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Tuesday May 13, 2008

Category: Catholicism

"Is liberal Catholicism dead?"

"Is liberal Catholicism dead?" asks David van Biema in Time magazine. It's a pretty good essay, actually. And the answer, it seems, is yes, pretty much. Excerpt:

But the familiar progressives-versus-Vatican paradigm seems almost certain to be undone by a looming demographic tsunami. Almost everyone agrees that the "millennial generation," born in 1980 or later, while sharing liberal views on many issues, has no desire to mount the barricades. Notes [liberal Jesuit Father Tom] Reese, "Younger Catholics don't argue with the bishops; they simply do what they want or shop for another church." And Hispanic Catholics, who may be the U.S. majority by 2020, don't see this as their battle. "I'm sure they're happy that the celebration of the Eucharist is in the vernacular," says Tilley, "but they don't have significant issues connected to Vatican II."

And so, unless Benedict contradicts in Rome what he said in New York, the Church may have reached a tipping point. This is not to say that the (overhyped) young Catholic Right will swing into lay dominance. Nor will liberal single-issue groups simply evaporate. But if they cohere again, it will be around different defining issues.

This is actually food for a more interesting discussion than the usual left-right, orthodox-liberal shoutfests. Diogenes at Catholic World Report makes the critical point that even if the liberal Catholic project is moribund, the liberal establishment can drag out the expiration by controlling the institutions (chanceries, rectories, departments of theology). But I think Fr. Reese makes a pretty devastating point by saying that the young don't even see the point in arguing with the bishops. The implication is that younger Catholics don't consider the matter of authority worth arguing about, because as a practical matter, they don't recognize it.

The old progressives-vs.-conservatives battle of the post-conciliar soixante-huitards is ceasing to matter, not because the orthodox have won the day -- would that it were so! -- but because they marched through the institutions and created a new generation that neither knows the substance of its faith, nor considers that important. In all sincerity, I don't really understand the complaint of the Catholic left: true, they don't have women priests, but otherwise, Moralistic Therapeutic Deism has largely won the field. Again, from my point of view that's a tragedy, but there it is. The outward form still exists, but the inner life?

This is going to take at least a couple of generations to sort out, but I would suggest the example of Europe as indicative of where US Catholicism might be heading. Those Catholics who have held on to the faith across generations are the traditionalists and otherwise orthodox who have not accomodated themselves to the culture. Van Biema, I think, makes a mistake in calling liberal Catholicism "dead" because its passions aren't shared by the younger generation. This reminds me of the mistake a lot of pepole make about Barack Obama, thinking of him as a post-Boomer figure capable of putting the obsessions of the 1960s behind us. He is, but only superficially: he has absorbed the core beliefs of the Sixties generation, and expresses them without agonizing over them.

What think ye?

Filed Under: dead, Diogenes, liberal Catholicism, Time, van Biema

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"Check the current Catechism on this one, which acknowledges the potential salvation of people outside the Catholic Church."

Susan, my friend, you are misinterpreting the Catechism's meaning of the Church. The Syllabus of Errors stands as true today as the day it was promulgated. The teaching of the Church never changes.

Susan of 6:27, either you or I need a new name.

The Syllabus of Errors stands as true today as the day it was promulgated.

Cleveland, so... you think that it is error to propose that

The Church ought to be separated from the State, and the State from the Church.

And here I thought you were an American. Please excuse me!

You favor a theocracy, I assume, in which Roman Catholic hierarchs assume civil authority? (Which may God forbid, given the quality of our current hierarchs! Keep your children indoors! Rod, you Orthodox are in immediate danger!!)

So, your only dispute with our Muslim nutjob buddies would be which theocracy should assume power.

God spare us all from the righteous.

Per 6:40 PM Susan: "Cleveland, so... you think that it is error to propose that
The Church ought to be separated from the State, and the State from the Church.
And here I thought you were an American. Please excuse me!"

Susan, it is not possible or desirable to separate Church and State because both are comprised of the same people, all children of God. You want us to be two-faced like some well known "Cathoilc" politicos?

Re the "When a man wears a condom ... " and the "methods of contraception which place a physical barrier between the husband and wife render them both mere objects" nonsense ...

When couples choose to use condoms, it shows that they have thought about the ramifications of unwanted children. They have prevented an abortion, they have decided not to bring a child into the world that they perhaps cannot afford.

Diametrically the opposite of have "rendered them both mere objects", it shows that they have considered their very humanity and made a wise decision that ought to be no concern of a busybody, controlling religion.

This "childless culture" notion is as idiotic as the equally false myth about a "culture of death".

Get a grip, people. Or a clue.

I think its acurate to say that you either do what you want and ignore the bishops, or you shop for another church. Its mostly because the church refuses to change. Or even acknowledge that the current pope contradicts the previous pope. Fortunatly he hasn't contradicted Pope John Paul II's encyclicals yet, only speaches.

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Rod Dreher is an editorial columnist for the Dallas Morning News, and author of "Crunchy Cons" (Crown Forum), a nonfiction book about conservatives, most of them religious, whose faith and political convictions sometimes put them at odds with mainstream conservatives. The views expressed in this blog are his own.

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