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Seagate launches 60TB SSD, world's highest capacity solid state drive

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At the Flash Memory Summit conference Seagate has today announced a 60TB solid-state-drive (SSD), the largest capacity SSD at this point in time. Seagate say the driver has four times the capacity and twice the density of the next largest competing unit and could store approximately 12,000 DVD-quality movies or 400 million photos.

Thanks to its enterprise HDD 3.5-inch form factor, swapping out and connecting drives is very easy, increasing data accessibility in data centers that have to estimate short term versus long term data accessibility and storage needs. And thanks to its flexible architecture, it also provides a way for data centers to easily grow from the current 60TB capacity to 100TB of data or more in the future, using the same form factor. 

The bad news is that the Seagate 60TB SSD is currently only available for demonstration purposes and will only make its debut some time in 2017. So you'll have to look for an intermediate solution if you current image storage is running out of capacity. Seagate has not given any information on pricing yet but says the drive will represent the lowest current cost per GB for flash memory once it is available. 

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tabloid

I see that you can get a LaCie 6TB Desktop Hard Drive with thunderbolt and USB 3.0 for about £300 ($450 US ?).

Would love that as a SSD.

Give it another year, and everything will be SSD.

I remember those mini hard drive for digital cameras....
Those were the days my friend (thankfully gone).
Roll on SSD.

2 min ago
rialcnis

When it is available for 129.95 it will mean true holographic storage is around the corner.

13 hours ago
maxnimo

I'd like to see a storage medium that addresses reliability and long-term data retention so I won't have to always remember to make multiple backups of backups, and worry if it can still be read 10 years from now.

16 hours ago
cgarrard
cgarrard

Nothing can stop degradation, its a natural law ;).

5 hours ago
Mssimo
Mssimo

Does it work in a raid 5 config?

16 hours ago
FLruckas

I'm sure this would work in a raid 5.

But it would be better if it were raid 1 where the 2nd drive is spinning raid 5 array.

This assumes you don't want to spend the money on multiple copies of this 60TB ssd.

You'd only need 7 of their 10TB hdds to mirror this ssd. And the street price of the 10TB is $450 or less.

15 hours ago
graybalanced

In more immediate news, 2TB SSDs can now be found for under $600 on a good day, or just above $600 on most days. Which is awesome considering they were $1000 not long ago.

16 hours ago
Fujica

True, but the problem is 2TB is not much when you have a large photo catalogue.

I am currently on 8TB - You still need at least two systems for redundancy so that is 16TB in total. For my system it would mean 8 x 600 = 4200 dollars.

On good days you can get a 4TB WD RED for $150 = 600 dollars for 16TB.

Which is the price of one 2TB SSD

2 hours ago*
dbo
dbo

This 60TB is made to show what's possible, and will be price wise in the area where the use case is worth the (in our eyes) likely insane price level.
And it maybe helps to further lower the price of "our" SSDs in the area of 500GB to 4TB.

SSDs with such density will be needed for the upcoming 8k broadcasting.

16 hours ago
skanter
skanter

I bought a 9G HD in the 90's (for video editing) for $4500.

17 hours ago
MariusM

Couple of these and you might be able to back up your brain.

17 hours ago
Rob Neill

In my case, I can do that using the 32GB SD card from my camera...

4 hours ago
JordanAT
JordanAT

Gosh, this would be perfect. I could not only store all of my images and media in one place, but it would have enough for both live backup AND be able to take the place of my two offsite backups all in one place!!

(I'm kidding)

18 hours ago
falconeyes
falconeyes

This is a test of feasibility (only).

Server farms will use what is most cost-effective, including power consumption, I concede. Large RAID arrays with 6-10TB HDDs have all the bandwidth. And the storage density is 1/6th.

As of today, server farms need a certain amount of CPU power and IO bandwidth to make use of the data, like searching thru it or serving requests over the network. Therefore, beyond some point, shrinking the storage doesn't make the computing center shrink.

Which means that cost/TB still is the driving force.
Which today is about $30 for HDD vs. about $300 for SSD.

1:6 in volume vs. 10:1 in price.

Still a long way to go for SSD technology to be adopted in server farms.

BTW, at $300/TB, this SSD would be $18,000. I guess it will sell for like $9,900 in 2017.

That's much more interesting for field recording (RAID1) than for server farms!

At 986 MByte/s (uncompressed 60fps 4.5k REDCODE RAW), the 60TB are good for 17h of movie or one working day. Perfect ;)

18 hours ago*
Daryl Cheshire

I don't trust RAID, I had a motherboard die with on board RAID controller.
Also RAID cards can fail or have driver issues.
A single disk drive can still be accessable from another computer.
Yes backup, but still a PITA if a boot disk.

14 hours ago
FLruckas

If you knew RAID you would know that the raid structure is on the disk and the disks could have been moved to another raid controller, imported, and you'd have been back online.

Someone implementing this 60TB drive wouldn't use mother board RAID anyway!

I never use motherboard RAID. Only 3rd party raid controllers.

13 hours ago
paper4482

You're somewhat wrong about SSD not being used in server farms, in Enterprise storage they are; *most* of my retail sales customers use SSD based database platforms to speed up searches, remember, where the value of performance is more critical than just the cost/TB SSD is still the best option.

10 hours ago
falconeyes
falconeyes

I agree with the database use case. Actually, the current trend goes beyond that (in-memory databases). However, that's not what I would consider a server farm scenario. That's more the enterprise data center use case with a few mission-critical applications.

9 hours ago
TomasCZ72

You would be surprised how many SSD drives are already used in the server farms. The HDD coupled with SSD make a perfect pair to address speed, reliability and cost per byte in the same time. The objective is not replace HDDs with SSDs in a short or medium term, perhaps not in the next two decades.... That is not aim of SSD suppliers either. They are very smart. They know the customer will pay for the top class latest technology. No point to flood the market with lower capacity cheap SSDs. They always bring the new ones and pull the lower capacities out of the market.

2 min ago
sh10453
sh10453

Obviously this is not intended for consumers.
The amount of data is beyond huge, and redundancy/backup/RAID is a must for such data.
Therefore, it is not affordable, or even a wise approach for consumers unless they can afford 2 of them in their server.

The 2TB SSD is becoming relatively affordable (but is still expensive at around $500, (which is what I had paid for a 500MB drive back in mid 90s), and probably many consumers can afford to chain a number of these, including redundancy, in an external configuration.
Ten of those in a RAID configuration (5 for storage, and 5 synchronized for backup) would cost about $5,000 (plus some pocket change for enclosure, etc.).
This is not much for someone who makes a living out of photography, but may not be affordable, or justified by many hobbyists.

18 hours ago
Edac2
Edac2

However large the drive is, you'll want to buy two so you can use the second one as a backup. And it would probably take days to backup 60TB, if the drive doesn't melt into a pile of silicon goo first.

18 hours ago
Michael Fryd

Backups can be on traditional spinning media.

In fact, there are advantages to storing backups on a different type of media. It reduces the chances that a firmware error could cause the loss of both the primary and the backup.

18 hours ago
Danny
Danny

Imagine that some day we will find this thing, covered with dust, at someone' garage sale, making fun of it's capacity.

19 hours ago
biggercountry

Cool that SSD data density has leapfrogged magnetic disc density by so many orders of magnitude. (This now makes it 6:1.) That happened faster than I thought it would. Shows how much I thought I knew.

20 hours ago
Sannaborjeson
Sannaborjeson

God only knows how badly I need this! :-)

23 hours ago
zodiacfml

I will not be able to imagine how much this thing will cost considering the Samsung 15TB is already at $10,000. Yet, this thing will be able to find buyers with data centers located in expensive locations.

23 hours ago
junk1

I recall we paid a lot (perhaps $10k) for a very small (100MB?) solid state drive (not sure what they were called back then!) 10-13 years ago for a military application.

19 hours ago
bwana4swahili
bwana4swahili

I have the $4,500 receipt for a 5 MByte harddrive back in 1980 and the 300 MByte disk pac out of a Prime computer's harddrive; the size of a washing machine, driven by a 1/2 HP motor and $25,000 a unit!

Isn't the the leaps and bounds of technology fun to watch...?

14 hours ago
Adam Palmer

Want one so bad! I bet mere mortals can afford one in 5 years. My current batch of HD is 1 million times bigger than the first one I ever owned. 20mb vs 20th. It could happen.

1 day ago
lauarvic

Now I can store all my porn in one HD, thanks Seagate

1 day ago
Debankur Mukherjee
Debankur Mukherjee

Very impressive but what will be the price..........

1 day ago
Julian

Expensive, this one is for server rooms only... $10000 for Samsungs 15TB SSD so a few multiples more...
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/8/1/12342696/samsung-pm1633a-ssd-15tb-storage-drive-specs-price

1 day ago*
ScapingFeet
ScapingFeet

I can only hope the price of the smaller 1TB SSD's will come down now?

1 day ago
J A C S
J A C S

It may seem a lot but it is not good even for cat photos. There are 60+ million cats in the US. This drive would fit only one 1Mb photo of each one, and 1Mb is too low for a good IQ cat photo.

1 day ago
OpenandShutterCase
OpenandShutterCase

You need a good RAID array for cats. In any case, tech like 3D NAND might make rotational storage obsolete even under a pure $/GB basis. This particular drive is meant for servers though...I can't think of many workstations or consumer builds with SAS controllers.

1 day ago
Zdman

1MB cat photos borders on sacrilege. Cat photos must be stored with lossless compression or the fine details of the whiskers will be lost making them worthless. This won’t even cover 5% of the cats available. Segate will have to try harder.

1 day ago*
skanter
skanter

"Launches"? What does that mean? "Available sometime in 2017".

This is misrepresentation. "Announces" would be more accurate.

1 day ago
randalusa
randalusa

Launches an announcement maybe. Hey, writing copy for publication is difficult stuff. I've done it. Human beings, you know. We make a lot of mistakes and overlook things.

18 hours ago
skanter
skanter

Yes, my 3TB WD "backup" drive died suddenly - no warning. Obviously, one needs to backup the backup, ad infinitum until it is an Escher drawing.

This is the weak link in modern computers - safe, automatic backup. Is this not possible?

1 day ago
PeaceKeeper

Uh... yes? Easily...

I can't even count the number of alternatives...

1 day ago
Richard Murdey
Richard Murdey

A working copy and a backup copy is usually sufficient. For extra safety you have your backup RAID1 or make a separate archive copy or buy cloud storage. In this case your backup failed but your working directory is ok so just get a new backup drive and copy again from your working directory... no big deal.

1 day ago
Mike FL

skanter;

Other than backup, here is what I did for one of my PC:
- Add one more HDD configured as RAID 1 for redundancy,
- Add 32GB M.2 SSD Cache card for accelerating the HDD by "Intel RST" utility

I did this after my WB "backup" drive died.

Anyway, the benefits of by configuring PC as above are:
- The PC is booting up as fast as my other PCs with SSD, so does launching APPs,

- HDD has much much higher TBW than SSD

- In expansive as you only need to add a HDD and a M.2 SSD Cache card

- More reliable as it is does not hurt the system too much if the M.2 SSD Cache card died b/c I configure the HDD has copy of Cache card data.

BTW, as far as I can see, Windows is kind of reliable for telling you that HDD is about to die.

1 day ago*
guest2015

i just waiting for fast reliable 250gb ssd "deals"

1 day ago
jyw5

What's the deal with photographers and cats?

1 day ago
BigOne

Considering the quality and fail rate of modern hard drives I'd rather NOT have so much information stored on one device. Losing so much would be devastating. And very soon it WILL become a problem for large data centers, too. With the fail rate creeping over to 5%, you can easily lose 50 out of every 1000 SSDs you have installed. That's 3,000 TB lost - even monsters like Google and Yahoo would feel such a loss.

I really hope the manufacturers will abandon the volume "arms race" and start working on quality to bring it back to what we had 20 years ago. I still run my system on a 40-GB HDD I bought in 1998. But I lost a WD 3-TB drive (and everything on it) that wasn't even a year old. Cheap mass-production may work for underwear but for hard drives those fail rates are simply too high. Your made-in-china washing machine goes bang - no big deal. Your 3-4-8-10-TB hard drive failing is a disaster.

1 day ago
techjedi

You need to backup the same content across multiple drives of the same capacity. It is a shame you lost that 3TB drive, but I would have had two of those in a mirror for live redundancy and then a third drive as an offline backup in the case of a rogue malware that deleted both of the online systems. With respect, drive failure rates aren't a reason to avoid large/modern drives. Backup is essential for drives of any size.

1 day ago
ProfHankD
ProfHankD

The high failure rate on SSDs as I understand it has to do with degradation due to WRITES, not READS (electromechanical disk drives have completely different failure characteristics). Using SSDs for fast-access, mostly read-only, archiving works very well. Beyond that, smart folks have been using RAID (redundant array of inexpensive disks) configurations since the 1980s. My home backup for the last few years is 20TB in a 5-drive RAID 6 configuration that can have any two drives die without data loss... and yes, I also have remote backups of most important stuff. Why? Because I do cluster supercomputing, and I've seen literally hundreds of disk drives die... and I also have data on tapes and other obsolete media that I can no longer read.

1 day ago
phrehdd

Your logic is good but flawed. I agree that the larger the drive the more data may be stored and if that drive fails, one 'might' have a problem. However, proper precautions would solve most problems of that nature. These are not mechanical drives so the conditions change somewhat. There are so many variations on a theme of keeping data in more than one place (including writes to those targets) that it can be considered reasonably safe. The biggest problem would be whether people would take the right avenues for preservation of data or not and that some of the better options require a bit more than modern day typical mirroring of drives (RAID 1). Similar can be said of which drive will be read and it need not be one of two drives in this example but both drives etc. Meanwhile, a writeback to a 3rd drive can be done between activities in the background. The list goes on but lets remember we are talking serious use of drives and not the typical home or small business.

1 day ago
filmpoet

Same thing happen to my WD 3TB drive after six months. I lost plenty of files. WD is trash to me and I will never buy another. I also will never have only one larged archived backup. Lesson learned on both accounts.

1 day ago
FLruckas

@BigOne

So you've never heard of RAID or other forms of redundancy?

1 day ago
guest2015

whoever can afford 60tb ssd can afford to set them up in raid.

1 day ago
PeaceKeeper

Drive failures are not new. As performance and capacity increases, so do the rates of error, mechanical fatigue and subsequently, failure. I have several 18 year old 8gb WD drives(I HIGHLY doubt your 40 gb drive is 20 years old... they simply did not exist) that are still kickin around, functional... But I also have a pile of those same 8gb WD drives that were sent to the firing range(literally) due to failure after only a year or 2 of use.

I worked as desktop support at that time, so I actually have a pretty good feel for the rates of failure. They have not significantly increased, not NEARLY to the levels your example seems to imply.

Data has ALWAYS needed to be backed up. The reason we see it as more of a problem now is the simple fact that more people value electronic data compared to 20 years ago. Everything has shifted to electronic mediums, and the general public are more sensitive to data loss that was once only a concern for corporations or computer geeks.

1 day ago*
FLruckas

Anyone who thinks that a datacenter that's going to spend $20,000 on a single hard drive and not implement it in a way that it either won't be mission critical data or won't have redundancy is pretty naïve.

We're not talking about the hard drive in a personal computer that a non computer professional is managing.

But everyone seems to be using that as an example.

22 hours ago
AshMills

And this argument for "Yikes! Too many eggs in one basket!!" has been going on since baskets first got bigger.

21 hours ago
StevenE

1-4 TB is fine for now, I'm more interested in bringing the cost of SSD's down

1 day ago
PanoMax
PanoMax

http://petapixel.com/2015/05/24/365-gigapixel-panorama-of-mont-blanc-becomes-the-worlds-largest-photo/

Now I tell you, soon 60 terabytes won't be enough when we create images like this 46 terabytes file

1 day ago
BigOne

And imagine your co-workers mass-sending petapixel kitten photos three times a day.

1 day ago
ProfHankD
ProfHankD

There is never enough storage. The camera I've been working toward in my research would generate ~1TB/s of raw image data... and that's just one camera.

1 day ago
lauarvic

the 100% crop is a bit soft..

1 day ago
Nukunukoo
Nukunukoo

Now where can I get $19,000?

1 day ago
BigOne

Become a dealer. :-)

1 day ago
lauarvic

ask the real question

1 day ago
mosc

So this is the beginning of the end for HDD. You can now forcast with relative certainty when the last useful (beyond legacy applications) HDD will be manufacturered. Now it's just $/GB reductions until death. 60TB 3.5" HDD's we will never see.

1 day ago
BigOne

Remember how DVD was the CD-killer. It lasted less than a decade and was replaced by MP4 and AVI. Who knows, SSD may have the same short fate.

1 day ago
marc petzold
marc petzold

Well, just a few mins raw data recording at LHC into Cern....before "disk full" notice...nothing more, nothing less... ;-))

1 day ago
Barty L
Barty L

I dunno, my sources tell me that the actual particle accelerator only occupies a few hundred metres of the ring, with the rest being full of banks of 3.5" floppy drives.

1 day ago
BigOne

Just out of curiosity, why are you bashing LHC's modernity? Something I missed?

1 day ago
Barty L
Barty L

As far as I know, the LHC is the most technologically complex thing ever built by humans. It is a striking example of modernity. I was employing a humorous device we humans refer to as irony.

1 day ago
Chris Noble
Chris Noble

What does "launch" mean, when the product will only be available "some time in 2017"? Very misleading title.

1 day ago
PanoMax
PanoMax

Just what I need for my Gigapan panoramas.

Somewhat higher capacity than floppy disks.

1 day ago
Pat Cullinan Jr
Pat Cullinan Jr

It's a tease.

1 day ago
Barty L
Barty L

Seems like the endurance will be fine for the average non-commercial user. From the article, "All of the drives surpassed their official endurance specifications by writing hundreds of terabytes without issue." Most died only after approaching a Peta-byte of writes, one even made it past 2PB.

1 day ago
Lan

What about endurance of HDDs? I've had far more spinning rust boxes fail than I have SSDs/flash cards. As an added bonus, when a memory card has gone south, it's generally only a few bits that have gone wonky. When my HDDs fail they usually destroy all the data at once.

The key is, whichever route you choose, make sure you have robust and tested backups.

1 day ago
Mike FL

The OP' link for Endurance testing shows the Samsung 250GB SSD (which I uses) has almost 10 times " surpassed their official endurance specifications".

The Samsung 250GB is guaranty for 75 TBW only as far as I can recall.

I think SSD has better MTBF than HDD, but HDD has much much higher TBW than SSD for sure.

1 day ago
steelhead3

These I am sure are for server farms like Facebook and Apple (in my backyard, they are huge)

1 day ago
RedFox88

Unlikely. Disk drives have far more durability and reliability than SSD.

1 day ago
FLruckas

Durability and reliability are irrelevant.

With RAID and wear reporting these will be replaced long before they fail.

They easily meet their write guarantee.

They're light years faster than a spinning drive.

How many new 1/8 thick laptops have spinning drives?

Welcome to the future.

I agree we will never see a 60TB spinning drive.

1 day ago
Music Hands

Of course we'll see 60TB spinning drives. These two media will coexist for years to come.

1 day ago
FLruckas

60 TB spinning drives.
Yeah.
Right.
They're already filling them with helium to get 8 or 10TB.
What are they gonna do, put hydrogen in them?
We'll call them Hindenburgs.

1 day ago*
Bassman2003

It all depends upon how much they can get the cost down in manufacturing SSDs. The drives are mainly memory chips which get faster and cheaper in every other area of the computer world. If you could make SSDs for the same cost as today's spinners, why keep the spinners?

No doubt we will get there. Consumers and prosumers mainly do not need drives over 10TB. I think we will see 10TB SSDs in an affordable range for those who need them within a few years.

20 hours ago*
AshMills

Will wait for the 120TB

1 day ago
Max Iso
Max Iso

I will settle for nothing less than 480TB...

1 day ago
pburness

I can remember when 10Megabyte hard drives were considered high tech... How far technology has moved on.....

1 day ago
webrunner5

Yeah I had a IBM XT computer with a state of the art 4mb hard drive. It had 64k memory and cost me like $4,000.00 with out a monitor in around 1983.

1 day ago*
PowerG9atBlackForest
PowerG9atBlackForest

Yeah I remember having paid the sum of $400 for a 15k PCMCIA card.

1 day ago*
Eric Hensel
Eric Hensel

...and a blazing Hayes 1200 baud modem.

1 day ago
FLruckas

Penniless Mr Hayes.

Ended up as a bartender I believe.

And you had 1200?

I only had 300!

And a 110 baud TTY.

(No respect for baudot)

;-)

1 day ago
Music Hands

Oh yeah, I paid 1000 dollars (not a misprint) for a 10 MB hard drive. And it had value then.

1 day ago
Edmond Leung

I still have two 8 inch IBM floppy disks of 80KB capacity.

1 day ago
Edmond Leung

.... and I still remember the first computer I used was a Nixdorf computer with two removable 13MB hard disk. At that time, 13MB was "huge".

1 day ago
PorscheDoc
PorscheDoc

I can top all of you! I used 8 inch floppy disks with 64 kB capacity to store data from a $100k NMR spectrometer. This was much more advanced than walking back and forth to the computer center carrying a box of computer (cardboard) cards.

1 day ago
webrunner5

I did RTTY as a Ham Radio operator for years. Man I had a blast with old surplus stuff back then. That was in the Seattle Worlds fair time. 2 meter and 20 meter stuff. 6 meter mobile stuff in my car.

1 day ago
FLruckas

"Seagate say the driver"

Huh?

Typo or two there?

How did they fit so many 2TB Samsung SSDs into that 3.5 inch form factor?

Just kidding.

I still have a few IBM micro drives laying around.

This is the future of hard drives.

(The same thing that happened to the Microdrive)

We'll all be using tablets to access the data on this SSD HDD in the cloud.

Welcome to the future.

Almost.

1 day ago
1 day ago
leifurh

... but of course it should then have been "Seagate launch 60TB SSD", shouldn't it? :-)

1 day ago
FLruckas

I didn't see that DPR had a .uk

My bad!

:-)

But me things it should have said "Seagate says the drive" vs "Seagate say the driver"

1 day ago
Caledonia

That doesn't bother me . . . but I gotta point out [pun intended] that there are no "points" in time -- there are *moments* in time, and there are points in space. No moments in space . . . and no points in time.

17 hours ago
Paul B Jones
Paul B Jones

That's a lot of cat photos.

1 day ago
AngularJS

You may even think about getting an extra cat :)

1 day ago
Henry Alekna Photography
Henry Alekna Photography

Extra cat- or five!

1 day ago
Stephen McDonald
Stephen McDonald

Invest in cat farms, not electronics.

1 day ago