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== Japanese Wikipedia == |
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The Japanese Wikipedia version of this article is undergoing a significant upheaval right now. It has leaned (according to non Japanese scholars) fringe and excessively denialist for around 10+ years now. A few weeks ago, a few users managed to make a significant rewrite more in line with the international consensus that managed to stay up for a week or two. It's since been reverted and they've been defending their version ever since, but they're a minority. |
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In the subdivision of the Massacre section called 'Nanking Safety Zone and the role of the foreigners', I request for where it says "By February 45, 1938, the [[International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone]] had forwarded to the Japanese embassy a total if 450 cases of murder, rape, and general disorder by Japanese soldiers that had been reported after the American, British, and German diplomats had returned to their embassies" to "By February 45, 1938, the [[International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone]] had forwarded to the Japanese embassy a total of 450 cases of murder, torture, rape, and general disorder by Japanese soldiers that had been reported after the American, British, and German diplomats had returned to their embassies" please. [[Special:Contributions/95.147.145.134|95.147.145.134]] ([[User talk:95.147.145.134|talk]]) 15:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:Two questions: |
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I encourage you to keep watching how they change the article in future. This has been one of the most significant pushes ever to fix the article. It'd be a shame if it doesn't stick. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 12:36, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:1) Do you mean by February 5? Because there are not 45 days in Feb. |
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:2) Does the source support the insertion of the word "torture"? [[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) 15:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}. It looks like you are requesting to add the word {{em|torture}} to that sentence. The source book describes torture, and reviews of the book describe torture,[https://www.publishersweekly.com/9780375402111] so your request has merit. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's down to one person opposing the change now; they've been desperately trying to push back against it. They just tagged everyone who edited the article since 2020 to stir up discontent lol... [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 13:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::Now they tagged everyone all the way back to the beginning of the article. This yielded one more commenter in support of reverting the article. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 08:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::It's been a week or so and nothing. I think we're good. Finally the Japanese version of this article is no longer revisionist. Millions of people have read the previous version of the article and probably believed a chunk of it; no more. Now I can sleep better at night. [[User:Toobigtokale|toobigtokale]] ([[User talk:Toobigtokale|talk]]) 09:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2024 == |
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== Second paragraph == |
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P2, "The speed of the army's advance was likely due to commanders allowing looting and rape along the way." imho requires either a citation or removal. The event itself is truly horrific, but I don't know how a link could be established between rape and the speed of a military's advance. |
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In the section called 'Approach of the Imperial Japanese Army', I request for where it says "Numerous atrocities were committed by the Japanese army advanced from Shanghai to Nanjing including but not limited to rape, arson, and murder" to "Numerous atrocities were committed by the Japanese army advanced from Shanghai to Nanjing including but not limited to rape, torture, arson, and murder". [[Special:Contributions/95.147.145.134|95.147.145.134]] ([[User talk:95.147.145.134|talk]]) 15:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}. It looks like you are requesting to add the word {{em|torture}} to that sentence. The source book describes torture, and reviews of the book describe torture,[https://www.publishersweekly.com/9780375402111] so your request has merit. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I've removed it. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 02:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Relocation of the capital to where? == |
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The article says the capital was relocated several times, but not to where. [[User:Elcalebo|Elcalebo]] ([[User talk:Elcalebo|talk]]) 23:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:The Nationalist government moved to Chungking. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 09:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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In the section called 'Matsui's reaction to the massacre', I request for where it says "On December 1937, as General [[Iwane Matsui]] began to comprehend the full extent of the rape, murder, and looting in the city, he grew increasingly dismayed" to "On December 1937, as General [[Iwane Matsui]] began to comprehend the full extent of the rape, torture, murder, and looting in the city, he grew increasingly dismayed" please. [[Special:Contributions/95.147.145.134|95.147.145.134]] ([[User talk:95.147.145.134|talk]]) 13:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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In the subdivision of the Massacre section called 'Nanking Safety Zone and the role of the foreigners', I request for where it says "By February 45, 1938, the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone had forwarded to the Japanese embassy a total if 450 cases of murder, rape, and general disorder by Japanese soldiers that had been reported after the American, British, and German diplomats had returned to their embassies" to "By February 45, 1938, the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone had forwarded to the Japanese embassy a total of 450 cases of murder, torture, rape, and general disorder by Japanese soldiers that had been reported after the American, British, and German diplomats had returned to their embassies" please. 95.147.145.134 (talk) 15:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Two questions:
- 1) Do you mean by February 5? Because there are not 45 days in Feb.
- 2) Does the source support the insertion of the word "torture"? Simonm223 (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. It looks like you are requesting to add the word torture to that sentence. The source book describes torture, and reviews of the book describe torture,[1] so your request has merit. Binksternet (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2024
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In the section called 'Approach of the Imperial Japanese Army', I request for where it says "Numerous atrocities were committed by the Japanese army advanced from Shanghai to Nanjing including but not limited to rape, arson, and murder" to "Numerous atrocities were committed by the Japanese army advanced from Shanghai to Nanjing including but not limited to rape, torture, arson, and murder". 95.147.145.134 (talk) 15:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. It looks like you are requesting to add the word torture to that sentence. The source book describes torture, and reviews of the book describe torture,[2] so your request has merit. Binksternet (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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