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:::It seems that the Nobel Foundation launched a new version of their web site between August 13 and August 15, and on that occasion also changed their opinion as to the name of the literature prize - which doesn't necessarily mean that we have to share their views... --[[User:K1812|K1812]] ([[User talk:K1812|talk]]) 07:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC) |
:::It seems that the Nobel Foundation launched a new version of their web site between August 13 and August 15, and on that occasion also changed their opinion as to the name of the literature prize - which doesn't necessarily mean that we have to share their views... --[[User:K1812|K1812]] ([[User talk:K1812|talk]]) 07:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' move because "in" is [[Swenglish]], i.e. a dictionary translation without better knowledge of normal English. (Swedish Academy's English leaves much to be desired). --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 09:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' move because "in" is [[Swenglish]], i.e. a dictionary translation without better knowledge of normal English. (Swedish Academy's English leaves much to be desired). --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 09:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC) |
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[[:Nobel Prize in Literature]] → {{no redirect|Nobel Prize for Literature}} – The "in" is [[Swenglish]], i.e. a dictionary translation without better knowledge of normal English. (Swedish Academy's English ans that of the Nobel Foundation, leave much to be desired.) Wikipedia should not endorse a translation error. See discussion also in previous section here! [[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 01:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC) |
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Malraux in Controversies section
Some piecemeal editing in this section makes it unclear what it is trying to say. Perhaps the editor can revisit this and clarify the original intent? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.117.148 (talk) 22:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Should List of Nobel laureates in Literature have links to "[year] in literature" articles for each award?
Only two editors are discussing this, so far, and we've reached an impasse. The discussion isn't very long, but more participation might help resolve the matter. The discussion is at Talk:List of Nobel laureates in Literature, "Links to national literatures and "[year] in literature"" section (sorry, apparently a direct link won't work). -- JohnWBarber (talk) 00:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Hephzibah Anderson quote
Not sure if his opinion merits inclusion in the article, but I do know the way it's presented can mislead readers:
- The journalist Hephzibah Anderson has noted that the Man Booker International Prize "is fast becoming the more significant award, appearing an ever more competent alternative to the Nobel."
without quoting what came before:
- It's in keeping with the way she lives her creative life that she should scoop not the established Man Booker Prize (only novels are eligible, though judge Claire Tomalin insisted that she be included on the 1980 shortlist for The Beggar Maid), but the newer Man Booker International. It is equally fitting that this is fast becoming the ... Ssscienccce (talk) 11:27, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Citations
I am removing the "citations needed" banner at the top of the page because most of the article has clear, verifiable citations and it just seems like the banner for the entire page is no longer necessary. I have put a few "citation needed" tags in the "Controversies about Nobel Laureate selections" section to indicate specific places where citations are still outstanding. --Arthistorygrrl (talk) 17:39, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Camus listed in opposition to Eurocentrism criticism section
I find the photo of Camus next to the section on criticisms of Eurocentrism to be rather innane, his credentials as "African-born" hardly has any bearings on what the section is discussing. A proper non-European winner should be listed if the purpose is to display a significant glass-ceiling broken in the award. 89.100.70.175 (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Placing some punctuation inside quotation marks?
Hi all. I'm curious about a grammar convention. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:LQ we should "include terminal punctuation within the quotation marks only if it was present in the original material, and otherwise place it after the closing quotation mark." There are several sentences that seem to require a period to be moved. Any objection if I make these minor edits?
- Placement after quotation marks is British practice. Sca (talk) 16:26, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Infobox width
The Latest Nobel Prize infobox seems too wide, and implies we think Dylan is more important than all the other recipients. It should be the same width as the other jpg thumbs on the right side of the page. Sca (talk) 16:26, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Wait, why are the main page and the article so vague about the 2018 controversy?
The article: On 4 May 2018, the Swedish Academy announced that following the preceding internal struggles the Nobel laureate for literature selected in 2018 will be postponed until 2019, when two laureates will be selected.[29][28] The announcement was made after several members had left or declared their intention to resign from the Academy, leaving it without a quorum for making decisions or nominating candidates for the literature prize.[95]
The main page: The 2018 Nobel Prize in Literature is postponed until 2019.
Shouldn't there be more detail about the actual controversy, that the Academy is implicated in covering up sexual crimes committed by one of their associates? As it stands, you get no explanation unless you go look it up. cnte (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree with the decision made, then. It doesn't matter if there are many reasons, the sexual assault scandal is clearly the primary one. There should be more details, probably even an entire separate article on the scandal. cnte (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- The sexual assault scandal was not the primary one, just the one that media (clearly) decied to highlight. --cart-Talk 11:44, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Article name
I believe this article needs to be renamed as Nobel Prize for Literaure given that:
- the "for" title is used by the the English language website of the Nobel Foundation,
- is significantly more commonly used per Google Ngrams results
Any objections? Abecedare (talk) 05:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- The Nobel Foundation as well as the Swedish Academy call the prize the Nobel Prize in Literature on their web sites. --K1812 (talk) 23:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- Aha. I see that the Nobel Foundation itself uses both variants on its website, e.g., in, for. Given that, I don't think this is a worthwhile move to debate since it makes little practical difference to the reader; so I'll withdraw my motion. Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- It seems that the Nobel Foundation launched a new version of their web site between August 13 and August 15, and on that occasion also changed their opinion as to the name of the literature prize - which doesn't necessarily mean that we have to share their views... --K1812 (talk) 07:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Aha. I see that the Nobel Foundation itself uses both variants on its website, e.g., in, for. Given that, I don't think this is a worthwhile move to debate since it makes little practical difference to the reader; so I'll withdraw my motion. Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- Support move because "in" is Swenglish, i.e. a dictionary translation without better knowledge of normal English. (Swedish Academy's English leaves much to be desired). --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 13 September 2018
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Nobel Prize in Literature → Nobel Prize for Literature – The "in" is Swenglish, i.e. a dictionary translation without better knowledge of normal English. (Swedish Academy's English ans that of the Nobel Foundation, leave much to be desired.) Wikipedia should not endorse a translation error. See discussion also in previous section here! SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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