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Possible Olympus FF dilemma....what will they do?

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Re: It depends on whether people have any technical savvy.
In reply to Wellington100, 4 days ago

Wellington100 wrote:

Louis_Dobson wrote:

There is no long term advantage in FF, there's only an advantage now because MFT sensors are basically cut down bigger sensors instead of scaled up smaller one.
If you take MFT and make the pixel pitch two times tighter and the lenses two stops faster what you have you have is FF with a smaller camera (same size lenses).
Then you can swap the lenses for slower ones and have a pocket-able system.
However, marketing says big sensors are better. It's really about whether people see through that.

I understand what you are saying but here is the thing, if you increase your lenses by two stops, they are going to cost serious money whether they are zooms or primes and that two stop gain only gives them the same light gathering power as budget FF lenses (more or less). Spend the same sort of serious money on FF lenses and they will be beyond the reach of any M4/3 lenses in terms of light gathering and bokeh and I think that would be the argument in favour of FF.

It depends...  It doesn't seem to be that hard to make f1.2 primes, and an f1.8 midrange zoom should be easy enough.  These are around about what Sony are offering.

The point that people miss is these don't have to be your only lenses.  You carry them when you need them but otherwise have the f1.8 primes and f2.8 zooms, which are tiny, high quality, cheap, and f3.6 / f5.6 in terms of light gathering, which is fine for most things.

People are very often driven by specs and not by reality, in reality M4/3 is a magnificent system IMHO and once you start to use it, its a no brainer and any photographer worth his salt can quite easily figure out how to get a great shot in almost situation with any M4/3 camera. To me it's great fun carrying these little cameras and a bunch of tiny lenses and I would not swap to FF because of the size and weight issues and because I actually prefer the deeper DOF of M4/3, its way more forgiving.

But marketing is a funny thing and with Oly and Pentax in that game as well and Canon and eventually Nikon possibly going the mirrorless route in future and with the market shrinking year on year they are all going to be desperate to get people to lock into their mount systems and they will all position APS-C as the small budget sensor and try to undermine M4/3 (except Oly of course)

Wellington100 wrote:

Ulric wrote:

Wellington100 wrote:

As for M4/3, its still a great format but overall it is inevitable that it will be perceived as a budget format in the long run.

I'm not so sure about that and the success of the PEN-F suggests otherwise.

What I am saying is that I think that in the long run consumers will perceive the format as a budget format, thats not to say that Oly will not continue to offer high priced lenses and cameras.

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