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Anton Volchenkov will not be re-signed. Will hit the market July 1.

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by Chemmy on Jun 21, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

wait

it’s from Garrioch?
Doesn’t that mean Volchenkov has already signed a new deal?

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, Kessel might score 2 goals a game against Ottawa now that there’s no one there to help out the goalies

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He already was scoring 2 goals a game.

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by Clawson on Jun 21, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against Ottawa

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by Clawson on Jun 21, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is excellent news, the sens just became even easier to play against

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Go ahead and write it, I guarantee we'll win the Cup.

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by article1 on Jun 21, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent news!

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what the reason for not re-signing him is. If he signs for anywhere around 4.5m this will be even more hilarious.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet he’ll go for more than that, which is probably the problem.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope it is, man that organization is the worst at retaining talent.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

I’d say the Predators are worse at retaining talent, only the actually plan for that eventuality and are very good at constantly re-building.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wish we had their scouting staff

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have enough defensemen.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That reputation is true to an extent but defensemen alone didn’t get us named the no. 1 prospect system in the NHL.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, I’d take any number of your prospects.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nashville assumes everyone will bolt as soon as they become UFAs because it’s Nshaville and no-one wants to play there. Even though that’s probably not true.

Ottawa assumes everyone will stay as soon as they become UFAs because it’s Ottawa and everyone wants to play there. Even though that’s definitely not true.

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by article1 on Jun 21, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

it’s because Nashville is on a very small budget and can’t afford to give these players raises.
I don’t understand the Nashville bashing.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with Nashville, but they are the NHL equivalent of the Milford Academy.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the Milford Academy?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an Arrested Development reference. It’s a school whose students are taught to be neither seen nor heard.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not getting the comparison though. Care to explain?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just that, they exist, but I forget that they exist all the time.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you obviously missed out on following Dan Ellis on twitter this year then….and also skipped the Olympics.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m aware of their players and everything and think they are a great franchise. I just forget about them for long stretches of time.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odd, I feel like I hear about them more than other western conference teams. Maybe it’s because my BAP got drafted onto the preds, though.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, it was more of an off-hand joke than anything else.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it’s on arrested development

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh right, that one.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Recess in Nashville

(Someone talked)

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by TheOtherAndrew on Jun 21, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hey.

Karina’s right – the Predators don’t retain players like Hamhuis or Paul Kariya because of the internal budget which is well below the salary cap. While Hamhuis (as an example) is a great player, we’ll get good production from Franson or Bouillon for at least half the price. Poile’s good at making a lot out of very little.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Polie could do amazing things if he ran a team that could spend to the cap. It’s amazing how many players he’s forced to deal away because of budgetary restrictions below the Cap.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I do wonder if the monetary restrictions help him out… if he could spend to the cap, how many of these free agents would he overpay instead of incorporating roster turn-over into his plan?

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

See – Glen Sather.

Used to be a great GM with the Oilers (yes yes pre cap and great talent) but I remember when he went to the Rangers there was a lot of talk “Now we get to see what he can do with an unlimited budget.”

Well, we saw and we weren’t impressed

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but Poile’s never been gift-wrapped the greatest player in the history of hockey

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Sather was only a coach when Gretzky was traded. He didn’t start being a GM until 1990. He didn’t do too bad with what he had up until around 2000 when he went to run the Rangers.

Don’t know the exact figures, but one year their payroll was something like 80 million.. geez

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 21, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait so he was a GM AFTER the Oilers glory years?

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup – he actually coached during the glory years.

My memory may be hazy, but I’m pretty sure I remember him being pretty good with the limited budget that the dick Pocklington gave him.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 21, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though that supposes Jason Arnott and Dan Hamhuis were worth retaining. Hamhuis may come back to hurt Nashville in short run, but with added minutes given to Nashville’s immense wealth on the back-line, I don’t think it hurts the Preds in the long run.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is correct. We’ll notice a downturn in the defense for some of next year, I think, but once Franson grows up and Blum/Ellis acclimate we’ll forget all about Hamhuis.

Arnott was an interesting case. He was a square peg in a round hole (1C, when he’s a perfect 2C), and an overpaid one.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

now you guys have room to sign a nice UFA

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

By my count, we’ve got around $9M to spend up to the internal budget limit, but you’ll have to allow for the Hornqvist and Franson extensions. After those, I’d say that leaves us with $5M to chase a playmaking center.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Thomas Plekanec?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marleau? If they can stretch that budget.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

some reason I was thinking Frolov

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a winger.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I know, but as soon as Arnott was traded, for some reason that was the first player i thought of for the Preds, I have no idea why

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We switched Fleischmann to center and went on a 14 game winning streak!!!1

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too much money.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve considered it. He’s a little small (duh), but can pass the puck and kill penalties. We need both. What do you think he makes, $4m?

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

$5 mil seems like the going rate, unless he really wants to play somewhere, in which case $4 mil will be in play.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the longer the term the lower the dollars.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Connoly from Buffalo?

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too fragile.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say Jason Arnott is overrated, but that would mean I considered him to be a great player, which I don’t think he is any event. Arnott’s age and inconsistency was too much for the Preds to handle and I loved that trade by the Preds.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I don’t know what the Devils are doing, they must not think they can retain Kovy

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they decided not to re-sign Paul Martin. I’m confused as to what the Devils are going to do.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they make a pitch at Kaberle, but I dont see them having too much burke wants that they would give up

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kabs’ expiring deal helps them because it lets them re-sign Parise (whereas locking up the superior Martin might hinder that) but I agree that I can’t see what we would want from them.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

a combination of Clarkson, Josefson, tenneby and some picks would get it done, but i doubt lou wants to lose either prospect

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find both Josefson and Tenneby to be underwhelming prospects, to be honest. The Devils have done pretty poorly recently in their drafts without looking into too deeply.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they arn’t the bluest of chips but say Clarkson, Tenneby and a 2nd would be a pretty good return for Kabby

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it’s because i’m not a big fan of Tenneby or even Clarkson that much. I guess Clarkson depends on if Kulie re-signs or not. Clarkson looks much better if Kulie isn’t coming back, that’s for sure.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed, I’m still hopeing for the Kassian+1st+connoly/stafford deal

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really can’t keep Kovalchuk and expect to re-sign Parise.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had just assumed that Kovy was going to sign elsewhere.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was by far the most frustrating player on the team. Incredibly gifted physically. He just takes loooooooooong naps on the ice.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, we’re kind of stagnant. Its an annoying cycle – Hamhuis and Timonen develop into good players, deals expire, we trade them. So on and so forth. I’m deathly afraid this will happen with Weber, Suter, and Hornqvist.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weber and Sutter wont go anywhere unless of course someone offers a disgusting over payment

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edmonton?

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats a concern with Weber. I’m just worried that Poile won’t offer what they’re actually worth. Thats fine with Hamhuis, but Weber and Suter are all-world and I wouldn’t mind them paid as such.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your team also draws the worst playoff match ups imaginable.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, haven’t they drawn like >50% of the West Champs in the first round? That’s just horrible!

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

I would guess Suter might be a sacrifice in the future, but Weber will never be a casualty unless he asks to be moved out. I see the same line of thinking with Colin Wilson if he pans out, too.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if radulov wasn’t such a punk bitch, he alone would give the Preds one hell of a boost

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider our power play if it consisted of Radulov/Wilson/Hornqvist/Weber/Franson.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

terrifying, it’s even good defensively so shorties wouldn’t be a worry

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. I almost cry just thinking about it. :P

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Pretty much. I’m still sure that the Preds best course of action is to trade Radulov as soon as he comes back and showcases his talent again.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d play him for a month or so in easy minuites so he lights it the fuck up then trade him

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Leafs can take him if Nashville really insists.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

His rights are almost worthless, and now that Arnott’s gone (the guy who had such a problem with him) we can let him play out the year left on his deal with us. Chesnokov told me he’d be back this coming summer.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I meant. Trading him now is worthless, if only because the Preds lose any kind of value for him without letting other teams see him play in the NHL again.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not know that Arnott had a problem with Radulov.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He absolutely couldn’t stand him. A large reason Rads left, I think. The captain was dead set against him. Sure, Radulov could’ve done some things differently but Arnott was an asshole.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

that must’ve really pissed off Poile.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Radulov nearly (read: not at all) killed him a couple of seasons ago in the playoffs after Arnott scored a big goal.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats not entirely the reason, but certainly part of it. Arnott loathed his johnny-come-lately attitude and lack of defensive effort to the point of treating him like shit.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This only strengthens my theory that Nashville is a communist team.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this would explain why I am so fond of them.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Barry Trotz looks like a member of the politburo.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

necks are for capitalist pigs, comrade

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nashville is a communist hockey team?

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

It explains why they have a self-imposed cap, and why Radulov got shit on for not backchecking.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We really, really need to keep them both, but the financials probably won’t work out.

Agreed on Wilson – Poile considers him the 1C of the future (basically Joe Thornton with balls), but I hope to god he didn’t trade Arnott thinking Wilson was ready.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But with Blum/Franson/Leboeuf/Roussel/Ellis all in the pipeline, if the choice came between Suter and Weber, I would hope Poile picks Weber 10 times out of 10.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. Suter is more replaceable. Jon Blum projects to be better, anyway, so I hope Poile listens if it comes to that.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re a small-market team that doesn’t realize they’re in a small market.

If they realized this fact and acted accordingly, they could be the Predators North and have a never-ending supply of cheap young talent. Instead they have to keep up with their “rivals” the Leafs, and so they piss away valuable picks to acquire rental players to max out at the second round.

Everyone shits on the Leafs for failing to adapt after the lockout and becoming a terrible team, and it’s definitely warranted. The Leafs wasted 3 seasons trying to compete like they did pre-lockout, and have now spent 2 seasons trying to do the damage. But they’re using their money more effectively and are slowly moving on the right course.

It has been 5 years since the lockout and Ottawa STILL operates like it’s 2003-04.

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, they did make it to the finals in ’07.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

With hilarious results.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you hate the ducks. Then it was just unfortunate.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say what? The Sens losing in the finals with the game winning goal being scored by Chris Phillips is the definition of hilarious.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you hate the ducks. Then it was just unfortunate.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if I hated the ducks, I’d be mad they won the cup. It’s Monday so sorry if I’m not getting the joke.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s where I’m at, there’s no joke.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jun 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, well then yes.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Ottawa hatred blinded me to any other possible emotions.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by sleza on Jun 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since then, they’ve won 2 playoff games total.

They traded Eaves and Corvo for 2 months of Stillman and Commodore
They traded Vermetter for LOLclaire
They traded a 1st round pick for Campoli and 2 months of Mike Comrie
They traded 2nd round picks for Sutton and Cullen

Their prospect pool is one of the weakest in the league, their captain and best player is almost done, they traded their best scorer last summer for pennies, their top center might be traded this summer, and their top defenceman might leave as a free agent

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, when you put it that way.
How does Murray still have a job.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melnyk is one of the 6 people in the world that believe that tripe about Murray deserving credit for the Ducks winning the Cup

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The others are his family?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even them

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by JohnnyG on Jun 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the same reason glen sather still has a job.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s efficient at wins vs dollars spent…Copper and Blue ftw?

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction: Leafs have spent 2 season undoing the damage.

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess Andy Sutton is set to become the franchise dman for the Sens lololololol

by Hanzi on Jun 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well they’ve got the best goal tending tandem in the league so they’ll be fine.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nert nert nert!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This is good news in terms of making it easier to play Ottawa, but how will this impact the Kablerle trade market. Will teams be less willing to give up a lot for Kaberle before July 1st if they know Volchenkov is available, or will the fact that they are completely different types of d-men mean this is irrelevant?

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I think the fact that they’re completely different types of d-men makes it irrelevant.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sign Volchenkov, trade Komisarek.

by Jacques Strap on Jun 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, because the leafs really need to spend extra on a D man who is starting to break down

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

booo

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by SkinnyFish on Jun 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incorrect.

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda would agree

But that’s never happening, so I’ll pass.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

down goes brown is my favourite

Will no doubt leave his feet in the process. RT @SunGarrioch: Anton Volchenkov will hit the market July 1.

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha ha, win.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Potential Ottawa Senators starting line-up, October, 2010

LW: Milan Michalek (34 pts)
C: Mike Fisher (53 pts)
RW: Daniel Alfredsson (71 pts)
LD: Chris Phillips
RD: Erik Karlsson
G: Brian Elliot

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by birky on Jun 21, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

thats a horrible lineup……I don’t see them finishing ahead of us next season unless Elliot gets lucky for a whole season again.

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of greater concern if I were a Sens fan is that assuming they resign Cullen and Sutton as expected, five of their top 9 forwards (Bozo, Fisher, Kovalev, Cullen and Neil) and 3 of their top 5 D (Kuba, Sutton and Phillips) are 30+. If there’s anything worse than being mediocre, it’s being mediocre and aging. As Leafs fans from 2005-2008 can attest.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Awful.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

as much as i wish this to be true. you have to imagine ottawa will get someone half decent in free agency

by sodonis on Jun 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do fear they’ll get Zbenyk Michalek

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

or perhaps paul mara

by sodonis on Jun 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavel Kubina.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

pavel is smarter than that…..right?

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dolla dolla bill, y'all

It’s all about straight cash, homey.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, I thought that about Hal Gill, and looked how that turned out

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god

please no
NO PAVEL NO

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still praying that San Jose gets Michalek to replace Blake and Ottawa scrambles and offers Sutton a bomb of a contract

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm… if Washington deems Volchenkov too pricey I wonder if they try to go the Michalek route… how much do you think Z.Michalek would command on the open market?

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by Matt_Roberts on Jun 21, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not as much as he would get if he played somewhere else.

I’ve heard 2.5-3m thrown around, but that’s just hearsay.

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he could get anywhere upwards of 4.5 depending on the amount of suitors and how much volchenkov gets

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kavel Pubina

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

WANT!!!!1

He’s Danny Markov’s long lost brother.

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by eyebleaf on Jun 21, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

NO…..no more D-men. We’ve already spent way too much on D.

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

With not enough quality for the dough….although a lot of that is Finger and Phaneuf’s regression. Here’s hoping we somehow get rid of Finger (even if it’s just the minors) and that Phaneuf can regain his form (even if he doesn’t get nominated for a Norris)

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve already assumed Finger’s in the minors.

And I believe in Dion Phaneuf. HE’S GOING TO BE HUGE. BRIGHT LIGHTS AND SHIT.

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by eyebleaf on Jun 21, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d for Dion Love!

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we’re gonna have to start calling him Neon Dion

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boooooo

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

him and Colt 45 will be awesome

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

DION FTW!!!!

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have to disagree with the reports the caps are not intrested in signing volchenkov. untill he signs somewhere else i think washington is the most likely landing spot

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by Lancers25 on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Can they afford another $5 mil player though? Or will letting Theodore walk allow them to spend some money on UFAs?

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much space

Backstrom took up Theodore’s space, raises to Fleischmann Fehr Schultz and Semin take up Nylander’s space. Not enough space to add that pricey of a guy. Probably around $3 million max, with getting rid of say Flash in lieu of cheaper talent like Perreault or Andrew Gordon

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the need to sign guys like Fleischmann, Fehr, Schultz and Semin, but if I was a Caps fan and the team didn’t pick up a big shut-down defenseman this year, I’d be pissed.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hope is between Carlson-Alzner-Schultz-Poti someone gives solid D, so I wouldn’t mind too much (as it is they lost because the secondary scoring and PP disappeared this year). I just want a top-4 D to play on the 3rd pairing.

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense, I obviously do not know a lot about your prospect pool. Just thinking that they need someone who can log big minutes and shut-down the other teams top guys. Volchenkov would fit that bill.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a big fan of his durability, and there’ll probably be a bidding war which will drive his price him, and he’ll get years which teams closer to the cap can’t afford. This FA class is so weak :’(

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you could always take a risk on Willie Mitchell, see if he can recover from his concussion.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He a player JP wants the Caps to go after. I haven’t seen enough of Mitchell to make a judgement myself.

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty darned good shut-down defenseman
but the concussion makes him high-risk

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could also make him take a pay cut, and maybe even a 1-year contract. Gets a shot at the Cup, gives the Caps a shut-down guy and if he doesn’t work out, the Caps can just wash their hands and try again.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

:(

If he keeps playing, I hope it’s still in Vancouver. From what I’ve heard he wants to keep playing there too. Although I really think he should consider hanging up the skates…it’s taken him a long time to recover from that hit, and who knows what might happen the next time.

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by Semi_Colon on Jun 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

All true.

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the games they LOST, the Caps gave up 2, 3, 2 and 2 goals in regulation, excluding an EN goal. Not sure lack of D did them in. More like lack of luck.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but moving forward in the playoffs, do you think that their D-corps would have been able to handle a team like Philly or Chicago?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 21, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but I don’t know if those teams could have handled the Caps forwards, especially with the way they were playing early in the SCF. Live by the offense, die by the offense :(

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by red army line on Jun 22, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one could have handled Chicago if they played well and didn’t suffer bad luck.

by The '67 Sound on Jun 22, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Quick Recap

Jamie Lundmark gets more comments than Dion Phaneuf, and a FanShot about Volchenkov turns into a discussion about the Predators.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

My bad, kinda – stumbled across the Nashville talk and had to jump in.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody’s bad, just kind of interesting. I think the worst decision my office has made was allowing me access to a computer even though my work requires no computer work.

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD POINT

People need to stay on topic >:(

And yes, it is. Damn site…

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not end world hunger and clean up the oil spill while you are at it PPP?

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by Ubiquitous on Jun 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I focus on ending PPP hunger first, world hunger later.

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

to…pic?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about defencemen! That’s kind of on topic, a little.

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by bkblades on Jun 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Judge's Ruling...

Yeah, it works.

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by PPP on Jun 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

go banana!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as nobody’s doing work we are all on topic ;)

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by CoolJ90 on Jun 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dion Phaneuf commenting was interrupted by sexual harassment training.

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by clrkaitken on Jun 21, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

its chemmy’s fault for not being able to grasp how you just can’t piss in jugs and make people drink it anymore

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPP stemmed from the Leafs

who stemmed from hockey

which stemmed from ice

which stemmed from water

which came from hydrogen and oxygen

which came from stars.

Blame the Stars!

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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want it to be a week from now right now

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

just say NO

to overpaying free agents

by birky on Jun 21, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

more so to get the fucking draft over with and kaberle situation finalized

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea…..let’s trade Kabs, get Horton, Sign Kovulchuk and wait for the season to begin

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by LeafFan1989 on Jun 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the spirit!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy has a great theory on how the Leafs should sign Kovalchuk in the soon to be released PPP #8 (as well as an interesting contest idea for the public to win a Marlies lunch box).

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by mf37 on Jun 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, I’m gonna have to skip that podcast now.
NO GETTING MY KOVALCHUK HOPES UP

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

but you wont skip it

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll listen to it after Kovalchuk has signed wherever he’s going to sign.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

you will listen to it as soon as you have a chance
will power you has not!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 21, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still haven’t listened to the last two.

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by Karina on Jun 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

but all your friends are doing it. Don’t you want to be coooool?

by A Lindros Jaw on Jun 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  


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