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I have a boxer/american bulldog (we THINK, not sure), the name of the crossbreed is bulloxer or bull boxer. My hubby worked at the humane shelter last year, and he and another puppy like him were dropped off in the country and brought to the shelter....WELL, my hubby fell in love with him and brought him home to me. And I too, fell in puppy love, immediately!! He is adorable, fawn and white with pink spots on his muzzle!! He is healthy and a year and a half old. Last July, I noticed him banging in the door so I went to look out. His head was shaking uncontrollably!! He was fully concious, and responded to me so I brought him inside. He sat down and the seizure continued, but only his head is involved. No chewing, biting, or foaming at the mouth, no loss of conciousness. It lasted a couple minutes and that was it. He was totally fine after. He slept, but nothing unusual. This happened again the other day, my husband was there. Then about 12+ hours later he had another one, that night. This one lasted longer and the other dogs knew something was wrong and were coming around to see. He growled at them and I barricaded with a chair so they couldnt get close. He is conscious and aware during this all. I got him to lie down on his side with head lying on floor, and soon it stopped. I researched online and found that this can be common in some bull breeds and even boxers. But just was called "head tremors" and not an actual seizure. It said that this does not harm the dog, and is not epilepsy.
Does anyone know anything about this? I just read on this site that it is actually a "focal seizure" and that it indicates a brain lesion.
So is this harmful or not???? Thanks
I have a boxer/american bulldog (we THINK, not sure), the name of the crossbreed is bulloxer or bull boxer. My hubby worked at the humane shelter last year, and he and another puppy like him were dropped off in the country and brought to the shelter....WELL, my hubby fell in love with him and brought him home to me. And I too, fell in puppy love, immediately!! He is adorable, fawn and white with pink spots on his muzzle!! He is healthy and a year and a half old. Last July, I noticed him banging in the door so I went to look out. His head was shaking uncontrollably!! He was fully concious, and responded to me so I brought him inside. He sat down and the seizure continued, but only his head is involved. No chewing, biting, or foaming at the mouth, no loss of conciousness. It lasted a couple minutes and that was it. He was totally fine after. He slept, but nothing unusual. This happened again the other day, my husband was there. Then about 12+ hours later he had another one, that night. This one lasted longer and the other dogs knew something was wrong and were coming around to see. He growled at them and I barricaded with a chair so they couldnt get close. He is conscious and aware during this all. I got him to lie down on his side with head lying on floor, and soon it stopped. I researched online and found that this can be common in some bull breeds and even boxers. But just was called "head tremors" and not an actual seizure. It said that this does not harm the dog, and is not epilepsy.
Does anyone know anything about this? I just read on this site that it is actually a "focal seizure" and that it indicates a brain lesion.
So is this harmful or not???? Thanks
Sounds like you've found some good information. You're right--there is a condition that is fairly common in Boxers, English bulldogs, and Dobermans called idiopathic head tremors. The dogs with this condition usually shake their heads up and down or from side to side for a few minutes then stop. They're normal both before and after the event and seem aware and responsive during the head tremors. Some of these dogs can also be distracted DURING and event by you calling their name, loud noises, etc. and stop tremoring for just a second.
There's currently no consensus on why these tremors occur or the proper treatment for them. Vets have tried anti-seizure medications because (as you stated) one theory is that these are "partial" seizures. There are mixed feelings about if dogs respond to these drugs or not. It's hard to judge because they are often so random as to when they occur.
The most important thing would be to make sure that this ISN'T some other, more serious condition. It's definitely worth a good neurological examination by your veterinarian. A dog with idiopathic head tremors should be normal on exam unless they're having an episode at that moment. Your vet may also want to run bloodwork to make sure there isn't a problem with his calcium, glucose, or other lab values (although given the long history this is less likely).
If it's truly the idiopathic head tremor condition, then it's not life-threatening--may just be annoying/concerning for you. Unfortunately the only way we can diagnose this condition is by NOT finding anything else wrong.
To answer the second response on this thread, unless the Pug had head tremors before, I'd be HIGHLY suspicious that some type of head trauma occured as a result of being hit by a car. Usually these types of changes will improve after a few weeks, but can take a few months to see how much improvement will occur. Periodic neurological examinations by your vet may be helpful to see how much permanent damage may or may not be present.
Sounds like you've found some good information. You're right--there is a condition that is fairly common in Boxers, English bulldogs, and Dobermans called idiopathic head tremors. The dogs with this condition usually shake their heads up and down or from side to side for a few minutes then stop. They're normal both before and after the event and seem aware and responsive during the head tremors. Some of these dogs can also be distracted DURING and event by you calling their name, loud noises, etc. and stop tremoring for just a second.
There's currently no consensus on why these tremors occur or the proper treatment for them. Vets have tried anti-seizure medications because (as you stated) one theory is that these are "partial" seizures. There are mixed feelings about if dogs respond to these drugs or not. It's hard to judge because they are often so random as to when they occur.
The most important thing would be to make sure that this ISN'T some other, more serious condition. It's definitely worth a good neurological examination by your veterinarian. A dog with idiopathic head tremors should be normal on exam unless they're having an episode at that moment. Your vet may also want to run bloodwork to make sure there isn't a problem with his calcium, glucose, or other lab values (although given the long history this is less likely).
If it's truly the idiopathic head tremor condition, then it's not life-threatening--may just be annoying/concerning for you. Unfortunately the only way we can diagnose this condition is by NOT finding anything else wrong.
To answer the second response on this thread, unless the Pug had head tremors before, I'd be HIGHLY suspicious that some type of head trauma occured as a result of being hit by a car. Usually these types of changes will improve after a few weeks, but can take a few months to see how much improvement will occur. Periodic neurological examinations by your vet may be helpful to see how much permanent damage may or may not be present.
I'd also be much more worried that the Pug is having true seizures and needs to be on an anti-seizure medication, at least temporarily while the brain heals. Definitely worth giving your vet a call to see what they think.
I'd also be much more worried that the Pug is having true seizures and needs to be on an anti-seizure medication, at least temporarily while the brain heals. Definitely worth giving your vet a call to see what they think.
We found that when the tremors happen, the only thing that will get rid of them is a bowl of milk and a little bit of sugar. As soon as he is done with the remedy the tremors have competently stopped, and usually go away for a while.
Please try this before you do anything else. I know it sounds crazy but it really works. It doesn't get rid of the tremors competely, but it stopped them for the time being, and I see no signs of the tremors causing long term damage. I hope this helps, I know how scary it can be. But milk and sugar works for us and our boy!!!!!!!!
We found that when the tremors happen, the only thing that will get rid of them is a bowl of milk and a little bit of sugar. As soon as he is done with the remedy the tremors have competently stopped, and usually go away for a while.
Please try this before you do anything else. I know it sounds crazy but it really works. It doesn't get rid of the tremors competely, but it stopped them for the time being, and I see no signs of the tremors causing long term damage. I hope this helps, I know how scary it can be. But milk and sugar works for us and our boy!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwsWTOLAHc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMD_wyp6-9Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwsWTOLAHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwOJNNqUmJQ
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