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Din Mohammad Jurat

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Article subject fails to meet WP:GNG. The only source of which I can find about him on Google was about him being sacked as an advisor. Nothing else more than that. Also the creator of the article seems to be a newbie which I guess hasn't practiced about the wikipedia article wizard before contributing to wikipedia. You can also visit here for further reference. Most of the reference used on this particular article headline are not corresponding to the original source. Maybe he had to fake it to make it look like its an independent reliable source. Gabriel (talk to me ) 18:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Businesspeople, and Politicians. Gabriel (talk to me ) 18:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per ladmc. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This article clearly meet the Wp:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN.

please have a look at these reliable sources.

• • BBC (1) (2) (3) (4)
  • CNN (5)
  • New york times (6)
  • VOA (7)
  • Radio free europe (8)

Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 21:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the link you have provided still doesn't address why he was nominated for an AFD. The only reasonable news was that he was sacked. The rest of the news has nothing to do with him apart from him being sacked. Editors should take note that the article creator was the same person who voted this keep.--Gabriel (talk to me ) 21:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about this one ?

https://www.afghan-bios.info/index.php?option=com_afghanbios&id=795&task=view&total=1733&start=766&Itemid=2 Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The sources (including the above) only briefly mention him so lack of significant coverage and he barely passes WP:POLITICIAN. The Afgan bios source is better so if there are more like this I might change my mind. The article will need a rewrite though as it is a mess. — Iadmc♫^talk  21:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  please have a look at this :https://generalmohammadjurat.blogspot.com/2017/05/1340.html Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 16:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Also this one https://generaljurat.blogspot.com/ Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 16:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ".blogspot" is not Wiki acceptable sourcing. Non reliable, non-independent. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  They are in Persian and I can't translate them. Not that the language of the source is important only the reliablity and coverage given to the subject. These blogs are not considered reliable per WP:blog — Iadmc♫^talk  20:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or Draftify I am open to draftify, but article is a mess. Needs a proper re-write and submittion if kept. The tone is very bias. As per WP:POLITICIAN: Subject must have "received significant press coverage". Sourcing seems to only briefly mention him, appears to lack significant coverage. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Dear @Lekkha Moun Please allow me to prove it to you. In this section, there are dozens of reliable references available. There are various news articles as well. Please pay attention to the news section. All these references are trustworthy according to Wikipedia. In the biography section, detailed information is available on the Afghan Bios website, which is specifically dedicated to politicians and important figures of Afghanistan. So, what is the issue? Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 19:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not convinced a draft would be any better: they would see all the same issues and reject it over and over. @Parwiz ahmadi the issue is the lack of significant [i.e. a large amount of and important] press coverage. Since you have the Experienced Editor award and have been here since 2017 you must understand what we are saying. Your combat sports edits are what you should concentrate on. Cheers — Iadmc♫^talk  20:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]