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Agree. If Angelinos were to do this, it would make us look uneducated and superficial, which is the general stereotype anyway.
That happens all the time, nationally and that is why. Far too often those at the coasts generalize about the Midwest and mistakenly include most of the country between new York and ca in that massive land mass.
Its perfectly excusable for a foreigner to have no intimate understanding of a city, especially if what you are complaining pales in comparison to other us cities, like with architecture. Dont feel bad, Chicago is also known for guns and gangsters internationally.
Why so offended. Most Californians I know couldn't find and name most of the Midwestern states, much less cities on a map...and you are offended by your cities reputation internationally in the realm of architecture? Please. Atlesdt la has an international reputation....but it really can't claim all the best of everything nationally, sorry.
That happens all the time, nationally and that is why. Far too often those at the coasts generalize about the Midwest and mistakenly include most of the country between new York and ca in that massive land mass.
Its perfectly excusable for a foreigner to have no intimate understanding of a city, especially if what you are complaining pales in comparison to other us cities, like with architecture. Dont feel bad, Chicago is also known for guns and gangsters internationally.
Why so offended. Most Californians I know couldn't find and name most of the Midwestern states, much less cities on a map...and you are offended by your cities reputation internationally in the realm of architecture? Please. Atlesdt la has an international reputation....but it really can't claim all the best of everything nationally, sorry.
That doesn't even follow in the context of this discussion. Just completely random.
There's many things of which I have little knowledge or interest, which usually discourages me from offering inane opinions, and from characterizing other people as ignorant in general. Every person is ignorant of many things. But self-awareness and a shred of humility prevent a healthy individual from wearing that ignorance like a teal, double-breasted, pin-striped suit on Derby Day.
That doesn't even follow in the context of this discussion. Just completely random.
There's many things of which I have little knowledge or interest, which usually discourages me from offering inane opinions, and from characterizing other people as ignorant in general. Every person is ignorant of many things. But self-awareness and a shred of humility prevent a healthy individual from wearing that ignorance like a teal, double-breasted, pin-striped suit on Derby Day.
I have no other guess as to why the people here are attacking me for a well known perception that even the experts in LA understand and admit.
It just is, and yeah there is some validity to it. I never said there were no good architects or cool buildings in LA. I said it can't compete with Chicago in the scale of both its influence on the rest of the world in both architecture and city planning. Sorry, it doesn't.
Not yet.
And perception takes a much longer time to form. You would hear constantly about the architecture of Chicago, its known around the world. Its not the way people talk about LA.
And there is pretty good evidence for why. I dont feel I should need to post it all here. Its obvious to the most casual of observers.... Unless they are so CA centric they just don't know better.
I defend CA cities all the time. But this board is batty.
That doesn't even follow in the context of this discussion. Just completely random.
There's many things of which I have little knowledge or interest, which usually discourages me from offering inane opinions, and from characterizing other people as ignorant in general. Every person is ignorant of many things. But self-awareness and a shred of humility prevent a healthy individual from wearing that ignorance like a teal, double-breasted, pin-striped suit on Derby Day.
"There is no shame in admitting you do not know something. The real shame is pretending to know everything."
I have no other guess as to why the people here are attacking me for a well known perception that even the experts in LA understand and admit.
It just is, and yeah there is some validity to it. I never said there were no good architects or cool buildings in LA. I said it can't compete with Chicago in the scale of both its influence on the rest of the world in both architecture and city planning. Sorry, it doesn't.
Not yet.
And perception takes a much longer time to form. You would hear constantly about the architecture of Chicago, its known around the world. Its not the way people talk about LA.
And there is pretty good evidence for why. I dont feel I should need to post it all here. Its obvious to the most casual of observers.... Unless they are so CA centric they just don't know better.
I defend CA cities all the time. But this board is batty.
You are not being attacked. You've soiled yourself and we're just pointing and laughing.
You stated all you knew about architecture in Los Angeles was Frank Lloyd Wright, that you "couldn’t think of any interesting buildings" AFTER you castigated others without for their ignorance. What kind of person does this? Maybe somebody who creates an internet persona only to lie about where he/lives?
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I'm from Chicago and now live in Southern California.
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I have been to LA a number of times but can't think of any impressive buildings. About the only thing that comes to mind is maybe Griffith Observatory? Getty Center? the Hollywood Sign? (Iconic maybe, but not exactly a work of art or architecture)
Chicago specializes in Mexican and some other types of Latin cuisine too, though LA moreso. I would say the Latin food is more than "pretty good" in Chicago
Then again, how many people internationally associate Chicago with excellent Mexican food? Therefore it doesn't exist, you must be some hipster all proud of your new discovery, you're clearly not grasping the point of this thread, I should expect as much from a Chicagoan, and "gimme a break." Kidding, of course.
Then again, how many people internationally associate Chicago with excellent Mexican food? Therefore it doesn't exist, you must be some hipster all proud of your new discovery, you're clearly not grasping the point of this thread, I should expect as much from a Chicagoan, and "gimme a break." Kidding, of course.
Internationally? I don't know - I never said Chicago was better at Mexican food than LA. There's 600,000 Mexicans in the city of Chicago alone and another 500,000-600,000 in the suburbs. For the city, it's the 4th largest concentration of Mexican Americans of any city after Los Angeles (1.2 million), San Antonio (700K), and Houston (675K). There's great Mexican food in Chicago, trust me. This is not some hipster new discovery thing.
While I definitely don't think you are trying to bring LA down, I too disagree that Chicago has more architectural styles than Los Angeles. In fact I don't think it is all that close as LA has had huge population booms every decade for the last 120 years or so, and with each couple of decades comes new architectural styles and standards.
In my opinion the cities are about on the same level when it comes to "good" architecture. However Los Angeles has a lot more "bad" / tear down / disposable architecture, and that is a large reason LA's neighborhoods are less "through and through" attractive than Chicago's more complete neighborhoods.
I find this Miracle Mile neighborhood quite attractive. Most of the streets are closely packed SFHs, though the adjacent parallel streets have larger duplexes and apartment buildings, in a similar architectural style to the SFH's on other streets. The neighborhood is surrounded by the commercial corridors of 3rd, San Vincente, Fairfax and Wilshire.
I also think my neighborhood in Pasadena (either South Lake District or Playhouse District, but general speaking downtown Pasadena) is pretty attractive. It's basically a bunch of Mid-Century apartment buildings mixed with Craftsmen SFHs, surrounded by the walkable commercial corridors of Lake, Colorado / Green and Los Robles (with Old Town Pasadena about a mile to the northwest..
And while I found my old neighborhood in Hollywood (Yucca Street and Wilcox Ave aka Yucca Corridor) to be full of architectural gems (as well as some stucco monstrosities), I don't think it fits what would be considered an attractive neighborhood on this board.
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