24 Frames chat: The fate of 'The King's Speech,' and other prognostications on the fall
The season’s most important film festivals are behind us, as are the end-of-summer doldrums. That means the best of the fall and holiday movies are now set to arrive -- a smashup derby of highbrow dramas (and the occasional comedy) competing for not only awards attention but also box-office traction.
One of the better indications of how these films will perform in theaters is how they played at the Telluride and Toronto film festivals. Film reporters John Horn and Steven Zeitchik covered these two festivals and returned with a sense of what we can expect from the months ahead. Their conversation follows.
John Horn: One of the more important film-festival awards is Toronto’s People’s Choice audience award—the list of recent winners includes “Precious: Based on the Novel ‘Push’ by Sapphire,” “Slumdog Millionaire,” “Whale Rider” and “American Beauty.” Will that prize boost the Weinstein Co.’s “The King’s Speech”?
Steven Zeitchik: I was surprised by how many people whom I wouldn’t have expected to like "The King's Speech" came out of the Toronto screenings raving about the movie. But when I mentioned the film to people back home, some could barely suppress a yawn.
JH: It’s like “The Queen”—the more you try to describe it, the worse it sounds, When you say “The King’s Speech” is about a royal stuttering problem, it’s both accurate and totally wrong.
SZ: It's also the kind of movie a lot of film-goers feel that they’ve seen before -- a repressed monarch learns to get in touch with his feelings, the crown is redeemed, God save the Queen. But it transcends that genre too. The key will be getting audiences to see it. If you can get enough people to do that, the word of mouth will take care of the rest.
JH: Fox Searchlight’s "Black Swan," from director Darren Aronofsky, played well at both Telluride and Toronto. But is it the kind of film that tends to do better at festivals than in the real world?
SZ: Actually, I'm not sure that's true. To me, it feels a little like an art-house “Inception” -- there’s such intrigue around the premise (and, okay, the Natalie Portman-Mila Kunis lesbian love scene) that I think a lot of people will turn out, if only to see what all the fuss is about.
JH: This coming from the guy who said Focus Features’ “The Kids Are All Right” wasn’t going to gross $15 million.
SZ: I will never again underestimate the box-office potential of movies with lesbian themes.
JH: The hardest movie for me to read is Fox Searchlight’s "127 Hours." We know the ending—hiker cuts off his hand and is rescued. Will that also amputate its box-office reach? And with all the talk of people fainting at screenings, what might have worked for William Castle in the 1950s could actually be more of a liability than a sales hook.
SZ: There is a little bit of the Six Flags "Not for the faint of heart" tag on this one, which won't help. But once people realize the film isn't that graphic, I think they'll come see it. Star James Franco and director Danny Boyle can generate a lot of goodwill. Plus there's a happy ending. Sort of.
JH: It seemed like Ben Affleck (“The Town”) did better in Toronto than his brother Casey (the Joaquin Phoenix fauxumentary “I’m Still Here”).
SZ: There are rumors that, for his new movie, Ben will follow Casey around and film him having a breakdown after seeing the box-office numbers for “I'm Still Here.” Seriously, though, it’s always a risk to bring a big commercial movie like "The Town" to Toronto, which tends to be a little more rarefied. But the response was very favorable, and I think the media buzz coming out of the festival helped with its strong opening weekend. “I'm Still Here” played a modest premiere, and that was pretty much all I heard about it.