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Quick review: Nextbit Robin camera

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Nextbit Robin camera quick review

The Nextbit Robin is a brand new smartphone that started its life as a Kickstarter project. The first units are now shipping to project backers, and the device is now available for order to other consumers as well. On the surface the Robin looks like any other Android phone, albeit one with a pretty pleasing design. However, both the Android operating system and the Nextbit hardware have been optimized to make the Robin the first real cloud phone.

When the device is connected to Wi-Fi and plugged into the charger it automatically backs up apps and photos to the cloud. When you start running out of local storage space on the device, files and apps you haven't used in a while are archived. This means they are deleted from the device but grayed out app icons and image thumbnails are still visible. When you tap on an archived app or photo it is downloaded from the cloud, so you can access it again from your device. Depending on file size and internet connection this can take a short while. On my home Wi-Fi an app typically took around 30 seconds to restore. If you prefer you can also 'pin' an app to ensure it is never archived. 

In the few days I've spent testing device, the archiving and restoring process worked without any problems, making the Nextbit Robin and interesting option for those who like installing large numbers of imaging apps and/or like to keep all their images accessible through the device's gallery app. That said, at DPReview we are of course most of all interested in the Nextbit Robin's camera performance. Read on to find out how it performs in the imaging department.

Archived apps are grayed out on the home screen. They can be downloaded and restored via a single tap.
In the settings you'll find information on both local and cloud storage usage.

Key Specifications:

  • 13MP camera with phase detection AF
  • F2.2 aperture
  • Dual-tone LED flash
  • 4K video
  • 5MP front camera
  • 5.2-inch IPS LCD 1080p display with Gorilla Glass 4
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 chipset
  • 3GB RAM
  • 32GB onboard storage
  • 100GB online storage
  • Stereo speakers
  • Fingerprint reader
  • Quick charging
  • 2680 mAh battery

Camera app

The camera mode offers a ''Manual' mode' but unfortunately no control over shutter speed.

The Nextbit Robin comes with a basic but intuitive camera app that offers a nicely designed user interface, in line with the Nextbit Android launcher. By default it's on full Auto which gives you very little control. A tap on the '+' symbol at the bottom opens up flash, controls, a timer, grid and HDR switch. A dot grid icon lets you switch between Auto camera, Manual camera and video mode. Having to press two controls before being able to record a video seems a little longwinded though, maybe a better solution can be implemented with a future update.

The Manual mode gives you control over AF, ISO and white balance and an exposure compensation slider but you cannot set shutter speed manually. There is currently no panorama mode but the team is planning to add one at a later stage. Overall the Nextbit camera app works reasonably well but is designed for point-and-shoot operation. Photographers who want more control over the image capture process should not have any trouble finding plenty of third-party camera apps on Google Play, though. 

Image Quality

We took a range of sample shots to have a look at the Nexbit Robin's camera performance in different light conditions. The Robin delivers good exposure across the ISO range, with punchy colors. The auto white balance produces natural results in most situations. The two images below were taken in bright sun light. As you can see in those conditions the camera does a god job at resolving fine detail. Some smearing of low contrast detail is visible but overall textures are very good for a camera in the 13MP class. Sharpness is decent across the frame but softness is noticeable around the edges. Shadow noise is fairly well controlled as well.

ISO 50, 1/720 sec
ISO 50, 1/1114 sec
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Some luminance noise is visible in areas of plain color, such as the sky in the left sample below, even at base ISO. However, it is fairly finely grained, making it a little more pleasant to look at than the smeared noise blobs on some other mid-range smartphone cameras. The lens deals very well with strong light sources in or close to the edge of the frame. We could not provoke any significant lens flare, even when pointing the camera directly at the sun.

ISO 50, 1/1053 sec
ISO 50, 1/856 sec
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For the indoor shots below the camera raises the ISO to 129 and 249 respectively, but maintains shutter speeds that minimize the risk of blur through camera shake and will freeze at least slower motion. Luminance noise is clearly getting stronger in those conditions but the camera still manages to capture a decent amount of detail. In the image on the right chroma noise is making a noticeable appearance.

ISO 129, 1/40 sec
ISO 248, 1/50 sec
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For the night shot below on the left, the camera set a relatively low ISO of 412 which resulted in a slightly underexposed image. It appears exposure is strongly linked to the AF point which on this occasion was pointed at the illuminated doorway. On the upside the Robin captures decent detail while keeping image noise at acceptable levels. The ISO 806 image on the right was captured in a dimly lit interior. The white balance system deals well with the low tungsten lighting. Noise is very noticeable, especially in the shadow areas, but detail is still good and overall the Robin's low light performance is good for this class of camera.

ISO 412, 1/20 sec
ISO 806, 1/12 sec
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HDR mode

As mentioned above the Robin's current software exposure seems to be strongly linked to the AF-point which, in high-contrast situations like the one in the samples below, can lead to highlight clipping. Thankfully an HDR mode is on board but as you can see its efficiency in terms of highlight recovery is very limited. There is a touch better detail in the statue and the tree on the right edge of the frame but there is still a lot of clipped image area. Shadows have been lifted much more noticeably. On the upside, there is no noticeable loss in detail.

In our prototype version of the device the HDR mode is also quite laggy, with very slow shot-to-shot times. However, the team tells us this is a known issue that will be resolved for the production version of the Robin.

HDR off
HDR on
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Conclusion

The Nextbit Robin's unique selling proposition is its innovative cloud storage concept that worked very well in the few days we have used the device. This makes it an interesting alternative to those who want to access large numbers of photos from their gallery app without shelling out big bucks for a phone with a lot of built-in storage.

The Robin also comes with with an attractive design that makes it stand out from the crowd. However, a 13MP sensor with PDAF, an F2.2 aperture and no OIS makes the camera specification pretty conventional and a step behind current high-end devices. That said, at $399 the Robin is very attractively priced and Nextbit is making the most of the imaging hardware. The Robin performs well in all light conditions, with very good detail for a 13MP device in bright light and a good balance between noise reduction and detail retention in lower light. Colors are usually on the punchy side but pleasant. Exposure is generally good but seems to be very strongly linked to the AF-point which, in some high-contrast situations, can lead to over or underexposure.

The camera app is designed for point-and-shoot operation and is easy to use, though we wish it offered quicker access to the video mode. Those who want more control over the capture process will no doubt be better suited with a third-party app from Google Play. The Robin is also very thin on imaging features. There are no filters or panorama modes, and the HDR mode is not terribly efficient and currently a little laggy. According to the Nextbit team the latter two issues will be resolved with future software updates.

Overall, if camera performance is your number one priority the Nextbit Robin is probably not for you. However, if you can live with solid mid-range camera performance, that hopefully will improve slightly with updated software, and think the cloud features will make your life easier, it is definitely worth a closer look. The Robin can now be ordered on the Nextbit website


Comments

Total comments: 44
adambob

I read a post about this phone on another site. They were talking about the design and said "we started with a classic rectangle and let it inspire us".
Looks like they didn't get much inspiration at all! a very boring looking phone in my opinion.

0 upvotes
nerd2

So what's new? Haven't we been using google drive, dropbox, box and apple cloud for years?

It's cheap midrange phone with slow outdated AP and mediocre camera. Why is it even worth the review? I think galaxy a7 is way better device than this.

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0 upvotes
bernardly

The photos of the device do not look real but more like highly photoshopped visualizations. It would much more helpful to see real photos of the shipping product.

1 upvote
Ademeion

To me the phone looks like it was designed by a machine, not a human being. Boring and cold. The design is all brain, no soul.

1 upvote
Digital Suicide

This is something new. And looks good to addition. It could interest me if it become available in my region.

0 upvotes
p51d007

I keep a backup of photos on my phone, as I do with my dSLR photos (which I keep on the home, work, backup HDD, thumbdrive, several dvd's...I'm paranoid).
I don't like the idea of my photos on the "cloud". I'll keep them on my phone, on an SD card. Not to mention, the data required to get them to/from the cloud.

0 upvotes
Sirandar

Other advantage: probably fully unlocked and rooted

Other Disadvantage: no microSD, I guess they don't like competition (lol)

0 upvotes
Sirandar

Note 4 with a 128GB microSD card ..... that's over 150GB. That is an enormous number of phone photos. Buy a 7$ USBtoGo cable and connect any flash drive to the phone in 1 sec.

The only real advantage is that the Robin keeps track of where your files are locally or on cloud and they are backed up to the cloud.

The obvious disadvantages are:

1) 150GB of local storage is more than enough storage for phone pics. Nobody would use a phone to store and manipulate dSLR/mirrorless pics, only perhaps to keep the best ones for showing purposes.
2) Android and F-Stop App can catalog and organize your local files and filter them by Lightroom tags. Can this app do this? Local catalogs are always up to date, Internet or no.
3) You need the Internet and there are many realworld places where it isn't easily accessible. Even airports both make you jump through hoops and spy on you for spotty WiFi.
4) Once on the Cloud are you sure that you still own your pics if there was a legal challenge?

1 upvote
GabrielZ

The most interesting looking Android smartphone I've seen so far. Makes the Sammy S6 Edge look ordinary.

3 upvotes
adengappasami

Google photos, Flickr.. Flickr is 1TB :)

0 upvotes
dvassafor

Best design in the last coupl'a years.

3 upvotes
N13L5

Sounds fine for people who never leave their urban high speed internet area, who believe the internet will never be shut down for reasons of martial law or war or whatever.

I keep saying, the NSA should just offer cloud backup and they wouldn't have to go to so much trouble to get your data, you'd give it to them out of lazyness and airheadedness.

4 upvotes
fuego6

if the "internet" is ever "shut down" - I doubt using your cell phone for backup will be your first priority...

3 upvotes
N13L5

I carry a 40GB library on my cell phone, including tomes like "ditch medicine" and "a ship captain's guide to medicine when there's no doctor and no supplies" etc.

There is no better way to keep handy a lot of information than a cell phone. I don't know what you use yours for, but for me, its mainly a tiny computer and storage for data I may not be able to look up on Google some day soon, given the speed the warmongering Globalists are moving towards crisis.

0 upvotes
photogeek

Things people will do to avoid giving you a micro sd slot. Guys, a 128GB microsd card is $30 on Amazon and prices are dropping like a rock. Who needs this?

6 upvotes
fuego6

Lose your phone... lose your data/photos... in the cloud.. I get it back. Also, in the cloud - I can share and see it with anyone I please... on microSD.. only for me.

Cloud is great if done right...

3 upvotes
photogeek

My iPhone does automatic backups to my Mac when it's on home WiFi.

0 upvotes
N13L5

Cloud is fine to add as a backup, but it can never replace a 200GB MicroSD card.

@fuego6 - I have never lost a phone yet. If I did loose one, I have multiple backups and a credit card sized case holding 10 MicroSD cards - I don't just use them for my phone, of course, also for camera and field recorder to swap etc.

1 upvote
fuego6

N13L5 - and i hope you don't.. but it happens.

0 upvotes
straylightrun

Why bother? Just get a 200gb micro sd card.

2 upvotes
migus

Might be an interesting phone, except one 'feature', i.e., "Cloud storage" to which any serious user should take exception.

" alternative to those who want to access large numbers of photos from their gallery app without shelling out big bucks for a phone with a lot of built-in storage."

Local storage today is plentiful, fast, light and affordable; e.g. a 32GB uSD card costs practically only a few $, not larger/heavier than pocket lint, barely a gram. Also the 128+ GB cards cost a fraction of most data plans. Thus one could carry her personally private 'cloud' about, fast, cheap and secure.

Wanna show my latest shots to a friend met on the street, with voice comments? Presto, at local speed, no data costs!

Yet the local storage has become the anathema of Cloud Inc., the "big data" companies monetizing their users' data. A uSD card is cheaper, lighter, faster than ever... if only a port would exist to use it!

I'd never buy a device w/o local storage ports built-in.

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PeaceKeeper

I agree completely. The fact that you have to SEARCH for devices that support SD is a horrible scam. I cannot believe people fall for this blatant scheme.

5 upvotes
pmow

This phone is touted as being cloud connected, but Android and iOS has already been doing this (offloading photos/music seamlessly when needed) for a while now. You don't have to use the feature if you want to run out of space on your local storage, or lose all the photos when you lose your phone or when your memory goes bad.

You lament the extinction of microSD expansion. I'd suggest buying the only flagship phones on the market that still have them (LG). The fact is that many engineers have already said it takes up too much space, and consumers would rather have a thin phone over having microSD or wireless charging.

0 upvotes
AstroStan

Although Windows phones are on death watch, they have had seamless cloud/local storage for some time (plus micro-DS and removable battery). Very useful. I had assumed this was also implemented in the other OSes.

2 upvotes
PeaceKeeper

pmow, that is EXACTLY what we said we ARE doing. Buying the phones that have them.

We are saying that it's a marketing ploy that phones do NOT include them. The idea that they take up too much space is a flat out lie, phones are getting bigger and bigger, and not because of SD slots. I have 5 year old smart phones with them that are smaller than new phones by a LONG shot.

And the insinuation that people would rather have a "thin phone" is ignorant, as most people put stupid fat cases on them. The fact is, they have been convinced by salespeople that "the cloud is in, SD is out", all for the sake of making more money on ridiculous data plan rates.

As someone who used to sell phones(poorly, as I refused to lie), I can tell you that for a fact.

3 upvotes
N13L5

You're forgetting Greedle's motivation to have access to more of your data - why they outright forbid any manufacturer who wants to make a Nexus device to include a MicroSD card.

And of course, corporations have no intention for us to go on keeping control over our own data. We're supposed to be dependent on them.

Wanting to dip into our bank accounts on a monthly basis is actually secondary, believe it or not...

2 upvotes
migus

The "big data" battle is less about monthly tapping our banking accounts (albeit it does matter). Much more about controlling the users' (Google, MS, FB et al) or consumers' (Apple, Amazon et al) IO: Every touch, keystroke, query, click, shot, vocal utterance, iris, heartbeat (yes, even your biometrics are sent to the "cloud")...

Hence the splendored (walled) gardens of Cloud Inc, each watched by its Deeply Neurotic Sauron, silently learning us.

But then, how come that Cloud Inc never bothers to ask me: What products/services do you consider buying, when and at what price points?

Like everybody, my Wish Lists on Amazon, eBay etc. are rarely -if ever- addressed with relevant ads. Perhaps it's more fun to fingerprint our browsers, telemetrize our OSes and let Sauron snoop its 7B+ subjects.

1 upvote
N13L5

I wish I had even the smallest reason to jump up and say "you're wrong."

But you got it nailed. The only good thing in this nightmare is that every day, more people are waking up to it.

There are a lot more people who are somewhat aware, but resist allowing it to the surface of their minds, cause they know very well it would totally screw up the life they currently either enjoy or at least find tolerable.

Replacing a nagging but nebulous feeling with the sure knowledge of impending doom just isn't fun.

1 upvote
KonstantinosK

Design wise, I think it looks great.

2 upvotes
guest2015

never!!!

2 upvotes
dr Ate

Sorry but what's the big deal with automatic backup to the cloud? G+ / SkyDrive is already doing this very similiar way on every Android device since long time ?

2 upvotes
LegacyGT

It's a gimmick, but this phone will also automatically rotate in/out any apps on your phone as well to make more space. With some game apps taking 200-1000MB of storage, it technically could make a big difference, if it didn't take so long to re-download stuff over wireless. As it... if you are the app-hoader type (I know someone who has over 200 apps on his phone) just get a phone with an microSD card slot.

0 upvotes
pmow

Yeah, the gimmick has more downsides (niche product) than upsides (cloud apps).

Music and Photos take up *way* more space than apps. Since you can already offload these seamlessly, it makes more sense to just leave apps on your phone, offload the music/photos, and simply buy a phone that makes sense for the number of apps.

0 upvotes
joe6pack

I don't see much value for backing up apps to the cloud. It is more of an issue of how phone manufacturers partition their phone's flash memory for internal storage.

1 upvote
PeaceKeeper

I have yet to figure out why the public is more comfortable with the horribly ambiguous sounding "cloud" as opposed to, say, "distributed file service", or "integrated file server".

Clouds are fluffy and I can see them! Sounds like a good place to store my data!

4 upvotes
PhotoKhan

The horrible ambiguous fluffy name was created on purpose, in order for the public to not understand the non-ambiguous horrible things it brings along.

4 upvotes
Xeexon

I have an excellent solution- it's subtly brilliant (though you have to trust me). There is a Google Chrome extension called 'Cloud to Butt'', and how it works is by changing every occurrence of 'The Cloud' you come across to 'the Butt'. That's it.

I always forget I have it and almost die of laughter every few months. Happy clouding.

3 upvotes
RedFox88

Square cornered? Poor for holding for a while. And apple will sue them over the button position and design at the bottom center.

0 upvotes
Lars Rehm

that's not a button but a speaker, like most Android phones the Nextbit has a soft home button.

0 upvotes
Mister Roboto

Hmm I'd rather buy Nexus 5X, much better and well-optimized and guaranteed FW update up Android 8 or 9. =D

5 upvotes
jkrumm

I guess it's one of those inevitable ideas. Seems like a service that could go out of business too.

The camera looks not bad for a smartphone.

0 upvotes
Gonard

How does the Nextbit Robin compare to the Amazon Fire? Amazon offers unlimited storage of picture and video files. Fire cost $199 when they where available. But you got one year of Amazon Prime - a $99 value - thus making the phone price $100. The Fire has a 13 mp camera, HDR , good panorama, etc.

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Lars Rehm

well, there are lots of cloud services, including Amazon, but none of them are integrated into the phone's OS, like on the Nextbit. You basically use the Gallery and apps of the Nextbit just like you would on any other phone and all the cloud stuff is happening in the background.

0 upvotes
RedFox88

Is the Fire phone out of production and canned?

0 upvotes
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