Bat Movies Part 4: The Dark Knight Trilogy

Dave Jordon on 07-23-2012 03:48 PM

Now that nolan doesn't want to do anymore, I guess that means it's either Sam Raimi, Tim Burton or Chris Columbus is going to take over the series again in about a few years time with a whole new cast!

Jonathan Y on 07-23-2012 04:18 PM

I thought the scene where the police and mercenaries clash was silly too, but I overlooked that for the imagery Nolan wanted to portray. The image of two forces clashing head-on, fighting tooth and nail, chaos and order. I know realistically everyone would be splintering and taking cover from gunfire, but I didn't care.

Bently Lyles on 07-23-2012 04:38 PM

The first film was great, the second was excellnt, and the third was very good. I hope they don't reboot the series too soon. Warner Bros. should focus on the new Superman series then try doing Flash, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman before Batman. I think WB wants to make a cinematic universe a la Marvel that leads into a Justice League. If that's their plan, they should save Batman for last before Justice League. They're probably going to do another Joker in the next series (he's such an iconic villain) but I want to see Harley Quinn in a live-action Batman film then my life would be complete!

Matthew Czajka on 07-23-2012 04:46 PM

This article was entitled "The Dark Knight Trilogy", but the author pretty much just reviewed TDKR. There was little analysis of TDK, and no mentions of Batman Begins whatsoever. Grade: D-. Assigned topic not covered. Rewrite please!

Justin Parker on 07-23-2012 04:57 PM

it seems people are comparing the dark knight rises to what their memory of the dark knight is, as
opposed to what it actually is, its like your favorite band, if your heard
music from a new band for the first time, you would never think it was as good
as your favorite band no matter if it actually was or not, especially after
only hearing it once, youd say yea they were good, but not as good as my
favorite band not even close, its just natural, same thing happens with peoples
favorite athletes, no one ever admits a new athlete can be better than their
favorite athlete from the past, and if they do it takes time, im guilty of the
same thing, so as of now i think the dark knight is better than dark knight
rises, but i have to give it time to settle first and see it again before i can
truly decide. but some of the comments accuse dark knight rises of things, and
make it seem like the dark knight didnt have the same issues, i dont even want
to do this because the dark knight is my favorite movie all time, but it had
the same flaws, some poeple are saying there are too many convenient plot holes
in the dark knight rises, ok how about in the dark knight, during the truck
chase, the truck is being followed by a helicopter and the joker has two guys
on the side of skyscrapers shoot wires across them to tangle up the helicopter,
how would they ever know the exact height the helicopter was going to be at?
they wouldnt but its a movie, how about at the end of dark knight when citizens
and jail members are stuck on two boats, if gotham is as bad as they say it is,
pure scum of a city, people are corrupt, worst criminals ever, your telling me
there isn?t one group of criminals who would try to fight to get that remote,
or some citizens who would pull that trigger, if gotham is filled with the kind
of people they say it is, but you just accept it cuz it?s a movie, or how the
jokers men could lace an entire hospital that runs 24 hours a day with endless
amounts of explosives without people noticing? It?s a hospital not an empty
warehouse, but u just accept it cuz it?s a movie, or when bruce wayne drives
his Lamborghini in between the truck that was going to ram into car carrying
simon reese or whatever his name was that was going to give away the identity
of batman, but bruce wayne got there right in the nick of time! Seems a little
ridiculous in terms of timing and coincidence, but its just a movie so u accept
it?I could go on and on,

or another time batman just happens to show up in the dark
knight, when Harvey kidnaps the mental patient dressed as a cop, and drives him
to the middle of nowhere to threaten him, batman somehow finds them in time to
catch the coin before it lands for harveys second flip? And how the hell did he
even know where they were? But it?s a movie and you accept it

people bitched about how fast two face could turn into this
horrible villain, the joker killed his girlfriend, walks into his hospital
room, Harvey wants to kill him, but then one little speech and harveys like
eureka your right, yes, I agree with u joker, guy who just killed my
girlfriend, you have completely changed my value system, no no I don?t need to
think about it, I don?t have to kill u anymore, its all chance if u live or die
no big deal, these are all things people complained about with the dark knight,
but somehow forgot about when comparing it to dark knight rises?

how could Harvey dent get half his face blown
off, his eye is hanging out unrealistically and he can look around no problem,
they state that he took no pain killing drugs but he can talk fine even though
you see the individual muscles in his mouth hanging out, no problem talking,
doesn?t appear in pain, ridiculously unrealistic, but it?s a movie so u accept
it.

how realistic is it that when joker is trying to escape the prison and the bomb goes off it kills everyone in the room but him? doesnt even knock him down, the list goes on and on and on

People are comparing the dark knight rises, to what their
general memory of the dark knight is, as opposed to what it is, I remember the
dark knight coming out, and people bitching about all these things too, at the
end of the day, the dark knight had heath ledger, and he won an oscar for it,
you werent gonna touch that from a villain standpoint, the joker is the
ultimate batman villain, regardless of heath ledgers performance, the joker is
already the ultimate villain, then on top of that u had the ultimate
performance, that aspect wasn?t going to be topped, so they escalated the movie
in other ways, the gap between the two movies is not nearly as great as a few
people make it out to be

Mike Blair on 07-23-2012 05:19 PM

The reason I like TDKR better than TDK are 1.I didn't sense any danger for Batman in TDK. 2. I had no emotions when Racheal died I really didn't care. 3. Harvey Dents turn to evil was very unconvincing. TDKR was the total opposite in that respect. I was at the edge of my seat, fearful and emotional throughout the film.

Jared Gullage on 07-23-2012 06:15 PM

Agree for the most part with this. Bruce's motivations for being interested in Catwoman doesn't quite work for me, but otherwise, the movie is quite well done. I loved how it ended the series, and I thought Bane was very interesting. I loved how he talked in stark contrast to how he behaved and what he did.

Keegan W. on 07-23-2012 06:33 PM

I would hope that no one was stupid enough to try to compete their own vision of Batman with Nolan's. Maybe someone like Fincher in twenty years could make at least ONE Batman movie that would be HALF as good as The Dark Knight. It'll be difficult to recreate characters so iconic or come up with something fresh after nine Batman movies. And I can only assume the Joker will be retired as a character as no one would want to compete with Ledger. It's possible that someone could try to reinvent the Riddler, but I have the feeling it would just come off as a poor attempt to make something Joker-ish. Godforbid a Robin movie is ever made, with or without Batman. The end of TDKR was great with Joseph Gordon Levitt, but there's no way someone could pull a whole Robin movie off. I like the way Nolan ended The Dark Knight Trilogy and hope that people agree and don't try to bring Batman back to the screen unless they're 100% SURE it will be as good as Nolan's (not likely).

Stephen Decker on 07-23-2012 06:48 PM

I think they should continue this story with the reboot for Justice League with Joseph Gordon Levitt as Batman.

Daniel Raimondi on 07-23-2012 06:59 PM

begins is still the best one

Jesse Brown on 07-23-2012 07:06 PM

I don't think anyone could top what Nolan has done with his rendition of the character. That being said, let's see a different rendition. I wouldn't mind seeing some of the comics supernatural elements come into play. You can have such villains like Man-Bat, Clayface and Killer Croc. Or something along those lines. All you need is a director to bring that vision to life. If I had to choose a director to bring a supernatural rendition to Batman movies, it would Guillermo del Toro. The man has enough respect to monsters to want to make it practical as much as he can, rather than relying on special effects.

Marco Miceli on 07-23-2012 07:46 PM

I always felt odd considering TDK the best Batman and maybe my first definitive "favorite film" because it seems so unanimous in praise I felt like every time i mentioned it to people they would roll their eyes because most people who say that would just end up talking about the "pencil scene" or some another enjoyable yet ultimately empty moment. Now that people are backing off from it I feel even more confident and sheds the dead weight fans. I could agree with people who hold the first idk 40 min of Batman Begins over TDK, but TDK is a complete film. There is a natural thrill to the entire movie. The balance of all the characters is excellent and I think people discredit much of the supporting cast even the writer of this article. It wasn't just the Joker I thought Aaron Eckhart did a really good job as Harvey Dent I was surprised how much I liked him. Gordon's story was also well told and again had an arc to it. The movie was immersive. I think of it as being in the moment of the Joker Attacks. Maybe that is mostly a memory of my first viewing, but I still hold the film above Batman Begins. It may not be as personal with Bruce Wayne, but it is a definitive film in my opinion. If people want to back off the bandwagon fine who needs them. all the better actually.

Andrew Buck on 07-23-2012 07:47 PM

Every single one of those so called plot holes has an answer if you would have paid attention to the movie.
Bruce wayne was in that hole for 4 months and spent 4 weeks getting back to gotham.
when bane takes control of the bomb he states it will take 5 months to go off.

Did you forget that relief workers were let back into gotham?

The police did not have time to plan out an attack, they knew the bomb was going to go off soon and they needed to storm banes forces to get the bomb.

the streets are clean because, if a nuke could possibly go off are you going to attack the terrorist?no fucking way, theres no way people would riot. they would be to gripped in fear.

There are no plotholes in the movie, just dumbassess who dont pay attention.

Noah Baker on 07-23-2012 08:38 PM

1. TDKR
2. Batman Begins
3. TDK
Now all these movies I would definitely give a 5/5 but my favorite batman villain of all time is the Scarecrow so that's the main reason why I like it better then TDK.

Kevin Nye on 07-23-2012 08:40 PM

Katie Holmes didn't return for DK not because Nolan "recast her". She just said no, it was around the time she was getting mixed up with Tom Cruise. And frankly, the recast is what makes Rachel's death in DK so emotionless and empty. Maggie Gyllenhall gave it her best, but she did not look or act like the same character from BB, and we had no attachment to her. While she's probably a better actress, she brought this snide arrogance to the role that Katie Holmes never did.

King Crunk on 07-23-2012 09:14 PM

Thought The Dark Knight Rises was very good, possibly even great. My only complaint is that I think Hardy was fantastic as Bane, but was not given very much screen time for the first or final act of the movie. I also agree with some criticisms that some parts of the movie went on too long, while others were not long enough. Still, I can forgive the small things when viewing the movie as a whole, in which case I thought it was a triumphant success. All the hate towards Anne Hathaway turned out to be for nothing, as she not only nailed the Selina Kyle role, she absolutely reveled in it. And the ending was superb! Nolan really succeeded in capturing who Batman is and what he represents as a symbol. Nolan has broken the curse of the part three for superhero flicks, and continues his hot streak as the most successful blockbuster filmmaker working today. I am eager to here what his next project will be.

Side note - How about those two Man of Steel teasers? I really was not wanting a gritty Superman, but my God did the trailers pique my interest!

The Holy Rainbow of Awesomness on 07-24-2012 04:39 AM

This trilogy is probably the best adaptation of Batman ever (the Animated series comes close). They are also the best comic book movies ever. Even Ann Hathaway as Catwoman surprised me (expecting her to be terrible, she was the opposite.

Sebastian Arroyo on 07-24-2012 06:57 AM

I think Darren Aronofsky would make a great director if batman where to follow up. You got the dark and psychological gameplay going on, great for character development, ultimately providing this realistic, cynical, modern gotham we all love. David Fincher could also work!

Andrew Williams on 07-24-2012 08:06 AM

A reboot at this point is inevitable; Warner Bros. will milk the Batman franchise for all it's worth because of the success Nolan brought to the mantle. In a way, it's both sad yet optimistic for the Batman franchise. Yes, we might never get a trilogy as good as Nolan's ever again but we might get a different, stylistic take on the Batman that could turn out to be just as brilliant. Who knows? We can only wait and see who the torch will be passed on to. In the mean time, I'm looking forward to see if Nolan can pull of something similar with the Superman franchise next year with "Man of Steel". I'm very hopeful for that film.