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Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM review

May 2014 | By Andy Westlake

The Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM | Art is a fast 'normal' lens designed for full frame SLRs, and one of the most hotly-anticipated lenses of 2014. Sigma shook up the moribund 'fast 50' sector back in March 2008 when it announced the 50mm F1.4 EX DG HSM, which we considered to be 'Highly Recommended' for its impressive optics, especially at larger apertures. This marked the start of string of excellent fast primes from the Japanese lens maker, including last year's stellar 35mm F1.4 DG HSM | Art (another winner of our top award).

The latest 50mm is unusually large and expensive for its type; indeed its $950 / £850 / €1000 price tag suggests Sigma is aiming at users who might otherwise choose the Nikon AF-S Nikkor 58mm F1.4G, Canon EF 50mm F1.2L USM, or Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50mm F1.4 ZA SSM. It bears a distinct family resemblance to the company's 35mm F1.4, but if anything is slightly larger, with a 100mm / 4" long barrel and 77mm filter thread. Its complex optical formula of 13 elements in 8 groups isn't based on a conventional double-Gauss design, like most 50mm primes are, but instead is of the retrofocal type.

This set of characteristics, along with Sigma's recent track record of making impressive optics, means that the 50mm F1.4 Art has inevitably invited comparison to the astounding Zeiss Otus 1.4/55 - quite possibly the sharpest lens we've yet seen. However, given that lens's $4000 price tag, it seems a little optimistic to expect quite the same qualities. But the Sigma offers autofocus via a ring-type ultrasonic motor (with full-time manual override), which means it wins out on practicality. The new lens's premium price point also means that it doesn't directly replace the older model, which we understand will continue to be sold for some time yet.

Headline features

  • 50mm focal length
  • Fast F1.4 maximum aperture
  • Ring-type ultrasonic autofocus motor with full-time manual override
  • Internal focus design
  • Will be available in Canon EF, Nikon F, Sony Alpha, and Sigma SA mounts

Angle of view

The pictures below illustrate the 50mm F1.4 Art's angle of view on full frame and APS-C, taken from our standard position. As is Sigma's way, the lens is just slightly 'wide' for a 50mm prime (its measured focal length is 48mm), bringing it closer to a classic 'normal' view on full frame. On APS-C cameras it behaves like a short telephoto lens.

Full frame 1.6x APS-C (~80mm equivalent)

Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM | Art specifications

 Price  • $950 (US)
 • £850 (UK)
 • €1000 (EU)
 Date introduced  January 2014
 Maximum format size  35mm full frame
 Focal length  50mm
 35mm equivalent focal length
 • 75mm (1.5x APS-C / DX)
 • 80mm (1.6x Canon APS-C)
 Diagonal Angle of view  • 47º (full frame)
 • 31º (APS-C)
 Maximum aperture  F1.4
 Minimum aperture  F16
 Lens Construction  • 13 elements / 8 groups
 • 3 SLD glass elements
 • 1 aspherical element
 Number of diaphragm blades  9, rounded
 Minimum focus  0.4m
 Maximum magnification  0.18x
 AF motor type  • Ring-type Hypersonic Motor
 • Full-time manual focus
 Focus method  Internal
 Image stabilization  No
 Filter thread  • 77mm
 • Does not rotate on focus
 Supplied accessories*  • Front and rear caps
 • Petal-type Hood
 • Soft lens case
 Weight  815 g (28.7 oz)
 Dimensions  85 mm diameter x 100 mm length
 (3.4 x 3.9 in)
 Lens Mount  Canon EF, Nikon F, Sigma SA, Sony Alpha

* Supplied accessories may differ in each country or area

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Paul Guba

Well if do consider buying one it will have nothing to do what is reviewed here. When your links are called campaign then you moved beyond editorial content into the realm of advertising and selling. I can't even read the review because I feel its an advitorial.

1 upvote
samhain

Well then perhaps you'd like to pay their salaries & operating expenses Paul?
I'm sure if you cover their costs you'd be welcome to set up the site any way you want. But you don't, do you?
So stop b*tching about a website that's free, or go somewhere else.

7 upvotes
Andy Westlake

It isn't an advertorial, regardless of what you feel.

4 upvotes
chadley_chad
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Paul Guba

ad·ver·to·ri·al
ˌadvərˈtôrēəl/
noun
a newspaper or magazine advertisement giving information about a product in the style of an editorial or objective journalistic article.

Definition of 'Marketing Campaign'

Specific activities designed to promote a product, service or business. A marketing campaign is a coordinated series of steps that can include promotion of a product through different mediums (television, radio, print, online) using a variety of different types of advertisements. The campaign doesn't have to rely solely on advertising, and can also include demonstrations, word of mouth and other interactive techniques.

I didn't call it a campaign the site did.

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Andy Westlake

Oh, I now realise you're confused by the use of the word 'campaign' in the 'utm_campaign' section of the URL. This is simply Google Analytics code that allows us to track better how users progress through our site. It has nothing to do with advertising or product promotions at all.

(For example, you might see something like 'utm_ campaign=internal-link&utm_ source=mainmenu&utm_ medium=text&ref=mainmenu'. This simply tells us that the user arrived at the page from an internal link, using the main site menu. It's nothing more than that.)

Thanks for randomly providing a definition of the word 'advertorial', but it's completely irrelevant here - this review is not paid for by any external party.

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Jahled

I've never bought a Sigma because some people say there is no guarantee they will work with future models of the camera brands they are reverse engineered to work with. I've also heard to many people bemoan the 'Sigma lottery,' of getting a nice copy of a lens. I expect a 'nice copy' of a lens on my first purchace from Canon, and bar one in 2007, have always got one.

Is this me missing out on some lovely glass though?

0 upvotes
ageha

If it stops working with a future camera body, simply update the lens firmware. That's possible for decades.

6 upvotes
Mike Griffin

If you check out the lensrental site you will see that not every Canon lens is a good copy, far from it.

0 upvotes
AlephNull

Sigma's USB dock lets you update the firmware in the lens - it can be updated to handle new cameras.

0 upvotes
Ralf B

This lens definitely needs controlled backgrounds for its bokeh character
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.galleries.dpreview.com/2897503.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJ7ICBHXPIPPMTNCQ/20140529/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20140529T115209Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=a835a6936ab75fd16bb32e0232442f2daeee86d8a132a904c164540ac3e80dc5
The Sony FE 55/1.8 appears as having much smoother bokeh.
I prefer the CZ 135/1.8 for my Sony Alpha A mount FF for its combination of sharpness matching this lens a n d silky smooth bokeh. It appears as much more forgiving if you cannot avoid a busy fore/background.
http://kurtmunger.com/sony_135mm_f_1_8_carl_zeissid266.html

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dynaxx

I agree with your comments on the Sony ZA 135mm ( yes, the one DXO has never tested ).

It is the best lens I have seen for the A mount and superb for portraiture.

2 upvotes
Higuel

The Zeiss 135mm looks like maybe the best 135f1.8 untill now, but we are talking about 50mm here, otherwise, you could also speak about the canon 135L or even better: the 200mm f2.0L!!! And that one most likely completely puts the Zeiss to chame in Bokeh!!! ;D

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2 upvotes
sgoldswo

If anything it has smoother bokeh than the Sony Zeiss 55mm with subjects up to 1.5m away, between 1.5-3m distance the bokeh flips to be busier

0 upvotes
samhain

What does the zeiss 135mm have to do with this sigma review?
I owned the 135mm, it's one of the best af portrait lenses ever made.
But... Comparing it to a 50mm is Apple's to oranges. Might as well compare the Nikon 24mm g to the Canon 85mm 1.2 while you're at it.
Way off topic.

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ageha

Yup, throwing the CZ 135/1.8 in here is pointless. If I'm looking for a 50mm I don't care about 135mm.

2 upvotes
solomonshv

why would you compare a 135mm lens to a 50mm?

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Ralf B

I brought the 135mm in for what I wrote: There is the possibility to combine sharpness and pleasing bokeh, and if you look for that, the Sigma ART 50/1.4 fails at that.
I hope that clarifies the "pointless" point.

0 upvotes
ageha

Nope but who cares...

0 upvotes
Under The Sun

Yep different focal lengths for different applications.

0 upvotes
Reilly Diefenbach

I guess I just don't get the point of an expensive, heavy, bulky 1.4 lens if the bokeh is as hideous as what I'm seeing on these DPR sample shots. The chap with the bridge behind him is a truly ugly, discombobulated looking shot, to single out one.

7 upvotes
ageha

Would be nice if people would post examples how it should look like. :)

9 upvotes
0MitchAG

http://g4.img-dpreview.com/B771FDB3A5C14612B4F9E59DDC4BD5F1.jpg

I have to agree with Reilly.

3 upvotes
badi

The bokeh is just a matter a taste after all, but most of the people agree that smooth color transition in out of focus areas is what makes a "nice bokeh".
This lens doesn't do it "so nice" but the otus doesn't either.
Anyway, depending on background (it's colors, it's "business", it's distance relative to the subject, etc) all lenses make both "nice" and "bad" bokeh.

Just some lenses are generally better for bokeh (nikon 58/1.4, canon 50/1.2) others are better for sharpness the sigma, the otus. It's hard to have everything on one lens.

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Higuel

Yes indeed Badi! Zeiss even mentioned already LOOOONG time ago that one of it's 50mm was NOT as Sharp wide open PRECISELY to get a better rendering of the out of focus áreas!
It is information available on the net for those who prefer to find it instead of looking for some bad photos! But i have already understood what is the reality of 60% of all the coments in here :/

0 upvotes
jadmaister2

kudos for 'discombobulated'...top word.
kick in the pants for your point however since, not everyone wants or needs pretty, de-focussed areas, and if you read the whole article, you can find Sigma hinting about future releases with different design motivations (the bit about the date imprint under the lens). Maybe the 15 or 16 will have the pretty blurs you need?

0 upvotes
sgoldswo

The bokeh is busy at longer focus distances, but it's very nice at shorter focus distances.

1 upvote
The Lotus Eater

"Just some lenses are generally better for bokeh (nikon 58/1.4, canon 50/1.2)".

I don't get the Canon 50/1.2. It isn't sharp and its bokeh is pretty ugly in many situations - especially that nasty swirly stuff.

2 upvotes
mujana

This lens looks perfect! Too bad it isn't available for m4/3rds. I guess I have to stick to the 75mm/1.8 and the 45mm/1.8 Zuiko for portraiture...(not a real problem by the way)

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Jonathan F/2

Why would you want it for m43? The lens is made for FF and it'd be a waste of glass to use it on that sensor size. You'd be better off with the Panasonic Nocticron 42.5mm 1.2 lens or the 25mm 1.4 lens if you wanted the 50mm FOV.

Though it'd be nice if Sigma made fast glass for mirrorless.

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mujana

That's what I mean...." it would be nice if Sigma made fast glas for mirrorles" ....high quality fast glass.

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2 upvotes
quangzizi

The 25 1.4 is really good or you can get the 25 0.95, 25 1.8. In any case, I don't think it makes sense for them to enter that focal length anymore.

1 upvote
BarnET

like those above said i don't see an weakness in m43 within these focal lengths. many overlapping options at various price points.

most of them are also very high regarded.

I think sigma should make a m43 lens though.
what about an 12-50 f2.8-4 for 400$:D that would make my day!

0 upvotes
Paul Ennis

Thank god we have Sigma providing completion to the big boys. I have the 35mm Art, and I love it. Great to have a company who appear to be on the photographers side.

8 upvotes
Albert Ang

Andy Westlake / Admin,
In page 1 you mentioned the weight is 665 g but on second page it's 815g. Which one is correct? Thanks

3 upvotes
Andy Westlake

815g is correct. I've corrected page 1, sorry for the confusion. (I've corrected the other error in that spec table, too.)

3 upvotes
Zeisschen

815g seriously? How can Sony pull the same performance out of the 280g FE 55 1.8?

Year I know it's half a stop slower, but damn impressive for the small weight. And the Zeiss bokeh is much better...

4 upvotes
Andy Westlake

The FE 55mm F1.8 benefits from two things: 1) the short back focus of the E mount, and 2) being 2/3 stop slower. This means that it needs to use much less glass (it's a 7 element / 5 group design vs the Sigma's 13 element / 8 group), so can be substantially lighter.

A better Sony comparison would be with the [Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm F1.4 SSM](http://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/lenses/sony_50_1p4_za_ssm), which also has to fit on SLRs, and weighs 518g for an 8 element / 5 group design.

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joelR42

But it's not really 2/3 stops slower. Your review states T1.7 vs T1.8.

2 upvotes
Just another Canon shooter

Your bokeh test is useless - background well separated from the foreground or closeups. The problems usually are in the transition area. Some lenses, like the S35 are particularly bad there.

You could have included this shot: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/2897503/f1-4_01img_5736?inalbum=sigma-50mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-canon-preview-samples
in the bokeh section, and compared it to the Nikon and the Canon.

I have the feeling that you know more than you say but you do not want to be more critical. You mention AF problems with cheap bodies and off center AF points and then dismiss it - who really used that lens on cheap bodies? How about off center focusing with the 5D3 and the D800?

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ageha

Yeah, the hokey could be better. Well, at least the lens is sharp even wide open.

0 upvotes
ProfHankD

Nikon and Sony have higher-resolution sensors (36MP). I think that's more appropriate for testing this type of lens than a 22MP Canon, which it basically outresolves. There are quite a few lenses that do really well at 24MP FF, but this SIgma is one of the few that seems to be ready for 36MP FF and beyond.

Incidentally, undercorrected SA is the standard way to get nice bokeh; it's good to see Sigma getting nice bokeh without the SA most fast 50s deliberately have....

9 upvotes
Stu 5

Have you not been reading the threads? The Nikon version was not available when they did the test report. They will look at that one when it becomes available on a D800e.

2 upvotes
ProfHankD

If the product isn't yet available even as a pre-release to the press, what's the rush to review it? There are lots of worthy bits of equipment that are on the market for 6+ months before DPReview takes a first look. If DPReview didn't want to wait, they could simply have added a quick test of the Canon-mount lens on a Sony A7R (which is a combo plenty of people will care about).

2 upvotes
Stu 5

Why on earth would they want to do that. How many people are going to buy an adapted Sigma 50mm f1.4 instead of a Sony 55mm f1.8 to put onto a A7r. More people will buy this lens to use on a Canon full frame than a Sony A7r. The difference in user base size is huge. Lots of people will buy this lens to use on Canon cameras so it was only fair to review it on a Canon camera.

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ProfHankD

DPReview basically says they can't tell how good the lens is using current Canons because it's sensor limited -- it probably will not be on future Canons, or on a Sony A7R right now. It would be a better test even if nobody would use it on an A7R.

The Sony native lens may well be better than this Sigma. Your argument is essentially that there are enough Canon users suffering Canon's inferior optics so that testing this lens just for them is top priority. That is not an argument I've heard a Canon user give before.... ;-)

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Stu 5

What are you going on about. The lens came out first for Canon. There are lots of Canon users. Sigma know this. DPR know this. Therefore it gets tested on a Canon camera. It's that simple.

DPR have said they will test it on a Nikon D800E when it becomes available. If your in to DXO reviews and think they are the best thing in the world, you will know the sensor tested higher than the A7r so it makes to test it on the D800E with it's native mount. On the A7r you would have to use an adaptor which could effect the optical quality slightly compared to the D800E where no adaptor will be involved. The Nikon D800E also does not use compressed Raw files.

But you want it tested on a camera hardly anyone is likely to use with the lens as a first priority before it gets tested on native mount cameras it was designed for. Really?

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ShootMeAlready

Hmmm you imply that a 36MP is better to test than a 22MP. The 36MP is better if you need a bigger picture. Resolution of a 22MP camera can beat a 36MP. You are talking as if all 36MP are even used??? I have to be a bit brutal here - Wake up ! The 36MP is tech hype, its not fully used and only sampled. Algorithms pick and choose what data is used. Resolution is tied to the IQ of the glass, and characteristics of the sensor & camera peformance.

In short test on either a 22MP or 36MP, it makes no difference to evaluate the IQ of the glass.

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fad

The Otus is not for you. Even understanding it is not for you.

But it is for him:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=90228.0

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cgarrard

Gotta say I like how Sigma is turning the corner for the better. It's refreshing to see a company change for the better when so many turn for the worse ;).

I just bought the new 18-250mm DC HSM and love it, didn't think I'd say that about a Sigma lens again in my life.

8 upvotes
nathantw

There's always one person who will say the sample pictures look soft. I'm waiting for that person to post.

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cgarrard

The sample pictures look soft.

Just kidding.

4 upvotes
beavertown

It is almost half price of the Nikon 58mm f1.4 and a lot cheaper than the Carl Zeiss 50mm.

It's a pro, not a con for its price.

This lens is not in the same class of the Nikon 50mm f1.4, it is a much more superior lens.

4 upvotes
ageha

Really? Who would have thought...

0 upvotes
beavertown
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HowaboutRAW

beavertown:

Except the Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 is about 725usd.

You mean the 55mm Otus, I'd guess.

There's also a Zeiss Macro 50mm f/2.0, but not twice the price of this Sigma.

0 upvotes
EvokeEmotion

"We've already published lab test data showing that its optically excellent"

It's, as in 'it is', not its.

Hiring proofreader? I'm in Seattle.

13 upvotes
Andy Westlake

Thanks for pointing that out, I've corrected it. (No need to hire a proofreader when you're so keen to offer your services for free...)

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RStyga

Sigma has done it again. A magnificent lens, it seems to be. The proclamation by the reviewer reminded me of the same proclamation by Popular Photography & Imaging about the tiny and feather-weight (albeit much darker) Voigtlander Heliar 50/3.5.

2 upvotes
thejohnnerparty

I am surprised that more people aren't talking about the pics. To me they look great. I used to shoot a lot with a 50 mm and never got the kind of image quality that I've seen in the samples. For my taste, it looks like a winner.
;-)

2 upvotes
eyeswideshut

I really don't know what to admire more. Someone who - one hundred years ago - achieved roughly similar performance with four lenses in three groups at F/2.8 or a corporation which - a century later - achieves marginally better performance corner to corner with the aid of cad/cam and thirteen lenses in four groups at a whopping 800g and a thousand dollars.

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Henderson May

So? even if you are correct about the "roughly similar performance" can you really compare a f1.4 lens with a f2.8 lens?
BTW canon 18-55 is better then 24-105 at f8 as well accroding to DRTV :-)

3 upvotes
ageha

Which lens are you talking about?

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zxaar

@ Henderson May , if he has to be correct, that would mean that in last 100 years there was no-one whom it occurred that that design is the best we could do so far. All this development so far basically just did not happen.

0 upvotes
eyeswideshut

@ageha
The Tessar.

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simpleshot

Good job by Sigma.
Aside from the size and weight, there is very little fault to find in this lens.
If you like, you can pay 4 times more for the Otus. With that additional money, you also get a bigger lens, more weight, more vignetting, more distortion, and less contrast. Hmmn, something is not right.

0 upvotes
Robert Newman

50mm is a focal length that most professional photographers seldom use. Regardless of its optical merits, it is just not something I would ever consider buying especially at the price point at which it is being introduced.

7 upvotes
Enshong

Depends on which professional photographer you're asking.

6 upvotes
AlexClickButan

That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

21 upvotes
ageha

Exactly, 50mm is neither here nor there. Anyway, it's a great lens but I would prefer the lighter 58mm F1.4 Nikon.

0 upvotes
dpmily

I'm looking forward to a future 85mm 1.4 ART. 50mm is a focal a rarely use. I love the 35mm ART but I will just stick with my manual focus Nikkor AI-S 50mm 1.4

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The Name is Bond

hmmm, I hate to say it but the bokeh isn't good enough. It's really not smooth at all, despite the review's claim that it's good enough. Even closed down (which usually deals with bokeh issues).

Maybe it's good enough for closer pics, but we have here the usual bokeh-clueless pics from dpreview. Easy bokeh backgrounds (flowers and vegetation) with just a couple of pics that demonstrate the rough bokeh. They need to get themselves someone long versed in bokeh analysis. .....Like me!!! :)

Get that lens in to a bike shop, dpreview.

Anyway, I actually feel a bit sad. I was totally over excited at the review. ...until I saw the pics (and some pics on the blogs mentioned in the comments).

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Michel F

Same thing here. It's definitely sharper than the old version at the expense of bokeh smoothness.

3 upvotes
DStudio

You don't hate to say it, and it's not hard to see for someone who looks for it. That's the sad part.

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ulfie

Size-wise, it's a dang blunderbuss! Kind of negates its low-light, f1.4 shooting abilities if camera shake adds blur due to its size/length, no?

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The Name is Bond

Unless you're very weak, the weight should negate camera-shake, in theory.

I love the idea of weight due to excessively fine correction and the best glass. And I love dense cameras also. But I can imagine the two together may not be so practical for 16 hours of wedding photography.

1 upvote
ulfie

Weight alone doesn't negate hand-held camera shake. On a tripod, of course. It is LONG, 100mm/4 inches. Add the body size too and hand-holding steadily at low shutter speeds is dicey for sure.

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KentG

It is actually easier to hold a heavier item steady than a lighter one when you need to point it at something. Just ask any professional shooter. Lighter weight is better when you need to move something you are pointing, like when panning.

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ulfie

It's not just weight but length of the lens too. Even a little movement is multiplied by its longer length.

0 upvotes
Rod McD

Now we need Sigma to build some wide-angle lenses to the same standard. Zeiss need some competition for the 21mm 2.8.

0 upvotes
Henderson May

look forward to see the 24/1.4 ART

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ondrejbobek

Fantastic piece of glass! I have already 35/f1,4 Art and after this good review will wait for 85/1,4 Art with lot of enthusiasm. Sigma has changed the game.

1 upvote
ondrejbobek

In Slovakia is this lens for 750€ = £610, this price is extrem low compared to Zeiss Otus, Canon 50/1,2L, Nikon 58/1,4 or Sony 55/1,8

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nguyentungstyle

this sigma 50mm art lens is only 870usd in Vietnam, full support form brand, not black market ;)

0 upvotes
Scorpius1

The fact we even compare Sigma to Zeiss now shows how far Sigma have come!!Well done Sigma,

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futile32

Loving these Art series lenses. Awesome work Sigma, seeing rumours of the 24mm and 85mm on the horizon. What a collection that will be. Hope they release a limited edition box set. Awesome!

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ageha

Oh no, please no limited editions ever!

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imsabbel

Maybe a rosewood grip would make those lenses even more desirable...

4 upvotes
ageha

I'm more looking forward to a lighter and more fall proof polyvinyl carbonate version at 2/3 the price. :)

1 upvote
Mike Griffin

Agree. Original equipment manufacturers, Canon, Nikon etc should be challenged to match or improve on Sigma's lead to benefit us all.

0 upvotes
km25

Weather seal would make it prefect. Hay this lens is made in Japan? Canon and Nikon better wake up. Simga will be their lens maker. This lens for real world use has few piers.

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richshep

This may or may not be the sharpest 50mm lens but here's the killer: It doesn't matter because 99.9% viewers of the pix taken with it won't even notice and you could have just bought a 50mm 1.8 instead.

2 upvotes
sgoldswo

Rather than posting this half-heartedly in a reply... If people are interested I put together some thoughts about this lens mounted on a D800E on my blog: http://wp.me/p2wMAg-Bf

8 upvotes
Coliban

@sgoldswo

thank you for the review. BTW, nice site, i bookmarked it.

regards

1 upvote
sgoldswo

@Coliban, thank you and glad you liked the website

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Joel Benford

Thanks, excellent commentary. I used to take street candids around there back in my film SLR days. I like your shots.
The three dimensionality on the pic of the Millenium Bridge is remarkable. I don't think I've seen anything like that.

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mike earussi

I commend Sigma for completely changing their design philosophy. Once known as one of the worse lens manufactures only a few years ago (to the point where Lens Rentals quit carrying their lenses due to so much mechanical failure) they now are producing some of the best lenses around. Only time will tell how durable they are, but hopefully they will prove to be as good mechanically as they are optically.

10 upvotes
PorscheDoc

I agree and plan to buy my first Sigma lenses in almost 20 years. My first Sigma zoom lens purchased in the early 1990's fell apart: the lens elements fell out into my hand because they were held in place by double-sided metallic sticky tape!!! This fiasco was also noted in several websites at the time, most notably IIRC, it also happened to the founder of photo.net.

0 upvotes
Niala2

Zeiss Macro 50mm f2 is systematically forgotten on the web..
(makes me crazy lol. Same with the Sigma 70 makro)
I don't care about the macro.
If You can accept its absence of AF,
and will use f2 until f11 really full-frame without missing wider aperture,
then this lens is the only one (next to Otus and indeed the Art 50) worth mentioning. (Alll the other 50mm are a shame -except Leitz and the Sony's 7's 50 - including the TS-E 45, canon 50mm f 1.2, ...)

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sgoldswo

The problem with using the Makro planar for general photography is the long focus throw and extension of the lens. Get past that and it produces lovely pictures. For most manual focus uses though I prefer the Nikkor F1.2 AiS 50mm. It's lower contrast which can result in washed out landscapes in bright sun, but on people or close subjects its great from about F2 onwards.

1 upvote
mlewan

I'm also surprised that the Zeiss 50mm f2 is mentioned so rarely. It is the lens I use most. But "the only one (next to Otus and indeed the Art 50) worth mentioning"... Without sources, I take that as just your own opinion. And do you limit the statement to Canon? And only 50mm?

1 upvote
stevo23

Go Sigma!

1 upvote
Dr_Jon

My one concern about this lens is too many people are complaining about AF issues. Is it possible to test it on as many Canon bodies as possible and report what you see? (Canon bodies as you have a Canon version.)

As someone else said, it doesn't matter how sharp it is if it misses focus...

E.g. http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-50mm-f-1.4-DG-HSM-Art-Lens.aspx
"The bottom line is that, the longer I focus tested this lens, the less sure I was about its focus accuracy.
... (a bit removed as I was over the character limit for a post) ...
What I learned from the many hours (actually extended into days) spent shooting and analyzing thousands of images is that the 50 Art lens' AF cannot be completely counted on. Sometimes, most images are properly focused and when my shots counted, this lens delivered. But sometimes, more images are out of focus than I am comfortable with."

I trust Brian to have an objective opinion BTW.

0 upvotes
Dr_Jon

I don't however trust me to spell Bryan correctly :-(

0 upvotes
mike earussi

That's what the USB Dock is for, to fine tune AF to your specific camera body. The tester may not have done this.

1 upvote
Andy Westlake

I've nothing more really to add than I wrote in the review. I was very confident with the lens's focus accuracy using centre point in the EOS 6D. I wasn't remotely confident it would hit focus perfectly on the 100D. The 70D was somewhere in between. Off-centre AF points seemed less reliable than centre AF points, which tends to be the case with SLRs.

Both of Canon's Live View AF methods, in contrast, were absolutely reliable as always. However the 100D's Hybrid AF isn't really fast enough to be generally useful with non-STM lenses. The 70D's Dual Pixel AF gives decent speed and accuracy, but has other operational flaws.

1 upvote
Lassoni

@mike you see, that kind is the issue. Why would you want to add a USB fine tuning dock, unless it is to release products which go thru less QC? They don't do these decisions out of good will.

0 upvotes
Dr_Jon

Mike - I don't think so, as he says he gets sharp photos a lot of the time, so I can't see it's a fine-tuning issue as if it was wrong in a way fine-tuning could fix it would be wrong more consistently.

Andy - okay, that will do for me as an answer, although 5DmkII/III results would have been great. Oh, except were there any 70D issues that are specific to this lens?

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Andy Westlake

@Lassoni: I'd suggest reading up on what the USB Dock offers before drawing conclusions about 'less QC'. It allows both more detailed AF Fine Tune than any camera, and the ability to update the lens's firmware.

Like it or not, SLR PDAF systems normally require some AF fine tuning to match a fast lens to a camera. This isn't about QC, but about the aggregation of tolerances, and the fact that SLR focus sensors aren't directly measuring correct focus at all - just determining a more-or-less accurate proxy for it. It's also worth considering that while high-end SLRs tend to have quite sophisticated AF tuning built-in, entry-level SLRs don't. This doesn't imply that the cheaper cameras have better QC.

4 upvotes
sgoldswo

The AF issues I had resulted from differing levels of front focus at different focal lengths. Thankfully with the USB Dock you can adjust focus selectively to address this. In practice that resulted in some shots in focus, some out, some hunting for focus. However, it's now resolved.

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mike earussi

No AF system is perfect. Each camera body is unique since there is always a certain amount of tolerance in its construction (see Lens Rental's series of articles if you're not familiar with this topic--http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/07/autofocus-reality-part-1-center-point-single-shot-accuracy).

That's why Sigma's AF Dock is so useful, it enables these variables to be corrected for on a body by body basis. An interesting test would be to compare Canon's 50 f1.4 to Sigma's for AF accuracy after the Sigma has been calibrated using the Dock.

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Andy Westlake

@Dr_Jon: I didn't see any 70D-specific issues, but then again I only shot a couple of hundred images on the 70D.

The variation between reports simply reflects that different reviewers test different copies of the lenses on different camera bodies with different shooting habits. I used two copies of the lens (one in Seattle, another in London), and both were excellent. But a fractionally decentered or tilted lens wouldn't work as well.

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The Name is Bond

With modern high MP cameras, AF tuning is pretty much a must. The USB dock reflects the reality of up-to-date DSLR AF. If high MP DSLR is what you want, then the USB dock is the logical tool. It shouldn't really be considered optional (or a kludge fix).

This isn't an issue for CDAF (ie, mirrorless) since the AF is not subject to tolerances like PDAF. But until CDAF beats PDAF for performance, that's the way it is with such high MP cameras.

0 upvotes
Rooru S

Will wait until they test the 50mm Art on the D800E and then make a comparison against the Zeiss Otus 55 and Sony Zeiss 55 FE.

1 upvote
Ben Ramsey

Or just get the lens you like for the system you have and use it.

4 upvotes
sgoldswo

It's very, very sharp with extremely impressive local/micro contrast on the D800E. It reminds me of something like a Leica summicron or Zeiss planar 50mm.

I posted some thoughts on the Sigma mounted on the D800E on my blog, www.sgoldswoblog.com

2 upvotes
MX2010

What is really desirable is the low light AF performance. Is there any info on that? I Am very tempted replace my nikon 50/1.4G.

0 upvotes
Absolutic

so Andy you are concluding it is the best AF 50mm lens currently on the market. Are you saying it is better than Sony Zeiss 55 FE lens for E mount, that is half the weight, and the price is the same? You mention the 55FE but does not talk about it in your conclusion. I know it is comparing F/1.8 to F/1.4 which is half-stop in difference but nevertheless, which one is better? DXO said at the time that 55FE is the best AF lens they have ever tested.

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viking79

Comparing the results of the FE 55mm f/1.8 and the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 is notably better in the corners through f/5.6 or so and can't say about the center since the Canon is too low resolution. Need to see the Sigma tested on the D800E to compare with A7R, but it is clear corners are better on this Sigma than on the FE 55mm (not that they are bad on the FE 55mm).

The best just got better? It is something that happens all the time in this field.

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5 upvotes
forpetessake

The DXOmark measurements show that Sony FE 55/1.8 is slightly ahead. And even the transmission on both lenses is almost the same, Sony is T/1.8 lens and Sigma is T/1.7 (only 12% brighter). But Sigma is 3 times heavier -- FAIL.

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Andy Westlake

I'd say that the FE 55/1.8 and the Sigma 50/1.4 are so close that it's impossible to call one 'better' than the other. In practice, you choose between them based on which fits your camera; if you own an SLR, the Sigma will fit and the Sony won't. If you own an Alpha 7, you buy the Sony, as it'll fit directly and focus better. Given this I don't really understand why one should be declared the 'winner'; just accept they're both stunning lenses and be happy they're available for photographers to buy. (Unless of course you're more interested in petty point-scoring than actual photography.)

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sgoldswo

I own both lenses which I use on a D800E and a A7r. Both are very sharp, but the Sigma has exceptional sharpness stopped down, of the sort I've only really seen from rangefinder lenses like the Zeiss Planar 50mm. It's more consistently sharp across the frame at wider apertures too. The Sigma's weaknesses are AF performance (mine needed to be corrected via the USB Dock for front focus) and bokeh at distances greater that 1.5 to 3m, which can be quite busy/nervous. The zeiss has nicer bokeh and is a lot smaller.

Optically, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sigma rates comparably or better than the Otus, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it rates higher than the Zeiss FE. All three are great lenses, but the world moves on.

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Higuel

EXTREMELY well said Andy Westlake! :)

1 upvote
Absolutic

Thanks Andy for your reply. Also sgoldswo your opinion is important because you own a Nikon version of Sigma and 55FE on A7r.

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake

@Absolutic: Sorry if my response came across as a bit harsh - sometimes it's difficult to separate genuine questions from those simply designed to establish some sort of brand superiority. If you're shooting with an A7R, then I accept it's entirely legitimate to ask which of these has better optics, as you could conceivably use either. But personally I'd choose the Sony FE for practicality.

2 upvotes
Higuel

Andy, my respect for you just got bigger!

Sincerely.

Henrique

0 upvotes
Absolutic

Actually Andy I shoot several brands of cameras (which I think many people on these boards also do) including Sony, Nikon (sometimes Canon) and Fuji. Sony A7/A7r is often a second camera for many as a mirrorless 'light and small' choice when they don't want to carry their DSLR equipment. In fact many Sony A7 owners own other gear from other mfrs judging from their signatures on this forum and others. The question of whether to pick a 55FE for Sony A7r, or to pick a Sigma 50/1.4 for Nikon/Canon (price being practically the same for the two) is a legitimate one for someone who shoots both DSLRs and mirrorless, and wants the best autofocus 50 possible.

0 upvotes
nikon power

Carl Zeiss to Sigma is Mercedes to Volkswagen. I'd go for the name, Mercedes, if I got the money.

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0 upvotes
pako

well, your VW is priced 949$ and the Mercedes only 998$

4 upvotes
RonGreer
1 upvote
Klarth

Thanks, Captain Obvious

0 upvotes
LarryK

The car doesn't do the driving.

2 upvotes
Lassoni

not yet atleast

1 upvote
pako

I believe the Sony Zeiss FE 55 f1.8 is the best 50mm...
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sigma-50mm-F14-DG-HSM-A-Canon-on-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Distagon-T-STAR-Otus-55mm-F14-ZE-Canon-on-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-versus-Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18___1306_795_1241_795_1252_0

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Mr Blah

That was a comparison on completely different cameras, though. Compare the Sony FE 55f1.8 on the A7R with the Zeiss Otus on the Nikon D800E (they have the same sensor) and you'll see that the Zeiss out resolves (and has less distortion, etc.) the Sony.

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pako

nothing to blush about (specially if you take in account the price tag of the Otus)
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-FE-Carl-Zeiss-Sonnar-T-STAR-55mm-F18-on-Sony-A7R-versus-Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Distagon-T-STAR-Otus-55mm-F14-ZF2-Nikon-versus-50mm-F1.4-EX-DG-HSM-Nikon-on-Nikon-D800E___1252_917_1242_0_202_814

0 upvotes
Emacs23

You chose D800 instead of D800E for Otus. And used old sigma 50 instead of new 50 art.

0 upvotes
pako

You right. there is no test available for the A lens on Nikon mount. There is no real way to compare this 3 lenses. Probably the Sigma and FE Zeiss on the A7R -but DXO won't do that. Anyways, the otus is 3000+ $ and the FE a little less than 1000 $; and the otus doesn't perform 3 times better...

0 upvotes
marc petzold

As other reviews already stated, this new 50/1.4 Art Sigma comes very close to the Zeiss Otus, but for only 1/4 of the price. Superb work for Sigma, since the 35/1.8, Sigma is really on fire with their latest Art lens creations - which is a way good thing, competition leads to much better products, the Art 18-35/1.8 is also outstanding in optical quality terms. I expect no less from Sigma with their 24/1.4 when it'll be released this fall, and the 85/1.4 which is rumored for 2015 must be very good then, too.

Go Sigma, go! Hopefully Canikon would improve their upcoming lens iterations, too.

I've got the 30/1.4 Art for my D90/D7000, and being happy with that prime lens.

5 upvotes
Marksphoto

If sigma is going to start making better lenses than brand names will, will have to risk incompatibility issues in the future as Canon likes to play the incompatibility games as I have already learned first hand.

Sure buy this lens for today, but no guarantees it will work on the 5d mk4 or 5.

I'll stick to Brand name lenses myself, the 50mm 1.8 is light weight, tack sharp and cheap, If I need more light I will bump ISO up marginally - not that I ever use 50mm lenses - just thinking outloud...

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SushiEater

Hence USB dock. It already happened with Nikon version of 35mm and FW fixed it. I am not worried at all.

11 upvotes
wetsleet

re: the incompatibility games
The Brands (as you refer to them, but I guess Sigma is a brand too?) will find their reputation in tatters if their lenses are seen to rely less on their outright quality and more on "incompatibility" protectionism to earn their keep.
Maybe even (long shot) the EU or similar will weigh in and force the camera brands to publish their interfaces, a bit like Windows (I think?) is obliged to, so that all parties can play in the park.

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Bhima78

There is literally no comparison between the canon 50mm 1.8 and this lens except for that they are both 50mm and have similar f-stop numbers. The IQ of this Sigma is magnitudes better than the Canon 1.8. The Canon is great for its price and is light weight but it is not a stellar performer in IQ if you are looking for a higher level of IQ and are willing to pay for it.

2 upvotes
skanter

Maybe, but this lens will not make a bad photographer good or a good photographer any better. It's only 100% crop pixel-peeping that make these expensive lenses relevant for enthusiasts. For pros, every tiny bit of quality that can be eeked out might give them an edge, so they should consider lenses like this.

0 upvotes
SushiEater

@wetsleet
There is a big difference between MS Windows and camera Brands. MS wants all the software to run well on Windows. Otherwise they will go out of business. Camera makers only want their lenses and accessories to run well. They simply don't care about third parties. That is why Sigma made revolutionary step towards compatibility with the ability to upgrade FW without sending lens in for re-chipping and in the process gave us ability to adjust focusing at different FLs.

1 upvote
viking79

This lens shows a perfect example of design trade-offs in lenses. Want a nice sharp wide open 50mm with large aperture and minimal distortion? It will cost you in size, weight, and price.

The old(er) Sigma 50mm f/1.4 is half the price, but also not as good. I imagine plenty good for most, but if you want max wide open performance this new Sigma looks great.

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JF69

It will cost you in size, weight, price……& bokeh. Since it's corrected for Spherical Aberration, bokeh will be "ugly" by design. Like all lenses it's a tradeoff, a design choice.
Kudos to Sigma for producing such fine lenses in its "Art" range.

2 upvotes
viking79

I find spherical aberrations make bokeh worse (bright rings on specular highlights), which is why most f/1.4 lenses look a lot better at f/2 because the spherical aberration has started to clear up. Here is a sample, not bad: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/2897523/?inAlbum=sigma-50mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-canon-preview-samples

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Just another Canon shooter

The bright rings on lenses with uncorrected spherical aberrations appear in objects in the foreground, not in the background. Since we usually care more about the background, then the bokeh is smoother because of the spherical aberrations. Corrected or overcorrected lenses make the background bokeh harsh, like this one:

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/2897503/f1-4_01img_5736?inalbum=sigma-50mm-f1-4-dg-hsm-art-canon-preview-samples

1 upvote
David Bourke

Not a single shot into the sun? It would be nice to see how lens lens handles flare.

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake

See the shots into the sun in the 'Flare' section of the review.

3 upvotes
chiane

Oops. Wanna get away?

1 upvote
igor_s

Low contrast at f/1.4 (not uncommon, though).

2 upvotes
ambercool

Why was the Summilux 50 f/1.4 left out?

1 upvote
coudet

They encountered trouble mounting Summilux-M on the 5D3. Wild guess, of course. ;)

18 upvotes
ambercool

Impressive answer. Well played... well played... :)

3 upvotes
quezra

Pft Summilux-M stands for Macro on Canon of course

1 upvote
photosen

Nice review, interesting lens; if Canon update theirs I'm afraid it would be hitting this price point.

0 upvotes
l_d_allan

IIRC, the upcoming Canon 50mm may have IS. To me, that will be a huge advantage over the Sigma Art and especially the manual focus Otus.

I'm really happy with my reasonably priced, reasonably sized, very sharp, quick focusing Canon EF 35mm f2 IS.

My speculation is that the price at introduction of an EF 50mm f??? IS would be relatively high, but settle down nicely within 6 months. That was the pattern with the 35mm f2 IS.

0 upvotes
JEROME NOLAS

Impressive!!!

1 upvote
Jogger

I prefer my 50 to be cheap, small, light weight and have good enough image quality.

4 upvotes
tkbslc

They have a handful of those already.

7 upvotes
fastlass

sounds like my first 3 husbands.

13 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer

Badda bing, fastlass! It may be an optical triumph but it's still a 50mm lens.

0 upvotes
photog4u

Scored 35 with Canon mount so I'm guessing 43ish on the D800E or a7R adapted to alpha mount...sweet. I just hope the new 24 1.4 is at least as good.

2 upvotes
coudet

"Large and heavy for a 50mm F1.4 prime"
"Relatively expensive for its class"

Well, they could have made it small and cheap if you were willing to accept optically poor lens. I'm not.

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3 upvotes
Wilight

"■Relatively expensive for its class". Really? Which class are you talking about? The little canikons with the same FL and maximum aperture? For me this one has nothing to do with that class. Although I'm not sure if I will buy this Sigma right now, I was afraid that this lens would have a higher price tag. So, in my opinion, the price couldn't be fairer. It's actually a little large and heavy, but still better than the (MF only) Otus in this regard. The only thing that really disappointed me is the lack of weather sealing.

4 upvotes
thinkfat

This appears to be a very positive review. At least it seems to me, because "positive" is positively used in every second or so sentence.

Regarding the lens, I'm genuinely positive.

4 upvotes
Andy Westlake

There are six instances of the word 'positive' in the review, and one of the word 'positively'. Sorry about that.

3 upvotes
Xentinus

Why sorry?If it is positive,then it is positive.

2 upvotes
thinkfat

Yes, but what is a "large, positive focus mode switch". And how does a grip provide "positive handling when changing lenses".

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake

@thinkfat: [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/positive](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/positive)

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