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Kenko-Tokina launches NDX variable neutral density filter

Monday, 1 August 2011  19:09 GMT < Previous  Next >

Kenko-Tokina has announced a variable neutral density (ND) filter that can be adjusted fro ND2.5 to ND1000. The Kenko NDX filter can darken the scene by anywhere from 1.3 to 10 EV. The filter allows the use of wide apertures while keeping the correct exposure within the shutter speed range of your camera, or of very long shutter times to emphasise motion. The company suggests its use for shooting video with shallow depth-of-field, for instance. Its variable nature allows the amount of filtration to be reduced for focusing, then increased to the desired amount, without having to remove the filter. The filters can vignette when used with lenses wider than 28mm equivalent and are available in 77mm and 82mm filter thread sizes.

Click here to find out more (Google Translated from Japanese)

Comments

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Tomek_C
By Tomek_C (Aug 4, 2011 at 21:26:35 GMT)

It is possible to improvise your own variable ND filter by stacking two polarizing filters. Keep the first one fixed and rotate the second to vary the density. Minimum density is when the axes of polarisation are aligned. Maximum when they are crossed at 90 degrees.

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anyurtan
By anyurtan (Aug 5, 2011 at 13:17:44 GMT)

yes, of course!

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glenneroo
By glenneroo (Aug 24, 2011 at 14:05:08 GMT)

thanks for that useless comment ;)

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Aug 4, 2011 at 08:47:43 GMT)

Happy with my Lee Big Stopper, which costs about a quarter of this Kenko.

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watduzhkstand4
By watduzhkstand4 (Aug 2, 2011 at 19:30:18 GMT)

wow $700+ for this? I might just have to go for the singh ray lol

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kenyee
By kenyee (Aug 2, 2011 at 18:45:45 GMT)

$700 is probably list price so figure half that for mail order prices I'd hope. Still nuts though. A lot of them (including the Fader ND on Amazon) even affect sharpness at 1080p video resolutions according to Vincent LaForet.

DPReview needs to do a roundup/review of this, the Tiffen, the Singh Ray and the Heliopan. Heck, I'd do it and write i up for you guys if you want, but it needs to be done :-)

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HCR21
By HCR21 (Aug 2, 2011 at 17:30:48 GMT)

Ridiculously expensive. I guess its made for the video crowd used to cough up large sums for simple accessories. The Tiffen VND 77mm is only $200-239.

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expoboy52
By expoboy52 (Aug 2, 2011 at 17:25:02 GMT)

I bet it will be pretty pricey.

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Prime_Lens
By Prime_Lens (Aug 2, 2011 at 13:59:46 GMT)

Variable ND filter tends to be much inferior in overall optic quality, but I am very curious about this one. Who knows, this one might proves to be the one that fits all bill.

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S Staley
By S Staley (Aug 2, 2011 at 13:28:36 GMT)

How much are they asking for filter sounds kind of pricey

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sdyue
By sdyue (Aug 2, 2011 at 11:43:08 GMT)

piqued... but very pricey (2011-Aug-02):
JPY55000 (77S = 77mm)
JPY65000 (82S = 82mm)
wow

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (Aug 2, 2011 at 10:05:03 GMT)

Looks great, I never liked to stack filters!

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Aug 2, 2011 at 09:06:45 GMT)

Spec. sound good.
I hope the price will be reasonable and quality without major drawbacks.

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zoom878
By zoom878 (Aug 2, 2011 at 08:07:34 GMT)

i buy hoya circular polarize ..i am not satisfied..

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Pepenillo
By Pepenillo (Aug 2, 2011 at 11:14:08 GMT)

Well it depends, the Hoya "HD" version are awesome, but those are not cheap.

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Gheghevic
By Gheghevic (Aug 2, 2011 at 07:23:12 GMT)

Great!

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Frenske
By Frenske (Aug 2, 2011 at 07:04:24 GMT)

I wish they still produced Cokin P155 so I can add it to other filters.

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dopravopat
By dopravopat (Aug 2, 2011 at 06:28:51 GMT)

Yeah, two polaritzers stacked on ech other, the front one being a linerar. It works fine, but the linear polarizer I had was a cheap one, with green color cast. If the price for this filter is more than the price of a linear and circular polarizer of equal quality and size, I wonder who will buy this.

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Victor Engel
By Victor Engel (Aug 2, 2011 at 17:01:58 GMT)

If the front one were linear, you would see an effect of the polarization on the photo. They must both be circular polarizers oriented in opposite directions:

1/4 wave filter, linear polarizer, adjustment space between layers, linear polarizer, 1/4 wave filter.

The first and last layers "randomize" the polarity so that you don't get a polarizing effect, such as cutting reflections, darkening a band in the sky, etc.

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D Gnatat
By D Gnatat (Aug 2, 2011 at 04:28:22 GMT)

long a waiting

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Tiago Degaspari
By Tiago Degaspari (Aug 2, 2011 at 01:34:05 GMT)

Fantastic filter.

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Swordfish
By Swordfish (Aug 1, 2011 at 23:33:23 GMT)

Rip-off. Just get the Kenko ND400 for less than $80 -- no color cast and no gray splotches across the image at ultra-wide angles.

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Ranger 9
By Ranger 9 (Aug 1, 2011 at 22:41:10 GMT)

The Tiffen has less range -- 2 to 8 stops, vs 1.3 to 10 stops for the Kenko unit. (I assume Kenko's 2.5 to 1000 spec is for "filter factors," rather than the log density units we old-timers are accustomed to seeing for ND filters.)

Still, considering the price difference, I'll probably spring for the Tiffen when more sizes appear.

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Octane
By Octane (Aug 1, 2011 at 22:03:15 GMT)

Funny, I just bought and used one of those yesterday. Very useful and helpful to get the exact exposure in different situations.

The one drawback I could see was due to the polarizer. The sky was getting really dark towards one corner of the image. Landscape photographers need to be careful.

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Steve Balcombe
By Steve Balcombe (Aug 2, 2011 at 09:44:26 GMT)

In theory there is a solution to the sky problem. If the front polariser is a reversed circular PL instead of a linear PL, the dark band doesn't occur because the quarter-wave plate on the back of the CPL (now facing forwards) 'depolarises' the incoming light.

Do any of the variable NDs on the market use this trick? I don't know, but it seems this one doesn't.

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Silvarum
By Silvarum (Aug 2, 2011 at 09:55:58 GMT)

Why would landscape photographers want wide aperture with slow shutter anyway?
I haven't seen any of them even with simple ND filter, many with gradient filters, though.

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Steve Balcombe
By Steve Balcombe (Aug 2, 2011 at 10:51:26 GMT)

To get the misty water effect of a very long exposure.

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Oldvic
By Oldvic (Aug 3, 2011 at 13:22:42 GMT)

Also, to blur the blades of wind turbines, regardless of the rotation speed.

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Silvarum
By Silvarum (Aug 13, 2011 at 07:55:27 GMT)

But they don't need wide aperture for that. I mean they used low ISO number and narrow aperture. Some of them even had film camera with 25 ISO film in it. And they always could use polarizer as ND filter.
I wish manufacturers would stop that highest ISO race (which is useless anyway) and would lower minimum ISO numbers.

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Donato M Rondinelli
By Donato M Rondinelli (Aug 1, 2011 at 21:35:51 GMT)

For video, these are a must have. Especially if you shoot outdoors on a partly cloudy day as these allow you adjust while you're recording.

I have two Sigh Rays. One accepts the Canon lens cap but does have vignette issues because it's thick. The other is thinner but you have to use their cheap lens cap that doesn't stay on.

While your lens hood is on, you have to be careful adjusting it on the fly while recording so you don't see your fingers. So I prefer the thicker because there is more to grab on to and less chance of accidentally touching the glass. I just avoid the wider end of the lens.
You definitely have to take off your UV because it adds thickness.

The new Tiffen variable ND is supposed to be really thin and may fix the vignette issue
http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=filters&itemnum=77VND
and it's only $200 at Adorama. Anyone have it?

The Ebay and other cheap ones are usually plastic.

-dMR

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Aug 1, 2011 at 21:08:45 GMT)

Hopefully these will be better quality than then Chinese ones on eBay. But when you cross polarizers, you usually get artifacts. Better to get a Hoya/Kenko ND400. These are available at BIC and Yodabashi (even Amazon.jp has them), in 77 and 82. Tough to find in the US, though.

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R BELTRAN
By R BELTRAN (Aug 1, 2011 at 21:06:33 GMT)

CHECK OUT THIS WEB SITE.
http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html
USING THIS ONE FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.

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chiane
By chiane (Aug 1, 2011 at 21:05:24 GMT)

It says the filters can vignette with lenses wider than 28mm. I would think a big use for this would be with UWA lenses for landscape and architecture shots, but I guess not.

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AV Janus
By AV Janus (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:22:13 GMT)

Price???
Does it come with free lifetime replacements!!??

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JakeJones
By JakeJones (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:09:42 GMT)

I've used something similar before. I've found that when including the sky (or other polarized light sources) that the two polarizers work against each other, and give a 'splotchy' exposure in different areas across the whole frame. I wonder if they've been able to resolve that issue.

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Ernest Beinrohr
By Ernest Beinrohr (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:49:31 GMT)

i have just made such from 2 CPs. about 10euros with shipping. 3min of "work". the result however is blueish ;-)

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jgardia
By jgardia (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:35:39 GMT)

Hi,
You should try with 2 linear polarizers (for compacts or EVILs), or 1 LP and 1 CP if you have a slr (LP - CP - Lens, in this order).
Cheers.

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steve_hoge
By steve_hoge (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:47:57 GMT)

I'd be amazed if they could get 10 stops out of a polarizer - some other trick?

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Philip Goh
By Philip Goh (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:24:55 GMT)

It's probably a combination of 2 polarizers. Such things already exist, see Singh Ray (http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html)

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futile32
By futile32 (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:44:15 GMT)

nice idea, but expensive if prices are true.. I would guess at $70 not $700

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LensLineup
By LensLineup (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:06:24 GMT)

yeah, must be a typo!

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Philip Goh
By Philip Goh (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:26:34 GMT)

While $700 is expensive, it's not going to be $70. Singh Ray charge about $400 for a 77mm version of their Vari ND filter, so I assume that these Kenko-Tokina filters will eventually be priced similarly.

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photonius
By photonius (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:43:33 GMT)

read the specs:
suggested retail for 77mm: 55,000 yen, currently 700$, 500 Euro, ugh...

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rockjano
By rockjano (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:43:20 GMT)

You can buy similar from E-bay. From $15-$25 including free delivery.

How that is possible?

http://stores.ebay.com/photoseller2007store/category2512940017-/_i.html?_fsub=2512940017&_sid=664503017&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

http://stores.ebay.com/digital-winway/Fader-ND-Filter-/_i.html?_fsub=3069754018&_sid=656036388&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

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role_of_72
By role_of_72 (Aug 2, 2011 at 19:57:38 GMT)

Price is one thing but quality is an other.. I have a ND filter from that 'Green L' brand from ebay and to tell the truth it is awful.

I don't have huge expectations but that filter ruins the sharpness and colors as well. It has a strong reddish effect on my images. We ended with a refund.

I don't know this version but it has twice as many glass elements than my ordinary ND filter so I'm afraid quality isn't that great. :)

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:33:00 GMT)

Probably just a couple of polarizer filters. Not much new new here, except for marketing such combination as a single product.

Prog.

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huyzer
By huyzer (Aug 1, 2011 at 19:29:25 GMT)

My goodness, that is a huge range. Nice!

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QuarterToDoom
By QuarterToDoom (Aug 1, 2011 at 20:38:50 GMT)

I like my Cameron Fader ND for $70.

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backayonder
By backayonder (Aug 6, 2011 at 20:08:59 GMT)

I've still got a Cokin in my bag that I haven't used yet. I keep meaning to go out with it and take some milky water shots.
$700 for this is ridiculous. I thought the SinghRay was expensive!
Kenko isn't even a good brand, or am I being harsh?

Cheers

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Mauragon
By Mauragon (Aug 17, 2011 at 08:12:56 GMT)

Maybe the price is in Japanese Yen hahahaha

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