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Category:Griffith family
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 17:57, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Griffith family
- Nominator's rationale: This is not a family, but multiple families. Patti D'Arbanville, Jesse Johnson and Noel Marshall are not related to Peter Griffith in any way. Steven Bauer, Don Johnson and Antonio Banderas were related to him at one time, but ceased being his sons-in-law when they divorced Melanie. If you were to remove these six people from the list, all that's left are two children, one ex-wife and one grandchild—not enough to warrant their own Category. Yours6700 (talk) 23:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've also proposed the Peter Griffith article for deletion. Yours6700 (talk) 20:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Maine Red Claws
- Propose merging Category:Maine Red Claws to Category:Maine Celtics
- Nominator's rationale: The team rebranded itself but it is the same club in the same building. Having two categories is unnecessary. User:Namiba 21:10, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Namiba, I'm assuming this is for merging Category:Maine Red Claws to Category:Maine Celtics, not renaming it, correct? If so, merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Cleveland Indians seasons
- Propose merging Category:Cleveland Indians seasons to Category:Cleveland Guardians seasons
- Nominator's rationale: Per name change. User:Namiba 18:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom—we don't need two seasons categories for the same team. Most of the category was manually merged, so this would finish the job. To avoid potential confusion, it probably would be a good idea to retain Category:Cleveland Indians seasons as a category redirect. - Eureka Lott 19:04, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Umm... I don't know about this one because a lot of teams which moved have their own detailed trees, including seperate categories for seasons. But it differs from how drastic the move was (if that makes sense). @Muboshgu, @Spanneraol, @Yankees10, pinging from WP:Baseball for your take on this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I don't have an issue with multiple categories for teams that have relocated—but there was no move in this instance. It's the same team in the same city, just with a different name. - Eureka Lott 20:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @EurekaLott, that is a fair point; also, just checked again and name changes while in the same city don't have their own categories. In that case, merge per nom. On the same note, I wonder if we should rename/merge the Category:Cleveland Indians and its subcategories. What do you think? Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of merging the categories, but I expect that not everyone would agree. When a similar merge was proposed a decade ago, we were unable to obtain consensus. - Eureka Lott 00:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @EurekaLott, the team personel having seperate categories makes sense but at least Category:Cleveland Indians stadiums should be merged/renamed because the team is the same and its the same history in the end. But I can see why people would be against it and there are others similar categorizations. But the "season" one should go through. Its already mostly done anyways. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of merging the categories, but I expect that not everyone would agree. When a similar merge was proposed a decade ago, we were unable to obtain consensus. - Eureka Lott 00:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @EurekaLott, that is a fair point; also, just checked again and name changes while in the same city don't have their own categories. In that case, merge per nom. On the same note, I wonder if we should rename/merge the Category:Cleveland Indians and its subcategories. What do you think? Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I don't have an issue with multiple categories for teams that have relocated—but there was no move in this instance. It's the same team in the same city, just with a different name. - Eureka Lott 20:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Umm... I don't know about this one because a lot of teams which moved have their own detailed trees, including seperate categories for seasons. But it differs from how drastic the move was (if that makes sense). @Muboshgu, @Spanneraol, @Yankees10, pinging from WP:Baseball for your take on this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Rhythm and blues music genres
- Propose renaming Category:Rhythm and blues music genres to Category:Rhythm and blues genres
- Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other similar categories. No need to clarify that it is music. Solidest (talk) 17:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Black metal subgenres
- Propose renaming Category:Black metal subgenres to Category:Black metal genres
- Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other similar categories. Solidest (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Drum and bass subgenres
- Propose renaming Category:Drum and bass subgenres to Category:Drum and bass genres
- Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other similar categories. Solidest (talk) 17:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Contemporary folk subgenres
- Propose renaming Category:Contemporary folk subgenres to Category:Contemporary folk genres
- Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other similar categories. Solidest (talk) 17:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ambassadors of the Tsardom of Russia to Poland
- Nominator's rationale: Correct polity is the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, not modern Poland. Constantine ✍ 16:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom, or upmerge to the parent categories as there are only two articles here. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:ADD
- Propose renaming Category:ADD to Category:Agency for Defense Development
- Nominator's rationale: The article is Agency for Defense Development. "ADD" is ambiguous, and redirects to Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, for which there is also a category. Peter James (talk) 14:13, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Agree I think it is better to change the name of the category to "Agency for Defense Development" for clarity of the category. Gasiseda (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Entertainment Studios
- Propose renaming Category:Entertainment Studios to Category:Allen Media Group
- Nominator's rationale: C2D: Consistency with main article's name Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Dem
- Nominator's rationale: There is no Dem article so I'm not sure where this category belongs in the category hierarchy. Should it be deleted or merged somewhere else? Liz Read! Talk! 03:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete if only because it is a redudant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, looks like this was intended to be an article, and the edit to Category:Khatri surnames was an attempt to add this name to the list of names in the category, but with no references and not much content the page would be deleted or moved to Draft. There is an article Jamil Dem, but the subject is a German footballer of Senegalese descent. There is also Yeshey Dem, where the sort key is "Dem, Yeshey", but based on the template at the top of another Bhutanese person Dawa Dem and lack of sort key for Damchae Dem it's possibly not a surname. Peter James (talk) 14:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, yes indeed Peter, this category was clearly created in error. It was an attempt by the creator User:Ramit Dem to add their surname to the category Category:Khatri surnames, as indicated in their edit summaries.[1],[2]. See also my discussion with them at their talk page. --DB1729talk 15:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just trying to update the list as it is not having my surname but if it will be deleted then how the information will be available on the web as there is no information available about my linage? Ramit Dem (talk) 15:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Ramit Dem: if your linage is a notable topic, you should first write an article about the topic, with reference to reliable sources. This is a forum for discussion about categories, not about articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just trying to update the list as it is not having my surname but if it will be deleted then how the information will be available on the web as there is no information available about my linage? Ramit Dem (talk) 15:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Thanks for investigating this, fellow editors. The category is empty now so I guess this discussion can be closed after the appropriate time has passed. Liz Read! Talk! 17:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Turkish prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Turkish prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Turkish archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Slovenian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Slovenian archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Portuguese prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Portuguese archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:New Zealand prehistorians to Category:New Zealand archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Hungarian prehistorians to Category:Hungarian archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Jordanian prehistorians to Category:Jordanian archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Cypriot prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Cypriot archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Chinese prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Chinese archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Chilean prehistorians to Category:Chilean archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Canadian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Canadian archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Iranian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Iranian archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Bulgarian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Bulgarian archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Bosnian prehistorians to Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Belgian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Belgian archaeologists
- Propose splitting Category:Angolan prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Angolan social scientists
- Propose splitting Category:Albanian prehistorians to Category:Albanian archaeologists and Category:Prehistorians
- Propose splitting Category:Namibian prehistorians to Category:Prehistorians and Category:Namibian archaeologists
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one page in each of these categories, which isn't helpful for navigation. Not every nationality needs a category Mason (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom, with one exception: Osvaldo Silva in Category:Chilean prehistorians was not an archaeologist so there should be a single merge in that case. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support, but there should be very few people left in Category:Prehistorians. In most of the world, this isn't really a thing, there being nothing but archaeology to go on. Johnbod (talk) 15:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Jewish systems scientists
- Propose merging Category:Jewish systems scientists to Category:Jewish scientists
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection per EGRS. I've already added everyone to a FOOian systems scientists category Mason (talk) 01:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Seborgan independence activists
- Propose merging Category:Seborgan independence activists to Category:Seborga
- Nominator's rationale: Extremely narrow category Mason (talk) 00:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, not even a proper activist. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:People born in the Confederate States
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. This category is just about people who were born in the 1860s in the south. This is not a defining location. Mason (talk) 00:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete' per WP:TRIVIALCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)