Palm-sized: Hands-on with new Fujifilm X-T10

"Judging by the retro styling, Fujifilm doesn't want young people buying their cameras." << And who can blame them?

I think a lot of young people would actually like this styling. It's got a lot more character than the bland, melted, smoothed-over styles of most cameras.

"Why is everyone posting about what the camera looks like? "

Because it is not like it is interesting otherwise, no new features, no new performance records, no competitive price etc.

That depends on whether you want a tool for photography or a kidicam covered in useless intrusive gimmicks. Personally I prefer the former.

@Kiril

Which camera does come with a public SDK?

Canon, Sony and Nikon certainly won't come up with it.
Magic lantern is a jailbreaked firmware not a public official SDK.

And for your information. There is an public SDK for Fuji owners.http://fujibuzz.com/fuji-guys-announce-sdk-x-t1-tethering-available/

Seems you feel threatened by new Fuji gear otherwise you wouldn't make such silly remarks.

It's interesting how all the expensive wrist watches don't offer gadgets like GPS but offer simple analogue dials.

All fair points. I like a great camera too But weirdly my wrist watch has GPS......

The thing is when iPhone was released a lot of people thought just like you - a phone is there to talk to people. Needless to say dumb phones are now almost extinct.

So going back to iPhone analogy adding API and SDK and/or working app system does not mean Fuji and/or other vendor need to mess up ergonomics like Samsung Galaxy NX. I think one of those companies can actually make iCamera - that is both pleasure to use as camera and yet offers ability to customise and integrate in other environments.

You know drone photography or drone movie making, connecting to motion sensors to take pictures of wild animals, advanced time lapse and hyper lapse. There are so many things a camera controlled by complex program can do. Given that cameras will in future be bought more by enthusiasts and pros and less by soccer moms it may be worth investing into technology that will enable the creativity of those people.

"It seems that perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove."
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Unfortunately nowadays the trend is to add which increases complexity, makes products less reliable with more bugs and makes them more complicated to use and less intuitive,
Though the latter can be mitigated to a certain extent with customisability that itself adds complexity.
Look at the number of threads on here asking questions about custom settings and button programmability.
As someone whospent most of my photographic life using manual film cameras with no auto modes, no AF, no white balance and frame rates as fast as my finger could wind on the film I sometimes crave the simplicity of concentrating on the picture rather than worrying whether I've forgotten to set or unset one of potentially hundreds of parameters.
Is it any wonder that people are turning to smartphones in their droves.

Human hands, wrists and eyes haven't changed in the past 80 years, so why change the layout of a camera?

Guess how far the layout of the keyboard you're using dates back to?

I personally prefer the X-T1 controls to modern DSLR electronic designs as you can see your main settings (shutter speed, aperture & ISO) without looking at the screen. For example, when the camera's near the ground on a tripod & direct sunlight makes it difficult to read the LCD.

Also, it's very easy to remotely trigger the shutter since you can use a standard & widely available jack plug which can easily be adapted to suit your needs. I've used mine with cheap radio remotes at over 50 metres with no problems for shots like http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9329164516/photos/3207611/moss_head_xt106639-214000

Yes, it would be nice to have this functionality built in, but it all adds cost & complexity for people that don't necessarily want it.

What is it you can't do?

Good for you!

@cameraracist - Rumour has it you're actually a crossdressing bisexual.

I don't find Sony's lens selection to be as interesting as Fuji's. I think that's been the main weakness of Sony's mirrorless system. Plus, I really like the JPEG output from Fuji's cameras. I shoot exclusive in RAW when I'm using my Canon DSLR, but with Fuji I am quite happy to shoot JPEG.

BTW, the X-T10 also has a built-in flash.

I have the a6000. You're right about the Sony lenses although the kit lens is good for the price. The weirdest thing about the a6000 is that the jpgs are really good but the raws are rubbish, showing excessive noise reduction and over-aggressive sharpening even if you turn these parameters to minimum.

Well...i wanted a small compact light gear system...the xt-1 is pretty light (still 100gr more then the Sony A6000) but the difference is lenses...the Sony lenses are extremely light compared to the Fuji's...So coming from Canon dslr gear the difference wouldn't have been that great.
Sony now has a lot of great lenses ...zeiss or not.
24M/pixels...excellent Raw results...REAL great high iso (fuji cheat ).
I think people who love the Fuji have never had a Sony A6000 in hand and actually tried it.I've tried both for a month.

Sony's lenses are lighter than Fuji's, true, but also consistently slower by 1-2/3 stops. This extends to the FF lineup by the way, which mostly negates the advantage in light gathering and DoF of the A7's sensor...

Going to the dentist and then to the proctologist is more fun than using a sony camera. My main camera is an A7r, so that comes from a place of experience.

Why, as a photographer, would you want "attention"? I want as little attention as I can get when I'm out shooting.

Nah. Works fine for all the other cameras, so I'll stick with it.

"Am I out of touch?"
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"No, it's Fuji who is wrong."

Could it be World Press photos are taken mostly with Canikon because Canikon have the most global market share and are the only systems those pros have known for the past 20 years? It's in fact rather telling that Sony and Olympus are starting to gain traction within this user base. They are a lot more present in contests here in dpreview.

@photogeek. But it doesn't work fine with all camera. Like film developers, you don't use the same chemistry for every film. There is a difference in files from every manufacturer when processed with LR, PN, C1, RT, DxO, etc. Your comments of how how it works fine shows you meed to get out a little bit more...because you are not getting it.

I agree only with the bayer comment, otherwise this looks like a nice camera.

They have a good range of lenses (better than many) and nice cameras, so I'm not sure market share matters as long as they look like continuing in the business.
Canon sell about the same number of mirrorless cameras as Panasonic, but I'm not planning to change the GH4 for a M3.

I think Fuji has built a great little system and like their designs. I just think it would be a waste of money and effort to develop a FF system that (lets be honest) would have a tiny market share and could never be profitable.
Most FF users are more likely to require a comprehensive lens range, Professional support if Pro etc. and would not change to Fuji when there is so much more available from Canikon (and even Minolta/Sony).
So that leaves a subset of Fuji users and the few that would migrate from m43 and other systems.
The economics of developing a FF system from scratch simply don't add up when the market overall is shrinking and FF is a niche within that market with two (three? ) huge players already with mature systems in place and a large cost to change due to proprietary lens mounts.

Unless someone works out a way of making very very fast lenses (f0.7 and less) then larger sensors will always have a place, as that's the only way to collect enough light to reduce the noise inherent in that light to a pleasing level. (Even with no Colour Filter over pixels and a 100% quantum efficiency.)