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U.S. Supreme Court orders massive inmate release to relieve California's crowded prisons
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The war on drugs has dumped every free thinker in the country behind bars. Mostly non violent types. Victims of poor laws passed in the Reagan era.
Keep the violent ones and release the rest.
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I have an idea...
Lets elect the pope as president, have the judges who put these people in prison, patrol the prisons as guards, put the lawyers as cell mates or rats, retire the prison guards on full medical disability and have Obama create a new committee called 'no crime in prison'. Let's create a rehab social circle for inmates serving 20 years or more and let the inmates that are serving 50 years to life, be allowed to vote on the current issues of the day, like male circumcision, what movie stars should not be allowed in prison and what the president meant by 'change'!
The judges and lawyers put these people in prison so lets reverse the rolls to understand how and why the prisons are overcrowded.
What sense does this make. You live in prison, create a lifestyle that changes you forever, cannot adjust to life on the outside because all you know is prison, rehab is outdated, and since you can't face reality on the outside, you create more crime only to be released due to overcrowding and the crime increases on the outside as well as the inside of prison. What's wrong with this picture here. The revolving door policy.
The above picture shows a neat orderly dorm. It can not compare with the open space on the outside of the prison naturally or a crowded subway in Manhatten or the quarters for crew members aboard an atomic sub.
The above photo of future "Democratic Voters" speaks volumes. Thanks, L.A. Times, for giving the rest of us a heads up....
How many inmates can be deported through "secure communities"?
1931 movie "I was a prisoner on a chain gang" gives you an idea what needs to be done. Farm prison away from urban areas. Teach them farming skills, get them tired, let them learn to build gravel roads with sledgehammers. It will build up all the men so they can be paroled into construction and farm labor jobs.
It orders about 23% of the inmates released. So since 25% are illegal aliens, they should simply deport them. Then there will be enough room for the rest of the inmates.
I used to do theater in prisons all over the country. Medium and Max facilites including some in California. And what I thought about prisons before I went in to them was a whole lot different than what I thought after the experience.
You know what prisons do? Teach people to become better criminals. They also create such hate due to the conditions, without tempering it with REAL skills on how to handle life on the outside, that they've become a revolving door.
First, get rid of every freaking drug offender who is incarcerated except those convicted of selling huge amounts. Second, eliminate the three strikes law. It's so poorly written that people who have been busted for a minor offense on their 'third strike' are down for serious time. Third, get serious about programs that provide for life skills.
The goal of prisons should not only be keeping the public safe but doing what they can to make sure they're putting less harmful people back on the streets.
And to any of you who think that prison is a joke or a vacation, I encourage you to seek out a tour. You'll change your mind the second you hear the noise.
Tell the Federal Government and the Supreme Court that California's compliance is contingent on them taking all the illegal alien prisoners off our hands, either by incarcerating them in Federal prisons or by paying California to build and operate as long as necessary prisons for the illegal aliens in custody. Otherwise, tell the Supreme Court to stuff it. Tell them to order the Federal Government to pay for all the lousy miserable illegal aliens we have to pay for.
Unfortunate the "non-violent" criminals sure to be released following this ruling won't be housed next door to liberal Justices Sotamayor, Ginsberg, Kagan, Kennedy and the other Dimocrat kook.
We so don't need to let Obama appoint another one of these fruitcake, liberal Supreme Court Justices. Pray like you've never prayed America.
California spends an estimated $21.8 billion annually on illegal aliens—including $11 billion on education; $3 billion on prisons, police, and courts; and $11 billion on medical services.
If Jerry Brown TRULY wants to erase the deficit, he knows exactly what to do. But he won't.
Now is the time for change. Ban the Bar, lift the housing law, restore all rights, to give the new citizens a chance to live. Without it, recidivism will rise, and crimes will worsen because the person is seeking permanent housing and care. Re-read the Declaration of Independence (1776). its 2011 and the minority has become the majority. Laws need to change and NOW!
yeaaaahhhh I'm all for the tax extensions, but they are not going to be used to to fund the transferof prisoners to counties. I work for one, and it's already been made clear to us that we will be reimbursed for SOME prisoner costs, but not most new administrative expenses :/
"Citizens will pay a real price as crime victims, as thousands of convicted felons will be on the streets with minimal supervision," Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said in a statement. "Many of these 'early release' prisoners will commit crimes which would never have occurred had they remained in custody."
Yeah, those people who wrote bad checks - I mean I should run out and buy a gun right now...
Or those infamous person who knocked over a liquor store. Talk about hold your wallet closer.
Some of these people are in jail when we should have just taken them to the cleaners financially. Those, in part, are the people we are releasing and I'm fine with that. Some crimes just don't warrant (no pun intended) jail time and there is no case for assuming that they'll be repeat offenders.
People who should be in prison:
Murderers and Abetters (not people who were present but didn't actually commit the crime, which in California can get you sent up under "foreseeable consequence" depending on iffy circumstances. People v. Ly)
TRUE kidnappers - meaning they held someone for profit or sexual motive
Violent Sex Offenders/Rapists
Drug Offenders
Grand Theft Larceny/Bank Robbers
DUI/DWI
"high profile" offenders
He cited a former Texas prison director who toured California lockups and described the conditions as "appalling," "inhumane" and unlike any he had seen "in more than 35 years of prison work." does any one understand the damage that these people are doing to the state of Calif.there is a old saying beat a dog enough he will bite you.this must brake the unions,that what costs all the money take their pay out the cost to house a inmate is probability about 40$ a day
Just release non-violent marijuana possession inmates
Please dont put these criminals in our streets! Who cares about their compfort, they are CRIMINALS, they need to suffer back!
It's bad enough with millions of illegals aliens already!
Not one mention in the KTLA video that inmates had died needlessly due to abyssmal medical care. In fact, the piece opens with him saying it was about the toilet to inmate ratio. He doesn't mention until the end that 30,000+ would not all be released at one time. The video just incited fear by telling less than half of the story. Leave it on the opinion page or commentary news shows and just give us a straight report.
Here is a breakdown of inmates as of 2009. There has been many posts about the facilities being filled with drug users, but as you can see, this is not true. In fact, most of the 10,000 in custody are awaiting the parole process and are run through the system as fast as possible. Other stories of people in for "parking tickets" seem equally false. I think transferring thousands of prisoners to crowded county jails is a wish. I just hope the courts know the implication of their decision and time frame.
CS Possession 10,358
CS Possession For Sale 10,675
CS Sales 4,867
CS Manufacturing 501
CS Other 699
Hashish Possession 51
Marijuana Possess For Sale 922
Marijuana Sale 513
Marijuana Other 150
Homicide 28,855
Manslaughter 3,378
Vehicular Manslaughter 724
Robbery 21,390
Assault and Battery 25,130
Sex Offenses 15,655
Kidnapping 2,644
Burglary 13,729
Theft 18,948
Grand Theft 2,761
Vehicle Theft 4,920
Forgery/Fraud 2,591
Other Property 1,172
OTHER CRIMES (
13,743)Other crimes includes escape, weapons possosion, criminal DUI, arson, etc.
here is the solution: use the prisoners to build new prisons. send them weekly pay stubs with the wage set to zero , but then another pay stub stating what they could have made in various other jobs so they could see how much money they are losing by being in prison and how much money they could make if they stopped trying to take it from those who worked for it, or by using other people for money. also, most importantly allow preachers to teach them how to change their lives .
All you have to do is read the comments from the bleeding LA libertards to understand why California is heading down to its own self-destruction. And I guess its okay, if the criminals hasten that end.
We, Californians, had for long time had a mentality of 'lock 'em up and throw the key away.' I wished it was that simple until we recently begun to realize how much that mentality is costing us, taxpayers, dearly. Do you ever see why prison guard union is so powerful? Of course, dangerous violent ones need to remain in prison. However, as state had been preparing for awhile, we need to put more emphasis on local rehabilitation efforts by county probation officers. I am hoping for the governor to keep his promise not to let any of them go free without any supervision that may endanger local communities safeties by properly funding for those that are being released to supervision by local authorities.
(cont) How is California or the federal government going to protect the citizens of the United States, an old fashioned ideal, or effectively cut court costs or civil damages by releasing convicts; that is, if they are recidivist like sexual predators, murderers and serial killers? With 80 thousand convicts who are no longer incarcerated in California, there will certainly be more losses to life and property than there would be if they were locked up. The leaders of our country should not confer with the Supreme Court for the purpose of a machination which would release the convicts and diminish the quality of life in California. Our leadership should enforce the immigration laws in order to greatly reduce the number of inmates in California prisons.
The Supreme Court's idea decision the population of inmates must be reduced in order to protect the lives of inmates is a bad one. Regardless of the living space allotted for convicts, there will always be blood shed between the serious offenders or the bully and the less violent criminals. Obviously, the prisons are more populated in California because it is a sanctuary state thanks to Governor Brown and his cohorts. The federal government did practically nothing to prevent the illegal immigrants from entering the United States during the eight years of G W Bush' administration. A substantial number of California's convicts, about 80 percent during the 1980 decade, are Mexican national fugitives or first generation Mexican Americans, or anchor babies. There were already 46 thousand inmates released from California prisons recently. Add to that, 33 thousand. Many of those ex-cons who were released had immediately congregated at state parks with nowhere else on their mind to go.