformed people's lives, "It is not an exaggeration to say Dr Michael Mosley transformed people’s lives. ... Tributes are now pouring in..." Andrew🐉(talk) 07:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Not a transformative figure, which is the general criteria for a death blurb to be posted. And Television section needs more sources before being posted to RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't support a blurb either, but surely in this case the criteria would be "death is the story" rather than him being "transformative." Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, the death isn't a major news story either. Unusual, yes, front-page story, probably not. And not every unusual RD has to be a blurb. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The story was on the front page of most UK papers today. And that's after days of similar coverage. And all that's before the body was found so there will be even more tomorrow. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And today, following discovery of the body, the news is on the front page of every UK newspaper except the FT. The coverage is mostly the main photo story or takes the entire front page. While on Wikipedia, it was the top read article for the day, getting half a million views while William Anders got just 40K. The RD picks that ITN is actually running got comparatively few views; they are obviously not prominent in the news and readers aren't interested in a dry list of unknown names. Useless.
We can expect yet more coverage tomorrow as the news is still breaking. The latest is that they've found CCTV of him falling down... Andrew🐉(talk) 07:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ITN, and especially RD, isn't just about how many views the articles are getting. Especially since we're not picking RDs based on fame or anything, but based on article quality. And, for some people outside of the UK, Michael Mosley can be just as much of an unknown name as any of them. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew keeps pushing this argument, and it's nonsense. The number of views an article receives should have no impact whatsoever on whether we post it to ITN. I think perhaps we should update ITNCDONT to reflect this, because it's getting tiresome. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GenevieveDEon: Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is that way. BangJan1999 13:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:ITNRDBLURB, the posting of RD blurbs is determined on a "a sui generis basis" which seems to mean that anything goes and so editors may support or oppose for their own reasons. Chaotic Enby's reason for not posting was that "the death isn't a major news story either. Unusual, yes, front-page story, probably not". Evidence is therefore needed to show that this claim is false. The story is, in fact, all over the front pages and the evidence is that it's dwarfing the recent accidental death of William Anders for whom a blurb has also been suggested. See evidence-based practice. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD oppose blurb Article looks good and was a notable figure in the uk Sharrdx (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb his disappearance was in the news for a few days, while he probably died of natural causes. This isn't a Lord Lucan or a Madeleine McCann. I don't know a lot about dieting, but I highly doubt that Mosley's work was as noted in the field as Dr Atkins, for example. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb Good for RD but this isn't big enough for a blurb. Johndavies837 (talk) 14:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Most of the Television section is unreferenced. - SchroCat (talk) 20:31, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD oppose blurb: when citations are added to aforementioned problem sections. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 08:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb Looks fine as an RD but I agree with above, not transformative enough beyond the UK to justify a blurb. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • An unfortunate accident for sure, but no more significant than an individual of his fame dying in a car accident. The section is good, but it's not enough for a blurb at his level. I think a lack of responses to the death described in the article is part of the issue. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, oppose blurb - While the story of his disappearance has been a nine days' wonder, the actual circumstances are not such as to merit a blurb here. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb Extensively covered in British news for the last few days. Death very unlikely to be foul play, probably not notable enough for blurb. Angusgtw (talk) 11:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD, oppose blurb: Very extensive media coverage. No issues with article quality (although now stuck with an inappropriate image).Martinevans123 (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: post-mortem has established that he died on 5 June. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The Television section is heavily missing references, some items are cited, most are not. The rest is fine and once fixed, a consensus seems to be for RD. --Tone 13:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD per coverage, oppose blurb per WP:CRETINISM. ——Serial Number 54129 16:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Cretans are people too, you know. Please give them a break. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Television section still needs some more cites.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There is clear consensus against a blurb so I am removing that option to avoid any more unneeded pile-on. Instead, reviewers should focus on if the article meets the RD criteria. Curbon7 (talk) 21:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD, quality is fine. Modest Genius talk 11:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Fine", except for the television section, which is still woefully short of citations. - SchroCat (talk) 05:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @SchroCat, @Joseph2302, @Tone, @Amakuru, I have tried to source the television section. I am marking it as ready (at least for RD), feel free to remove if you think more needs to be done.
(Given the number of times I have done this, I wonder WP:FILMOGRAPHY/MOS:FILMOGRAPHY guidance language should be updated to highly recommend references.) --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 06:55, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 8[edit]

June 8, 2024 (2024-06-08) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Posted) RD: Chet Walker[edit]

Article: Chet Walker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

N.B.A. Player and Movie Producer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks good with the additional references. Ready to post. Natg 19 (talk) 16:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ramoji Rao[edit]

Article: Ramoji Rao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Need Work .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as the lists are mostly unreferenced. Schwede66 22:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A stubby wikibio with only 230 words of prose, followed by a large table and a long string of bullet-points that lack sources. Please expand this wikibio and add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 12:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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