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MediaWiki:Rightslogtext[edit]

Is it possible to translate this system message? (something like MediaWiki:Rightslogtext/zh for Chinese users, for example) —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 07:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh I see the subpage now (not in the info, quite confusing), it is indeed possible, lol. So how could I edit the content of the translation page? —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 07:15, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can create an edit request at MediaWiki talk:Rightslogtext/zh. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ericliu1912 If needed, leave me a message on my talkpage and I will help to copy over the translation. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 06:55, 21 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done the translation per request, pending copy-edit and then it will be transferred over. Seems section resolved. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 07:08, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I ask for additional grants for an existing oauth consumer?[edit]

I want to ask for new grants here

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/41c540d87926d735ef597a0466ed63c3

I want to ask for page creation, as file upload also needs page creation grants. (As "documented" here - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69679174/which-permissions-are-needed-to-upload-files-with-mediawiki-api ) Running (talk) 12:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well I added a new version here

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/730d8ec6b55620dbf3d7090ca45146c6

That should work Running (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's pretty much how, we don't have a way of modifying consumers currently. Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:17, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements[edit]

Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on 26 July 2022 at 12:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC on Zoom. Click here to join. Meeting ID: 5304280674. Dial by your location.

Read more. See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 16:19, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trying to find research project that crowd sourced non-Editors to cross check a page edit/notability[edit]

HI, I am looking for a research project that crowd sourced non-Editors as a cross check so that. It wasn't a hot or not, but a choice was made. I am interested because it could be extended to get non-editors involved in editing tasks (spelling, grammar, stub reference selection) without knowing the full details of editing and WIkipeia exotica. Wakelamp (talk) 07:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vote for Election Compass Statements[edit]

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Hi all,

Volunteers in the 2022 Board of Trustees election are invited to vote for statements to use in the Election Compass. You can vote for the statements you would like to see included in the Election Compass on Meta-wiki.

An Election Compass is a tool to help voters select the candidates that best align with their beliefs and views. The community members will propose statements for the candidates to answer using a Lickert scale (agree/neutral/disagree). The candidates’ answers to the statements will be loaded into the Election Compass tool. Voters will use the tool by entering in their answer to the statements (agree/disagree/neutral). The results will show the candidates that best align with the voter’s beliefs and views.

Here is the timeline for the Election Compass:

• July 8 - 20: Volunteers propose statements for the Election Compass
• July 21 - 22: Elections Committee reviews statements for clarity and removes off-topic statements
• July 23 - August 3: Volunteers vote on the statements
• August 4 - 5: Elections Committee selects the top 15 statements
• August 5 - 12: candidates align themselves with the statements
• August 15: The Election Compass opens for voters to use to help guide their voting decision

The Elections Committee will select the top 15 statements at the beginning of August

Best,

Movement Strategy and Governance

This message was sent on behalf of the Board Selection Task Force and the Elections Committee

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 21:22, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ready for translation: Education Newsletter July 2022[edit]

July 2022 education newsletter released for translation. Please help our readers to read education newsletter in their native language. The latest education newsletter is ready for translation: here Newsletter headlines link for translation: here (please translate by August 03, 2022) Individual articles for translation: Category:Education/Newsletter/July 2022. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 17:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Special:WikiSets[edit]

Just wondering, since there's only three sets left as for now (2, 7, 12), what content was in the rest of the sets, and what happened to them? —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 08:22, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are you expecting stewards to run a lookup service for your curiosity? I think that is a bit of a tall order. Check the deletion logs would be the best way to get an answer for yourself. If you believe that the stewards should be keeping a register of wikisets, then please start a conversation with the stewards, the topic is not really pertinent to here.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:57, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Some clues can be found in the Wiki Set Log

1. Created as a test in 2008
2. The existing "global bot wikis" set
3. Created as a test in 2008
4. Created as a test in 2008.
5. Created as a test in 2008. I can't find where any of these early tests were eventually deleted, maybe wiki set deletions weren't logged at the time?
6. Created as "Emergency flagged bot revision group" in June 2009 following an (unspecified) emergency. Repurposed at "Importupload" in September 2009, with no explanation. Repurposed again as "Arbcom_dewiki" on June 1, 2011 per request (but I can't find the request). Finally deleted as a deprecated group on June 18, 2011
7. The existing "global sysop wikis" set.
8. "Indic sysop wikis", created in 2010 as an [e]xample wikiset for RFC and potential future use. The RfC in question is Requests for comment/Indic Sysop. Renamed to "Indic Wikis" in 2011, and deleted as unused in 2013.
9. "Huggle wikis", created in 2011 as potential future use, maybe, and then deleted as unused in 2015.
10. "GR Opt-out wikis", created in 2011 following requests coming in to be opted out of GRs, and then deleted one day later. It appears the current logic about reusing wiki set numbers did not exist back then.
11. "CUlog", created as an apparent test in 2011 along with a CULogView group and deleted by the same user as unused in 2013. I can find no relevant discussions explaining what this is.
12. The "All existing wikis" set, used for New wiki importers
13. At various times a 13th wikiset has been created as a test and immediately deleted. This appears to free up the number for later wiki sets.
14. At one point in 2012, there were two test wikisets at the same time, so one got numbered "14"

* Pppery * _{it has begun} 17:03, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"Minor" project's Village Pumps are completely bloated with mass messages, leaving no room for project discussion[edit]

A comparison between the bloat of mass messages and actual project discussions.

I have the feeling that this is incrementally worse. Every team wants every message to be delivered to every project's chat. This mass messages creates 0 engagement, and it's causing actual discussions to be buried. Any thoughts? Ignacio Rodríguez (talk) 15:28, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ignacio Rodríguez projects can direct those things elsewhere if they want. They are almost always delivered to a list, so a project can make a special pump for "annoucements", or redirect things like technical notices to a technical pump (like how these 74 projects have a technical pump: wikidata:Q4582194). — xaosflux ^Talk 15:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not every community, specially the smaller ones, has the knowledge or time to make those adjustments. There must be a better way instead of mindlessly flooding every pump with bloat Ignacio Rodríguez (talk) 16:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm sensitive to this concern: in my previous role as a Movement Strategy and Governance (MSG) facilitator, I sent out a fair number of these mass messages to the places listed at Distribution list/Global message delivery. I noticed they did tend to pile up on the venues, and did fear this might discourage local users from creating other threads (or drown out threads) specific to those projects with sheer volume. I'm wondering how you've reached the conclusion that they create zero engagement though. How can you be sure no one is reading, clicking through, engaging here on Meta-Wiki, signing up for the events, voting on the topics, etc.? As a counter-point: most of the messages sent by MSG invite readers with a link to translate the original message into their language ({{int:please-translate}}), and there are a non-zero number of additional translations later submitted as a result. To me, this is at least a minor indicator that engagement is being generated, even if there's not many responses made directly on the village pumps. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm sorry if I offended you. The 0 part is definitively an exaggeration. What I meant is that the "project village pump" purpose is to discuss issues pertaining the project, and the mass messages doesn't (mostly) contribute to that. Ignacio Rodríguez (talk) 15:31, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No offense taken! I'm glad that folks are thinking about this. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 19:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have become concerned about this as well (as I have found entire small projects missing from GMD and have been adding them). However I don't have any easy answers to offer. Certain things like elections and major policy changes need to be sent out. Perhaps we need to encourage more selective use of the GMD function, as well as some automated archiving of old messages. (Also see phab:T313672 which I suspect is related). --Rschen7754 18:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]