Behind the Scenes: Recording a music video with Samsung NX cameras

DGriff0400:

There are 3 versions of Magix 2016, which one do you use?

We're full of CEOs here

Sponsored content that clearly state that it is sponsored is fine in a certain sense. Sponsored content that is brought as a leading article or is brought to you as news is doubtful.

Why?
Because (digital) magazines like DPreview should be objective when it comes down to news articles and reviews.

Many people base their buying decision upon what is said in the media. Lots of people take these articles as truthful. When journalists can't be trusted or aren't objective then people may start believing in lies as the truth.

With that said, I am glad that DPR now stated that this article has been paid for.

noflash:

Have you tried an NX1, NX500 or even an NX30?

All take excellent stills and video.

Samsung has good to excellent lenses for this system, albeit no long fast telephotos yet.

About the only reason to use a full framed camera would be to shoot much higher ISOs, so that excludes a bunch of current full framed cameras that aren't a lot better at higher ISOs than the NX1 already is.

By the way you have been caught by marketing in your statements. Full Frame isn't really Full Frame. There are larger sensors around. Full Frame is just the good old 35mm format that has been around for nearly 100 years.

All sensor formats have their advantages and disadvantages.
There are many professional photographers that went back to APS-C from 'full frame'.

They did so, because they don't need the extra thin DoF, they don't care about ultra high ISO's.

They don't care by what others say and think about them when they shoot with an APS-C camera. They most often do like the fact that it safes them weight and money, as they have found out that in reality there isn't much difference in Image Quality.

I personally still have to come across the first person, that can tell model and brand name of a camera in a blind test when showing them an image that they have never seen before.

So you tell I should not be happy with my NX500 and that it is not relevant to me?

I knew that I am kind of stupid sometimes, but thanks for pointing out that I am an imbecile.

Btw, I chose this one because it IS a great sensor and rather good value ...

LoL! Shame on Samsung for making a product that didn't matter to one guy. They must now change their whole sensor division for him.

@HowaboutRaw
'About the only reason to use a full framed camera would be to shoot much higher ISOs, so that excludes a bunch of current full framed cameras that aren't a lot better at higher ISOs than the NX1 already is.'

Yes just completely ignore the fact that 135 frame size has the widest amount of lenses made for it.
Lenses.
You know, those things you put on the front of a camera... to give you varied perspective, contrast, colour, control, depth of field, focus and sharpness attributes?

sh10453:

"even some 60s bands"?

"and 80s"?

Yeah, no one has ever heard of a rock band from the 1960s being really big, or having a very long productive career, or having written and recorded what's considered basically the greatest rock songs done--with the possible exception of a guy in the 1950s. Then there's this other guy in the 1960s, he's also still around.

I hope that 1960s line was ironical.

The Rolling Stones-1962
Fleetwood Mac-1967
The Who-1964
Bob Seger-throughout the 60s
Led Zeppelin-1968
Pink Floyd-1965
Jimmy Hendrix-throughout the 60s

There are many more, but search for Woodstock (1969) for all the rock bands and singers who participated in the musical.

Wow, I started a thread for old people. What are you guys doing here? Shouldn't you guys be shooting film?

;-)

acidic:

I'm guessing you're not familiar with film's weaknesses. :)

@Treeshade,
So 4k cropping is a crutch for those without storyboarding, framing, cinematography and camera handling skills?

I have used a large number of mirrorless cameras starting from the first mirrorless Panasonic G1, going through olympus, samsung, canon, all the way to my current Sony A6000. In terms of controls and ergonomics I rate the Samsung mirrorless as being towards the top in the group. In past they lacked in sensor performance and AF / general operation speed. Now that they seem to have fixed that, I would rate NX500 as a highly desirable mirrorless camera. As for EVF - well I was an early EVF adopter with Panasonic G1/GH1. However over time I now think EVF is overrated. I prefer the greater flexibility of using an LCD where I can keep eye contact with my subject and still look at the LCD for composition, instead of having to hide behind the camera looking through the EVF. I would gladly take the beautiful LCD displays of the samsung cameras over the small LCD of my A6000. I rarely use the EVF of my A6000, and when I do it is mostly because it offers a larger view than the small LCD.

When shooting in a theater or a concert hall, it's obnoxious holding up a camera or smartphone, w a bright LCD facing the people behind you.
Taking video is to torture these people. I won't buy a camera w/o EVF or the option of using one. YMMV.

The LCD on cameras like NX500 (and A6000) swivels up and offers a better solution. Instead of holding up the camera with LCD facing people behind you, you can flip the LCD up and look down at the LCD while capturing the video. Again I would much rather have the ability to look at the performance with my eyes as well while making the video, instead of having to watch the performance through the EVF all the time as I make the video. And being able to look at the entire scene is a great plus when recording a large performance with multiple performers. We all have our preferences, but after years of using EVFs, I have developed a preference to not use them very much.

I think you take the word "facing" too literally. Even you tilt it, those behind it can still see the bright rectangle (w moving images if you video taping). Distracting, annoying. Of course you can choose to ignore the reaction.

hmm, didn't the guy in the vid say that they were using the resolution for reframing etc. In anycase, real 1080 is still impressive.

Hey guys, sorry to report, both of our directors shot in 4k, but in post worked to output in 1080, mostly for workflow efficiency (scaling, reframing shots, color work).

I love this kind of videos.No matter if they're sponsored or not.
Seeing how it was shot the first scene it's mind-blowing for me.

Thank you DPR and Samsung.

Seem incredible how many people is just looking for questioning about the fact that is CLEARLY sponsored than the content itself.
Maybe it's the same people that will never pay a fee to be a DPR member.

@Barney Britton: On your Feedback Forum, I previously posted:

"In "Real-world test: the Sony a6000 goes surfing with Chris Burkard" you failed to disclose that Chris Burkard is an official Sony Global Imaging Ambassador. His job is to promote Sony products, not to provide an objective analysis of them."

At the time of that complaint, that video was not labeled as being sponsored content.

Ah, I see OK. Thanks. Yes we should have made that clearer. We debated about that one, because ultimately, Chris is a Sony user who became a Sony Artisan, and DPR had 100% editorial control over the video, so there was no outside influence into the content or editing, but it did cause some confusion.

I think the video quality of the NX1 speaks for itself, and I see the value of it being shown here. There are many things you can criticise DPR for, but this is not one of them.
If a picture is worth 1k words then a video is worth 1k pics? ;-)

Wish I could take credit for any of that, but my name got stuck at the top as the person who wrote up the news story. I have a list of lenses they used which I will add in a minute.

DPReview is not supported wholly by Amazon investment, it is (and has always been) supported by advertising revenue.

I wasn't talking about influencing staff opinions. This is just an ad for the NX1, made to look like a story and placed in the news feed. I think they should be separate or labeled as such on the front page, just my opinion.

Cheers

"This is just an ad for the NX1, made to look like a story"

We think it's a pretty cool demonstration of what it's possible to do with consumer interchangeable lens cameras. As such, it's (we think) interesting content. You're free to disagree but dismissing it as an 'ad' seems a little mean-spirited.

But it's still sponsored. Samsung doesn't care about cool demonstrations, just more publicity and more sales!
Would you have shared the content if it wasn't sponsored?...hmmmm.

Barney - the definition of advertising is as follows: something that is shown or presented to the public to help sell a product.

Samsung didn't sponsor this to fulfill some altruistic mission, right? Its to sell NX1's. Referring to content a camera manufacturer paid for anything other than an ad is disingenuous.

The video is cool, and defining it as an ad is hardly mean spirited. IMO it should have been labeled as sponsored on the front page - but I'm sure the click rate would be much lower if that were the case - and that's why you chose not to include the disclaimer there. Again my opinion.

Cheers

Regardless of the source or editorial control, a company paying to promote its product is advertising, plain and simple. What you have here is just product placement. I work in marketing and I get why you're so defensive - because an advertisement label will result in fewer clicks. Advertising comes in many forms - not just content given to you by a third party. Your narrow definition of an ad isn't correct. Ask anyone that works in advertising, they'll tell you its an ad. I've said my peace and we're not going to agree because you'll keep quoting the DPreview's incorrect definition of an ad. Cheers.