Dear all,
Since Tuesday I’ve started the upload of around 8000 pictures of amoeba, everything was going smoothly until yesterday afternoon.
It seems that at a moment we have saturated our own server with too many parallel request and the GWToolset start facing "HTTP request timed out » , as you can see in the GWToolset log https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=gwtoolset <https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=gwtoolset> it the same story since yesterday around 5PM.
I’ve asked our CIO, and he told me that indeed GWToolset is using the whole bandwidth of our server :-(
Now I don’t know what to do? is there a moment GWToolset will stop doing request to the WMCH server? should we restart our server?
incidentally , the account used for setting the batch upload receive now several « Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.0.6.41) «
Do you think it’s related, I saw that someone already mentionned this error while using GWToolset.
Thanks to all for your help.
Cheers
Charles
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Hi all, I could use some advice on a problem I'm having with prepping an
upload...
My batch of images contain descriptions written in a half-dozen languages,
so I need to have different language tags for them. However, only SOME of
the files have that metadata included (other times it's just blank so I
can't help that).
My metadata has these two elements, for example:
<description> lorem ipsum </description>
<language> en </language>
And, if I understand the documentation correctly, I need for it to be
formatted in this way if I want to get the GWT to automatically wrap the
language template:
<description lang='en'> lorem ipsum </description>
Question 1: Is that correct that I need to merge these two metadata fields
in that way? Or, am I able to leave them as they currently are (that would
be ideal!)
Question 2: If I DO have to merge them, how can I merge these two fields
when only SOME of the records have a <language> tag at all? (recalling that
I can't add the same tag to all the records because they're in multiple
different languages).
I hope this makes sense...
Sincerely,
-Liam
wittylama.com
Peace, love & metadata
Thanks Fae! So it looks like there's no way of designating the language of say an artwork title as "Romanised Chinese, Pinyin System" and "Romanised Japanese, Modified Hepburn" is that correct? I suppose I could simply state those additional titles as a separate field, maybe called "Romanised Title", or within the notes and not worry about using a template for those.
Best,
Nora
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:27:38 +0100
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Hi Folks,
James is correct, there are two ways to import existing Ground Control Points. The first is in CSV format for imported maps which has to be run by a server admin - ideally this should be exposed as part of the user interface. This can handle multiple maps and multiple points at once.
The second is doing it by hand via the user interface - a user can paste in coordinates manually, so that would be the easiest and quickest way for individual maps. In the control panel, click "control points" link and then the "add control point manually" button, and paste in the coordinates.
Regarding projections - for many old maps these cannot be used accurately, because paper stretches, the lens on the camera may distort things, the map may have folds or be made of several images, or it may be inaccurately surveyed. In theory it could be possible to reverse engineer the original projection based on the solution of the control points - that could be a fun exercise for someone to do even though it would have no utility for the warper.
Regards,
Tim
On 27 April 2015 at 12:48, Rob H Warren <warren(a)muninn-project.org> wrote:
>
> Mapwarper could do so without too much trouble (Tim?); it is unlikely
> that the projection can be estimated since an algorithm could not
> differentiate between error and projection fit. -rhw
>
> > On Apr 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > There is a slot for that in the Commons {{map}} description template
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Map
> >
> > using the field "projection",
> >
> > with a handful of values that have internationalisations defined at
> >
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:I18n/map_projection
> >
> > But it's not clear whether/how the template should store relevant
> parameters.
> >
> > I'm not sure whether the information can be used as a baseline by
> MapWarper yet. (Tim ?). Or whether there are good scripts available
> to estimate a projection, given georeferencing points.
> >
> > -- J.
> >
> > On 25/04/2015 13:06, Rob H Warren wrote:
> >> If we are going to go through the trouble of storing
> >> geo-referencing
> data, we would be silly not to add original projection type when known.
> There are a few specs on github for ideas. -rhw
> >>
> >>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:28 PM, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> MG_1773.jpg,12,23,11.2,32.2
> >>> IMG_1773.jpg,12,23,10.2,31.1
> >>>
> >>> from which there is script that an admin can use to add the data
> >>> to
> the map-warper.
> >>>
> >>> This doesn't capture all of the data stored by Klokan
> >>> Georeferencer --
> eg the useful information as to what layer the image was georeferenced
> against -- but is enough to get the geo-referencing data into the
> system, and to then get it out in various formats, including serving
> georeferenced tiles.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry if it's all still a little bit round-the-houses; but with
> >>> luck
> everything should get a bit more streamlined, as we get more geared up
> for large scale import.
> >>>
> >>> (There are already a couple of thousand images on Commons with
> >>> links
> to external georeferencing, either at NYPL or the British Library;
> plus ready to be uploaded to Commons a further 6,000 georeferenced map
> images from the BL Mechanical Curator collection, just as soon as I've
> got auto-categorisation a bit more worked out, with that number
> currently increasing by approximately a further 100 georeferenced
> images a day
> >>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:British_Library/Mechanical_
> Curator_collection/georeferencing_done
> ).
> >>>
> >>> As far as I know, nobody has yet actually used the script to
> >>> import
> pre-existing georeferencing onto the warper.wmflabs.org server, so I'm
> quite interested to see how you get on!
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> James.
> >>
> >>
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If we are going to go through the trouble of storing geo-referencing data, we would be silly not to add original projection type when known. There are a few specs on github for ideas. -rhw
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:28 PM, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> MG_1773.jpg,12,23,11.2,32.2
> IMG_1773.jpg,12,23,10.2,31.1
>
> from which there is script that an admin can use to add the data to the map-warper.
>
> This doesn't capture all of the data stored by Klokan Georeferencer -- eg the useful information as to what layer the image was georeferenced against -- but is enough to get the geo-referencing data into the system, and to then get it out in various formats, including serving georeferenced tiles.
>
>
> Sorry if it's all still a little bit round-the-houses; but with luck everything should get a bit more streamlined, as we get more geared up for large scale import.
>
> (There are already a couple of thousand images on Commons with links
> to external georeferencing, either at NYPL or the British Library; plus ready to be uploaded to Commons a further 6,000 georeferenced map images from the BL Mechanical Curator collection, just as soon as I've got auto-categorisation a bit more worked out, with that number currently increasing by approximately a further 100 georeferenced images a day https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:British_Library/Mechanical_Curat… ).
>
> As far as I know, nobody has yet actually used the script to import pre-existing georeferencing onto the warper.wmflabs.org server, so I'm quite interested to see how you get on!
>
> Best regards,
>
> James.
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Mapwarper could do so without too much trouble (Tim?); it is unlikely that the projection can be estimated since an algorithm could not differentiate between error and projection fit. -rhw
> On Apr 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> There is a slot for that in the Commons {{map}} description template
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Map
>
> using the field "projection",
>
> with a handful of values that have internationalisations defined at
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:I18n/map_projection
>
> But it's not clear whether/how the template should store relevant parameters.
>
> I'm not sure whether the information can be used as a baseline by MapWarper yet. (Tim ?). Or whether there are good scripts available to estimate a projection, given georeferencing points.
>
> -- J.
>
> On 25/04/2015 13:06, Rob H Warren wrote:
>> If we are going to go through the trouble of storing geo-referencing
>> data, we would be silly not to add original projection type when
>> known. There are a few specs on github for ideas. -rhw
>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:28 PM, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> MG_1773.jpg,12,23,11.2,32.2
>>> IMG_1773.jpg,12,23,10.2,31.1
>>>
>>> from which there is script that an admin can use to add the data to the map-warper.
>>>
>>> This doesn't capture all of the data stored by Klokan Georeferencer -- eg the useful information as to what layer the image was georeferenced against -- but is enough to get the geo-referencing data into the system, and to then get it out in various formats, including serving georeferenced tiles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if it's all still a little bit round-the-houses; but with luck everything should get a bit more streamlined, as we get more geared up for large scale import.
>>>
>>> (There are already a couple of thousand images on Commons with links
>>> to external georeferencing, either at NYPL or the British Library; plus ready to be uploaded to Commons a further 6,000 georeferenced map images from the BL Mechanical Curator collection, just as soon as I've got auto-categorisation a bit more worked out, with that number currently increasing by approximately a further 100 georeferenced images a day https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:British_Library/Mechanical_Curat… ).
>>>
>>> As far as I know, nobody has yet actually used the script to import pre-existing georeferencing onto the warper.wmflabs.org server, so I'm quite interested to see how you get on!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> James.
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 15:44:30 +0100
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Hi Nora,
The Commons language policy can be found at < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Language_policy>. To put any language in an artwork or information template, you just add a template around the text like {{en|1=<your text>}} for english or {{zh|1=<your
text>}} for chinese. The language templates are listed with more
explanation at <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Language_templates
>
As an example, here's one in a mass upload of mine from the World Digital Library < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_Comprehensive_Calendar_Arranged_by…
> it displays in 7 languages, you should be able to toggle between them
unless your settings are to display all languages at the same time.
Cheers,
Fae
On 20 May 2015 at 13:40, McGregor, Nora <Nora.McGregor(a)bl.uk> wrote:
> Hiya! Just introducing myself to the list as I suspect I’ll have lots
> of questions for you over the course of trying to learn the GWToolset!
> Ally Crockford, James Heald and Jonathan Cardy were very helpful last
> week in getting us up to speed over at British Library.
>
>
>
> I’m currently working on getting this collection up so you may see
> lots of tests on the Beta Site around that
> http://www.jacar.go.jp/english/jacarbl-fsjwar-e/gallery/index.html.
>
>
>
> I’ve just about got my xml file crafted but want to add in the right
> language templates and am having a bit of trouble finding the right ones.
> Please see the metadata attached.
>
>
>
> *Images created in Japan*
>
> English (en)
>
> Japanese (ja)
>
> Romanised Japanese (?)
>
>
>
> *Images created in China*
> Chinese (?)
> English (en)
>
> Romanised Chinese, Specifically Pinyin (?)
>
> Japanised (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanization)/ Translation of
> the Chinese into Japanese (?) I thought I could use ja for this though
> the curator pointed out that strictly speaking it’s not Japanese…?
> Seeking further clarification from them but thought I’d throw it in
> there in the meantime!
>
>
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Hiya! Just introducing myself to the list as I suspect I’ll have lots of questions for you over the course of trying to learn the GWToolset! Ally Crockford, James Heald and Jonathan Cardy were very helpful last week in getting us up to speed over at British Library.
I’m currently working on getting this collection up so you may see lots of tests on the Beta Site around that http://www.jacar.go.jp/english/jacarbl-fsjwar-e/gallery/index.html.
I’ve just about got my xml file crafted but want to add in the right language templates and am having a bit of trouble finding the right ones. Please see the metadata attached.
Images created in Japan
English (en)
Japanese (ja)
Romanised Japanese (?)
Images created in China
Chinese (?)
English (en)
Romanised Chinese, Specifically Pinyin (?)
Japanised (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanization)/ Translation of the Chinese into Japanese (?) I thought I could use ja for this though the curator pointed out that strictly speaking it’s not Japanese…? Seeking further clarification from them but thought I’d throw it in there in the meantime!
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Good afternoon,
Thank you for this feedback about your feelings and the lack of
documentation of the process.
I raised independently with Steinsplitter on the IRC channel
#wikimedia-commons the issue of documentation two days ago and
subscribe to the Fae, Bawollf comments.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMwiki_Toolset#Instructions
now contains the information we need, and when we usually process
these requests.
I can confirm if the request would have immediately stated at creation
time this were intended for a GLAM workshop, I would have processed it
the same evening.
If you wish to know how we handle these (at least how I handle these),
I'm giving some indication about the workflow. As indicated by
Bawollf, our priority is to ensure the request is a legitimate one and
is not controversial.
As far as I'm concerned, the Wikimedia Commons community is the one
qualified for any configuration change related to Commons, and has
made implicitly clear they trust both GLAM institutions and
experienced, trusted users in good standing with the community to
make whitelist requests. This is so a simplified and straightforward
process, any other change requiring a formal consensus on the wiki.
The community has also made more or less clear they only want to
whitelist public domain sources.
So, my first step is to ensure the request is from a GLAM institute or
a trusted Commons user.
When I see a request from a trusted Commons users, I process it
immediately without any further question. So, despite they thought
they couldn't do anything, if they've added a comment in the bug "I'm
... and I endorse this request", it would have been useful as this
endorsement is a green light. As would have been useful any comment it
were from a GLAM institute.
If this information is missing, as it were here the case, I ask on IRC
on both #wikimedia-commons and #wikipedia-fr (this channel has several
very active trusted Commons users, not always reactive on the first)
if someone could endorse the request. IRC is one of our main way to
communicate for development and operations stuff.
If someone endorses the request, I state so and plan it for
deployment. If nobody answers or has reticence, I state so in the
ticket and wait for more feedback (for example, the remark about the
resolution of files came from a trusted Commons user).
Generally, the reply from Commons administrators contains opinion
about their own assertion of the copyright status of the files, in
accordance with community practices. I also state this opinion in the
bug.
To conclude, our main priority is to ensure our config changes reflect
the willingness of the community, which means for whitelist: (i) it
comes from a legit requester (GLAM partner or experienced trusted
Commons user) (ii) metadata contains enough information to assert
copyright status.
Please note this is generalised to any task or bug tracker: the more
context and information you give, the more elements the person reading
your task will have to be able to understand and act upon.
Disclaimer: this reply is made in my quality of Wikimedia volunteer
handling site requests. It occurs I'm also administrator on Wikimedia
Commons, but this is not in this quality I handle such request or give
this opinion. The only advantage I have on this matter as Wikimedia
Commons administrator is to be able to immediately after deployment
test if the upload by URL works.
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Hi all
Training is progressing well here at the BL, and there are several curators
with XML files who would like to test uploads on Beta but are still waiting
to have the requested domains whitelisted.
The requests have been logged on Phabricator - I was wondering if there's
anyone on the list and currently awake/available to approve the
whitelisting?
Cheers,
Ally
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Sorry for the email overload - during training I just encountered the same
upload error logged on beta on live commons - my XML file was denied for
being too large even though it's a 7kb five-record file. However, a few
minutes later it previewed the batch as normal. Just wondering if I should
be concerned about access for tomorrow?
Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers,
Ally
Hi again,
Can I request beta user rights for the following usernames:
Drjwbaker (should now have a beta account)
ldenoon (that's an L)
Jheald
ndalyrose
Thanks,
Ally
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Hello,
Can one of you kind people give me access to the GWToolset. Uploading at
the British Library...
(Jean-Fred kindly gave me access before, but it seems to have lapsed)
Thanks
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over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*