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Brian Moylan

2009-03-05 02:16:40

Dear Rob Atkins :)

I don't know how many standing ovations you counted? you are of the Murdoch school I must presume, http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonsobama100/Post:f877ce0b-458f-4553-84cc-66a6d84a63fd you agree with his reporter's analysis.
I thought it was a good performance abroad supporting an ally, you may disagree though :)
http://blogs.labour.org.uk/braindamage?Blog=570c38f7-17ec-7fa4-ed74-9971ec8ad539&Period;=February2009
Goodnight :)

Rob Atkins

2009-03-04 21:56:22

They're certainly a courteous lot in America aren't they ? 17 standing ovations, 18 according to the BBC (and 26 according to the always balanced Robert Peston-Brown).

I'm impressed especially because he must have told them all these problems started in America. What he didn't ? Why on earth not ? That's what he's always saying over here ...

And it was a brainwave of Brown to use that particular speech to say a heartfelt sorry for his own part in the failure of the banking system ? What he didn't do that either ?

So, no change at all then. The Labour Party is going down at the next election and won't be visible for a generation. Still, could be worse eh ? They could still be in power and have to sort out this almighty mess they've made of the economy....

Always fun to contribute to these blogs !

karl burge

2009-03-04 21:55:17

I feel inmy heart the yanks are going to go down a protectionist route whether we like it or not or whether it makes sense or not...in much the same way they went down the 'dont give a damn' route on Kyoto. Good speach from GB though but the most important parts were heard in silence and the parts which were empty soundbytes (helping the poor) were cheered and aplauded...doesn't look promising to me.

Alina Palimaru

2009-03-04 21:02:50

Vic, again, good points.

However, as you have seen, national economies are inextricably linked with the global infrastructure. When the boom is in force, most countries will benefit. When the bust comes rolling, we are all tied to the disease. And the response must therefore be collective. In the face of a crisis like this one, whatever each country does, individually, will have a miniscule impact on itself and the others. Collective action "for and with" each other is the way to go.

Stipulations like "Buy American" for instance (see scandal last month) would be catastrophic for the UK and other countries. So GB has done a lot domestically, but by galvanizing the Americans to abandon protectionism, will do even more for Britain.

Vic

2009-03-04 20:36:29

There's no doubt that we must maintain international protocol - no doubt. But does it need to be GB?

But things have got to move faster. We can slap backs, but things are desperate. What the British public wants is reassurance here, not in the US. We need a leader here, making the most of technology and the common touch to reach every single person who is worried about how they are going to pay their bills nest month.

AC

2009-03-04 20:16:56

Vic,when I talk about the three stages, I am referring purely to what I think GB was setting out to achieve today, in relation to the international agenda he is pursuing. As has been widely recognised in the States and elsewhere, he was one of the first major leaders out there with an explanation and with action to deal with the immediate impact of the crisis. But now it really is time to get the global agenda sorted. I was not saying, and do not accept, that he has done nothing up to now

paul robinson

2009-03-04 20:02:28

you could tell slight nerves in voice at beginning,but the pm sounded sincere and surely at this time everybody must give support especially when our leader is abroad.

Alina Palimaru

2009-03-04 19:59:54

To Vic: You make a good point, but I think GB has been getting things done as well.

Moreover, this type of talking is necessary for high-level international protocols..

Gabrielle L-P

2009-03-04 19:51:19

Well said and a well crafted blog AC

Vic

2009-03-04 19:44:44

Sorry, Alastair, but the time for talk is long over. If we're only just past the 'first stage' then someone needs a rocket up their backside. People are losing their jobs, their homes and their self-esteem.

We need these bright, innovative people to Get Things Done. Every day is a day nearer the next mortgage payment, which we may not be able to make.

Alina Palimaru

2009-03-04 19:38:27

The Ted Kennedy moment was well-received in the galleries... Read More… He is very popular here. U.S. as "indispensible, irrepressible nation" went well too. "Fear" vs. "faith" in future, good.

Robust economic argument, putting it into perspective for Americans that protectionism is more detrimental than anything else! "New frontier is that there is no frontier" -- excellent!

Regarding "global new deal" -- so far reactions have been mixed, because it confuses people: does he mean international body monitoring global economy, or just a global concerted effort by nations…

The Rwandan child example was heart-wrenching but brilliant!! Hammered the point, some here welled up!

But I must note…GB is no TB… I am not sure there was a "hand of history on our shoulder" moment.

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GB - good speech, well delivered

2009-03-04 19:31:05

I watched Gordon's speech to Congress in the company of BBC journalists as I was commenting on it for The News Channel. Half way through, I could tell they were listening more intently than is often the case. Then when I heard Jon Sopel say 'this is better than his usual...' (as near as a politician gets to praise from a journalist) I knew it was going well.

The only communications that works in modern politics is authenticity, and the reason it worked as a speech was because it was authentic Gordon Brown. He could have made it to any audience, from a Labour Party fundraiser or poverty-fighting charity to a gathering of financial institutions or the next G20 summit. I hope people try to see the whole thing, not just the clips and the surrounding blather on the news bulletins.

I thought it was interesting to see an American audience react so positively to the line that whilst we support the free market, we do not support values-free markets, and that the values of the good society need to be applied to the good economy too. It was rich in values, the values of his politics, Labour politics and progressive politics in general. Hence the focus, albeit with a backdrop dominated by the economic crisis, on the environment and Africa. I found his description of the boy killed in Rwanda, whose final words were that the United Nations would help, genuinely moving.

Such a pitch is clearly easier with a Democrat rather than a Republican President, but it seemed to go down fine on both sides of the aisle. I also liked the Biblical touches and the references to his father's influence upon 'son of the Manse' Brown.

There was a strong message in there for the Americans that they have to work 'for and with the world,' and when he started to go through some of the problem areas which need to be addressed for the future success of the global economy, you began to see the outline of the agenda for the forthcoming G20 Summit.

I said here a few days ago that some speeches matter more than most. This one mattered, for short, medium and long-term reasons. The short-term judgement will be decided by the immediate reaction of public and media; the medium term rests upon what comes out of that G20 process; the long-term, most important of all, on the impact of those decisions.

So it's a three stage process aimed at leading the world from recession to recovery, showing the values and the policy decisions required to do so. The first stage went well.

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Publish date: 2009-07-01 14:47:40

When the power of black eyes fades

Publish date: 2009-06-30 09:24:59

Farewell to Henry Hodge

Publish date: 2009-06-29 20:41:12

Honouring the power of sport to do good

Publish date: 2009-06-29 14:49:42

Andy Murray is a winner. Is that why some Brits don't like him?

Publish date: 2009-06-28 09:19:20

New Parliament will look very different. The younger the better

Publish date: 2009-06-27 17:34:26

Two nice surprises, sad end to day

Publish date: 2009-06-26 09:16:33

Apology from the Spectator on Iraq boosts Henry Hodge fund

Publish date: 2009-06-25 19:57:26

Thanks to Mr Harper on mental health, rebuttal of Mr Hague on Iraq

Publish date: 2009-06-24 23:47:54

Glad to find Eric Cantona in a quiet cinema ...

Publish date: 2009-06-24 00:46:23

By Dave's friends shall we know him?

Publish date: 2009-06-23 11:30:20

The Speaker has to balance tradition and change - but defend Parliament

Publish date: 2009-06-22 11:58:44

Less a blog than an apology for not having done one

Publish date: 2009-06-21 20:07:43

The day Lions skipper Paul O'Connell took my trousers down

Publish date: 2009-06-20 11:48:28

On the Iraq inquiry, Independent article wrong

Publish date: 2009-06-19 20:28:24

Thank you to three readers, now please get involved

Publish date: 2009-06-19 09:13:35

A tribute to a lovely man

Publish date: 2009-06-18 17:19:40

Bad times in Belfast, great day for Burnley, odd statement from Ed Balls

Publish date: 2009-06-18 10:04:47

A plea for five-figure cyber-donations

Publish date: 2009-06-17 07:40:42

On two inquiries

Publish date: 2009-06-16 08:57:39

From India to Iran to Labour wit

Publish date: 2009-06-15 10:13:17

Memories of Princess Diana

Publish date: 2009-06-14 09:54:55

A House Divided?

Publish date: 2009-06-13 02:53:47

A humbling NHS experience, a media row and a good GB speech

Publish date: 2009-06-12 10:48:46

Psychiatrists heading for relegation in 'disease prestige' league table

Publish date: 2009-06-11 10:25:35

The shrinks await

Publish date: 2009-06-10 09:44:16

As Obama fights for healthcare, let's celebrate the record here

Publish date: 2009-06-09 12:52:55

Anger at BNP seats must be turned into activism

Publish date: 2009-06-08 14:11:10

Can today be as frenzied as Friday?

Publish date: 2009-06-07 10:31:04

Take heart from a win in Lambeth

Publish date: 2009-06-06 18:46:40

JP is right there was no proper campaign but Tories still weak

Publish date: 2009-06-05 13:47:20

Do we care more about the NHS or moats?

Publish date: 2009-06-04 00:21:23

Guardian of social justice or attention-seeker?

Publish date: 2009-06-03 10:19:33

Who says Britain can't deliver the best?

Publish date: 2009-06-02 08:08:38

Mainstream has a duty to vote against BNP

Publish date: 2009-06-01 11:03:29

Let Diversity inspire a vote against the hate-filled BNP

Publish date: 2009-05-31 12:24:20

White House whack at UK media well-timed but sure to be ignored

Publish date: 2009-05-30 13:41:00

Elvis has a plan to make MPs King again

Publish date: 2009-05-29 12:09:44

At least there's a campaign on in Italy

Publish date: 2009-05-28 09:04:32

A blow to gay rights and a boost for Cameron's short-termism

Publish date: 2009-05-27 11:27:41

It's my blog and I'll be a big kid if I want to

Publish date: 2009-05-26 23:25:58

Highs feel better after so many lows

Publish date: 2009-05-26 10:13:12

Only one present counts

Publish date: 2009-05-25 11:05:46

Contrast Cheney and Bush

Publish date: 2009-05-24 12:11:45

Sex (or at least the female form) obsessed Britain

Publish date: 2009-05-23 20:49:57

Sport at both ends of the financial spectrum

Publish date: 2009-05-23 09:57:23

Stronger together - whether Scotland or expenses

Publish date: 2009-05-22 10:22:36

Back to Number 10, familiar faces, familiar arguments

Publish date: 2009-05-21 10:14:34

Speaking up for Parliament

Publish date: 2009-05-20 11:44:17

Peace in the Middle East - yes he can

Publish date: 2009-05-19 09:37:35

Breaking news - one frenzy at a time

Publish date: 2009-05-18 10:34:30

Getting a good look at Vince Cable

Publish date: 2009-05-17 09:36:55

How do you solve a problem like Silvio?

Publish date: 2009-05-16 09:32:21

It was the internet wot won it

Publish date: 2009-05-15 10:04:57

There now follows ... a good whack at Cameron

Publish date: 2009-05-14 17:21:28

They got their kit off - so you get your cash out

Publish date: 2009-05-14 07:41:11

Expenses row must not obscure Tory intentions on minimum wage

Publish date: 2009-05-13 16:12:08

We love you Burnley, we do ... what a night

Publish date: 2009-05-13 02:37:17

A tweet cannot express the wonders of TGV

Publish date: 2009-05-12 08:48:31

It's Mind week - Get it off your Chest with me and Stephen Fry

Publish date: 2009-05-11 06:29:15

Hate the Mail, love Obama

Publish date: 2009-05-10 10:04:00

Burnley 1 Reading 0 - a biased report

Publish date: 2009-05-09 21:26:32

MPs expenses - time for party leaders to meet again

Publish date: 2009-05-09 09:50:19

Should happiness replace prosperity as national goal?

Publish date: 2009-05-08 08:43:23

Musings from a sleepless night

Publish date: 2009-05-07 07:33:49

Darren Fletcher - an injustice that has to be righted

Publish date: 2009-05-06 09:52:29

Maggie's legacy not as great as she thinks

Publish date: 2009-05-05 08:33:02

Here's hoping Cardiff is metaphor for Cameron

Publish date: 2009-05-04 09:38:30

More Mr Benn and Co please

Publish date: 2009-05-03 10:03:00

Going Fourth with JP

Publish date: 2009-05-02 18:25:41

Journalism - print first, think later

Publish date: 2009-05-02 09:10:01

In praise of two poets

Publish date: 2009-05-01 10:26:36

JP hits the road again

Publish date: 2009-04-29 18:52:11

My night with Eddie Izzard

Publish date: 2009-04-29 10:53:25

Explaining the 50p top tax rate

Publish date: 2009-04-28 09:22:53

George Best and Martin McGuinness

Publish date: 2009-04-27 09:02:35

Cameron confused over indepdendence and impartiality

Publish date: 2009-04-26 12:20:56

Guide ro Marathon running part 2

Publish date: 2009-04-25 11:01:34

Good signals on coal and the Olympics

Publish date: 2009-04-24 10:45:28

Tips for the London Marathon

Publish date: 2009-04-23 17:29:27

Missed the Budget, saw why it mattered

Publish date: 2009-04-22 23:09:31

Football good, politics bad. Allegedly

Publish date: 2009-04-22 00:00:24

The Great Wall gets greater

Publish date: 2009-04-21 09:55:22

Two sides to police story

Publish date: 2009-04-20 11:39:54

Budgets, Balls, billionaires and Susan Boyle

Publish date: 2009-04-19 12:31:45

Do muscles have memories?

Publish date: 2009-04-18 09:44:44

Bring back standing at football

Publish date: 2009-04-17 14:50:22

When Facebook friends fall out

Publish date: 2009-04-16 12:29:16

Guardian sightings and the email and bath plug agenda

Publish date: 2009-04-15 11:32:16

The spin is all in the prism

Publish date: 2009-04-14 09:22:41

A setback, not a crisis

Publish date: 2009-04-13 12:55:19

The real lessons from Damian McBride

Publish date: 2009-04-12 10:49:47

Will English always be the dominant language?

Publish date: 2009-04-11 10:02:02

On the pipes and what makes a Scot

Publish date: 2009-04-10 11:06:20

John Prescott lazy? NO WAY

Publish date: 2009-04-09 09:11:31

David Frost is seventy

Publish date: 2009-04-08 08:48:38

The Speaker, BBC2, tonight and tomorrow 8pm

Publish date: 2009-04-07 14:25:31

Obama, colds and being woken by Korean missiles

Publish date: 2009-04-06 11:59:24

When a call matters more than protocol

Publish date: 2009-04-05 11:33:42

Green Cities Champions League

Publish date: 2009-04-04 10:19:53

Could Cameron have delivered the G20 deal?

Publish date: 2009-04-03 10:11:59

Of Benn and Bono

Publish date: 2009-04-02 08:21:16

Memo to Sarko - allez vite a Londres

Publish date: 2009-04-01 08:46:17

Happy April Fool's Day

Publish date: 2009-04-01 01:44:05

Eurostar, Le Monde and a thought for the G20 sherpas

Publish date: 2009-03-31 09:17:22

Why Kevin Rudd made an impact

Publish date: 2009-03-30 10:24:41

Pre-G20 hype matters less than post-G20 process

Publish date: 2009-03-29 13:17:28

The Damned United

Publish date: 2009-03-28 10:37:04

A hobby horse, a plug and a bit of sport

Publish date: 2009-03-27 10:22:23

Cloughie - he had a lot to be big-headed about

Publish date: 2009-03-26 09:38:36

A sad sight of the old fearing the young

Publish date: 2009-03-25 17:03:07

Post-modern, post-structural, or bullshit?

Publish date: 2009-03-25 08:18:02

Learning the right lessons from Obama

Publish date: 2009-03-24 08:53:15

Lazy Dave needs to keep an eye on lazy Ken

Publish date: 2009-03-23 11:16:14

Farewell favourite restaurant, hello hometown

Publish date: 2009-03-22 08:18:09

Dave, Danny and have the Tories really changed?

Publish date: 2009-03-21 08:55:13

Life beyond Dover ...

Publish date: 2009-03-20 10:11:21

My friends in The New Statesman - Fergie, Fiona, Tony, Sarah, Kevin, 'Dacre,' and a great GB idea for the G20

Publish date: 2009-03-18 10:38:22

Iraq, Iran, GB, Obama and diplomatic chess

Publish date: 2009-03-17 10:07:13

The Age of Stupid

Publish date: 2009-03-16 08:27:13

Is all change good?

Publish date: 2009-03-15 10:00:06

The pressure of being a post-modern sex god

Publish date: 2009-03-14 10:00:55

Cameron still hasn't sealed the deal with business

Publish date: 2009-03-13 09:21:49

Stand up for social workers

Publish date: 2009-03-12 08:31:17

Surely Malcolm Tucker could have told Armando Ianucci ... You can't spin a spinner

Publish date: 2009-03-11 10:58:25

Start of a new approach from Labour?

Publish date: 2009-03-10 09:54:12

A peace process still strong

Publish date: 2009-03-09 08:21:05

Day of destiny for the real footballer of the year

Publish date: 2009-03-08 09:21:06

Private advice to Peggy Mitchell - the leaked note in full

Publish date: 2009-03-07 08:17:21

Boris, the Tories and the tummy-tickling poodle press

Publish date: 2009-03-06 09:49:37

A day in the life of the self-obsessed TV reporter

Publish date: 2009-03-05 07:55:47

Notes on the environment, a role in EastEnders

Publish date: 2009-03-04 10:58:56

She may be my 'wife' but it is time to rebut!

Publish date: 2009-03-03 10:52:59

Some speeches matter more than others

Publish date: 2009-03-02 12:04:45

Mental health and the Carling Cup Final

Publish date: 2009-03-01 09:08:17

Inside the chocolate factory

Publish date: 2009-02-28 10:23:59

GB on the G20, JP on Jeremy Kyle

Publish date: 2009-02-27 09:14:36

Charity and the credit crunch, please give generously!

Publish date: 2009-02-26 08:55:12

Why oh why are the Tories not home and dry?

Publish date: 2009-02-24 09:44:59

Me, Dermot and ten top songs

Publish date: 2009-02-23 10:02:19

Names round-up

Publish date: 2009-02-22 08:43:39

What's in a name?

Publish date: 2009-02-21 09:58:14

Editing the New Statesman

Publish date: 2009-02-20 11:42:36

Salute Peter M’s proper use of the F word

Publish date: 2009-02-19 09:58:58

Labour's communications challenge for the NHS

Publish date: 2009-02-18 10:34:39

In praise of Keighley

Publish date: 2009-02-17 14:33:57

A night at the Emirates

Publish date: 2009-02-17 00:06:51

When marriage is tested

Publish date: 2009-02-16 13:36:35

Spare me the myths and the whining

Publish date: 2009-02-15 13:29:50

Dave Cameron - is that all there is?

Publish date: 2009-02-14 11:11:55

Boris Johnson: F is for ...

Publish date: 2009-02-13 07:55:10

The Cameron vacuum

Publish date: 2009-02-12 14:48:33

Lincoln, Obama, Blair and the 24 hour media culture

Publish date: 2009-02-11 10:28:47

Eighteen interviews later ...

Publish date: 2009-02-10 19:24:45

Time to talk about Time to Change on Newsnight

Publish date: 2009-02-09 22:47:49

So that’s what they mean by online community?

Publish date: 2009-02-08 12:12:51

First blog

Publish date: 2009-02-05 15:23:57