User talk:Elonka: Difference between revisions

Anyone looking for the latest status on the recent dispute, or wondering why on earth someone is calling me all kinds of names, the latest information is here. - Elonka 03:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone interested in reviewing my editing history, these are articles I am particularly proud of:

• Raphael Kalinowski
• German liner Kronprinz Wilhelm
• Alfred Niezychowski
• Kim Zetter

And though I didn't create it, I've been substantially expanding the article on bestselling author Dan Brown.

- Elonka 18:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• scratches head* Very odd situation indeed. I quickly went over your last 500 edits or so, and it looks ok from here. You did collide with dreamguy, but that's about it. I suppose bishonen is looking into the latter part. Terribly inconvenient this. Kim Bruning 09:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.  :) Elonka 14:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what to write here - it just seemed it was time for a title like that on your page.  :-) --TStone 21:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Yes! And, um, kittens! Chocolate ice cream! Hopefully not at the same time!  :) Elonka 21:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, something tells me you know about the other .cx site too. Damn! That one made my eyes shrivel up into dust. But it was quite fun hitting other unsuspecting people with that one. A few faces I wished I had photos of, :-)

I don't know if you follow my adventures here. Strange really, because I have no idea what it is all about. People who should be happy to know the real world seems upset. Oh well.. if you haven't followed it, then these comments must be really cryptic. Good thing that's your area :-)

(Did you notice I wrote in Rot-13 a while back? Dunno, seemed like an amusing thing to do).

Kittens! Yes, I'm a cat person. Don't have any now unfortunately, but had a bunch when I lived in Göteborg. Four. Then the 2 females got kittens, and suddenly we had twelve cats... then they all got cat fleas. Owww... it took forever! Bathing them one by one every third day for 6 weeks - there's nothing that can look as miserable as a wet cat... imagine 12 of them.. They made me feel like Hitler, Satan and Bill Gates in one person. --TStone 22:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was wondering whether there was any reason that Image:Elonka.jpg was PD only in the US? If we know it's PD worldwide, then we can use {{PD-because|..}}. — Matt Crypto 09:28, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Elonka. I'm very impressed by the cleanup work you did on the Masonic Knights Templar article. However, you should be aware that there is one or many self-described Masonic Knights Templar who will edit the article in order to support their view that there was and is Templar-Masonic connection. So you better keep watch. ;) --Loremaster 01:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up! I'll keep my "cite your references" macro handy.  ;) Elonka 01:14, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Elonka, I've started the process of resizing the Knights Templar article. I've created two new related article, History of the Knights Templar and Knights Templar legends. Could you eloquently summarize the history of the Knights Templar and post it in the Knights Templar History section. Thank you. --Loremaster 17:36, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You posted a request for an advocate on the AMA page about two weeks ago. Has that request been answered, or are you still looking for an advocate? If you are still looking for an advocate, please provide me with a summary of what the nature of the personal attacks is, and what the subject matter content was that resulted in this dispute. Either post the summary on my user talk page, Robert McClenon or email it to me. Robert McClenon 20:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See User:Elonka/DreamGuy dispute.  ;) Elonka 20:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't really answer my question. What articles were you and he edit warring on? What was he saying about you? There has been enough refactoring that it is a little hard to figure out what is going on. I will try to research the matter further. If the personal attacks resume, then please let me know immediately, and I will try to help you with an RfAr. Robert McClenon 20:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you suggest I make an article about the 27th Maine Regiment? They are notable because everybody in the regiment got Medals of Honor because they defended Washington past there expiration date voluntarily. From there should I make an article on Mark F. Wentworth-the commander of the regiment? And then an article on the 32nd Maine Regiment-also under Wentworth's command. Then last but definitly not least, an article on William Hayes Googins-a person in the 27th Maine Regiment (he's my great-great-great-grandfather)? Please respond because I know quite a bit on these topics and I have books for resources.Icelandic Hurricane 21:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that those are all great ideas, but I'd recommend concentrating on only 1 or 2 pages at a time. That'll help you to gain experience on page creation, as you learn about formatting and categorizing, which will make creation of the other pages go easier. Otherwise you'll end up having a dozen "so-so" pages which will be hard to defend all at once. It's better to go slow. For example, my first pages were Raphael Kalinowski and German liner Kronprinz Wilhelm, and then I gradually worked outward from them after they were more or less "done", branching out to August Czartoryski, Alfred Niezychowski, Maria Amparo, and so forth. Elonka 21:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I'm going to start with the 27th and William Googins.Icelandic Hurricane 21:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any other articles you suggest I make? Such as things I mentioned in writing. Please answer on my talkpage.Icelandic Hurricane 22:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why havn't you responded?Icelandic Hurricane 21:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This list should be alphabetized and only contain places that were truly associated with the Knights Templar. We could move the names of places that are only associated to the Templar through myth to the Knights Templar legends page and create a section for them there. Do you have enough knowledge in order to do this? Once this done, I think we should nominate the article to be featured. --Loremaster 23:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spiffy that you put together an article on Brian. He deserves one :)

User:Adrian/zap 04:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry about that. I'm not sure what happened there - I didn't intend to do that at all, only to change a word or two. Either I'm having a brainstorm or Wikipedia is. Restored. -- Necrothesp 10:41, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent edits on the Kryptos page have got me thinking regarding your role in the cracking of the Cyrillic Projector. As you probably know Wikipedia discourages people from editting their own page on Wikipedia (if they have one). I think probably a similar idea should be applied to topics with which one was very directly involved in, such as the cracking of the Cyrillic Projector (I think your edits to the Kryptos page have been very good, please don't stop editting the page, I'm just refering to edits which deal directly with your own involvement in the topic). If the summary of events in the link provided by 207.69.0.179 (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol302/issue5643/r-samples.dtl) is accurate then I think that the wording of the sentence by 207.69.0.179 better represented the facts then your own rewording. Let me know of your thoughts on this subject. Tnikkel 08:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had a quick read of the Stanley Dunin article, good job! No POV stood out to me. I checked the history and noticed that you created most of the article in a couple of hours, very quick work for such a technically well crafted article! Tnikkel 04:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Elonka, I'm not sure where more information can be found about Hengelmuller - I do wonder if you've spelled his name properly - shouldn't there be an umlaut over the "u"? john k 07:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My dad graduated from Campion High School in 1943. His roommate and fellow classmate was:Leo Ryan.My dad's brother also graduated from Campion High School.The Campion High School article was one of the first article I started before I open an account with Wikipedia. Okay-there was an incident involving my dad and Leo Ryan.In the mid 1960s,Leo Ryan was a member of the California State Assembly.During this time,Ryan voluntarily got himself locked in Soledad State Prison. When my father heard about this, he went and bought Johnny Cash's record,Folsom Prison Blues and sent it to Leo Ryan.I can say Leo Ryan appreciated the gift and my dad's sense of humor.Many thanks-RFD 22:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Elonka - thanks for your clarity and thoughtful rewording of entries I've come across! I would say that I'm surprised that you have time with all your various interests, but I can't keep my fingers off Wikipedia either, and it seems to be a great place for people who care about information to hang out. So, nice to see you here! JustinHall 23:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just got a book on a bunch of notable people in New Hampshire in 1986. Do you think I should make articles on some of them? Icelandic Hurricane 01:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elonka,

Just to let you know that I've noted your concerns, but I'm a bit bogged down at the moment. I tend to organise the day to day management of Wikipedia:Picture of the day (POTD) and other Wikipedia:Featured picture content. There is currently a redesign of the MainPage going on, and POTD looks like it is about to be included as a daily feature. This is tending to consume my Wiki-time at the moment. -- Solipsist 23:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you have an exchange with Hipocrite about a month ago? What was it about? He says that you need an advocate. Was it a minor thing? I see that DreamGuy is not bothering you now, but he is unpredictable. Robert McClenon 02:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A user named Davidsolomon has created the Knights Templar today article probably without reading the Talk:Knights Templar (military order) page. Should this new article be improved and intergrated in the Knights Templar series OR merged with the History of the Knights Templar article OR simply deleted? --Loremaster 21:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• thanks for your entry on John Trivers. When you have a chance, please review/rewrite the article you started, as it appears to be verbatim pulled from http://www.triversmyersmusic.com/biom/bio2.html. Thanks much! SpikeJones 04:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. My eyeball caught major similarities in phrasing/sentences from the above page alone, which is why I mentioned it. No worries. SpikeJones 13:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nominate it on AfD. Speedy deletion criteria do not apply as the content of the new article does not precisely match that of the old one. Johnleemk | Talk 09:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for fixing my attempt at starting the Wikipedian Astronomers category for anyone who uses the stargazer user box. (Posted by User:Heptapod on 23:39, April 2, 2006)

Dear Elonka, I am beginning the process to create a wikiproject for Missouri. in order to do so i'm required to show that there is a base of at least 5-10 people who would be interested in contributing to such a project. the project would serve to aid in the creation and editing of articles related to the U.S. State Missouri, its cities, counties, geography, transportation, culture, history, education, and so on. It aims to expand Wikipedia's resources on Missouri in a fair and accurate manner. Since you're stated as being a wikipedian in missouri, i wanted to see if you were interested. if you are, please add your username at Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Missouri and User:Preschooler.at.heart/Missouri. thanks for your consideration. --preschooler.at.heart my talk - contribs 15:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Thank you for the support. also, If you know any other St. Louis Wikipedians who might want to contribute, please tell them about the project. thanks. --preschooler@heart my talk - contribs 21:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Missouri is now online. please feel free to contribute, and add your name to the list of members. --preschooler@heart my talk - contribs 23:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, here's the transcript from O'Reilly's "The Factor": http://josephhall.org/dc29c322f25c1f27c5096704d9d27063/danah_on_oreilly.pdf

This document will be removed in 24 hours. -- Joebeone (Talk) 23:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind response. I just stumbled across this (which is just a tad out of date) [1]... and man, you are right about the <ref> system. There is no way I'm adding all of those, of course. I think the meat of the article needs to be beefed up, although I'm not sure I'm the one to do it (we'll see as I'm very interested in Wikipedia academically). -- Joebeone (Talk) 23:42, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Great job on the re-write! It's neat as a relatively new user to see how an article can go from being problematic to definitely more encyclopedic with some care and attention. best, -- Joebeone (Talk) 23:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I must say the anon reaction on the talk page for danah boyd has me quite embarassed... I hope it doesn't get to you too much. That's what happens I suppose when the firehose of danah's blog readership is directed at wikipedia... best, Joe -- Joebeone (Talk) 23:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

E! News said today (April 13) that the "Girls Next Door" have a cameo appearance in Scary Movie 4.User:TMC1982 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362120/

Thanks for the note. Based on the information in the article about you, you can see how I came to that conclusion. However, if you grew up in WLA, wouldn't that put you in Category:People from Los Angeles? BrownCow &#149; (how now?) 16:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll move you then. Category:People from the Greater Los Angeles Area is intended for people from around LA but not actually the city itself (Ventura County, Valenica, San Gabriel Valley, etc), although in practice it's a little fuzzy since there's a separate Category:People from the San Fernando Valley when most of the Valley is within LA city limits. BrownCow &#149; (how now?) 17:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion is that it should stay as a footnote because it is the source for a direct quote; if it was moved to an external link, the quote would have no attribution. Of course, feel free to ask for more opinions on the talk page. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would leave it as it for right now and not place undue emphasis on the fact that it's a blog. The reference, of course, should source it to the blog; if we can find a better source for the quote, then by all means an article or print source would be considered "better" than a blog. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thanks for thinking of me. :-) Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind words. Your book is looking good, but it's not available in the UK yet. Does it have anything about how to solve the codes/puzzles or is that a diffrent book of yours? Petros471 19:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw on your user page that you develop games, and you have a userbox saying you're addicted to computer & video games. I was wondering if you had a list of games you have made/helped with, or your favorites. I, too, am a gamer enthusiast, so I'm curious. --SheeEttin 18:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hi Elonka, I have a question,

the entry states that August Czartoryski was "Duke of Vista Alegre" but his mother was "Countess of Vista Alegre", how does that make sense? Could you please check again on either information and let me know? Thanks alot, greatly appreciated. Gryffindor 22:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

St John Bosco

There has been some additions to the John Bosco page saying he was a closest homosexual or pederast. This is not NPOV.

• Saint John Bosco

Do you agree?evrik 23:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This user is a member of WikiProject Saints.

evrik

Preventing an edit war on the saints

It was the established operation of the WikiProject Saints to have a section in the info box on a sample prayer. Some editors have been recently been attacking this in the individual articles.

It is my belief that prayers in a literary or historic context are NPOV. I can understand that some may consider the inclusion of a prayer to be hagiographic, but freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

There is a 3RR about to happen on a number of these articles. I am trying to be philosophical about this, but don’t want to yield the point when what is happening goes against the consensus and borders on vandalism.

It is my understanding that if an editing disagreement occurs that the status quo, in this case leaving the prayers in place, holds until it is resolved. I encourage you to comment on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Saints. I have posted my thoughts at the village pump.

--evrik 15:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with 'don't bite the newcomers' policy, I consider political correctness a folly to be destroyed, and I'll use shorter terms when applicable. Besides, this post was made in place none of those editors are likely to frequent, and they are both n00bies - moving series of pages without using talk is without a doubt a n00bie tactic. Any experienced editors would ask questions (and review discussions) and the main related page, which is the List of Polish monarchs (where Polish king redirects to). They haven't replied to my comments on their talk, neither. I'll be happy to talk to them and guide them, but currently they are n00bies. PS. To be specific: they are n00bies in terms of moving articles - the double redirect mess they created is proof enough of that. They may not be n00bies in some other wiki-regards.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 16:18, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about Jadwiga, I thought the consensus was the other way - I was confused at the noticeboard. She has been moved as per consensus.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 17:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]