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Meet the Low-Key, Low-Cost Grocery Chain Being Called ‘Walmart’s Worst Nightmare’

Customers bag their own groceries at checkout counters at WinCo Foods on Fairview Avenue in Boise, Idaho, on July 1, 2013.
Joe Jaszewski / The Idaho Statesman / AP

Customers bag their own groceries at checkout counters at WinCo Foods on Fairview Avenue in Boise, Idaho, on July 1, 2013.

Retail analysts say that the world’s biggest retailer has reason to fear a small grocery chain that’s based in Idaho and boasts a business model that allows it to undercut Walmart on prices.

So about that eye-catching Walmart quote. Those are the words of Burt Flickinger III, a widely respected supermarket retailing industry expert who works for the Strategic Resource Group. Flickinger was quoted in a recent Idaho Statesman story about WinCo, a chain of roughly 100 supermarkets in the western U.S., based in Boise.

“WinCo arguably may be the best retailer in the Western U.S.,” Flickinger says while touring a WinCo store. “WinCo is really unstoppable at this point,” he goes on. “They’re Walmart’s worst nightmare.”

Flickinger isn’t the only industry insider discussing WinCo and Walmart in the same breath. “While many supermarkets strive to keep within a few percentage points of Walmart Stores’ prices, WinCo Foods often undersells the massive discount chain,” the industry publication Supermarket News explained last spring.

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How does WinCo manage to undercut Walmart on prices? And why should the world’s largest retailer have any reason to fear a small regional grocer chain that most Americans have never heard of?

First off, the reason you probably haven’t heard of WinCo is partly because at this point its stores are limited to a handful of states in the West. But WinCo is a little-known player also because the company is a privately held enterprise that seems to take its privacy seriously, preferring a low-key, low-profile approach—which is extremely rare in a world of retailers boisterously begging for shoppers’ attention.

Simply put, WinCo “communicates low prices by delivering low prices,” Jon Hauptman, a partner at Willard Bishop, a retail consulting firm, told Supermarket News. “WinCo doesn’t do much to communicate price and value. It convinces shoppers of value based on the shopping experience, rather than relying on smoke and mirrors to convince them.”

As for how WinCo can deliver such low prices, the Statesman story details the company’s history and business model. It all began, interestingly enough, when two Idaho businessmen opened a warehouse-type discount store with a name that could have been pulled from a movie slyly spoofing Walmart. Waremart, it was called. The company became employee-owned in 1985, and changed its name to WinCo (short for “Winning Company”) in 1999.

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Prices are kept low through a variety of strategies, the main one being that it often cuts out distributors and other middle men and buys many goods directly from farms and factories. WinCo also trims costs by not accepting credit cards and by asking customers to bag their own groceries. Similarly to warehouse membership stores like Sam’s Club and Costco, and also to successful discount grocers with small stores like Trader Joe’s and Aldi, WinCo stores are organized and minimalist, without many frills, and without the tremendous variety of merchandise that’s become standard at most supermarkets. “Everything is neat and clean, but basic,” Hauptman told Supermarket News. “Though the stores are very large, with a lot of categories, they lack depth or breadth of variety.”

While all of these factors help WinCo compete with Walmart on price, what really might scare the world’s largest retailer is how WinCo treats its employees. In sharp contrast to Walmart, which regularly comes under fire for practices like understaffing stores to keep costs down and hiring tons of temporary workers as a means to avoid paying full-time worker benefits, WinCo has a reputation for doing right by employees. It provides health benefits to all staffers who work at least 24 hours per week. The company also has a pension, with employees getting an amount equal to 20% of their annual salary put in a plan that’s paid for by WinCo; a company spokesperson told the Idaho Statesman that more than 400 nonexecutive workers (cashiers, produce clerks, and such) currently have pensions worth over $1 million apiece.

Generally speaking, shoppers tolerate Walmart’s empty shelves and subpar customer service because the prices are so good. The fact that another retailer—even a small regional one—is able to compete and sometimes beat Walmart on prices, while also operating well-organized stores staffed by workers who enjoy their jobs, like their employer, and genuinely want the company to be successful? Well, that’s got to alarm the world’s biggest retailer, if not keep executives up at night.

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While WinCo does keep its business quiet, we do know one thing: The company is in the process of expanding to new states, with two locations opening in north Texas next year, for example. Flickinger anticipates rapid growth in the near future, with WinCo doubling in size every five to seven years going forward.

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Washington Idaho Nevada California Oregon.

Winco is great but Groc Out (Grocery Outlet) is even better. Yeah, they don't continue a lot of good items, but they have Lois Prices.

GailBrockman
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I switched to WinCo from Wal-Mart about a year ago after learning more about how poorly Wal-Mart treats their employees.  It's also been written that Wal-Mart employees are encouraged to use tax-supported medical care and food stamps.  How does it make sense to pay less for groceries and pay more taxes because Wal-Mart treats their employees so badly?  WinCo is fine for groceries and I've found other places to buy the other things that Wal-Mart sells.

DouglasReid
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WinCo doesn't just beat Wal-Mart on some prices, WinCo has a "We will not be undersold commitment" that will under-cut any competitor into the dirt.  


There's a pretty infamous story around WinCo about Capri-Sun Juice Boxes.  WinCo and Wal-Mart got into a staring contest at under-cutting eachother over the Capri-Suns, Eventually Winco was selling them for 25 cents a case, not a box, but a CASE of 4.  This is when Wal-Mart finally gave up and went back to their normal price of 1.25 a box, and Winco Slapped them back by going to 1.24 a box.  It's just how WinCo works

Comparing Wal-mart and WinCo is NOT like comparing apples to oranges.  All Grocery stores should be held to the same standards, and just because Wal-Mart sells non-groceries doesn't mean you can't compare the grocery standards.  

goodasgoldy
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I' moving back to florida from oregon and i know i'm gonna miss winco.  my husband and i refuse to shop at walmart even if it involves driving further to find what we want.  winco is often crowded, and some items we like aren't stocked but it's true the savings are substantial.

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TksABunchJohn
TksABunchJohn

In Wisconsin we have (thank goodness) Woodman's.  I'm more than willing to drive to the next town to avoid our Walmart for Woodman's.  They are employee owned, the prices are cheaper, much of their produce is local, their chicken is cheaper AND organic, and the selection is massive and impressive - there are many hard-to-find gourmet offerings.  LOVE that this is a trend sweeping the country!!

bonteheuwelkhayelitsha
bonteheuwelkhayelitsha

Walmart, Walgreens, Woolworths, Winco... why USA loves their W's (and oo's) so much?

toomany2choose
toomany2choose

We are lucky enough to have Winco in Reno and I do a major amount of my shopping there. It's a great place to shop. The lines move quickly, the employees are friendly and happy, and the prices are the best you can find anywhere. I hope they expand quickly and show the world that treating your employees well and keeping your customers happy is actually a business model that works. 

I wouldn't shop at Walmart if you paid me. Even if we didn't have Winco I'd rather pay a little more to a company who actually cares about their employees. 

RickHegdahl
RickHegdahl

This is a good attack on the "Grocery only" Walmart mini stores that have popped up in places that they never moved into before like my hometown of Bellevue, WA. They could be a great competitor to those. "F" Walmart.

JamesCorbett1
JamesCorbett1

Sam Walton copied his concepts from Meijers in Michigan and currently the co. treats its employees like thieves.  It will fail.

DuneDawggy
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Wal-mart ~ High Prices $ Low Wages 


ALWAYS

RandyMStill
RandyMStill

Great ideas!  As we shift to more service industry jobs more companies need to give ownership to employees.  Nothing is going to motivate people moreso than working for themselves and clearly the financial rewards are great.  But how you wrestle Wal Mart away from its greedy Walton family members and shareholders is anybodys guess.  But giving Wal Mart employees an alternative opportunity may be just the ticket.  I'm looking forward to Winco. 

coffeegirl
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For a business and financial writer, I'm surprised that you are comparing apples and oranges. Winco is employee owned. However you make it sound like the company is handing out benefits left and right and you are misleading in your article. Of course employees will get benefits and pensions if it is an employee owned company, that's just part of the company's business plan.

JackChoi
JackChoi

@coffeegirl What does "employee-owned" mean? If you are implying that Winco employees have greater access to company's profits than Walmart, because they "own" Winco, that implies that they actually paid some money to acquire a share in winco.

So, did the current employees have to pay upfront to become the "owner-employees"? If not, then whats the difference? Why is Winco called employee-owned and Walmart not?

TrademarkPartners
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@coffeegirl I think the article does a good job of comparing apples to oranges, and as a reader (and future WinCo shopper when they bring some to the NE) I could tell the difference. Also, not all employee-owned businesses have good benefits and pensions - it's helpful that this writer pointed out these details.

DebraMoore
DebraMoore

LOVE the Winco. Great products, happy employees. Everyone wins. Except Wal Mart. Woo hoo!

Eddie
Eddie

Sounds like Market Basket here in the northeast...the best supermarket around that some want to destroy!

www.wearemarketbasket.com

StephenHastings
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Love me my Winco. Humboldt County, CA is isolated with few choices but luckily we have Winco. I live in a small town where Safeway and Ray's are in competition to see who can have the highest prices. Even though I have to travel to Winco it is well worth the gas spent. We are not talking a few cents here we are talking SIGNIFICANT difference in prices. When family visit from Oregon they are in shock at the high prices here in our town. 

Mabell3368
Mabell3368

Those two WinCo stores opening in North Texas are not WInCo at all, but North Carolina based Fresh Markets.

ericandtammyhansen
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@Mabell3368 WinCo foods is based in Boise, ID not North Carolina and is not a part of Fresh Markets, which is a completely different store. My husband works for WinCo. WinCo is opening two stores in Texas and is completely not related to the Fresh Markets stores.  

ericandtammyhansen
ericandtammyhansen

@Mabell3368 They are both opening 2 stores near Dallas, Texas around the same time, but completely unrelated companies. :)

LindsayVanAllen
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I love Winco so much!  Best store ever!  If one comes to your town, they run amazing free deals, free hot dogs, free cereal, free bottled water, free pop.  I got $50 in free groceries when they came to Elk Grove.  Their prices are the best around.


thecrud
thecrud

As soon as they open near you hit it like a freight train fill your cart with the sales because the prices will creep up from that day forward. The prices when if first opens is for free word of mouth advertizing after that the prices will still be good but not like the first month or two.

ericandtammyhansen
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@thecrud It's called Grand Opening Sales. I'm pretty sure most stores do it. I went to a grand opening near Salt Lake a couple years ago while visiting there. There were many grand opening sales, which were labeled as such, and then most of the products were their "regular" price. They put certain products on a really low price to attract new customers when they open. I actually fail to see a problem with that. Most of the items on the grand opening were not of interest to me though. I was just impressed by all of the prices and how nice the store looked. The employees were super friendly and even asked me if I needed any help finding anything.

RandyMStill
RandyMStill

Can you blame them?  I'd be very friendly as well with a million plus in my pension!  Good for Winco!!

debian510
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So basically WinCo's edge is that it is a giant warehouse store so its operating space is no frills, they do not accept credit cards, they have no baggers or extra personnel outside those need to help keep shelves stocked and checkout counters staffed and the selection brands is very limited compared to Wal-mart, Costco, Sam's, etc and lastly they do not advertise. 





JackChoi
JackChoi

@debian510 Thank you! I was reading through the whole article trying to get to the gist. You have summarized perfectly.

ericandtammyhansen
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@debian510 Well, WinCo is not a member only store, unlike Costco, Sam's, etc. I find that they have just as many brands as Walmart, in some cases more so, and have not really encountered any problems with not finding products. They do not accept credit cards, but they do accept debit cards. Again, it is about cutting costs to consumers. Allowing credit cards passes additional costs on to the consumer. (By the way, Costco does not accept credit cards either unless you have American Express.) WinCo is very customer service oriented. There are employees to assist customers. If someone needs help bagging groceries, a WinCo employee will assist them. I have seen elderly and disabled people ask for assistance with bagging and taking the groceries to their vehicles. People just have to ask. :)

slowboat42
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Not only does Winco sell brand names at par with National stores but their service is at par also.  Yes, you bag it yourself but that is a small price to pay for costs are at par or lower than Walmart and Costco.  Like most grocery stores today, they are upgrading to more healthy venues.  I especially like their large USA prawns, Nancy's dairy products, and pre-wrapped produce.  Just don't like hundreds of people handling and breathing on my lettuce.  They even have a healthier venue for bakery products in a cookie made with heart healthy ingredients called something like Papa Geekie.  

I have witnessed managers just hang around at Walmart with extremely long lines and only a few registers open.  Conversely, I have seen managers at both Costco and Winco pitch in during busy times with most registers open.  I like that attitude.  Walmart must be hiring MBA's that can't make the transition from textbook to reality.

BritishPhotoUSA
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If Walmart paid their staff enough that they could employ staff that gave a crap then Walmart would have nothing to worry about.

MiscAndrewStuff
MiscAndrewStuff

I was afraid that part of their strategy was to use minimal retail space because that seems to have been a key factor in how Walmart originally displaced all the Ames & Woolworths stores, but the narrow aisles and merchandise stacked to the ceiling made for a totally cramped and wretched shopping experience. Frankly, intensity of competition has made many things in this country an unpleasant if not downright hideous experience. Air travel is probably a good example. At least, at this point the country is full of Walmart SuperCenters and a competitor may one-day take them over but probably not downsize them.

pdxlist
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I thought WinCo stood for Washington Idaho Northern California Oregon...

CaseyTranChen
CaseyTranChen

@pdxlist It's actually Washington Idaho Nevada California Oregon. They say that is the unofficial one, especially since they have stores in Utah and coming up into Texas now.

MartinMohr
MartinMohr

I worked for Winco when we can angled our name from waremart/ cub foods to winco. We Had a employee competition to come up with a new name.

Winco stands for washington, Idaho Nevada California, Oregon. Not winning co. Most employees/ managers of Winco aren't concerned with winning just doing a great job and helping people out.

mrbomb13
mrbomb13

Even though TIME Magazine cited one industry expert for the article's title ("...Walmart's Worst Nightmare.'"), I think TIME is mistaken in thinking that Walmart has anything to fear from Winco.

To address the obvious, if Walmart were just a grocery store, than Winco might pose a potential threat in the long run.  In that case, TIME would have a valid argument.

However, as most consumers know, Walmart is far more than a competitive grocer.  It sells everything from discounted clothing, electronics, school supplies, power tools, athletic gear, etc., etc..  Selling typical grocery store items is only one facet of Walmart's diverse product offerings.  Even if Winco steals away a significant portion of the grocery profits, it will not result in a 'nightmare scenario' for Walmart.

If anything, Winco taking on Walmart is like Don Quixote charging the windmill.  While the "grocery store" brick might be dented from Winco's spear, the rest of the Walmart Windmill will remain unshaken.

evansquilt
evansquilt

@mrbomb13  - and the quality of what Wal-Mart sells is awful, the workers are treated like dirt, and the stores are grim, ugly, poorly designed, and wretched places to shop.  I had to shop there when I was working part-time, and I resented every single dime I gave to to a company so greedy for profit that most of its employees qualify for SNAP and Medicaid.


I hope Winco kicks them to the curb.

RandyMStill
RandyMStill

True it does sell those things, but many like me become discouraged looking for bigger ticket items at Wal Mart even at less busy times when not many customers are in the store.  I've visited Wal Mart locations upon their opening in the morning trying to purchase a TV or DVD player only to be totally ignored if not snubbed by the employees many of whom appear to be on a perpetual break.  I dont blame them - with what they're paid.  But things are dramatically different at Best Buy and other major retailers who understand people need good service for certain items. 

vstillwell
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@mrbomb13 I don't agree. Outside of logistics, Walmart is a poorly ran company. Nobody I know, and I"m not upper crust, likes going there. They complain about it when they have to. I do too. 

HectorZavala
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My ESOP is worth $170K after only working for winco for 6 1/2 years...and btw winco stands for the 5 states it started out of not "winning company"....Washington Idaho Nevada California and Oregon.

Deanoh
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I shop at two Winco's near my home and have not noticed subpar customer service or bare shelves.  If anything, there seems to be a surfeit of anything and everything I could want.  The stores also stock a variety of bulk items and I can get great buys on fresh vegetables for soups and salads.

People working there seem happier and even healthier than at other local outlets - and Winco's attitude toward its employees may help account for that.

NebuchadnezzarII
NebuchadnezzarII

Wonderful. Now if they can remodel our town's Winco so that it doesn't look like a dumpster....

MeredithRyan
MeredithRyan

umm, the link for the texas part of this story has NOTHING to do with WinCo. so i don't know what Mr. Tuttle is talking about.

ericandtammyhansen
ericandtammyhansen

@MeredithRyan If you read all the way down to the last paragraph, the article does mention that WinCo is bringing stores to Texas. Not very much material about WinCo...but they do mention them. :)

This is what the article stated:

"Idaho-based WinCo is bringing its large-format, low-price supermarkets to North Texas next year with stores in McKinney and Fort Worth."

WilliamPierce
WilliamPierce

Mall Fart, has more to worry about from TEXAS based grocery chain HEB.....walmarts here in san Antonio really suffer because HEB offers competitive prices, better products [especially produce], more variety and REAL customer service.....HEB has even begun to make HEBplus stores that compete with wal mart on the non grocery side....there are other warehouse type stores out there Costco for one, Winco is just grabbing that market share....with out better variety they can never be a threat to ''small shart''

chaostheory66821
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After Working at Walmart and seeing how they cut pay, cut hours, cut benefits, cut employee's, eliminated incentives such as merit raises; reduced employee stock options to just a fraction of what they used to be, undercut employee rights, instituted pay caps, trolled the profit sharing system etc.. And, all of this in a relatively short period of time, I have have to say, Walmart is the worst company that I have ever worked for. 

My feelings for them only got worse when I realized that they are now the largest receiver of government assistance in the US, because their business model forces a large portion of their employees onto public assistance. Basically the equivalent of a massive and endless government bailout for them; that allows the company to fuel its massive expansion practices and stomp out competition.

So, when I see companies like Winco - my favorite  grocery retailer when I lived out west -- that is able to fuel growth, undercut companies like Walmart and Kroger, while still managing to provide their employees with better pay, better, benefits, better retirement options, and their customers with better prices, I get excited.

Winco has my support, always has, and always will!

ericandtammyhansen
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@chaostheory66821 Thank you for sharing. I honestly don't know what we would do without our excellent benefits from WinCo. For a family of 5, we pay less than $50 a month for our entire family's health benefits...including dental and vision as well! I hope this never changes...with Obamacare, we are worried. (An entirely separate issue, I know. lol) A relative used to work for a well-known financial institution and sort-of frowned on my husband for ONLY working retail. My husband had the last "laugh" when we found out that the relative made about $20,000 less per year and couldn't even afford health insurance for her family because it would have been about $1000 a month for only 3 of them. Not to mention, she had NO retirement. My husband has a better retirement than his dad who works for the government. People can scoff all they want, but I don't know of any Walmart employees who can say the same thing. (Unless they are CEO's maybe?)  

RandyMStill
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Employee-owned businesses are hard to beat as far as employee wages and benefits for obvious reasons.  If we could only start a real trend toward more of that here it might offset the absence of union support in so much of the country.  Here in Alabama and I'm sure in other southern mainly rural states we have tons of employees all over the state in remote areas where the only chance of employment is Wal Mart who started moving in here in the 80's.  The employees have to obtain food stamp assistance and medicare just to keep the employment thus Wal Mart is subsidized by the US taxpayer to keep its low wages!  In turn most of us are red states which means our voters vote reliably for republicans who try to limit government at every opportunity while the vast majority of our poor residents are completely dependent on the government for their very survival and yet continue to vote year in and year out against their own best interests.  Of course the majority of them are dead-set against Obamacare when they are the poor souls for which the law was designed.  To me these are among the worst sins of the repulbican party that they sabotage the innocent and ignorant poor who truly dont appear to know how they're harming themselves and each other.  Its truly sad to watch . .  .